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logic340 said: Updated List Confirmed Town: Oyasumi_Rosie - Vigilante CorruptedPurity - Vanilla Grapefruit21 - Vanilla amberwillow - Docor Claimed: PentaFlare - Vanilla DenjaX - Vanilla Logic340 - Vanilla Shinichi-kun - Vanilla grrr - Vanilla RE1031 - Vanilla Unclaimed Lam-B followind Crossbell If the scum team are the three unclaimed I'm pissed frfr Well if that is true, then we really have been screwed over because that would mean no cop or at least the cop is hiding among the vanillas. |
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RE1031 said: well you do think grrr is the cop right? Ijs....anyway even if it is between grrr and the 3 unclaimed we're still kind of fucked. It's pretty certain that scum is among the VT claims. Lam-B been afk so who could guess. follow we'll see what he comes with but I'd bet vanilla, hopefully he's the cop because if it's Lam-B that would suck for us.logic340 said: Updated List Confirmed Town: Oyasumi_Rosie - Vigilante CorruptedPurity - Vanilla Grapefruit21 - Vanilla amberwillow - Docor Claimed: PentaFlare - Vanilla DenjaX - Vanilla Logic340 - Vanilla Shinichi-kun - Vanilla grrr - Vanilla RE1031 - Vanilla Unclaimed Lam-B followind Crossbell If the scum team are the three unclaimed I'm pissed frfr Well if that is true, then we really have been screwed over because that would mean no cop or at least the cop is hiding among the vanillas. |
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logic340 said: @RE1031 If you and I are town on the Rosie train who is the scum between grrr and Crossbell? Crossbell by a mile. grrr didn't even need to vote for Rosie and she would have still been lynched. |
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RE1031 said: Well, idk if he is or isn't but that is where I am looking as well. grrr could be based on VC from my perspective but if you, grrr, and I are town. Then I ask you to look at the vote counts with that in mind and tell me what you come up with. I am going to look now.logic340 said: @RE1031 If you and I are town on the Rosie train who is the scum between grrr and Crossbell? Crossbell by a mile. grrr didn't even need to vote for Rosie and she would have still been lynched. |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: What do you mean "what cross has done tonight"? He hasn't posted since just before the phase change yesterday.Their vote for rosie is what has caught my attention most but I'm looking into more of what Cross has done tonight. I'll likely summarize tomorrow once I've had time to let it digest. Tonight, I will be looking into more of what Cross has done. |
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Crossbell said: Her unwillingness to lynch me feels like she /knows/ I'm town, and I don't understand her scumreads. Why Logic/Grapefruit/CP? Those three are all in my townie pile. Hmmmmmmm? Well they would be if you were scum and you'd know who the townies are >:3 |
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PentaFlare said: Ok, cool. Didn't want to misunderstand what you mean there.logic340 said: What do you mean "what cross has done tonight"? He hasn't posted since just before the phase change yesterday. Tonight, I will be looking into more of what Cross has done. |
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logic340 said: RE1031 said: Well, idk if he is or isn't but that is where I am looking as well. grrr could be based on VC from my perspective but if you, grrr, and I are town. Then I ask you to look at the vote counts with that in mind and tell me what you come up with. I am going to look now.Crossbell by a mile. grrr didn't even need to vote for Rosie and she would have still been lynched. Sounds fun, I'll do an ISO sort of thing but on Rosie's votes. May take some time. |
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Crossbell said: I'm starting to think I should have made this game #3. Was this your way of planting the seed so if I zeroed in on you, you could just tunnel you all the time as defense?Vote logic for tunneling me for two games straight. |
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RE1031 said: I did something similar overnight while talking with shinichi. Let me link it for you hold on a sec.logic340 said: Well, idk if he is or isn't but that is where I am looking as well. grrr could be based on VC from my perspective but if you, grrr, and I are town. Then I ask you to look at the vote counts with that in mind and tell me what you come up with. I am going to look now. Sounds fun, I'll do an ISO sort of thing but on Rosie's votes. May take some time. |
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| @RE1031 Definitely do your own but would sure love your thoughts on this. nothing original Edit |
