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Mar 21, 2017 10:05 AM

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logic340 said:
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I'll probably spend my time paying attention in class.

I had a reason for asking Crossbell, the rest of this discussion is just a really nice bonus.
1. I mean what would you be doing in regards to this game.....
2. Fair enough we'll see where this leads us.

1. I know, but Crossbell was online so I figured I didn't have long to wait for my answer. :P
2. Probably nowhere fast, but okay
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Mar 21, 2017 10:15 AM

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PentaFlare said:
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1. I mean what would you be doing in regards to this game.....
2. Fair enough we'll see where this leads us.

1. I know, but Crossbell was online so I figured I didn't have long to wait for my answer. :P
2. Probably nowhere fast, but okay
2. Are you assuming I meant something bad when I sais "we'll see where this leads"? Your no where fast response seems to imply that you did. This could lead to me town reading you so I don't get the "nowhere fast" line or why you would be thinking negatively about it? Can you clarify this for me please?
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logic340 said:
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1. I know, but Crossbell was online so I figured I didn't have long to wait for my answer. :P
2. Probably nowhere fast, but okay
2. Are you assuming I meant something bad when I sais "we'll see where this leads"? Your no where fast response seems to imply that you did. This could lead to me town reading you so I don't get the "nowhere fast" line or why you would be thinking negatively about it? Can you clarify this for me please?

I didn't find that your comment was negative, I just mostly asked the question for a reference of my own that I'll be using later and I didn't want anyone expecting me to detail my thoughts immediately after the question was answered. You aren't breathing down my neck right now, but others are and I want to work at my pace.
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Mar 21, 2017 10:33 AM

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RE said:
Isn't my current opinion on Crossbell based on how suspicious he is? Right now, I have no town reads on anyone. He's just neutral, I guess.
Give me something better than that. I've posted a fair amount so far. What do you think of my posts?

I don't necessarily know if CP's "I'm dying for someone to talk to" is a forced act designed to look townie or a genuine statement. CP, why are you trying to invite suspicion upon Grape without committing your vote to him?
Mar 21, 2017 10:36 AM

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Clairy, dear, haven't seen you much today. So how does CP look to you now?
Also, I didn't catch what exactly u meant here.
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I feel a counter-train against Logic/Grape's train.

It gives an alert to my brain now.
Is it that u think there should be another train besides this?
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Mar 21, 2017 10:40 AM

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Crossbell said:
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Isn't my current opinion on Crossbell based on how suspicious he is? Right now, I have no town reads on anyone. He's just neutral, I guess.
Give me something better than that. I've posted a fair amount so far. What do you think of my posts?

I don't necessarily know if CP's "I'm dying for someone to talk to" is a forced act designed to look townie or a genuine statement. CP, why are you trying to invite suspicion upon Grape without committing your vote to him?
Good point. and how about u? Are u thinking to keep your vote on logic?
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Mar 21, 2017 10:44 AM

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Want to finish catching up and then I'll reread some people and place my vote.
Mar 21, 2017 11:02 AM

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🐭 Vote Count 1.3 🐭
Logic340 (3) Crossbell, _Claire_, Grrr
Grapefruit21 (2) logic340, PentaFlare
RE1031 (2) amberwillow, Lam-B
followind (1) Sollux16
amberwillow (1) RE1031
CorruptedPurity (1) Grapefruit21

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CorruptedPurity, followind, Oyasumi_Rosie

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Mar 21, 2017 11:08 AM

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lol, Soren freaked me out here when I saw this post, I thought he was a player and I didn't notice him, like HOW ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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PentaFlare said:
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I like this. Everyone has been answering Penta's question but he never answered my question on what are his reads or what information he got out of the claim. May want to push him more on that.

So? My goal wasn't to have everyone answer my question, so I don't see how that is relevant here, or what the point you are trying to make at all is.

Woah, what the heck? You ask for information (on a completely random role might I add) and then you still aren't answering peoples questions for you to give them information. What even compelled you to ask questions about a day cop if you weren't claiming? I, along with everyone else I'm sure, really need this clarified.

