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Mar 26, 2017 6:26 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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He's living at the top of the thread instead of thinking about all the different angles as they are presented to him.....not happy with myself right now.


How bout this pretend day 2never happened, ased on dayy 1 alone what would u do ow?
I was pretty much at the same point. Town leans on willow and crossbell moved back to neutral Claire and Grape were my scum reads (obviously grape is town and I'm lost on Claire/Denja). So everyone in neutral at the moment. Sollux read pure but not enough content for me to be comfortable giving him a town read. You feel like the most townie person to me right now. Penta is mechanically town and I really felt he was town during that real time. RE same during real time during the Claire situation she felt town now not so sure. Not sure how this whole thing got turned on me and Grapefruit from Penta/Denja?

D1 Thoughts knowing what I now know:
Claire, Grape, CP, Me was probably town going around in circles while Mafia let us setup mislynches on one another. Obviously not so sure about Claire's slot but I think this is a decent assumption at this time. How did things move from CP/Claire/grrr to Rosie? Crossbell suggests it to Grape he jumps we all go with him, that's all she wrote. CP has that overnight exchange with Penta about talking NKA, Penta moves from reading CP scum to town without really showing his thought process until after the fact. Comes with the NKA talk to start D2 says CP lost the ability to do so which told him CP was town. Lam-B seems pretty townie early but that has diminished with his absence and position on both vote trains.
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Mar 26, 2017 6:27 PM

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SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim.

I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.
I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.
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Mar 26, 2017 6:28 PM

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PentaFlare said:
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SAme but its kinda different if they're a power role, in that sense its pretty silly not to claim.

I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.


Was this early in the game or later?


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How bout this pretend day 2never happened, ased on dayy 1 alone what would u do ow?
I was pretty much at the same point. Town leans on willow and crossbell moved back to neutral Claire and Grape were my scum reads (obviously grape is town and I'm lost on Claire/Denja). So everyone in neutral at the moment. Sollux read pure but not enough content for me to be comfortable giving him a town read. You feel like the most townie person to me right now. Penta is mechanically town and I really felt he was town during that real time. RE same during real time during the Claire situation she felt town now not so sure. Not sure how this whole thing got turned on me and Grapefruit from Penta/Denja?

D1 Thoughts knowing what I now know:
Claire, Grape, CP, Me was probably town going around in circles while Mafia let us setup mislynches on one another. Obviously not so sure about Claire's slot but I think this is a decent assumption at this time. How did things move from CP/Claire/grrr to Rosie? Crossbell suggests it to Grape he jumps we all go with him, that's all she wrote. CP has that overnight exchange with Penta about talking NKA, Penta moves from reading CP scum to town without really showing his thought process until after the fact. Comes with the NKA talk to start D2 says CP lost the ability to do so which told him CP was town. Lam-B seems pretty townie early but that has diminished with his absence and position on both vote trains.


Exactly so through process of elimination who do u think si scum?


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logic340 said:
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I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.
I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.


ok ok i got it u 2 prove your resiliance


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Shinichi-Kun said:
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I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.


Was this early in the game or later?
Shinichi-Kun said:
PentaFlare said:

I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.


Was this early in the game or later?

Second and third day I think? It was the Magi Summer Event game.
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Mar 26, 2017 6:53 PM

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logic340 said:
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I've done that, not claimed as a PR. I think I actually got lynched because I refused to claim. Turns out it was mafia trying to force me to claim anyway.
I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.

Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim!
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@Shinichi-kun I leave these read lists and no one responds to them.