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RE1031 said: logic340 said: RE - Grapefruit and willow (both confirmed town) both voted here early d1. I think this might be worth looking into. Nope nope nope nope nope nope vote: logic340 Sorry but that was early day 1 when reads are inaccurate af. They changed their minds later on, and rightfully so. You've been asking us a lot what our thoughts are on you being mafia especially given Grapefruit's lynch. Maybe it's time you came up with some original ideas why you wouldn't be mafia given your circumstances. Thing about Crossbell being a suspect is his vote on logic for yesterday's lynch would have been very, very risky. It's either or, or both are townies. So, I suggest that in addition to defending yourself, you offer insight on why Crossbell would possibly be mafia. Or even DenjaX. Inaccurate but he was right, this should honestly be neutral not a scum tell if anything at all. Its T on T i dont think evven with a convincing case would i vote logic. Crossbell i would vote over anyone tho denja is an option too because his theory and plan has done nothing but confirm my upicion of him. |
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logic340 said: @RE1031 The reason I am not the mafia given the is because I would have essentially sacrificed myself for one mislynch. What was Grapefruit doing so well that I would need to Kamikaze and sacrifice myself in order to ensure that mislynch went through? If I am the mafia do you feel my team and I were so short sighted they let me sink myself pushing a mislynch on Grapefruit? Which puts our wincon in danger as we lose a mafia member and then links can start to be made? let me ask you this: Why would I be mafia given the circumstances? Hmm ya i rather u not make it out likes its impossible nothing is impossible, actually because denja is in the game this situation is quite possible if u were both scum together. Denja beiing good at controlling the game with his wild theories and you havent the ability to make almost annyone look at you as anything but town. |
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🐭 Vote Count 3.1 🐭 Logic340 (2) RE1031, grrr Crossbell (1) Logic340 Not Voting Shinichi-Kun, Crossbell, Lam-B, followind, PentaFlare, DenjaX 🐭 Vote History 🐭 Mod notes: :3 🕒 Countdown to Night 3 🕒 |
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| So let me rephrase my 1st post if denja does flip scum now i will look into you logic but first crossbell. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Fair enough anything is possible but sadly this isn't the case here.logic340 said: @RE1031 The reason I am not the mafia given the is because I would have essentially sacrificed myself for one mislynch. What was Grapefruit doing so well that I would need to Kamikaze and sacrifice myself in order to ensure that mislynch went through? If I am the mafia do you feel my team and I were so short sighted they let me sink myself pushing a mislynch on Grapefruit? Which puts our wincon in danger as we lose a mafia member and then links can start to be made? let me ask you this: Why would I be mafia given the circumstances? Hmm ya i rather u not make it out likes its impossible nothing is impossible, actually because denja is in the game this situation is quite possible if u were both scum together. Denja beiing good at controlling the game with his wild theories and you havent the ability to make almost annyone look at you as anything but town. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: If Denja flips scum I am salty as fuck because it means I was right about Claire all along.So let me rephrase my 1st post if denja does flip scum now i will look into you logic but first crossbell. |
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grrr said: RE after logic I will get you. I find it very suspicous that you didn't vote on logic while I was trying to lynch him, but right when i gave up on logic and started chasing the non-voters, you switched to him. And now you lynch him instantly. The way I see it you use him to clean your name. But of course logic comes first, then it is you. After you: Crossbell, Lamb and Penta were the other non voters from yesterday. I considered penta town, but after his non voting yesterday I will look at him again. I truly believe that logic + 2 non voters are the mafia. Town shouldn't have reasons to not vote. Sorry, what? I remember voting for logic yesterday. |
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RE1031 said: logic340 said: Why such a negative connotation? Maybe I look back and I feel your town I'm not understanding this attack from you. I wasn't slandering you just said it was something to look at. So, I was thinking that was a place to start but this interaction will hopefully help to provide some insight. If you were thinking that looking back might hint me as town, then why mention that two confirmed townies at some point voted for me? I still don't get your reasoning. I don't mind you trying to figure me out, I do mind the reasoning behind it though. ive done this before too and ive caught scum based on it, logic was in that game i think so im sure he might be looking more into it. Past votes can have a huge effect on future phases once alignments start showing. |
