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Jan 2, 2017 2:20 PM

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Kit said:
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Posts like this are new town, I just didn't want to say it earlier because I like seeing new-players stand up for themselves and not get the luxury of being thrown in the town pile.
Care to explain why the post is new-town?

MMmmm, you can feel it. Cooperation, effort, thinking for one's self, confidence, and the slightest inclination to please and make an impression on people. You can feel it, it's all there.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:21 PM

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PentaFlare said:
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Unvote. Vote: Bursama

This hammers it.

Wait, did you just play me so the train could be pushed over?


Yes. I'm sorry Penta.
Jan 2, 2017 2:21 PM

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Wait, did I just let myself be played into hammering a lynch???
Despite my scumread on bursama, this doesn't sit well with me.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:21 PM

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Sonata said:
Unvote. Vote: Bursama

This hammers it.

SCUM
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Jan 2, 2017 2:23 PM

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Mmmm, or just dumb!town?
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Jan 2, 2017 2:23 PM

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Still conflicted on Bursama. Probably should've taken full time.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:24 PM

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LucianRoy said:
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Unvote. Vote: Bursama

This hammers it.

SCUM


Wait until we see how the lynch turns out at least before you start making accusations. If he is scum, you'll thank me later. If he is not, it isn't like we were going to get anywhere by interrogating him anyway and there were no signs of changing votes elsewhere either (which is what Soren wanted), if he actually is mafia Soren should be an obvious choice for next day phase.

If he's actually town, well, my mistake, but he didn't do anything to defend himself either so the outcome was gonna be the same either way.

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Jan 2, 2017 2:26 PM

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Soren said:
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I'm responding to multiple people as I catch up. I had a question for Bursama, so I asked it

I'm feeling Lucian because he seems to contradict himself often. But I'm not sure.
ive got some eerie suspicions of lucian too but havent voiced them yet cause its nothing concrete

Loving every moment of how this happened right after I brought up Kit and Soren on the 40 train.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:27 PM

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PentaFlare said:
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Oh huh that could make sense, more than Jester anyway. You think that kind of role could be in basic? I always forget about roles I've never encountered before. Why would he claim vanilla, then?

Claiming vanilla as scum vengeful makes sense, claiming vanilla as town vengeful doesn't seem like the best idea, but I can see why someone might try that.


You can claim VT as town vengeful in order to try coax mafia hammering you.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:27 PM

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Strrrruccckkk a nerve on that one did I?
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Jan 2, 2017 2:28 PM

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Bursama said:
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Claiming vanilla as scum vengeful makes sense, claiming vanilla as town vengeful doesn't seem like the best idea, but I can see why someone might try that.


You can claim VT as town vengeful in order to try coax mafia hammering you.

Yeah. That's what I meant when I said I can see why someone might try that. Are you saying you are town vengeful?

Edit: pronouns
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Jan 2, 2017 2:29 PM

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Please don't be town vengeful.
Jan 2, 2017 2:33 PM

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LucianRoy said:
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ive got some eerie suspicions of lucian too but havent voiced them yet cause its nothing concrete

Loving every moment of how this happened right after I brought up Kit and Soren on the 40 train.
I'm not even caught up with page 19 so I don't know what you said. If you look at my previous posts you can see I mentioned you multiple times. Dunno about Soren tho.










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Jan 2, 2017 2:34 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Still conflicted on Bursama. Probably should've taken full time.
I would have rather taken the entire day, but the penta/sonata switch thing happened too fast










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Jan 2, 2017 2:35 PM

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🌟 Day 2 Final Vote Count 🌟


Bursama (7): Gruffin, logic340, Grapefruit21, Kit, Bursama, PentaFlare, Sonata
Kit (1): Oyasumi_Rosie
LucianRoy (1): Soren

Not Voting (4): Phraze, aa-dono, Lord_Sithis, LucianRoy

Modnote: That's a lynch, hold tight for the flip.
Jan 2, 2017 2:35 PM

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I feel so blind and betrayed at the same time. I was so obviously being manipulated but I didn't even notice.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:36 PM

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Kit said:
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Still conflicted on Bursama. Probably should've taken full time.
I would have rather taken the entire day, but the penta/sonata switch thing happened too fast
I would have too. I'm not comfortable with this but I am hoping for the best.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:36 PM

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Sonata said:
Please don't be town vengeful.


