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Mar 26, 2017 6:26 PM
#1951
Shinichi-Kun said: I was pretty much at the same point. Town leans on willow and crossbell moved back to neutral Claire and Grape were my scum reads (obviously grape is town and I'm lost on Claire/Denja). So everyone in neutral at the moment. Sollux read pure but not enough content for me to be comfortable giving him a town read. You feel like the most townie person to me right now. Penta is mechanically town and I really felt he was town during that real time. RE same during real time during the Claire situation she felt town now not so sure. Not sure how this whole thing got turned on me and Grapefruit from Penta/Denja? logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Crossbell said: Because she is scum.Just that, if you're town here, WHY THE HECK WOULD FALSECLAIM A GUILTY CHECK ON DAY 2. what happened to this logic? How bout this pretend day 2never happened, ased on dayy 1 alone what would u do ow? D1 Thoughts knowing what I now know: Claire, Grape, CP, Me was probably town going around in circles while Mafia let us setup mislynches on one another. Obviously not so sure about Claire's slot but I think this is a decent assumption at this time. How did things move from CP/Claire/grrr to Rosie? Crossbell suggests it to Grape he jumps we all go with him, that's all she wrote. CP has that overnight exchange with Penta about talking NKA, Penta moves from reading CP scum to town without really showing his thought process until after the fact. Comes with the NKA talk to start D2 says CP lost the ability to do so which told him CP was town. Lam-B seems pretty townie early but that has diminished with his absence and position on both vote trains. |
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Mar 26, 2017 6:27 PM
#1952
PentaFlare said: I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. |
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Mar 26, 2017 6:28 PM
#1953
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Was this early in the game or later? |
Mar 26, 2017 6:29 PM
#1954
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I was pretty much at the same point. Town leans on willow and crossbell moved back to neutral Claire and Grape were my scum reads (obviously grape is town and I'm lost on Claire/Denja). So everyone in neutral at the moment. Sollux read pure but not enough content for me to be comfortable giving him a town read. You feel like the most townie person to me right now. Penta is mechanically town and I really felt he was town during that real time. RE same during real time during the Claire situation she felt town now not so sure. Not sure how this whole thing got turned on me and Grapefruit from Penta/Denja? logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: He's living at the top of the thread instead of thinking about all the different angles as they are presented to him.....not happy with myself right now.logic340 said: Crossbell said: Because she is scum.Just that, if you're town here, WHY THE HECK WOULD FALSECLAIM A GUILTY CHECK ON DAY 2. what happened to this logic? How bout this pretend day 2never happened, ased on dayy 1 alone what would u do ow? D1 Thoughts knowing what I now know: Claire, Grape, CP, Me was probably town going around in circles while Mafia let us setup mislynches on one another. Obviously not so sure about Claire's slot but I think this is a decent assumption at this time. How did things move from CP/Claire/grrr to Rosie? Crossbell suggests it to Grape he jumps we all go with him, that's all she wrote. CP has that overnight exchange with Penta about talking NKA, Penta moves from reading CP scum to town without really showing his thought process until after the fact. Comes with the NKA talk to start D2 says CP lost the ability to do so which told him CP was town. Lam-B seems pretty townie early but that has diminished with his absence and position on both vote trains. Exactly so through process of elimination who do u think si scum? |
Mar 26, 2017 6:31 PM
#1955
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. ok ok i got it u 2 prove your resiliance |
Mar 26, 2017 6:50 PM
#1956
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Was this early in the game or later? Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Was this early in the game or later? Second and third day I think? It was the Magi Summer Event game. |
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Mar 26, 2017 6:53 PM
#1957
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim! |
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Mar 26, 2017 6:54 PM
#1958
| @Shinichi-kun I leave these read lists and no one responds to them. logic340 said: logic340 said: Sollux16 - I have like no impression of him so far this game. Crossbell-willow - I think I gave these two the benefit of the doubt day 1. I'll be going over both of them this phase for sure. RE1031 - she has some interesting things and it's not that I think she is scum for it I have her in neutral and it just keeps me from moving her into the town side. Logic340 - he's scum lynch that guy Grapefruit21 - similar to RE but less due to early scum read. Ideological differences (check) likely town grape Lam-B - Town lean nothing's changed followind - I definitely need to take a closer look here he's had some interesting posts. No reel feel, neutral PentaFlare-_Claire_ - one of them is scum grrr - waiting on people's opinions but slight town lean. Edit: Typos on meowbile I can't type with these claws sollux/Shinichi - still no impression. Not Enough Info pile Crossbell - Early town vibe has faded with his activity. I didn't like his stance during the Claire situation and I agree with willow it felt like role fishing on pages 22-23. willow - My thoughts are already on the previous page slight town lean. RE1031 - I've wrestled with it long enough I'm moving her to the town side. Her interactions during the whole claim situation felt town to me. She didn't automatically believe the claim and asked some good questions in #1100. Logic - He's still scum lynch him already Grapefruit - Early part of the Claire claim felt like town