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Dec 26, 2016 2:35 PM

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That is one convenient naturally occurring phenomenon.

Also, i don't think so, it has to be an ability. A weakened PM can't possibly have more mana than a Holy Grail, an almost infinite repository of mana.

Also, what does the amount have to do with it? Mana's just energy. That's like saying if you stored every bit of energy the sun gives off for several centuries, you'd be able to revive someone. No. It doesn't change much. If you can't make a plant grow with a hammer, you won't be able to do so with a bigger hammer.

I can see a case being made for how souls are essentially energy and how Medea could transfer souls to energy and all that, so maybe energy can be made to go the opposite direction with the right know-how.

The problem with that line of thought is two things, one is that converting unique souls into colorless energy is one thing, but doing the opposite is on entirely different league assuming it's even possible, and the second is that it's way beyond Magecraft or Sorcery as it still requires a special know-how that's not the former or the latter, meaning that it's still a special ability, not an intrinsic property of mana.

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Astro did you watch my Solomon vid

Just did. It provided some much needed insight on what Solomon may or may not do as turns pass, so thanks for that :D

I plan to try clearing it without the use of any Seals or quartz, so i think I'll first get my Que to lvl 90 and then attempt it with a suitable party and see how many times i get my ass kicked and tune my party accordingly until success.
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astroprogs said:
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Also, what does the amount have to do with it? Mana's just energy. That's like saying if you stored every bit of energy the sun gives off for several centuries, you'd be able to revive someone. No. It doesn't change much. If you can't make a plant grow with a hammer, you won't be able to do so with a bigger hammer.

I can see a case being made for how souls are essentially energy and how Medea could transfer souls to energy and all that, so maybe energy can be made to go the opposite direction with the right know-how.

The problem with that line of thought is two things, one is that converting unique souls into colorless energy is one thing, but doing the opposite is on entirely different league assuming it's even possible, and the second is that it's way beyond Magecraft or Sorcery as it still requires a special know-how that's not the former or the latter, meaning that it's still a special ability, not an intrinsic property of mana.

I'd say something here, but you said it all.
I can burn a body and use that to power a lightbulb, but I can't just toss electricity into a pile of carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen and traces of metals and have a human being pop out. I might get a couple bacteria, but that's already a best-case, super unlikely scenario.
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astroprogs said:


Just did. It provided some much needed insight on what Solomon may or may not do as turns pass, so thanks for that :D

I plan to try clearing it without the use of any Seals or quartz, so i think I'll first get my Que to lvl 90 and then attempt it with a suitable party and see how many times i get my ass kicked and tune my party accordingly until success.
You want to bring CE's that go through Evasion, that's what I learned
Sadly I don't have vids of the other fights, but yeah.
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No actually... that's not how you Merlin.
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No actually... that's not how you Merlin.
See this is how I think Merlin works, also its an early account gimme some slack
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ShadowfrostZen said:
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No actually... that's not how you Merlin.
See this is how I think Merlin works, also its an early account gimme some slack

Yeah but you wasted his invincibility skill on the first turn, didn't capitalize on his crazy crit buff, and stalled the fight just to use his NP. I recommend naming the video Having Fun With Merlin.jpg
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Frostbite_ said:
astroprogs said:

I can see a case being made for how souls are essentially energy and how Medea could transfer souls to energy and all that, so maybe energy can be made to go the opposite direction with the right know-how.

The problem with that line of thought is two things, one is that converting unique souls into colorless energy is one thing, but doing the opposite is on entirely different league assuming it's even possible, and the second is that it's way beyond Magecraft or Sorcery as it still requires a special know-how that's not the former or the latter, meaning that it's still a special ability, not an intrinsic property of mana.

I'd say something here, but you said it all.
I can burn a body and use that to power a lightbulb, but I can't just toss electricity into a pile of carbon, nitrogen, hydrogen, oxygen and traces of metals and have a human being pop out. I might get a couple bacteria, but that's already a best-case, super unlikely scenario.

The ironic thing is that doing this is actually possible, to make an artificial body, in the Nasuverse, as Touko would have you believe. Doing that to a soul in particular is the caveat. Even Touko remarks on how much messing with a soul is so out of league for mages, it's insane to even consider it.

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Just did. It provided some much needed insight on what Solomon may or may not do as turns pass, so thanks for that :D

I plan to try clearing it without the use of any Seals or quartz, so i think I'll first get my Que to lvl 90 and then attempt it with a suitable party and see how many times i get my ass kicked and tune my party accordingly until success.
You want to bring CE's that go through Evasion, that's what I learned
Sadly I don't have vids of the other fights, but yeah.

Yup, the guides I've read for that fight all seem to suggest doing that for dealing consistent damage to him without having to wait for RNG to decide randomly to not spam Dodge.

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I recommend naming the video Having Fun With Merlin.jpg

Isn't that the right way tho? :p
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ShinsoPriest said:
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See this is how I think Merlin works, also its an early account gimme some slack

Yeah but you wasted his invincibility skill on the first turn, didn't capitalize on his crazy crit buff, and stalled the fight just to use his NP. I recommend naming the video Having Fun With Merlin.jpg
>I don't do gameplay
>Me making a shitpost video
>Having fun

Yeah, I'll not remember that, sure
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We just have to accept that even the weakened Beast of Gaia is ridiculously powerful and doesnt give a shit about the limitations that even True Magic has.
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Frostbite_ said:
astroprogs said:

That is one convenient naturally occurring phenomenon.

Also, i don't think so, it has to be an ability. A weakened PM can't possibly have more mana than a Holy Grail, an almost infinite repository of mana.