On a different note, I'm taking off my vote on followind. That was just RVS and now I have suspicions against other people that aren't them, so I don't see the need in keeping it in place. unvote
Mar 21, 2017 11:22 AM

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@Sollux16 So after all this backreading, what more has cought your eye?
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Mar 21, 2017 11:25 AM

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amberwillow said:
lol, Soren freaked me out here when I saw this post, I thought he was a player and I didn't notice him, like HOW ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Oh my gooood, I am glad that I wasn't the only one. I saw his icon and was like "what is this anime ass cat doing here???" XD

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Ok, I'm finally completely caught up (but now I have to get ready for work and I'm gonna be behind again ;n;)

Overall, this is what I've got so far. I don't really like the way Grapefruit was jumping around with their votes, but that's not my biggest issue right now because that could very easily be him just trying to make conversation and get reactions out of people.
What has caught my eye the most however is Penta. ( @amberwillow ) I don't understand why they are holding out on us with their thoughts. In my opinion, the only thing that is going to do is throw town for a loop. I haven't played many games of mafia yet, but people have endlessly told me "share your thoughts, everything helps", and I believe them. Holding out on us isn't going to help. Not to mention, I feel like the role being questioned was too random. From what I've read, people haven't really seen a "day cop" before, so where did that come from?
It may seem wrong for me to vote against someone who seems to have claimed a power town role (even though they said they haven't claimed. That honestly makes me more suspicious.) but something isn't setting right with me here. vote: PentaFlare
@PentaFlare I would really appreciate it if you would clear some things up for us.
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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
amberwillow said:
lol, Soren freaked me out here when I saw this post, I thought he was a player and I didn't notice him, like HOW ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Oh my gooood, I am glad that I wasn't the only one. I saw his icon and was like "what is this anime ass cat doing here???" XD

At first, I honestly thought Soren was playing XD (I was actually kind of sad when I found out he was moderator and not a player, lol. I was looking forward to playing another game with him.)
Mar 21, 2017 11:32 AM

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I'd like to give longer answers but I'm kinda busy right now.
@Crossbell I'll read your posts more closely when I get back.
@amberwillow If I was lying about my reasoning, or as you say "think of some excuse," then why would I try to justify my RVS vote (as CorruptedPurity put it) instead of just saying it was a RVS vote? Other than me explaining why I voted for Crossbell instead of Claire, do you have any other indications that I'd be mafia? Because if not, you're picking on something irrelevant.
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Mar 21, 2017 11:55 AM

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RE1031 said:
I'd like to give longer answers but I'm kinda busy right now.
@Crossbell I'll read your posts more closely when I get back.
@amberwillow If I was lying about my reasoning, or as you say "think of some excuse," then why would I try to justify my RVS vote (as CorruptedPurity put it) instead of just saying it was a RVS vote? Other than me explaining why I voted for Crossbell instead of Claire, do you have any other indications that I'd be mafia? Because if not, you're picking on something irrelevant.
Maybe that didn't cross your mind to do so at that time, because it didn't look like a big deal.
That might be so, but you can never know where one might slip. I am looking forward to see your replies when you are back.

Well at first I thought that by "I will let the sinners dog lovers slide for now...." u meant logic more, so it appeared strage, because he was already voted and that might have been the reason why u didn't vote him. Can't know if u said intentionally that u wanted to vote Claire. I'll leave it alone, as it would be word against word without any certainity here.

That contradictional post from before I still find weird.

Then, I don't in particular like the post where u vote me, looked to me like kinda running away, but that might be due to a felt pressure, so it's kinda explainable, I guess, but I am not sure how to indicate that.