Grapefruit but then page 22 and 23 took me back to thinking scum Grapefruit. His reads have no substance right now relying on gut and emotional tells. Where's Transparent Grapefruit give off to? I honestly feel like good position in the whole role claim situation is a good position for scum to take if they're not going to take a back seat. Lam-B - Hasn't posted similar to Cross but not as extreme the early town vibe has faded with activity. Moving back to neutral. followind - I want to see where this vote on Grapefruit goes. He's played the background most of the game and it's someone who is under the radar for me. Neutral PentaFlare - I hope this is town Penta. I'm willing to change it this phase and reconsider later. The way he handled that claim situation he's be feeling comfortable here. Claire/DenjaX - My top suspect was replaced by "best town". I haven't even reconciled how I feel about Claire pointing suspicion st Penta and now I get to deal with Denja XD. I'm torn I just saw town Claire make a similar play but this one feels different. Hard to hold Denja accountable so back to a note neutral with a scum lean on predecessor. grrr - The vote on Claire makes sense, the vote on me doesn't. Like RE I'm getting town vibes here but I have asked Lam and Cross their opinions (still waiting in response), but I don't think he's scum here with how he handled CP situation day one. Slight Town Lean; Crossbell, amberwillow, Lam-B Neutral: Sollux16, RE1031, CorruptedPurity, followind, PentaFlare, grrr Slight Scum Lean: Grapefruit21, _Claire_, Oyasumi_Rosie Slight Town Lean; Lam-B Neutral: Crossbell, amberwillow, Sollux16, RE1031, CorruptedPurity, followind, PentaFlare, grrr Slight Scum Lean: Grapefruit21, _Claire_ Town Lean: Penta, RE Slight Town Lean: grrr, willow Neutral: Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX Scum Lean: Grapefruit sollux/Shinichi - sollux left zero impression, sure he read pure but that isn't enough for me to have confidence in a town read. Shinichi feel town to me here but could be my biased as he took my side in the Grape thing. Crossbell - Early town vibe has faded with his activity. Not liking his stance on Claire/Penta not liking his activity (lack there of), and his "catching up post" are leaving more of an impression than anything else, except he finds himself involved in the lynch somehow. Neutral leaning scum. willow - I have swung widely on this player throughout this game. Felt really good about them on the last read list and never would think I would swing back so far. They have played the middle on all the major issue thus far and the way that vote moved EoD2 is more suspicious than EoD1. From town lean to leaning scum. RE1031 - Wrestled with T/N moved her to town but that EoD is just bizarre. Not sure what to make of her and surely am not as comfortable as I was. Back to Neutral you go. Logic - I keep saying he's scum why hasn't he been lynched yet? Lam-B - Hasn't posted similar to Cross but not as extreme the early town vibe has faded with activity. Still in neutral. followind - His vote on Grapefruit just sat there and when he was in the thread he didn't really add anything. Going to have to pressure this slot and will be looking here first. Neutral with an ever so slight scum lean PentaFlare - I hope this is town Penta. I was willing to chance it D2 but now it's time to really look here. Not sure what to make of him as behaviorally he's probably the towniest but that's not outside his scum range and may be something to consider? Neutral Claire/DenjaX - My top suspect was replaced by "best town". I still find Claire's D1 scummy and the pointing suspicion without explaining it doesn't help anything. Denja got the benefit but I need to see if he was really doing his segregation duties or just trolling this phase. grrr - I've given this slot way to much benefit of the doubt to this point. I have asked multiple players multiple time about him and no one has responded (Lam, Cross, Denja). I cannot read this player and it seems no one else can either we need to work together on this one. Town Lean: Shinichi-kun Neutral: DenjaX, Lam-B, grrr, PentaFlare, RE1031 Scum Lean: Crossbell, willow, followind |
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Mar 26, 2017 6:55 PM
#1959
PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim! This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it. |
Mar 26, 2017 6:56 PM
#1960
| @logic340 Town Lean: Penta, RE Slight Town Lean: grrr, willow Neutral: Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX Scum Lean: Grapefruit what has changed here now? |
Mar 26, 2017 7:02 PM
#1961
Shinichi-Kun said: #1958@logic340 Town Lean: Penta, RE Slight Town Lean: grrr, willow Neutral: Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX Scum Lean: Grapefruit what has changed here now? |
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Mar 26, 2017 7:10 PM
#1962
| Also people need to not be under the impression that just cause someone doesnt respond directly too it doesnt mean they did not read it lol, cause i read every posts and reply to the ones i need to. Willow mind changes to quickly i kinda find that more a town lean than a sucm lean because it means see doesnt wanna hurt town with her actons. Logic you have a good heart and ik you have the best intentions for town but sometimes i think youneed to open yourself up to plenty of options instead of just focusing on the 1 situation that seems to get created every phase. First being claire X penta then Grape X You. Lamby where ever he is will most likely psot sonish cause the week ends over for him and we will get more of an insight but we should not be waiting for him to post just to find out next move. Denja Idk what your plan is but ik one thing your crazy plans/theories work 50% of the time and are used regardless of alignment which is why i dont trust you but i dont scum read you. Grrrr idk what you want, but something about you makes u scum this game i absolutely feel it. Unlike your last game aka prison mafia i cant see u being town this game. So yes you are one of my scum reads. Crossbell im still neutral on you because iwasnt here from the start of the game and im still slowly catching up so ill get back to you. Penta idk if ur town or scum but one things for sure if im right about grrr being scum you have a high chance of being partners with him. Re I also belive you are town atleast ur mindset says that but idk about your actions. |