Afraid?
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Jan 2, 2017 2:38 PM

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PentaFlare said:
I feel so blind and betrayed at the same time. I was so obviously being manipulated but I didn't even notice.

GIT GUD
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Jan 2, 2017 2:38 PM

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Bursama said:
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Please don't be town vengeful.


Afraid?

Ooooofff this is gonna b good
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Jan 2, 2017 2:40 PM

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Bursama said:
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Please don't be town vengeful.


Afraid?


Do you look like I'm afraid after what I've done? I'll just be disappointed that I've let down the town and tricked Penta for naught.
Jan 2, 2017 2:43 PM

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Sonata said:
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Afraid?


Do you look like I'm afraid after what I've done? I'll just be disappointed that I've let down the town and tricked Penta for naught.


Anything else you want to say?
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Jan 2, 2017 2:44 PM

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Bursama said:
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Do you look like I'm afraid after what I've done? I'll just be disappointed that I've let down the town and tricked Penta for naught.


Anything else you want to say?


Yeah. I want to go to sleep.
Jan 2, 2017 2:47 PM

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Sonata said:
Bursama said:


Anything else you want to say?


Yeah. I want to go to sleep.


I mean, anything else you want to say before Togs finished the flavour and there'll be blood and guts everywhere?
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Jan 2, 2017 2:49 PM

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Bursama said:
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Yeah. I want to go to sleep.


I mean, anything else you want to say before Togs finished the flavour and there'll be blood and guts everywhere?


Nah, not really.
Jan 2, 2017 2:51 PM

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~ 🌟 👽 🕒 💡🌟 ~

Haruhi was always known for being bull headed and spontaneous. She would get crazy ideas suddenly then never let them go, like a rabid squirrel hoarding it’s precious acorns. It was certainly an exciting quirk, thought Kyon, but immensely tiring at the same time. Actually, why was it that he was the one always getting tired ? Don’t the laws of universal Karma state that Haruhi should be suffering from the negative effects of her own actions ? Kyon furrowed his brow. Just thinking about the unfairness all around him made his head hurt a little.

The truth was though, that deep down, Kyon may have had some affection for this particular trait of Haruhi’s. He would never admit it openly, but perhaps he wished himself that he could openly and brazenly get done whatever he set his mind to, without having to deal with the metaphorical red tape that was his cynical demeanor. It could even be the case that in time, he would slowly open himself up, and learn to cherish this aspect of spontaneity that he had previously loathed.

He never imagined though, that one Haruhi’s boneheaded ideas would turn out so... deadly.

Bursama has been lynched. He was:


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Jan 2, 2017 2:52 PM

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Damn, that would've been the sickest play ever if he was vengeful and hit scum.

Bursama would've been a legit legend.
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Jan 2, 2017 2:54 PM

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Sorry town.
Jan 2, 2017 2:55 PM

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Also, the flavor is genius.
Jan 2, 2017 2:56 PM

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Sonata said:
Sorry town.

Vote:Sonata

Guess who predicted this?

MEEEEEEEEEEE

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@LucianRoy I can't answer those on the fly, they are conclusions I reached last night by linking posts from day 1 to each other, and I wasn't gonna use my practice time before it's too dark to make noise doing so. I will do that now, but read my other posts first, I'm pretty sure I linked one post (#172 I think it was) that I found very important. Besides, I don't see anybody else questioning me about it so why would I make all that work to back up my conjecture if a Bursama lynch is on the way and that would make my job a lot easier.