Some fresh eyes on you would help. As of now, your alignment is not certain to me, but u are under my radar indeed.
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Mar 21, 2017 12:04 PM

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Unvote I have a few hours of work left after that I will reread and cast a proper vote.
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Mar 21, 2017 12:13 PM

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I will catch up tomorrow morning (after 9 hours. So fari like my vote and will stick to it
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grrr said:
I will catch up tomorrow morning (after 9 hours. So fari like my vote and will stick to it
I'm sure that you do.....Hope to hear you thoughts tomorrow.
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amberwillow said:
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I'd like to give longer answers but I'm kinda busy right now.
@Crossbell I'll read your posts more closely when I get back.
@amberwillow If I was lying about my reasoning, or as you say "think of some excuse," then why would I try to justify my RVS vote (as CorruptedPurity put it) instead of just saying it was a RVS vote? Other than me explaining why I voted for Crossbell instead of Claire, do you have any other indications that I'd be mafia? Because if not, you're picking on something irrelevant.
Maybe that didn't cross your mind to do so at that time, because it didn't look like a big deal.
That might be so, but you can never know where one might slip. I am looking forward to see your replies when you are back.

Sorta back (still in lecture heh).

Well at first I thought that by "I will let the sinners dog lovers slide for now...." u meant logic more, so it appeared strage, because he was already voted and that might have been the reason why u didn't vote him. Can't know if u said intentionally that u wanted to vote Claire. I'll leave it alone, as it would be word against word without any certainity here.

I said here that I was going to vote Claire (or more accurately I found someone to vote Day 1). Logic was fair game as well, but when the game actually started, I decided to not vote based on personal preference in animals.

That contradictional post from before I still find weird.

Still don't know what the contradiction is.

Then, I don't in particular like the post where u vote me, looked to me like kinda running away, but that might be due to a felt pressure, so it's kinda explainable, I guess, but I am not sure how to indicate that.

Some fresh eyes on you would help. As of now, your alignment is not certain to me, but u are under my radar indeed.

How would fresh eyes help? I honestly feel you're tunneling on me with minimal if not nonexistent evidence.
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Crossbell said:
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The way you jump around your votes is definitely a different kind of gameplay. Still not exactly pro-town, but a bit too obvious. So while it's tempting to vote for you, I'm far more inclined to believe that people joining your wagon are more likely to be mafia.
Then who is the scum on the wagon, then? Logic, Rosie, or Penta?

Regarding this, I was talking about the wagon on me. And I was going for amberwillow, because Lamby was less active.
Also going to be wary of people who vote for Grape. Don't know his scum game so kind of making a gamble by treating him as town.. But he's an easy lynch target.
And you are still neutral to me. You haven't made any heavy/specific accusations yet.
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So quoteless phone catch up post.

@Crossbell ahh you're making me blush. So at the time of posting you didn't have a strong lean on any of us since you didn't narrow down further. Is that correct?

@PentaFlare when you finally deign to share with us do you find people jumping all over themselves to answer your question for cross alignment indicative.

@logic340 it was absurd because it was clearly a hypothetical. Plus how quickly it became about me being an obvious choice because I'm a likely lynch for today.
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RE1031 said:

I said here that I was going to vote Claire (or more accurately I found someone to vote Day 1). Logic was fair game as well, but when the game actually started, I decided to not vote based on personal preference in animals.

That contradictional post from before I still find weird.

Still don't know what the contradiction is.

Then, I don't in particular like the post where u vote me, looked to me like kinda running away, but that might be due to a felt pressure, so it's kinda explainable, I guess, but I am not sure how to indicate that.

Some fresh eyes on you would help. As of now, your alignment is not certain to me, but u are under my radar indeed.

How would fresh eyes help? I honestly feel you're tunneling on me with minimal if not nonexistent evidence.
Ohh, pre-game, ok, I see now.

The part where u said that u like to have a reason but didn't saod one when u voted. I know that u said that u had a reason, but all I know is what is written, not in your mind.

That's exactly why fresh eyes are needed lel, cuz when one starts looking only for one side of story, it's hard to stop and see from a different point of view too.
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So? My goal wasn't to have everyone answer my question, so I don't see how that is relevant here, or what the point you are trying to make at all is.

Woah, what the heck? You ask for information (on a completely random role might I add) and then you still aren't answering peoples questions for you to give them information. What even compelled you to ask questions about a day cop if you weren't claiming? I, along with everyone else I'm sure, really need this clarified.