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sollux/Shinichi - still no impression. Not Enough Info pile
Crossbell - Early town vibe has faded with his activity. I didn't like his stance during the Claire situation and I agree with willow it felt like role fishing on pages 22-23.
willow - My thoughts are already on the previous page slight town lean.
RE1031 - I've wrestled with it long enough I'm moving her to the town side. Her interactions during the whole claim situation felt town to me. She didn't automatically believe the claim and asked some good questions in #1100.
Logic - He's still scum lynch him already
Grapefruit - Early part of the Claire claim felt like town Grapefruit but then page 22 and 23 took me back to thinking scum Grapefruit. His reads have no substance right now relying on gut and emotional tells. Where's Transparent Grapefruit give off to? I honestly feel like good position in the whole role claim situation is a good position for scum to take if they're not going to take a back seat.
Lam-B - Hasn't posted similar to Cross but not as extreme the early town vibe has faded with activity. Moving back to neutral.
followind - I want to see where this vote on Grapefruit goes. He's played the background most of the game and it's someone who is under the radar for me. Neutral
PentaFlare - I hope this is town Penta. I'm willing to change it this phase and reconsider later. The way he handled that claim situation he's be feeling comfortable here.
Claire/DenjaX - My top suspect was replaced by "best town". I haven't even reconciled how I feel about Claire pointing suspicion st Penta and now I get to deal with Denja XD. I'm torn I just saw town Claire make a similar play but this one feels different. Hard to hold Denja accountable so back to a note neutral with a scum lean on predecessor.
grrr - The vote on Claire makes sense, the vote on me doesn't. Like RE I'm getting town vibes here but I have asked Lam and Cross their opinions (still waiting in response), but I don't think he's scum here with how he handled CP situation day one.







sollux/Shinichi - sollux left zero impression, sure he read pure but that isn't enough for me to have confidence in a town read. Shinichi feel town to me here but could be my biased as he took my side in the Grape thing.
Crossbell - Early town vibe has faded with his activity. Not liking his stance on Claire/Penta not liking his activity (lack there of), and his "catching up post" are leaving more of an impression than anything else, except he finds himself involved in the lynch somehow. Neutral leaning scum.
willow - I have swung widely on this player throughout this game. Felt really good about them on the last read list and never would think I would swing back so far. They have played the middle on all the major issue thus far and the way that vote moved EoD2 is more suspicious than EoD1. From town lean to leaning scum.
RE1031 - Wrestled with T/N moved her to town but that EoD is just bizarre. Not sure what to make of her and surely am not as comfortable as I was. Back to Neutral you go.
Logic - I keep saying he's scum why hasn't he been lynched yet?
Lam-B - Hasn't posted similar to Cross but not as extreme the early town vibe has faded with activity. Still in neutral.
followind - His vote on Grapefruit just sat there and when he was in the thread he didn't really add anything. Going to have to pressure this slot and will be looking here first. Neutral with an ever so slight scum lean
PentaFlare - I hope this is town Penta. I was willing to chance it D2 but now it's time to really look here. Not sure what to make of him as behaviorally he's probably the towniest but that's not outside his scum range and may be something to consider? Neutral
Claire/DenjaX - My top suspect was replaced by "best town". I still find Claire's D1 scummy and the pointing suspicion without explaining it doesn't help anything. Denja got the benefit but I need to see if he was really doing his segregation duties or just trolling this phase.
grrr - I've given this slot way to much benefit of the doubt to this point. I have asked multiple players multiple time about him and no one has responded (Lam, Cross, Denja). I cannot read this player and it seems no one else can either we need to work together on this one.

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PentaFlare said:
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I've not claimed as a PR in FT where I was the DR. I faced a lynch 2 days in a row and didn't claim.

Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim!


This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it.


Mar 26, 2017 6:56 PM

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@logic340

Town Lean:
Penta, RE

Slight Town Lean:
grrr, willow

Neutral:
Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX

Scum Lean:
Grapefruit

what has changed here now?


Mar 26, 2017 7:02 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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Town Lean:
Penta, RE

Slight Town Lean:
grrr, willow

Neutral:
Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX

Scum Lean:
Grapefruit

what has changed here now?
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Also people need to not be under the impression that just cause someone doesnt respond directly too it doesnt mean they did not read it lol, cause i read every posts and reply to the ones i need to.