Mar 26, 2017 7:11 PM
#1963
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: #1958@logic340 Town Lean: Penta, RE Slight Town Lean: grrr, willow Neutral: Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX Scum Lean: Grapefruit what has changed here now? do u have a lose of words now lol? Also i didnt see that last spoiler my bad. |
Mar 26, 2017 7:13 PM
#1964
| Forgot to add fillowind i confused him with being dead cause of my other game XD But followindi really dont know what your going for and why you make some of the decisions you do. But i honestly wanna hear come clear thoughts from you. I really want strong reads fro you, cause if not ill def add u to the list of people i scum read. |
Mar 26, 2017 7:16 PM
#1965
Shinichi-Kun said: Nah, no lose of words they are in #1958. updated read list for how i currently feel. Slowly back reading currently on page 6.logic said: #1958 do u have a lose of words now lol? Also i didnt see that last spoiler my bad. |
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Mar 26, 2017 7:26 PM
#1966
PentaFlare said: Well, since I didn't get anything out of that attempt to not comment on any of the main wagons, time to do a dump from my notes. Please don't just skip over this because it is a wall or just nod along and move on. I want to know what others think about what I'm bringing up. My thoughts regarding CorruptedPurity: Corrupted is probably mafia. Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting. The first post which seems scummy is #51 where they comment on Grapefruit's ultimatum. Paraphrased, the post is "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". This emphasis is placed on the second half, being that this isn't normal grapefruit. This kind of post does two things: creates doubt about grapefruit and suggests a scumlean based on meta. However, the post includes only facts and skips the throught process. There isn't a "this is unusual for grape and since I've only seen them as town this different behavious makes me think they are a different alignment". That would be a scumlean, however small (considering this is only the top of the second page). Instead, therefore, the scumlean is not the main intent of this post, so it must be the doubt. Creating doubt about other players so early is scummy because town only cast doubt on decently developed scumreads. In #110, Corrupted talks about the grapefruit post again and makes it even more clear that the goal is not the scumlean because they suggest both a mafia motive behind the change and a town motive behind the change. Possibility of either = doubt. A little further down in #117 they answer my day cop question addressed to Crossbell. They obviously know I'm asking a hypothetical question because they list me as one of the options. Therefore, I can only see one reason for answering the question. They are seizing the opportunity to contribute to just about anything because contribution seems townlike. It is true that town can also try to look like town because getting lynched as town is bad but this is much more often a mafia action because mafia can't rely on genuine towniness. However, the extra thing that tips it further into being a mafia motivated action is that another town member would also be interested in how Cross would respond. Discussing the topic before Cross can answer would likely make Cross's answer less important because of the amount that's been discussed already. (luckily Cross reads and answers in order). It is likely that Corrupted simply wasn't interested in finding out Cross's alignment which a town member wouldn't be. These two things combined make answering the question more mafia-like than townie. #150 also explicitly states there is no scumread on grapefruit. The shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade. It is true that #155 is expressing a town mindset. Taking a close look at voters who build large trains is important. However, this isn't a very strong townlean. The three scumleans mentioned so far are adding up to a stronger swing that way. I'm not going to cite much of the discussion of cop checks and order of priority. It is nice that they are expressing suspicions, but overall I find it non-alignment indicative. The only other posts are trying to pry information out of me but that is also non-alignment indicative because I was being so antitown that I was a super easy target to pressure no matter what the alignment of the person doing the pressuring was. That's all for now folks! Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are: "Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting." "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". "shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade." Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire? |
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Mar 26, 2017 7:32 PM
#1967
| Taking a break for a while leaving off on page 7. |
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Mar 26, 2017 8:33 PM
#1968
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim! This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it. Lol. I was working on a VCA post at the time, then my internet cut out. That post never got finished. I might try and rewrite it during class tomorrow. |
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Mar 26, 2017 8:35 PM
#1969