On a different note, I'm taking off my vote on followind. That was just RVS and now I have suspicions against other people that aren't them, so I don't see the need in keeping it in place. unvote

What's wrong with asking a hypothetical question? I know how to play cop, my goal wasn't to learn how to play cop, it was to see how the question would be answered. That's it.
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Mar 21, 2017 1:00 PM

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Sollux16 said:
Ok, I'm finally completely caught up (but now I have to get ready for work and I'm gonna be behind again ;n;)

Overall, this is what I've got so far. I don't really like the way Grapefruit was jumping around with their votes, but that's not my biggest issue right now because that could very easily be him just trying to make conversation and get reactions out of people.
What has caught my eye the most however is Penta. ( @amberwillow ) I don't understand why they are holding out on us with their thoughts. In my opinion, the only thing that is going to do is throw town for a loop. I haven't played many games of mafia yet, but people have endlessly told me "share your thoughts, everything helps", and I believe them. Holding out on us isn't going to help. Not to mention, I feel like the role being questioned was too random. From what I've read, people haven't really seen a "day cop" before, so where did that come from?
It may seem wrong for me to vote against someone who seems to have claimed a power town role (even though they said they haven't claimed. That honestly makes me more suspicious.) but something isn't setting right with me here. vote: PentaFlare
@PentaFlare I would really appreciate it if you would clear some things up for us.

You are missing the point. The question wasn't written to be answered by everyone and was hypothetical. I know that Crossbell knows what a day cop is, so I wasn't worried about using that in my scenario. I never said I was a day cop, others are just saying that I claimed that when I didn't. It was a pretend scenario.
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amberwillow said:
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I said here that I was going to vote Claire (or more accurately I found someone to vote Day 1). Logic was fair game as well, but when the game actually started, I decided to not vote based on personal preference in animals.


Still don't know what the contradiction is.


How would fresh eyes help? I honestly feel you're tunneling on me with minimal if not nonexistent evidence.
Ohh, pre-game, ok, I see now.

The part where u said that u like to have a reason but didn't saod one when u voted. I know that u said that u had a reason, but all I know is what is written, not in your mind.

That's exactly why fresh eyes are needed lel, cuz when one starts looking only for one side of story, it's hard to stop and see from a different point of view too.

Okay.. Can't agree with it but I'll let it go.
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Grapefruit21 said:
So quoteless phone catch up post.

@Crossbell ahh you're making me blush. So at the time of posting you didn't have a strong lean on any of us since you didn't narrow down further. Is that correct?

@PentaFlare when you finally deign to share with us do you find people jumping all over themselves to answer your question for cross alignment indicative.

@logic340 it was absurd because it was clearly a hypothetical. Plus how quickly it became about me being an obvious choice because I'm a likely lynch for today.

To do that I would have to provide an opinion on other players and that just isn't something I feel like doing right now.
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PentaFlare said:
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Ok, I'm finally completely caught up (but now I have to get ready for work and I'm gonna be behind again ;n;)

Overall, this is what I've got so far. I don't really like the way Grapefruit was jumping around with their votes, but that's not my biggest issue right now because that could very easily be him just trying to make conversation and get reactions out of people.
What has caught my eye the most however is Penta. ( @amberwillow ) I don't understand why they are holding out on us with their thoughts. In my opinion, the only thing that is going to do is throw town for a loop. I haven't played many games of mafia yet, but people have endlessly told me "share your thoughts, everything helps", and I believe them. Holding out on us isn't going to help. Not to mention, I feel like the role being questioned was too random. From what I've read, people haven't really seen a "day cop" before, so where did that come from?
It may seem wrong for me to vote against someone who seems to have claimed a power town role (even though they said they haven't claimed. That honestly makes me more suspicious.) but something isn't setting right with me here. vote: PentaFlare
@PentaFlare I would really appreciate it if you would clear some things up for us.