Willow mind changes to quickly i kinda find that more a town lean than a sucm lean because it means see doesnt wanna hurt town with her actons.

Logic you have a good heart and ik you have the best intentions for town but sometimes i think youneed to open yourself up to plenty of options instead of just focusing on the 1 situation that seems to get created every phase. First being claire X penta then Grape X You.

Lamby where ever he is will most likely psot sonish cause the week ends over for him and we will get more of an insight but we should not be waiting for him to post just to find out next move.

Denja Idk what your plan is but ik one thing your crazy plans/theories work 50% of the time and are used regardless of alignment which is why i dont trust you but i dont scum read you.

Grrrr idk what you want, but something about you makes u scum this game i absolutely feel it. Unlike your last game aka prison mafia i cant see u being town this game. So yes you are one of my scum reads.

Crossbell im still neutral on you because iwasnt here from the start of the game and im still slowly catching up so ill get back to you.

Penta idk if ur town or scum but one things for sure if im right about grrr being scum you have a high chance of being partners with him.

Re I also belive you are town atleast ur mindset says that but idk about your actions.


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logic340 said:
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Town Lean:
Penta, RE

Slight Town Lean:
grrr, willow

Neutral:
Lam-B, Shinichi, Crossbell, followind, DenjaX

Scum Lean:
Grapefruit

what has changed here now?
#1958


do u have a lose of words now lol? Also i didnt see that last spoiler my bad.


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Forgot to add fillowind i confused him with being dead cause of my other game XD

But followindi really dont know what your going for and why you make some of the decisions you do. But i honestly wanna hear come clear thoughts from you.

I really want strong reads fro you, cause if not ill def add u to the list of people i scum read.


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Shinichi-Kun said:
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do u have a lose of words now lol? Also i didnt see that last spoiler my bad.
Nah, no lose of words they are in #1958. updated read list for how i currently feel. Slowly back reading currently on page 6.
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Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are:
"Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting."
"This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit".
"shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade."

Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire?
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Mar 26, 2017 7:32 PM

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Taking a break for a while leaving off on page 7.
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Mar 26, 2017 8:33 PM

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Yay! Help me stop people from always trying to force their suspects to claim!


This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it.

Lol. I was working on a VCA post at the time, then my internet cut out. That post never got finished. I might try and rewrite it during class tomorrow.
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logic340 said:

Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are:
"Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting."
"This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit".
"shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade."

Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire?

I did explain my thought process in a brief summary during the night phase though. Very brief admittedly, but I had changed my mind before the flip, not after.
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PentaFlare said:
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This isnt relevant to the game right now you could aways work on a post pointing out the positives and negatives of this kind of situation :D im sure many would appreicate it.

Lol. I was working on a VCA post at the time, then my internet cut out. That post never got finished. I might try and rewrite it during class tomorrow.


welp lol


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PentaFlare said:
logic340 said:

Knowing that I didn't agree with this read, knwing how purity flipped, and seeing you say that Purity was casting shade for the sake of casting shade makes me feel like this is actually what you were doing. The lines that stand out to me the most are:
"Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting."
"This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit".
"shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade."

Knowing that you changed your mind on CP without showing your thought process until after the fact doesn't make me feel anymore comfortable about you either. I have to wonder why Claire chose you to pull her stunt on now if we are actually believing that came from town Claire?

I did explain my thought process in a brief summary during the night phase though. Very brief admittedly, but I had changed my mind before the flip, not after.
I'll go find it,, I'm sure you're right as my mind is so jumbled.right now....
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Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins?
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logic340 said:
Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins?


I just got up but got a dentist appointment in 1 hour once i get back we can chat


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Would anyone like to chat with me before the next phase begins?


I just got up but got a dentist appointment in 1 hour once i get back we can chat
I'll be around. I am at work but got some free time to put some work in.
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This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do.
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This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do.
help me out here. The higher the points mean the more scummy they are?