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Well, since I didn't get anything out of that attempt to not comment on any of the main wagons, time to do a dump from my notes. Please don't just skip over this because it is a wall or just nod along and move on. I want to know what others think about what I'm bringing up. My thoughts regarding CorruptedPurity: Corrupted is probably mafia. Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting. The first post which seems scummy is #51 where they comment on Grapefruit's ultimatum. Paraphrased, the post is "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". This emphasis is placed on the second half, being that this isn't normal grapefruit. This kind of post does two things: creates doubt about grapefruit and suggests a scumlean based on meta. However, the post includes only facts and skips the throught process. There isn't a "this is unusual for grape and since I've only seen them as town this different behavious makes me think they are a different alignment". That would be a scumlean, however small (considering this is only the top of the second page). Instead, therefore, the scumlean is not the main intent of this post, so it must be the doubt. Creating doubt about other players so early is scummy because town only cast doubt on decently developed scumreads. In #110, Corrupted talks about the grapefruit post again and makes it even more clear that the goal is not the scumlean because they suggest both a mafia motive behind the change and a town motive behind the change. Possibility of either = doubt. A little further down in #117 they answer my day cop question addressed to Crossbell. They obviously know I'm asking a hypothetical question because they list me as one of the options. Therefore, I can only see one reason for answering the question. They are seizing the opportunity to contribute to just about anything because contribution seems townlike. It is true that town can also try to look like town because getting lynched as town is bad but this is much more often a mafia action because mafia can't rely on genuine towniness. However, the extra thing that tips it further into being a mafia motivated action is that another town member would also be interested in how Cross would respond. Discussing the topic before Cross can answer would likely make Cross's answer less important because of the amount that's been discussed already. (luckily Cross reads and answers in order). It is likely that Corrupted simply wasn't interested in finding out Cross's alignment which a town member wouldn't be. These two things combined make answering the question more mafia-like than townie. #150 also explicitly states there is no scumread on grapefruit. The shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade. It is true that #155 is expressing a town mindset. Taking a close look at voters who build large trains is important. However, this isn't a very strong townlean. The three scumleans mentioned so far are adding up to a stronger swing that way. I'm not going to cite much of the discussion of cop checks and order of priority. It is nice that they are expressing suspicions, but overall I find it non-alignment indicative. The only other posts are trying to pry information out of me but that is also non-alignment indicative because I was being so antitown that I was a super easy target to pressure no matter what the alignment of the person doing the pressuring was. That's all for now folks! Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are: "Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting." "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". "shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade." Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire? I did explain my thought process in a brief summary during the night phase though. Very brief admittedly, but I had changed my mind before the flip, not after. |
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Mar 26, 2017 8:36 PM
#1970
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: not really like i said before he prob just knew claiming wouldnt change anyhing thats al. That doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be my hero. As you probably know, I love not claiming while under pressure. SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim. I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway. Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim! This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it. Lol. I was working on a VCA post at the time, then my internet cut out. That post never got finished. I might try and rewrite it during class tomorrow. welp lol |
Mar 26, 2017 8:44 PM
#1971
PentaFlare said: I'll go find it,, I'm sure you're right as my mind is so jumbled.right now....logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Well, since I didn't get anything out of that attempt to not comment on any of the main wagons, time to do a dump from my notes. Please don't just skip over this because it is a wall or just nod along and move on. I want to know what others think about what I'm bringing up. My thoughts regarding CorruptedPurity: Corrupted is probably mafia. Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting. The first post which seems scummy is #51 where they comment on Grapefruit's ultimatum. Paraphrased, the post is "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". This emphasis is placed on the second half, being that this isn't normal grapefruit. This kind of post does two things: creates doubt about grapefruit and suggests a scumlean based on meta. However, the post includes only facts and skips the throught process. There isn't a "this is unusual for grape and since I've only seen them as town this different behavious makes me think they are a different alignment". That would be a scumlean, however small (considering this is only the top of the second page). Instead, therefore, the scumlean is not the main intent of this post, so it must be the doubt. Creating doubt about other players so early is scummy because town only cast doubt on decently developed scumreads. In #110, Corrupted talks about the grapefruit post again and makes it even more clear that the goal is not the scumlean because they suggest both a mafia motive behind the change and a town motive behind the change. Possibility of either = doubt. A little further down in #117 they answer my day cop question addressed to Crossbell. They obviously know I'm asking a hypothetical question because they list me as one of the options. Therefore, I can only see one reason for answering the question. They are seizing the opportunity to contribute to just about anything because contribution