You are missing the point. The question wasn't written to be answered by everyone and was hypothetical. I know that Crossbell knows what a day cop is, so I wasn't worried about using that in my scenario. I never said I was a day cop, others are just saying that I claimed that when I didn't. It was a pretend scenario.
To be fair, Penta, u worded it like u are a day cop and some people failed to see that you are still talking about the hypothetical situation because what u wrote wasn't clear x)
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PentaFlare said:
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So quoteless phone catch up post.

@Crossbell ahh you're making me blush. So at the time of posting you didn't have a strong lean on any of us since you didn't narrow down further. Is that correct?

@PentaFlare when you finally deign to share with us do you find people jumping all over themselves to answer your question for cross alignment indicative.

@logic340 it was absurd because it was clearly a hypothetical. Plus how quickly it became about me being an obvious choice because I'm a likely lynch for today.

To do that I would have to provide an opinion on other players and that just isn't something I feel like doing right now.

Will you feel like doing it later? :3
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amberwillow said:
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You are missing the point. The question wasn't written to be answered by everyone and was hypothetical. I know that Crossbell knows what a day cop is, so I wasn't worried about using that in my scenario. I never said I was a day cop, others are just saying that I claimed that when I didn't. It was a pretend scenario.
To be fair, Penta, u worded it like u are a day cop and some people failed to see that you are still talking about the hypothetical situation because what u wrote wasn't clear x)

I was quoting posts about my hypothetical situation. You can't take posts out of context because that changes the meaning.
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Okay.. Can't agree with it but I'll let it go.
Same x)
Are you going to add anything more about Cross? Besides that, at this moment I don't really have anything else against you.
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RE1031 said:
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To do that I would have to provide an opinion on other players and that just isn't something I feel like doing right now.

Will you feel like doing it later? :3

Possibly, how about at the end of Day 7?
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PentaFlare said:
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To be fair, Penta, u worded it like u are a day cop and some people failed to see that you are still talking about the hypothetical situation because what u wrote wasn't clear x)

I was quoting posts about my hypothetical situation. You can't take posts out of context because that changes the meaning.
True.
Are u not up to talking only about people from this hypo-story or in general? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on some people
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amberwillow said:
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Okay.. Can't agree with it but I'll let it go.
Same x)
Are you going to add anything more about Cross? Besides that, at this moment I don't really have anything else against you.

Cross has not been on the strong offensive or strong defensive, so I don't really read anything off of him now. Like I said, my initial reason for suspecting is no longer valid (since more people started voting logic for similar reasons). So I'm going to need more to go on, but at the moment, I'm just as suspicious of him as the next player.

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Will you feel like doing it later? :3

Possibly, how about at the end of Day 7?

Assuming you'll live that long? Mafia much? :D
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amberwillow said:
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I was quoting posts about my hypothetical situation. You can't take posts out of context because that changes the meaning.
True.
Are u not up to talking only about people from this hypo-story or in general? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on some people

Hmm. I think the only person I'm willing to express an opinion on is grrr. grrr seems like an extraordinarily interesting player to discuss. Nobody has enlightened me more about this game than grrr.
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Same x)
Are you going to add anything more about Cross? Besides that, at this moment I don't really have anything else against you.

Cross has not been on the strong offensive or strong defensive, so I don't really read anything off of him now. Like I said, my initial reason for suspecting is no longer valid (since more people started voting logic for similar reasons). So I'm going to need more to go on, but at the moment, I'm just as suspicious of him as the next player.

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Possibly, how about at the end of Day 7?

Assuming you'll live that long? Mafia much? :D

Given the size of this game, Day 7 will only happen if there are multiple no lynches or missed nightkills.
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very well unvote

I kinda feel like we had hitted a wall. Not sure if the current situation is leading us to a good direction.