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PentaFlare said: Earlier in the day after you unvoted Claire he made mention of all the people who were not voters at the time and you were on of them I will go find the post for you real quick.grrr said: RE after logic I will get you. I find it very suspicous that you didn't vote on logic while I was trying to lynch him, but right when i gave up on logic and started chasing the non-voters, you switched to him. And now you lynch him instantly. The way I see it you use him to clean your name. But of course logic comes first, then it is you. After you: Crossbell, Lamb and Penta were the other non voters from yesterday. I considered penta town, but after his non voting yesterday I will look at him again. I truly believe that logic + 2 non voters are the mafia. Town shouldn't have reasons to not vote. Sorry, what? I remember voting for logic yesterday. |
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PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: Hmm okay. And on an off note, I guess we're never going to be discussing night actions. Cop should only claim if they have a guilty or two or more innocents on players who are still alive. I don't think we will have much else for PRs with results in this game. Ironic coming from a person that claimed because of an innocent check because he thought it would change a situation just to flip mafia lol atleast i think it was you. |
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grrr said: Also Re, have you claimed. I couldn't see it. I will reread but if you haven't claimed yet you go right in my second most suspect person after logic. @penta - can you tell me what is the algorithm that you are running? What do the points mean ? I'll explain it when the game is over because right now I want to limit my long posts to being about players because I only have so much time each day to play. Basically, it assumes that scum players will spread themselves out across the vote count and spots on trains accordingly. Points are assigned based on which trains were most likely to harbor scum then split up among the people on that train. |
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grrr said: Okay first, about followind, ignore that. I just said it to confuse mafia. Second anyone who post today without having his claim in his first post I will consider mafia. It is very possible that today is lylo. I am hollow kitty - vanilla town. don't forget to vote logic today. We still need to find 2 more scum though. just no |
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grrr said: RE after logic I will get you. I find it very suspicous that you didn't vote on logic while I was trying to lynch him, but right when i gave up on logic and started chasing the non-voters, you switched to him. And now you lynch him instantly. The way I see it you use him to clean your name. But of course logic comes first, then it is you. After you: Crossbell, Lamb and Penta were the other non voters from yesterday. I considered penta town, but after his non voting yesterday I will look at him again. I truly believe that logic + 2 non voters are the mafia. Town shouldn't have reasons to not vote. Ill agree this is weird from RE. At this point its almost certain mafia would vote because they want people to get lynched not stay alive. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Cop should only claim if they have a guilty or two or more innocents on players who are still alive. I don't think we will have much else for PRs with results in this game. Ironic coming from a person that claimed because of an innocent check because he thought it would change a situation just to flip mafia lol atleast i think it was you. Did I do that? I don't remember doing so, but I totally wouldn't be surprised if I did. That sounds like me. :P |
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grrr said: Well it is a black cat. And more than that I have watched like 60% of trigun and I dont remember this cat anywere. Though I can say the same about the CP's cat. I dont remember this cat anywhere in blue exorcist. Did we watch a different blue exorcist? There was literally an episode devoted to that cat |
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logic340 said: Updated List Confirmed Town: Oyasumi_Rosie - Vigilante CorruptedPurity - Vanilla Grapefruit21 - Vanilla amberwillow - Docor Claimed: PentaFlare - Vanilla DenjaX - Vanilla Logic340 - Vanilla Shinichi-kun - Vanilla grrr - Vanilla RE1031 - Vanilla Unclaimed Lam-B followind Crossbell If the scum team are the three unclaimed I'm pissed frfr We should stop this unless a cop is hiding in the vanilla town we are giving mafia targets to choose from that could be the cop. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Fair enough i do understand your point. I'd just keep up with this in the scum club :PWe should stop this unless a cop is hiding in the vanilla town we are giving mafia targets to choose from that could be the cop. |