seems townlike. It is true that town can also try to look like town because getting lynched as town is bad but this is much more often a mafia action because mafia can't rely on genuine towniness. However, the extra thing that tips it further into being a mafia motivated action is that another town member would also be interested in how Cross would respond. Discussing the topic before Cross can answer would likely make Cross's answer less important because of the amount that's been discussed already. (luckily Cross reads and answers in order). It is likely that Corrupted simply wasn't interested in finding out Cross's alignment which a town member wouldn't be. These two things combined make answering the question more mafia-like than townie. #150 also explicitly states there is no scumread on grapefruit. The shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade. It is true that #155 is expressing a town mindset. Taking a close look at voters who build large trains is important. However, this isn't a very strong townlean. The three scumleans mentioned so far are adding up to a stronger swing that way. I'm not going to cite much of the discussion of cop checks and order of priority. It is nice that they are expressing suspicions, but overall I find it non-alignment indicative. The only other posts are trying to pry information out of me but that is also non-alignment indicative because I was being so antitown that I was a super easy target to pressure no matter what the alignment of the person doing the pressuring was. That's all for now folks! Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are: "Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting." "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". "shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade." Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire? I did explain my thought process in a brief summary during the night phase though. Very brief admittedly, but I had changed my mind before the flip, not after. |
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Mar 26, 2017 11:06 PM
#1972
Starting now until the end of the current Night Phase, any night actions should be sent to @Kit to be sure they will be processed. If you do not send your action to @Kit it may not be received. @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell @RE1031 @Logic340 @Lam-B @amberwillow @followind @PentaFlare @DenjaX @grrr |
Mar 27, 2017 5:24 AM
#1973
| Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins? |
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Mar 27, 2017 7:00 AM
#1974
logic340 said: Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins? I just got up but got a dentist appointment in 1 hour once i get back we can chat |
Mar 27, 2017 7:53 AM
#1975
Shinichi-Kun said: I'll be around. I am at work but got some free time to put some work in.logic340 said: Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins? I just got up but got a dentist appointment in 1 hour once i get back we can chat |
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Mar 27, 2017 7:55 AM
#1976
This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do. |
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Mar 27, 2017 8:04 AM
#1977
PentaFlare said: help me out here. The higher the points mean the more scummy they are?This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do. |
Mar 27, 2017 8:09 AM
#1978
DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: help me out here. The higher the points mean the more scummy they are?This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do. Yup |
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Mar 27, 2017 8:14 AM
#1979
| @logic340 What do you think of Crossbell's vote switch from Claire to Rosie D1? |
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Mar 27, 2017 8:23 AM
#1980
PentaFlare said: Can you help me understand how you got the points?This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do. |
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Mar 27, 2017 8:25 AM
#1981
| I have to look closer into it. I am currently doing a grrr, ISO. (I know it sound futile but hey we need to discuss him) I moved from Claire to Rosie as well but I had Rosie as a scumspect for most of the phase. Cross was MIA didn't like Rosie's town list and voted Rosie. This is just off the top of my head will need to go back and look at the vote and the lead up to it. Edit: added bolded |
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Mar 27, 2017 9:36 AM
#1982
| grrr #40 - Vote Logic #428 - Feels the counter train to mine formed averagely fast. Says I haven't shown anything to warrant him moving his vote he's good with a vote on me. #429 - Thanks Grapefruit for post #147 says he would vote CP but he has enough votes already. #430 - Sasys never mind he town reads CP. CP is 123 guy can we lynch elsewhere today like Logic? Anyone but CP is fine #431 - Says we have 9 hours to save our good town friend Purity. #432 - Tells Penta sadly he's right about his case but CP is town. Says he wouldn't bother talking to Crossbell. #433 - Asks Claire who she is going to kill tonight says if he dies Claire is mafia confirmed. #750 - Says he doesn't have enough time to backread 5 pages. Tells willow that CP isn't dying today he will white knight him. Says that Claire and Rosie are options. #756 - Asks if we can get Claire votes Rosie #758 - Asks if we can get Claire agian #767 - Says that Claire is scummy he's 28% sure she is scum #769 - Tells Sollux he will not tell him why he voted Rosie while pushing Claire #772 - In response to Sollux asking if he had a scum read on him grrr syad he does now. #777 - Laughs at Sollux switching his vote to grrr last minute says that something #793 - in response to my Why Rosie post he says "Oh please.... "lynch rosie guys, lets lynch rosie, rosie is the worst" and now "oh poor rosie"." #798 - Answers Grapefruit about why CP is town for 12345 post #800 - Tells amber he will need to read things, asks people not to post much during the night he will scum read them. #807 - Tells amber that Cross and I are buddies that is why I was removed from the suspect list