@_Claire_ I forgot if I asked, are u planning to keep your vote on logic too?
And what about those who are not voting? We are getting to the second part of the day, so should think about it @CorruptedPurity , @followind , @Oyasumi_Rosie
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PentaFlare said:
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True.
Are u not up to talking only about people from this hypo-story or in general? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on some people

Hmm. I think the only person I'm willing to express an opinion on is grrr. grrr seems like an extraordinarily interesting player to discuss. Nobody has enlightened me more about this game than grrr.
That is.. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious :)
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PentaFlare said:
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True.
Are u not up to talking only about people from this hypo-story or in general? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on some people

Hmm. I think the only person I'm willing to express an opinion on is grrr. grrr seems like an extraordinarily interesting player to discuss. Nobody has enlightened me more about this game than grrr.

I am bewildered. Really, I have yet to encounter this kind of gameplay O.o
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As for my meta check any of my other games, I come out guns blazing on D1 unless life gets in the way. Harhui, LQ, and FT are all good examples.

Snip
As for your meta, I usually don't like meta plays, but I made an exception because of all the games I played with you, this is the only one that you came out guns blazing day 1. Point noted, I don't play that many games with you but still... can't ignore the fact that you had a recent meta shift.

This is the post I was referring to about wilfully ignoring a meta correction to keep pushing a narrative. I tell you this is the norm for me and you've witnessed the exception and give you other games as evidence and you insist that I have changed this game. You seem to really want to get me lynched and aren't willing to check and see if the basis for the read is correct. Even if you don't want to check the other games there are people here who you could ask to verify if it is unusual for me to act like this D1.
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@PentaFlare that's why I couched it with "when you deign to share your opinion" I'm patient. I can wait. I just think that particular question will be relevant down the line and want to hear from you on it at some point.
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@Grapefruit21 Sorry if u already said somewhere, but what are your main suspects?
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Grapefruit21 said:
@PentaFlare that's why I couched it with "when you deign to share your opinion" I'm patient. I can wait. I just think that particular question will be relevant down the line and want to hear from you on it at some point.

So let me ask this, what was the point of your warning on page 1? You said that you wanted everyone to express opinions on the main trains.

I've been sitting here refusing to give opinions about any player, possibly not until after I've been killed off. Obviously that's not productive. I thought I would have been smitten with divine wrath by now. Where's the pressure you said you were going to exert? I feel like I could just coast the whole game with no reads at this rate.
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Mar 21, 2017 2:00 PM

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PentaFlare said:
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@PentaFlare that's why I couched it with "when you deign to share your opinion" I'm patient. I can wait. I just think that particular question will be relevant down the line and want to hear from you on it at some point.

So let me ask this, what was the point of your warning on page 1? You said that you wanted everyone to express opinions on the main trains.

I've been sitting here refusing to give opinions about any player, possibly not until after I've been killed off. Obviously that's not productive. I thought I would have been smitten with divine wrath by now. Where's the pressure you said you were going to exert? I feel like I could just coast the whole game with no reads at this rate.

While you aren't sharing reads you are driving content on the game. That is productive. My choice is also meta based. I know you to some extent and I know you are not a player who will happily go into a phase change without at least 1 wagon formed. I was giving you some space to play whatever game you were playing because you have earned that respect and you were clearly building to something.

I just didn't realize I was the subject of your ploy.

@amberwillow Right now my main suspect is CorruptedPurity, followed by Rosie, grrr, RE, and followind in no particular order.
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So I scrolled through the thread ctrl+f'ing your name, and wow, u really didn't add much to the game and you know it @Oyasumi_Rosie
Can you name 4 people, who u would be willing to trust in this game? And why?
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Grapefruit21 said:
PentaFlare said:

So let me ask this, what was the point of your warning on page 1? You said that you wanted everyone to express opinions on the main trains.

I've been sitting here refusing to give opinions about any player, possibly not until after I've been killed off. Obviously that's not productive. I thought I would have been smitten with divine wrath by now. Where's the pressure you said you were going to exert? I feel like I could just coast the whole game with no reads at this rate.

While you aren't sharing reads you are driving content on the game. That is productive. My choice is also meta based. I know you to some extent and I know you are not a player who will happily go into a phase change without at least 1 wagon formed. I was giving you some space to play whatever game you were playing because you have earned that respect and you were clearly building to something.