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This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do.
help me out here. The higher the points mean the more scummy they are?

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@logic340 What do you think of Crossbell's vote switch from Claire to Rosie D1?
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This is a purely mathematical VCA and uses only information about who was voted for, not any of the other useful information in the thread. That's the next part of what I have to do.
Can you help me understand how you got the points?
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@logic340 What do you think of Crossbell's vote switch from Claire to Rosie D1?
I have to look closer into it. I am currently doing a grrr, ISO. (I know it sound futile but hey we need to discuss him)
I moved from Claire to Rosie as well but I had Rosie as a scumspect for most of the phase. Cross was MIA didn't like Rosie's town list and voted Rosie. This is just off the top of my head will need to go back and look at the vote and the lead up to it.

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grrr


Thoughts:
I've been scum to him pretty much the entire game. Not sure that Mafia would sit on one person for two entire days (though his vote moved off me both days).
#428-#432 - This is a weird string of posts. First he says that the CP train formed averagely fast as a counter to mine and is good with his vote on me. He says he would vote CP but there are enough votes already. Next post he changes his position saying that he remember CP is 12345 guy and that he is town for that post. From here he says CP is town and we need to save CP (his vote reflects this later in the phase).
#433 - Not sure what to make of him asking CLaire who she will kill tonight? Truth in plain sight? Just trolling here? Showing suspicion of her? I am not sure what to make of it.
#750 - Says he wont be letting CP die today, this is inline with his earlier comments
#756-#758 - Suggest Claire as an option instead of Rosie. I really wish I would have poked more to see if he was serious or not. By this time people are trying to make sure there isn't a tie.
#769 - Not sure if he really scum reads Sollux or not as that goes nowhere.
#863 - Not sure what to make of his interactions with Claire. Denja/grrr sounds like a scary scum team though.
#1282 - I agree with as I got the same feeling and in real time but I am still weary.
#1317 - I don't get lynched and I didn't come up with a big ass claim
#1334 - I really want to see this list after I flip
#1622 - Posturing himself for a move to RE? Haven't really seen him scum reading her this raises an eyebrow
#1626 - Vote's RE (which actually helped to save me).
#1628 - Does he exude this much confidence as scum? Posts like this make me say town but I cannot be certain and would like others to weigh in.

Questions:
-Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that?
-If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post?
-Is him calling me scum legitimate?
-Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me?
-If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched?
-Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else?
-As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him?

I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now.
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@logic340 What do you think of Crossbell's vote switch from Claire to Rosie D1?


I still find it weird that so many people switched to rosie


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logic340 said:


Questions:
-Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that?
-If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post?
-Is him calling me scum legitimate?
-Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me?
-If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched?
-Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else?
-As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him?

I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now.


-yes
-prob not i never know why he town reads some people
-yes an no
-He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself???
-Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum
-something else
-no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case


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Shinichi-Kun said:
logic340 said:


Questions:
-Is grrr the type of scum player to white knight his NK victim like that?
-If he's not did he really feel that CP was town based on that post?
-Is him calling me scum legitimate?
-Why has his vote has moved from me at the end of both days? Yesterday basically saving me?
-If he was scum would he be calling for Denja to try and get him lynched?
-Are his interactions with Claire based on suspicion or something else?
-As scum would he request that the Doctor not protect him?

I need help in trying to figure this player out. I have not seen him as mafia and admittedly not sure what all this means. I would say he isn't that bold as mafia but I just don't know. Read stays at neutral for now.


-yes
-prob not i never know why he town reads some people
-yes an no
-He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself???
-Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum
-something else
-no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case

-Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight.
-Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right.
-I'm confused but I get what you mean
-This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue.
-I am feeling it....lol.
-Fair enough
-Yes I agree he is a strange case.
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So tl;dr:

1. I would be willing to support the CP wagon if needed, but it's not a lynch I really support. I get the feeling that he's a competent player, and I like to leave those players alive for later regardless of alignment.