on Rosie's train. #810 - His town block is him willow and CP weird since his town block scum reads him. #817 - Tells RE her point is irrelevant as logic is scum. Cross is too, he doesn't care about Cross's plans with the highlights just that he is scummy for not being objective #826 - Tells Grapefruit to make things clear he is scum reading me cannot read Crossbell, #830 - Tells amber it's time for back reading #834 - Tells Claire there is no Claire and grrr #837 - In response to me saying he may find reasons to scum read me later he says he is finding them now. #841 - Tells Purity that an apology for scum reading him though he protected him isn't necessary. #845 - Tells RE he is blindly convinced I am scum, points on Crossbell are he could also be scum, that's just a scum read as his convictions on me being scum are high. Suspects me more due to feeling perceived saltiness. #863 - Tells Claire to please die tonight. #1227 - In response to me asking for the scum team to come out he says "I am here". He's skimmed the pages has a positive feeling votes me but feels he will have to move it later on. #1228 - Votes me again to make it visable #1229 - Says I need to explain why I want Claire lynched he will be back in 3 hours #1230 - No more Claire in response to her telling amber not to try and understand here before she gets scum read for it. #1231 - Asks if Claire slipped that badly #1233 - Says he doesn't believe me about the Claire situation says that Claire is not some crying kid. #1272 - Tells Penta he explained his town read on CP and explains it again. As town he will put things down for future reference usually related to his ability. CP flipping VT confuses him but he's happy he was right. #1273 - Tells RE that scum reading the night posters was a joke he just hates back reading long posts. #1277 - He's caught up vote's Claire "prepare for the drama" #1278 - Responds to Sollux voting on him, says he usually doesn't but will make an acceptation here. Places a more serious vote on me and asks my reasons for my position on Penta vs. Claire #1279 - Tells willow he may know her dark secrets #1280 - Ignorant of the patting himself on the back joke? I think not....lol. #1281 - Requests that the Dr do not protect him he can handle himself. #1282 - Tells Penta he believes Penta is town due to what happened with Claire. Says he would have suspected Penta for the cop claim and explains why it was hard to follow. #1289 - Asks if my cat is related to my role. #1317 - Tells Claire I am getting lynched unless I come with abig ass claim. Says Claire is next. #1320 - In response to grapefruit gut town read on him he asks if Grapefruit would protect him tonight? #1322 - Places high priority on Penta being protected #1324 - Mentions first it was him but now Claire isn't answering willow's question either #1328 - Believes that I was only trying to pressure Claire and not lynch her. He doesn't buy it as pressure over something easily confirmed is useless. #1332 - Tells Grapefruit that he ususally ignores things he sees about other games. Using previous experience to build a case is good but quoting things from a previous game seems useless. #1334 - Says if I am not mafia this game he will put me on the list of people he cannot read. #1337 - In response to Penta saying grrr is not a good protection target, grrr says especially when he asked not to be protected. #1341 - Says Claire is town otherwise we'd do all this drama in the scum club. #1343 - Says please not Denja we were just getting serious. #1568 - Says there is no way he is moving his vote of me at this point. Says a second vote train isn't a bad option and says maybe it should be a nonvoter (with the exception of Penta) but no one that I suggest. He believes there are 2 or 3 mafia given the setup. #1622 - Tell Denja that his vote on RE seems random. Says he would vote RE but isn't sure why Denja is. #1625 - Asks if we are seriously not lynching logic today #1626 - Votes RE says he'd rather lynch people who don't vote 80% confirmed mafia #1628 - Tells Denja to please try to lynch him as he wants to see how it would go. Thoughts: I've been scum to him pretty much the entire game. Not sure that Mafia would sit on one person for two entire days (though his vote moved off me both days). #428-#432 - This is a weird string of posts. First he says that the CP train formed averagely fast as a counter to mine and is good with his vote on me. He says he would vote CP but there are enough votes already. Next post he changes his position saying that he remember CP is 12345 guy and that he is town for that post. From here he says CP is town and we need to save CP (his vote reflects this later in the phase). #433 - Not sure what to make of him asking CLaire who she will kill tonight? Truth in plain sight? Just trolling here? Showing suspicion of her? I am not sure what to make of it. #750 - Says he wont be letting CP die today, this is inline with his earlier comments #756-#758 - Suggest Claire as an option instead of Rosie. I really wish I would have poked more to see if he was serious or not. By this time people are trying to make sure there isn't a tie. #769 - Not sure if he really scum reads Sollux or not as that goes nowhere. #863 - Not sure what to make of his interactions with Claire. Denja/grrr sounds like a scary scum team though. #1282 - I agree with as I got the same feeling and in real time but I am still weary. #1317 - I don't get lynched and I didn't come up with a big ass claim #1334 - I really want to see this list after I flip #1622 - Posturing himself for a move to RE? Haven't really seen him scum reading her this raises an eyebrow #1626 - Vote's RE (which actually helped to save me). #1628 - Does he exude this much confidence as scum? Posts like this make me say town but I cannot be certain and would like others to weigh in. Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. |
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Mar 27, 2017 9:43 AM
#1983
I still find it weird that so many people switched to rosie |
Mar 27, 2017 9:47 AM
#1984