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| #319 - I place my vote on Oyasumi_Rosie. #332 - amberwillow expresses some dissatisfaction with Rosie’s lack of activity. Also, with posts #334 and #335, she continues dissatisfaction. A bit late now, but if we had highlighted this particular interaction with Rosie, then her final vote on Rosie would have been less suspicious. #343 - logic340 states that Rosie could be getting his vote due to the fluff posts. #406 - Lam-B doesn’t think Rosie’s fluff post is indicator of scum. #495 - logic calls out Rosie to stop with the fluffing and start with the bluffing muffing stuffing oh wtf nothing good here. Basically Rosie’s been gone a while. #498 - OT: Poor Grape.. Quotes are a cruel thing. #537 - Grape states that his top 3 scum reads are CP, Rosie, and RE. #624 - logic once again calls out Rosie. #626 - I reinforce my vote on Oyasumi_Rosie. #640 - Oh, poor Rosie. My kokoro </3 #643 - Some mentioning of Rosie by logic, not sure if significant. #644 - Well, if you’re gonna be that unhelpful.. #647 - logic asks Rosie if she has thoughts on Grapefruit and Claire, since Rosie caught Claire in twins. Except Rosie was dead at the time so it was actually me, Shinichi-kun, and Zymf :3 #651 - Rosie says that her vote is on Grapefruit every game [RVS]. Why didn’t I listen #653 - Rosie explains thoughts on Claire and Grape. They seem to be neutral reads. #656 - Rosie expands thoughts on Claire and Grape, and includes that she does not read grrr as scum and doubts he’ll be lynched today. #673 - amberwillow says she feels strange about how Rosie behaves. #698 - One of Rosie’s last posts. #699 - Logic responds to Rosie, seems insignificant. #700 - amberwillow responds to logic’s #643, some pondering of Rosie’s potential scumminess. #701 - One of Rosie’s last posts. #706 - Rosie states her 3/3 won’t and will lynches. #708 - Grapefruit tags Rosie, who has not seriously voted yet, and asks her and amberwillow to vote. #710 - amberwillow states that she has too little info on Rosie. #716 - logic asks why Rosie trusts the three she won’t lynch (Crossbell, herself, and Sollux). #727 - Crossbell lists Rosie and Claire as scum. #730 - Crossbell asks why Rosie won’t lynch him and Sollux, says neither of them haven’t posted/contributed much. #733 - Crossbell says he’s willing to lynch CP (but not too much), more willing to lynch Rosie or Claire, and willing to lynch grrr (but prefer him killed by vigilante). #738 - Grapefruit votes Rosie. Bases reasoning on Crossbell pointing out that her top 3 town are strange. #741 - Crossbell votes Rosie. No reasoning. #744 - Crossbell reinforces idea that Rosie’s town reads are suspicious and hint her scumminess. #746 - logic votes Rosie. Believes she either scum or having off game. Guess it was off game. #747 - amberwillow votes Rosie. Follows Crossbell’s lead, though suggests that as far as her top 3 town reads go, Rosie may just trust Crossbell’s judgment. #749 - Crossbell asks Rosie to claim. #750 - grrr says question is rosie or claire #751 - I am surprised people are following my vote. #752 - amberwillow asks if I don’t like my reasons for voting Rosie. #753 - Crossbell asks Rosie to claim again. #754, #755 - amberwillow reinforces Crossbell asking Rosie to claim; even if it’s not a power role. #756 - grrr votes Rosie. Last vote on Rosie. Simultaneously he asks if we should Claire, smh. #757 - I express uncertainty in voting for Rosie. #758 - grrr says we can get Claire. .-. #760 - amberwillow asks grrr why Claire is better than Rosie. Read the rest on your own, it’s basically one right after the other. *yawn* #780 - Oyasumi_Rosie is lynched, and she flips scum. LOL in your dreams. So Rosie had 6 votes on her when the game ended, and grrr had 3. grrr didn't need to vote for her at all but he did. Actually amberwillow didn't need to either. |
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Nope, Chi is precious and I cannot hand him over to scum :3 Half kidding. @logic340 I think during N1 CorruptedPurity suggested that Grapefruit was actually the one who started the train on Rosie. Knowing he's town, next in line is Crossbell. Also sorry bro, didn't mean to hurt your feelings xD I know you work plenty hard. Just meant in regards to defending yourself as you were a high candidate for scum. And as they say, the best defense is a good offense. vote: Crossbell It's really been long enough. Switching back to my mind set of yesterday but going after you instead of DenjaX. |
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| @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell @Lam-B @followind @PentaFlare @DenjaX You haven't placed a vote this phase. Let's make this an uncomfortable environment for the mafia plus we owe it Kit and Gruffin. Town - Don't call it a comeback, let's do this for our fallen comrades Mafia - We're almost there, let's finish strong |
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| Really have lost a lot of the motivation to finish this game through given we're so behind already, but I can't be selfish so I have a duty to everyone else playing this game to do so. Kit said: Grapefruit21 (5) followind, Logic340, Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, amberwillow Logic340 (4) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, Crossbell, RE1031 RE1031 (1) Grrr Not Voting Lam-B Vote followind Most likely scum on the Grapefruit wagon by a long shot; his vote on Grapefruit was extremely band-wagonney and reeked of fly-on-the-wall scum. Still don't really think Logic is scum given his posts and stance yesterday (tying himself so closely to Grapefruit flipping town seems like a losing strategy for scum!Logic here; I'd bet he try to do it with a scumbuddy in order to get credit off the flip). I'm at follow/maybe Shinichi/someone off wagon? Like grrr? Either way my vote will be on followind until either he gets lynched or I die. |