2. I would be willing to lynch Rosie or Claire. I guess I would be willing to lynch grr, but he's an infinitely better vig shot than a lynch. If we lynch him and he flips town, then we get zero information. So he's not a lynch I super strongly support but I support vigging 100%.
1. You had CP as village in your read list just 6 posts earlier why would you be willing to support a wagon of one of your town reads?
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logic340 said:
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-yes
-prob not i never know why he town reads some people
-yes an no
-He's possibly town 2nd guessing himself???
-Yes he loves to antagonize people even as scum
-something else
-no he would only do that as town from my experience playing with him but grrr is a strange case

-Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight.
-Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right.
-I'm confused but I get what you mean
-This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue.
-I am feeling it....lol.
-Fair enough
-Yes I agree he is a strange case.


Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does.


Mar 27, 2017 10:14 AM

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@logic340 What do you think of Crossbell's vote switch from Claire to Rosie D1?


I still find it weird that so many people switched to rosie

Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built.
Claire voted grrr
followind voted grrr
CorruptedPurity voted grrr
Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote
I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity
Claire moves her vote back to CP
🐭 Vote Count 1.7 🐭
CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_
Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity
_Claire_ (2) Logic340, Crossbell
Logic340 (1) Grrr
RE1031 (1) Lam-B
PentaFlare (1) Sollux16
Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031

Not Voting
Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow

#720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP
#724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well.
#727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads.
#730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list
#734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post
#736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit)
#738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out.
#741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch"
#746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum"
#747 - willow switches to Rosie
#756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire.

Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely.

RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was.
Grapefruit is confirmed town
Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did.
Logic broke tie and voted a scum read
willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day
grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him.

Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
logic340 said:

-Well I was of the thinking that is too damn bold for scum but I haven't been able to shake the idea of truth in plain sight.
-Hm....I will have to look back at my other games with him but I think you are right.
-I'm confused but I get what you mean
-This is possible as well. D1 I could see him making sure there wasn't a tie by voting Rosie. It's such a bad place for him to vote I doubt he does it as scum but there is my issue.
-I am feeling it....lol.
-Fair enough
-Yes I agree he is a strange case.


Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does.
Based on this assessment I would say he is probably acting more like the latter here. Would you agree?
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Mar 27, 2017 10:38 AM

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logic340 said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Idk how to explain it but as town he says scummy things but 90% of the time everything he does he has a town mindset surrounding them. When hes scum i feel as tho hes less interactive and doesnt care what town does.
Based on this assessment I would say he is probably acting more like the latter here. Would you agree?


Possibly lol like i said grrr isa wildcard most of the time.


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logic340 said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


I still find it weird that so many people switched to rosie

Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built.
Claire voted grrr
followind voted grrr
CorruptedPurity voted grrr
Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote
I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity
Claire moves her vote back to CP
🐭 Vote Count 1.7 🐭
CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_
Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity
_Claire_ (2) Logic340, Crossbell
Logic340 (1) Grrr
RE1031 (1) Lam-B
PentaFlare (1) Sollux16
Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031

Not Voting
Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow

#720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP
#724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well.
#727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads.
#730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list
#734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post
#736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit)
#738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out.
#741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch"
#746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum"
#747 - willow switches to Rosie
#756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire.

Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely.

RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was.
Grapefruit is confirmed town
Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did.
Logic broke tie and voted a scum read
willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day
grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him.

Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete.


Way i see it is cross is potentially mafia that is hiding behind is huge town lean that many players are giving him. What do you tink @logic340?


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RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was.

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@logic340 can you tell me your reason why did you not want to make a truce with Grape and make an alliance?

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Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not.

Bad thing is that assuming 3 mafia this means we are in lylo. hopefully the doc will be useful. I already given my results so no need to protect me.