Because you're using pre-associatives and seem to be assuming Bursama as scum to fit in with your scumread on Soren, (or vice-versa), and that's a gap in your logic.
>Bursama flips town
>You go back to the drawing board and call it a mistake.
>You end up never having to give a real read on Bursama

To sum it up, I don't need to explain my votes or reads to you in particular

feelsbadman
so I'd rather not give away too much information now that the only reason why I'd have to do so is to stop trying to put me in a bad light :/

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Jan 2, 2017 3:02 PM

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sigh
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I walk away and come back to this.....
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Jan 2, 2017 3:23 PM

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Sonata said:
Sorry town.

Your signature is a good representation of how I feel right now. Sad, betrayed, and empty.
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Jan 2, 2017 3:42 PM

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What the...

What happened while I was gone?
Jan 2, 2017 3:46 PM

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Guys, we were supposed to use our time to look at other people. :\
Jan 2, 2017 3:47 PM

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Dang.... I really want to post about who we should vote for instead but ran out of time.... this sucks hard

Jan 2, 2017 3:48 PM

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I feel cheated we just lost 20 hours of discussion time.
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Jan 2, 2017 4:26 PM

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Gruffin said:
Guys, we were supposed to use our time to look at other people. :\
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Dang.... I really want to post about who we should vote for instead but ran out of time.... this sucks hard
logic340 said:
I feel cheated we just lost 20 hours of discussion time.
I'm just as disappointed as the rest of you that the day was cut short, but try to channel that energy you had for today into our next lynch. We need to start being more careful about our votes and how close we get to lynch lock so things like this don't happen again.

As one door closes another one opens, every flip gives us new information to work with. So stay optimistic ^^










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I said it. The Bursama train looks bad. And someone had to hammer it. RIP.
Jan 2, 2017 4:33 PM

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Well that moved fast overnight. This whole living in australia thing is quite the detriment...
Jan 2, 2017 4:51 PM

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Kit said:
Gruffin said:
Guys, we were supposed to use our time to look at other people. :\
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Dang.... I really want to post about who we should vote for instead but ran out of time.... this sucks hard
logic340 said:
I feel cheated we just lost 20 hours of discussion time.
I'm just as disappointed as the rest of you that the day was cut short, but try to channel that energy you had for today into our next lynch. We need to start being more careful about our votes and how close we get to lynch lock so things like this don't happen again.

As one door closes another one opens, every flip gives us new information to work with. So stay optimistic ^^
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Well I'll go ahead and respond to all the questions I didn't get to before Night fell.

@Phraze I think we might have to agree to disagree. I felt like I am playing in a very helpful way to town, but after todays events I have to step back and revaluate because this was not a great day for town and especially me (as from my POV I dug up most of the fuel for that lynch). I did partially answer about my research before this game but I didn't tag you. I have been reading for about a month prior to this game launching and have read a 1.8k post game and 6ish 300ish post games.

@Gruffin 356 is the post that made me say that Soren was driving the x40 train. He is calling out the active posters who are not on board and trying to build a consensus. The amount of work he did driving the x40 train but not participating in reflection after it flipped town worried me. Bad lynches happen but you shouldn't vanish when it was your train. I was hoping to bring it up today but I had thought Bursama was a more promising lead so that didn't work out. Him coming in late trying to save Bursama felt very pro-town though so it throws a lot of those thoughts out the window.

@LucianRoy I answered a lot of the questions you had for me about Soren here but specifically I saw Soren jumping onto Kit's post and rallying people behind it in 356 and others as opportunistic and I categorized that as doing the heavy lifting. But his behaviour around the Bursama lynch feels town so I'm back to neutral and paranoid.