logic340 said: Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. -yes -prob not i never know why he town reads some people -yes an no -He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself??? -Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum -something else -no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case |
Mar 27, 2017 9:53 AM
#1985
Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. -yes -prob not i never know why he town reads some people -yes an no -He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself??? -Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum -something else -no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case -Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight. -Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right. -I'm confused but I get what you mean -This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue. -I am feeling it....lol. -Fair enough -Yes I agree he is a strange case. |
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Mar 27, 2017 10:03 AM
#1986
Crossbell said: 1. You had CP as village in your read list just 6 posts earlier why would you be willing to support a wagon of one of your town reads?So tl;dr: 1. I would be willing to support the CP wagon if needed, but it's not a lynch I really support. I get the feeling that he's a competent player, and I like to leave those players alive for later regardless of alignment. 2. I would be willing to lynch Rosie or Claire. I guess I would be willing to lynch grr, but he's an infinitely better vig shot than a lynch. If we lynch him and he flips town, then we get zero information. So he's not a lynch I super strongly support but I support vigging 100%. |
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Mar 27, 2017 10:09 AM
#1987
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. -yes -prob not i never know why he town reads some people -yes an no -He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself??? -Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum -something else -no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case -Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight. -Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right. -I'm confused but I get what you mean -This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue. -I am feeling it....lol. -Fair enough -Yes I agree he is a strange case. Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does. |
Mar 27, 2017 10:14 AM
#1988
Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built. Claire voted grrr followind voted grrr CorruptedPurity voted grrr Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity Claire moves her vote back to CP 🐭 Vote Count 1.7 🐭 CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_ Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity _Claire_ (2) Logic340, Crossbell Logic340 (1) Grrr RE1031 (1) Lam-B PentaFlare (1) Sollux16 Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031 Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow #720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP #724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well. #727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads. #730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list #734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post #736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit) #738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out. #741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch" #746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum" #747 - willow switches to Rosie #756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire. Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely. RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was. Grapefruit is confirmed town Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did. Logic broke tie and voted a scum read willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him. Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete. |
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Mar 27, 2017 10:15 AM
#1989
Shinichi-Kun said: Based on this assessment I would say he is probably acting more like the latter here. Would you agree?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. -yes -prob not i never know why he town reads some people -yes an no -He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself??? -Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum -something else -no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case -Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight. -Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right. -I'm confused but I get what you mean -This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue. -I am feeling it....lol. -Fair enough -Yes I agree he is a strange case. Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does. |
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Mar 27, 2017 10:38 AM
#1990
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Based on this assessment I would say he is probably acting more like the latter here. Would you agree?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Questions: -Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that? -If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post? -Is him calling me scum legitimate? -Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me? -If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched? -Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else? -As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him? I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now. -yes -prob not i never know why he town reads some people -yes an no -He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself??? -Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum -something else -no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case -Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight. -Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right. -I'm confused but I get what you mean -This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue. -I am feeling it....lol. -Fair enough -Yes I agree he is a strange case. Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does. Possibly lol like i said grrr isa wildcard most of the time. |