If there is a second vig. Please don't kill followind. There is 20% chance that he is town and shinichi is mafia. You can shoot logic though.

Given that the first vigilante was 2-shot I doubt there is only 2 mafia. so we will have only one chance to get the last one (which may or not be willow >.> ) .
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(I will need to ask followind one question tomorrow and I will be able to confirm his alignment. If I die then you can be sure he is mafia).
Mar 27, 2017 11:48 AM

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@logic340 can you tell me your reason why did you not want to make a truce with Grape and make an alliance?
How many times did I say I though it could be T/T only to have him shoot it down and say I was scum? It's not that I didn't want to make a truce I just didn't like any of the options he was giving me and vice versa.
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Mar 27, 2017 11:49 AM

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@logic340 can you tell me your reason why did you not want to make a truce with Grape and make an alliance?


Why? Killing one of the 2 was much easier than waiting for a cop or invest role to out themselves to give results.


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Shinichi-Kun said:
logic340 said:

Just before everyone switched to Rosie the grrr train built.
Claire voted grrr
followind voted grrr
CorruptedPurity voted grrr
Claire wants my reaction to Purity's vote
I question Claire as to how she feels about being on the same train as Purity
Claire moves her vote back to CP

#720 - After mulling Grape and CP amberwillow votes CP
#724 - Amber is willing to consider Claire as well.
#727 - Crossbell's read list Rosie and Claire are scum reads.
#730 - Crossbell doesn't like Rosie's not willing to lynch list
#734 - Crossbell's if CP is town Claire goes way up the scum charts post
#736 - amber answers why she is voting CP says that all three are options (CP, Claire, Grapefruit)
#738 - Grapefruit votes rosie for not liking top 3 town as Crossbell pointed out.
#741 - Crossbell switches to Rosie "I support this lynch"
#746 - Logic switches to Rosie "She's having an off game or scum"
#747 - willow switches to Rosie
#756 - grrr votes Rosie while asking if we can lynch Claire.

Based in the above Crossbell, willow, and grrr look most suspect. Crossbell put out the idea of Rosie's top town being off, Grape used that as his reason to vote and Crossbell followed. I saw a tie between CP and Rosie (scum lean) and broke it by voting my scum lean. willow saw a tie and voted Rosie though her scum read was CP. grrr came through and put the 6th vote on Rosie making it so a tie would be very unlikely.

RE's vote had been there for so long I need to go see what the reasoning was.
Grapefruit is confirmed town
Crossbell gave reason to move vote but didn't until after Grapefruit did.
Logic broke tie and voted a scum read
willow tried to break tie voted someone she had not talked about voting all day
grrr put the final vote on which is a place I don't expect scum to be as it's suspicious and his play wont absolve him.

Based on this I would say that willow and cross are the most suspicious on Rosie train. Funny how they were arguing about Cross's Rosie train suspect list after the flip. Maybe trying to keep our minds off the scummy moves they made at the EoD? Just a thought nothing concrete.


Way i see it is cross is potentially mafia that is hiding behind is huge town lean that many players are giving him. What do you tink @logic340?
I definitely think it's quite possible. He isn't out front leading like I am used to when he is town. And like I said other than being heavily involved in both votes EoD his catchup posts stand out more than anything else to me.
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Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not.

Bad thing is that assuming 3 mafia this means we are in lylo. hopefully the doc will be useful. I already given my results so no need to protect me.

If there is a second vig. Please don't kill followind. There is 20% chance that he is town and shinichi is mafia. You can shoot logic though.

Given that the first vigilante was 2-shot I doubt there is only 2 mafia. so we will have only one chance to get the last one (which may or not be willow >.> ) .

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Why? Killing one of the 2 was much easier than waiting for a cop or invest role to out themselves to give results.
Well? what did you even find? Personally, this game became a mess just by dwelling on those 2. So I am going to PoE right now. There is nothing much to talk about and there are pending inactive waiting for modkill too.

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