If I missed any questions you want answered before night phase ends @ me.
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what the fudge. I come back to see day phase cut short? =.=

the dangers of majority lynches~ I was lynched once cuz of that still have yet to study the benefits of this system
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@Phraze I think we might have to agree to disagree. I felt like I am playing in a very helpful way to town, but after todays events I have to step back and revaluate because this was not a great day for town and especially me (as from my POV I dug up most of the fuel for that lynch). I did partially answer about my research before this game but I didn't tag you. I have been reading for about a month prior to this game launching and have read a 1.8k post game and 6ish 300ish post games.
nice to see we're getting along somewhere.
that's a total of 7 games u observed then(?) this is my 7th game. similar player level noted.
u should keep in mind that majority lynches can be locked. other than that, I guess u lack a hands-on experience. could be the reasons behind ur playstyle. neutral but not a negative tell
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Phraze said:
nice to see we're getting along somewhere.
that's a total of 7 games u observed then(?) this is my 7th game. similar player level noted.
u should keep in mind that majority lynches can be locked. other than that, I guess u lack a hands-on experience. could be the reasons behind ur playstyle. neutral but not a negative tell

MTGS always does majority lynch lock (assuming that's why this game has it since it's crossbell) the benefit to me is it makes voting much more dangerous in late Lylo and Mylo because scum can quick hammer to win.

And lack of play experience combined with over confidence from reading games and a strong competitive streak I think explain my play style pretty well.
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Grapefruit21 said:
Phraze said:
nice to see we're getting along somewhere.
that's a total of 7 games u observed then(?) this is my 7th game. similar player level noted.
u should keep in mind that majority lynches can be locked. other than that, I guess u lack a hands-on experience. could be the reasons behind ur playstyle. neutral but not a negative tell

MTGS always does majority lynch lock (assuming that's why this game has it since it's crossbell) the benefit to me is it makes voting much more dangerous in late Lylo and Mylo because scum can quick hammer to win.

And lack of play experience combined with over confidence from reading games and a strong competitive streak I think explain my play style pretty well.
I see. not familiar with other mafia sites. I'm new to most of the mechanics(and need a mafia dictionary~) so trying to learn how majority lynches will benefit us.

accurate description about ur playstyle. newbie in a kind of way..
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SCUM


Wait until we see how the lynch turns out at least before you start making accusations. If he is scum, you'll thank me later. If he is not, it isn't like we were going to get anywhere by interrogating him anyway and there were no signs of changing votes elsewhere either (which is what Soren wanted), if he actually is mafia Soren should be an obvious choice for next day phase.

If he's actually town, well, my mistake, but he didn't do anything to defend himself either so the outcome was gonna be the same either way.

@Togs @Crossbell
We don't know what the outcome would have been you cut us short by 20 hours on our discussion, which means that is 20 hours worth of leads you took away from us. I would say your actions are more pro-mafia than Bursama's were. This shit was not called for and if you are town you just set yourself up for a mislynch D3. So how is what you did helpful in anyway and why should you be pardoned tomorrow? Where is the townie mindset in putting your own goals ahead of those of the town? You potentially set us back 3 townies with this move so I really hope you are scum at this point because for lynching Bursama for not having the town in mind you surely don't seem to have our best interest at heart either.
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@Soren the way you said that Bursama is town for obvious reasons seems like scum knowing what the flip would be. I could see you possibly being town but the fact that you didn't follow through on your post #915 I am having a hard time seeing you as town right about now. So I am going to ask you very directly and I want an answer from you. What is the reason you knew (so obvious) that Bursama was town?
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I take full responsibily of my actions if this lynch ends up being bad by the way, but if it doesn't, Soren will be my next vote for sure.
So how do you plan on taking responsibility for these actions?
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Why are people still pinging Bursama for information. He has already stayed that he he had no interest in defending himself or sharing ideas. Wouldn't our time be better spent questioning others to male sure he has the strongest scum read of us all?
I'm responding to multiple people as I catch up. I had a question for Bursama, so I asked it

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food for though, bur is town. who should we lynch instead?
I'm feeling Lucian because he seems to contradict himself often. But I'm not sure.
Can you give examples of where Lucian contradicted himself please?
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