| If you guys want to lynch me; I understand that it's completely justified - this game is just a massive off-game for me in terms of reads because people aren't willing to clear themselves, and we don't have the vig to clear up people such as grrr. Add to this having lots of RL obligations (I'm typing this up at 1 AM in the morning) and I'm pretty much willing to chalk this game up as a lost cause. Just going to try and put my two cents of work into making myself not be the lynch so that I do my due diligence this game. |
grrr said: Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not. grrr said: RE after logic I will get you. I find it very suspicous that you didn't vote on logic while I was trying to lynch him, but right when i gave up on logic and started chasing the non-voters, you switched to him. And now you lynch him instantly. The way I see it you use him to clean your name. But of course logic comes first, then it is you. After you: Crossbell, Lamb and Penta were the other non voters from yesterday. I considered penta town, but after his non voting yesterday I will look at him again. I truly believe that logic + 2 non voters are the mafia. Town shouldn't have reasons to not vote. ?????????????????? |
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| If I die and don't end up getting back to the thread tomorrow, here are my reads: PentaFlare - Remains my strongest town read. I don't think he ever puts forth the effort to devise an votal analysis algorithm and writes it all IRL if he's scum - it's the type of thing that will never enter his mind. He's also pretty cagey which is characteristic of his town game. Never lynch. DenjaX - Mild town read, though it's a bit angleshooty. I don't think Claire ever falseclaims Tracker, retracts it, then replaces out, as scum, like this. Claire isn't the type of player who goes on massive fishing expeditions and sacrifices herself and I highly doubt she replaces out as scum. Denja claiming that the wagons were town/town is a good look for him because he could have easily just picked up his mislynches by saying that one of logic or Grape were scum if he is scum and if logic is town here. Logic - Once again, decent town read, though I acknowledge the possibility that he is forcing down mislynch after mislynch like the last game he played. Maybe he locks himself into scumreading Grapefruit D2 and tries to talk his way out of it, but in my experience, scum are less inclined to start major fights like this. Just that most of the stances he's took this game (giving me the benefit of the doubt, then slowly scumreading me as I continued to provide less content because Busy and Not Motivated) make a lot of sense and are not agenda related. 10 bucks this is the read I'm wrong with in endgame though. RE1031 - Had a couple of townie posts around Day 2 that I pointed out, and I don't think that she townreads Grape so hard if she is indeed scum. That's an easy mislynch scum!RE can push and I don't think scum!RE seals away the mislynch there unless the team is exactly (RE/grrr/???) which seems unlikely given wagon analysis? So yeah. Penta/Denja/Logic/RE. Do not lynch. Shinichi/Lamby/grrr/followind I believe where the remaining scum are at. Shinichi is doing the thing like he did in Magical Girl Crossover where he looks like he's scumhunting, so I give town points to him, then he ends up being scum? Sollux wasn't all that active and I respect Shinichi trying to pull out the slot, but I haven't really seen too much from him. Shinichi - Can you give me your thoughts on the other people in the PoE pool? Lamby, grrr, and followind? Lamby will likely be replaced; I will analyze his replacement. grrr is completely anti-town and should have been vigged. Honestly, now that I think about it - in the worlds where Logic is town (which is a world that I believe in) I think grr has to be scum here? He basically tunneled Logic all throughout Day 2 and now Day 3 and didn't really do anything to stop the Grapefruit lynch. His logic push reads as extremely agenda related where it feels like he's trying to score the mislynch but I have no idea how grrr plays so ???. followind feels like lurky scum here, and that's why my vote is on him. In a number of games I've been able to townread followind pretty easily for showing some town mindset in his posts but that's entirely absent here. He isn't scumhunting, he's just bandwagonning, and we need to actually lynch the scum as opposed to the fiesta Yesterday. Pull heads out of floors and let's lynch the actual scum here, folks. Hopefully I'll have time to expound upon Things tomorrow but this is roughly where I'm at. |