I just didn't realize I was the subject of your ploy.

@amberwillow Right now my main suspect is CorruptedPurity, followed by Rosie, grrr, RE, and followind in no particular order.

Darn, I was kind of worried that would happen. I do weird things too often that it doesn't phase anyone anymore. :(
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PentaFlare said:
Grapefruit21 said:

While you aren't sharing reads you are driving content on the game. That is productive. My choice is also meta based. I know you to some extent and I know you are not a player who will happily go into a phase change without at least 1 wagon formed. I was giving you some space to play whatever game you were playing because you have earned that respect and you were clearly building to something.

I just didn't realize I was the subject of your ploy.

@amberwillow Right now my main suspect is CorruptedPurity, followed by Rosie, grrr, RE, and followind in no particular order.

Darn, I was kind of worried that would happen. I do weird things too often that it doesn't phase anyone anymore. :(

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@amberwillow Right now my main suspect is CorruptedPurity, followed by Rosie, grrr, RE, and followind in no particular order.
I understand from before why there is CP and RE, and I can kinda guess why Rosey. But what from followind's posts was susp? Is it because he was agreeing with CP?
Also, what do u think about followind and Rosei's interaction?
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Well, since I didn't get anything out of that attempt to not comment on any of the main wagons, time to do a dump from my notes. Please don't just skip over this because it is a wall or just nod along and move on. I want to know what others think about what I'm bringing up.

My thoughts regarding CorruptedPurity:

Corrupted is probably mafia. Their actions so far this phase give the impression of a mafia player trying to appear like a productive townie instead of genuine scumhunting.

The first post which seems scummy is #51 where they comment on Grapefruit's ultimatum. Paraphrased, the post is "This is a good point, but this isn't normal grapefruit". This emphasis is placed on the second half, being that this isn't normal grapefruit. This kind of post does two things: creates doubt about grapefruit and suggests a scumlean based on meta. However, the post includes only facts and skips the throught process. There isn't a "this is unusual for grape and since I've only seen them as town this different behavious makes me think they are a different alignment". That would be a scumlean, however small (considering this is only the top of the second page). Instead, therefore, the scumlean is not the main intent of this post, so it must be the doubt. Creating doubt about other players so early is scummy because town only cast doubt on decently developed scumreads.

In #110, Corrupted talks about the grapefruit post again and makes it even more clear that the goal is not the scumlean because they suggest both a mafia motive behind the change and a town motive behind the change. Possibility of either = doubt.

A little further down in #117 they answer my day cop question addressed to Crossbell. They obviously know I'm asking a hypothetical question because they list me as one of the options. Therefore, I can only see one reason for answering the question. They are seizing the opportunity to contribute to just about anything because contribution seems townlike. It is true that town can also try to look like town because getting lynched as town is bad but this is much more often a mafia action because mafia can't rely on genuine towniness. However, the extra thing that tips it further into being a mafia motivated action is that another town member would also be interested in how Cross would respond. Discussing the topic before Cross can answer would likely make Cross's answer less important because of the amount that's been discussed already. (luckily Cross reads and answers in order). It is likely that Corrupted simply wasn't interested in finding out Cross's alignment which a town member wouldn't be. These two things combined make answering the question more mafia-like than townie.

#150 also explicitly states there is no scumread on grapefruit. The shade being cast is just for the sake of casting shade.

It is true that #155 is expressing a town mindset. Taking a close look at voters who build large trains is important. However, this isn't a very strong townlean. The three scumleans mentioned so far are adding up to a stronger swing that way.

I'm not going to cite much of the discussion of cop checks and order of priority. It is nice that they are expressing suspicions, but overall I find it non-alignment indicative.

The only other posts are trying to pry information out of me but that is also non-alignment indicative because I was being so antitown that I was a super easy target to pressure no matter what the alignment of the person doing the pressuring was.

That's all for now folks!
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And here is me dumping my vote in a separate post so it doesn't get lost in all the bold text I put in the wall. (Sorry for that mods!)

Vote: CorruptedPurity
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