Mar 27, 2017 11:13 AM
#1991
logic340 said: Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built. Claire voted grrr followind voted grrr CorruptedPurity voted grrr Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity Claire moves her vote back to CP 🐭 Vote Count 1.7 🐭 CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_ Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity _Claire_ (2) Logic340, Crossbell Logic340 (1) Grrr RE1031 (1) Lam-B PentaFlare (1) Sollux16 Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031 Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow #720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP #724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well. #727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads. #730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list #734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post #736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit) #738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out. #741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch" #746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum" #747 - willow switches to Rosie #756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire. Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely. RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was. Grapefruit is confirmed town Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did. Logic broke tie and voted a scum read willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him. Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete. Way i see it is cross is potentially mafia that is hiding behind is huge town lean that many players are giving him. What do you tink @logic340? |
Mar 27, 2017 11:31 AM
#1992
Mar 27, 2017 11:38 AM
#1993
Mar 27, 2017 11:44 AM
#1994
| Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not. Bad thing is that assuming 3 mafia this means we are in lylo. hopefully the doc will be useful. I already given my results so no need to protect me. If there is a second vig. Please don't kill followind. There is 20% chance that he is town and shinichi is mafia. You can shoot logic though. Given that the first vigilante was 2-shot I doubt there is only 2 mafia. so we will have only one chance to get the last one (which may or not be willow >.> ) . |
Mar 27, 2017 11:46 AM
#1995
Mar 27, 2017 11:48 AM
#1996
DenjaX said: How many times did I say I though it could be T/T only to have him shoot it down and say I was scum? It's not that I didn't want to make a truce I just didn't like any of the options he was giving me and vice versa.@logic340 can you tell me your reason why did you not want to make a truce with Grape and make an alliance? |
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Mar 27, 2017 11:49 AM
#1997
DenjaX said: @logic340 can you tell me your reason why did you not want to make a truce with Grape and make an alliance? Why? Killing one of the 2 was much easier than waiting for a cop or invest role to out themselves to give results. |
Mar 27, 2017 11:50 AM
#1998
Shinichi-Kun said: I definitely think it's quite possible. He isn't out front leading like I am used to when he is town. And like I said other than being heavily involved in both votes EoD his catchup posts stand out more than anything else to me.logic340 said: Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built. Claire voted grrr followind voted grrr CorruptedPurity voted grrr Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity Claire moves her vote back to CP 🐭 Vote Count 1.7 🐭 CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_ Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity _Claire_ (2) Logic340, Crossbell Logic340 (1) Grrr RE1031 (1) Lam-B PentaFlare (1) Sollux16 Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031 Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow #720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP #724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well. #727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads. #730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list #734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post #736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit) #738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out. #741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch" #746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum" #747 - willow switches to Rosie #756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire. Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely. RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was. Grapefruit is confirmed town Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did. Logic broke tie and voted a scum read willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him. Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete. Way i see it is cross is potentially mafia that is hiding behind is huge town lean that many players are giving him. What do you tink @logic340? |
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Mar 27, 2017 11:51 AM
#1999
grrr said: Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not. Bad thing is that assuming 3 mafia this means we are in lylo. hopefully the doc will be useful. I already given my results so no need to protect me. If there is a second vig. Please don't kill followind. There is 20% chance that he is town and shinichi is mafia. You can shoot logic though. Given that the first vigilante was 2-shot I doubt there is only 2 mafia. so we will have only one chance to get the last one (which may or not be willow >.> ) . @_@ ????? |
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Mar 27, 2017 11:52 AM
#2000
Shinichi-Kun said: Well? what did you even find? Personally, this game became a mess just by dwelling on those 2. So I am going to PoE right now. There is nothing much to talk about and there are pending inactive waiting for modkill too.Why? Killing one of the 2 was much easier than waiting for a cop or invest role to out themselves to give results. |
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