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Crossbell said: grrr is completely anti-town and should have been vigged. Honestly, now that I think about it - in the worlds where Logic is town (which is a world that I believe in) I think grr has to be scum here? He basically tunneled Logic all throughout Day 2 and now Day 3 and didn't really do anything to stop the Grapefruit lynch. His logic push reads as extremely agenda related where it feels like he's trying to score the mislynch but I have no idea how grrr plays so ???. I cannot reconcile these two posts. If grrr is doing something to confuse the mafia that means he is town. Why then is he among your scum reads and PoE? While do I feel followind scum I cannot put it past you to bus in this situation especially if town is starting to close in. You have town read me pretty much the whole game can you explain the below quote to me please? Crossbell said: unvote vote logic my vote is on nowhere land willing to bet that grapefruit is town over logic Were you never willing to see us town/town at the time? Why choose me as scum over grapefruit instead of pushing people on why they are scum reading your town read? Was there just not enough time and you needed to be part of the Vote? I'm not understanding this vote on me from you when you have town read me since D1? |
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followind said: I think there was plenty of reason to scum read you at that point. The fact that you would rather worry about what Grapefruit thinks of you instead of weigh in on Penta/Claire is concerning to me. I looked over the remainder of D2 and the quotes below are all I could find on you weighing in on the situation? Basically this post reads to me as "I am scum but you cannot prove it because I haven't been active enough."Grapefruit21 said: @logic340 at this point I would lynch Penta. But it's utterly stupid and pointless to figure out now. Sure you might get a slip but you might also post so much that it alienates the less invested (which compared to you is everyone) and makes the game harder to solve. And again I know you know all of this. I get that you want to solve the game and crack it wide open so read D1 for people other than these two. Go back to the Rosie wagon and analyze the wagon and peoples on it behavior. And on the off chance we don't hear from everyone then we lynch away from the dichotomy and in the lurk pile and solve it the next day. My current choice would be followind. Why me? Can you give reasons? True I might be careless and left out some details but is there anything that you suspect me of scum? Were these two posts a slip by you? Do you know this is t/t and your commenting on the frustration? Why not talk about the players involved? You could have said something about me/Claire/Penta/Grapefruit but didn't you made 6 posts that avoided the major situation at the time and added nothing new. |
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Crossbell said: This phase is 48 hours to my knowledge we still have 33 hours, I just checked. If I die and don't end up getting back to the thread tomorrow, here are my reads: Crossbell said: IDK about this? I did things that I would do as town (minus my vote counts) when I was scum in an attempt to look like my town self. I find that the algorithm doesn't actually help any of us as we don't know even know how it works as he hasn't explained it. If he wants to use it as a tool for himself fine but honestly I feel like it's done caused confusion more than anything else. I wont be using it as a tool in any of my analysis, would be interested in seeing what others choose to do. He's not where near out of his scum range I can't help but feel like there is scum between you and him, so if it isn't you maybe you should open your mind to the possibility of Penta?PentaFlare - Remains my strongest town read. I don't think he ever puts forth the effort to devise an votal analysis algorithm and writes it all IRL if he's scum - it's the type of thing that will never enter his mind. He's also pretty cagey which is characteristic of his town game. Never lynch. Crossbell said: You know there at the end I could see this possibly being a town!Claire play, I haven't seen enough of Denja to say he's actually doing his segregation duties but the vibe here is that I was way off base. VC also makes me feel like me, cp, grape, and clarie were all town just bashing one another. DenjaX - Mild town read, though it's a bit angleshooty. I don't think Claire ever falseclaims Tracker, retracts it, then replaces out, as scum, like this. Claire isn't the type of player who goes on massive fishing expeditions and sacrifices herself and I highly doubt she replaces out as scum. Denja claiming that the wagons were town/town is a good look for him because he could have easily just picked up his mislynches by saying that one of logic or Grape were scum if he is scum and if logic is town here. Crossbell said: I already talked about this earlierLogic - Once again, decent town read, though I acknowledge the possibility that he is forcing down mislynch after mislynch like the last game he played. Maybe he locks himself into scumreading Grapefruit D2 and tries to talk his way out of it, but in my experience, scum are less inclined to start major fights like this. Just that most of the stances he's took this game (giving me the benefit of the doubt, then slowly scumreading me as I continued to provide less content because Busy and Not Motivated) make a lot of sense and are not agenda related. 10 bucks this is the read I'm wrong with in endgame though. Crossbell said: I also find this one unlikely the attack on me to start this phase raised some flags but that is me being biased. I have wrestled with t/s and if she is scum here she got me good. RE1031 - Had a couple of townie posts around Day 2 that I pointed out, and I don't think that she townreads Grape so hard if she is indeed scum. That's an easy mislynch scum!RE can push and I don't think scum!RE seals away the mislynch there unless the team is exactly (RE/grrr/???) which seems unlikely given wagon analysis? Crossbell said: Personally I would switch Penta with ShinichiSo yeah. Penta/Denja/Logic/RE. Do not lynch. Crossbell said: Again from my PoV switch Shinichi and Penta. Penta/Lamby/grrr/folowind/you I can see followind/Penta or Crosss/grrr or Lam-BShinichi/Lamby/grrr/followind I believe where the remaining scum are at. Crossbell said: I never played Magical Girls what has he done this game that makes him scum and can you give a clear example of why he feels like Magical Girls Shinichi here?Shinichi is doing the thing like he did in Magical Girl Crossover where he looks like he's scumhunting, so I give town points to him, then he ends up being scum? Sollux wasn't all that active and I respect Shinichi trying to pull out the slot, but I haven't really seen too much from him. Shinichi - Can you give me your thoughts on the other people in the PoE pool? Lamby, grrr, and followind? Crossbell said: Don't put it past Kit to modkill that slot which is bad for us if Lam-B is town it means we are in Mylo right now. Lamby will likely be replaced; I will analyze his replacement. Crossbell said: Already found a contradiction here definitely want to hear a response to that. grrr is completely anti-town and should have been vigged. Honestly, now that I think about it - in the worlds where Logic is town (which is a world that I believe in) I think grr has to be scum here? He basically tunneled Logic all throughout Day 2 and now Day 3 and didn't really do anything to stop the Grapefruit lynch. His logic push reads as extremely agenda related where it feels like he's trying to score the mislynch but I have no idea how grrr plays so ??? Crossbell said: I have only played this game with him and the fewthings that really stands out are the fact he understands the importance of RVS but did participate (he could have joined a train for pressure), he stayed away from Penta/Claire situation (I posted about that already), and his softball-y vote on Grapefruit without really considering much else D2. followind feels like lurky scum here, and that's why my vote is on him. In a number of games I've been able to townread followind pretty easily for showing some town mindset in his posts but that's entirely absent here. He isn't scumhunting, he's just bandwagonning, and we need to actually lynch the scum as opposed to the fiesta Yesterday. Pull heads out of floors and let's lynch the actual scum here, folks. Crossbell said: I hope so too, looking forward to hearing back from you. FYI I am willing to vote followind but that wouldn't clear my suspicions of you even if he flips scum.Hopefully I'll have time to expound upon Things tomorrow but this is roughly where I'm at. |
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🐭 Unofficial Vote Count Day 3 🐭 Crossbell (2) logic340, RE1031, logic340 (1) grrr followind (1) Crossbell Not Voting Shinichi-Kun, Lam-B, followind, PentaFlare, DenjaX 🐭 Vote History 🐭 Logic notes: Let's get it together town and mafia teams!! This participation is not good imo and Kit warned us at the beginning of this phase. Let's give @Kit and @Gruffin a D3 befitting of Kitty Mafia!! 🕒 Countdown to Night 3 🕒 |
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| This is sad :,3 @PentaFlare - now that night is over what do you think of Crossbell's contribution? Is this scum or town Crossbell? What about followind? I am trying to put an ISO together now but I think he is pretty certain to be scum. What makes me suspicious of you is I cannot say you and Cross are unaligned and you are pushing the idea of scum spreading out on your algorithm thing. You haven't pressed on Cross at all and Cross's town reads this game have no substance. What did you get from that question you asked cross early game anyway? @grrr - Continue pressing my lynch I want to see who goes with you @Shinichi-kun - I know Denja isn't helping anything but lets pretend he is town. What does that mean for your PoE given the Vote Counts? @DenjaX I need to see you doing segregation duties. Can't afford to give you benefit today like I did yesterday. @followind - what are you going to do this phase? I need to see a read list from you I want to know how you feel about each player remaining in the game. @RE1031 - I really feel like you are town at this point. What do you think of follow/Penta or Crossbell/Lam-b or grrr scum team? Do you think Crossbell and Penta could be on the same scum team given how yesterdays vote went? @Lam-B I see you were online yesterday did you need to make the night kill? I do hope everything is well with you IRL. @Crossbell - I just have no words right now. Not really sure what to make of you this game. As disconnected as you have been you have a lot of town reads and I find that suspicious. |
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