Also, what does the amount have to do with it? Mana's just energy. That's like saying if you stored every bit of energy the sun gives off for several centuries, you'd be able to revive someone. No. It doesn't change much. If you can't make a plant grow with a hammer, you won't be able to do so with a bigger hammer.
You can threaten à gardener with à bigger Hammer though...
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Seriously, I'm SO glad DW got their shit together in terms of music. Such a great remix of Rhongo's theme. The anime can be very good or it can suck, but at the very least it's gonna have a great OST.

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We just have to accept that even the weakened Beast of Gaia is ridiculously powerful and doesnt give a shit about the limitations that even True Magic has.

What we know of them makes that plausible, but they have to make some more effort in selling to us an ability that goes against PM's nature.
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Seriously, I'm SO glad DW got their shit together in terms of music. Such a great remix of Rhongo's theme. The anime can be very good or it can suck, but at the very least it's gonna have a great OST.



I'm pretty sure it's literally just Rhongo's theme and not a remix.


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Btw the OVA is reported to be 74 minutes long, so its basically going to be a movie and aniplex picked it up, which means it'll be streaming on CrunchyRoll on release.
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KingOfSherous said:

I'm pretty sure it's literally just Rhongo's theme and not a remix.

This is the short loop 2-minute version of the remix. Time Throne is the full 6-minute version of that remix.
This, however, is Rhongo's theme:
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-Mahesvara said:
Btw the OVA is reported to be 74 minutes long, so its basically going to be a movie and aniplex picked it up, which means it'll be streaming on CrunchyRoll on release.

74? I thought it was going to be 48 minutes, 60 max. This is a pretty nice surprise.
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astroprogs said:
-Mahesvara said:
Btw the OVA is reported to be 74 minutes long, so its basically going to be a movie and aniplex picked it up, which means it'll be streaming on CrunchyRoll on release.

72? I thought it was going to be 48 minutes, 60 max. This is a pretty nice surprise.


Yeah, here's the link
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-27/aniplex-usa-to-stream-fate-grand-order-granblue-fantasy-anime-on-crunchyroll-daisuki/.110410
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They renamed Fuyuki to Fuyugi so that dampens my hopes
Dec 28, 2016 9:37 AM

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ShadowfrostZen said:
They renamed Fuyuki to Fuyugi so that dampens my hopes

Hm? Where did they do that? It's correct in the anime itself.
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They renamed Fuyuki to Fuyugi so that dampens my hopes

Hm? Where did they do that? It's correct in the anime itself.
Check the USA website.
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ShadowfrostZen said:
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Hm? Where did they do that? It's correct in the anime itself.
Check the USA website.

Oh.
That's Aniplex, though. They're infamous for fucking up summaries on their US websites.
Don't worry, it's not an indication of anything.
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God I fucking hope not.
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Man, the final order was a treat to read. Here are some of my favorite highlights from the chapter:

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The lack of Gilgamesh disappoints me...

Mashu is based kouhai though.
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Astro I love you and all but that's a serious text dump I don't want to scroll through.
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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/ukyaw3/

No limited servants in New Years Gacha.

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my dilemma:
- no need of saber, got them all except okita
- i need a strong aoe archer, but the non limited one are shit...
- I want tituria vanilla, but got high chant to get np3 Karna or enkidu >_<
- no need of more caster
- i wouldnt mind pulling for NP 3Drake, Oneesan or Ozy, but melb is haunting me.
- np2 jack would be nice but np2 jeanne like me :x
- no need of zerk, raikou do the job perfectly

what should i do? (- -)"
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Welp, no limited servant. Oh well, the Lancer class looks nice. I don't mind getting any of them. Though Tituria is the main priority.

Let's hope the limited gacha would be great.

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Ahahaha. Not this time Altera. Caster gacha for me for np upgrade for Waver, Sanzou or Tamamo. Slim chance for Titocris too!
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New Year Campaign 2017!


3 days login bonus
Duration: 2017 Jan 1st 4AM ~ Jan 4th 3:59AMJST

Jan 1st

    Quartz x 17
    Summon ticket x 1


Jan 2nd

    Golden Apple x 17
    Summon ticket x 1


Jan 3rd

    4* (All) Exp cards x 17
    Summon ticket x 1


Free CE
Login between 2017 Jan 1st 4:00 AM and Jan 12th 3:59 AM to get the CE

CE name: Cheers to 2017
CE effect: Heal 100 hp per turn


New items add to Da Vinci's shop & double Mana Prism shop items for January

Rare Prism shop
Add an option to make Mona Lisa CE available in Mana Prism shop.


ShadowfrostZen said:
Astro I love you and all but that's a serious text dump I don't want to scroll through.

Edited :D
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No limited Servant .. I soooo wanted Archer Gilgamesh :'( :'( Not that I have much money to waste on it anyway
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[center]New Year Campaign 2017!

New items add to Da Vinci's shop & double Mana Prism shop items for January

Rare Prism shop
Add an option to make Mona Lisa CE available in Mana Prism shop.




finally, i can get the 2 copies i am missing \[T]/
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News from the released yesterday F/GO CM3: Mysterious Sailor X, Prototype Arthur, Wong Fei-Hung, Semiramis and Sigurd's releases are hinted at to be soon.

Grigori Rasputin borderline confirmed to be Pseudo-Servant Kotomine Kirei.

Archer Sita also got a full profile. This could be a sign that she'll be released soon as well.


From Ir's character relationship in CM3:
Kerry
My Dear, even if you forget me, I will always remember you. Even if my voice won't reach you, I...
^basically Kerry's last ascension line

Illya
(Spotted-> Bright expression-> Instant hug. All in 0.5 seconds)

Emiya
He seems to be good at housework, too. A wonderful child, right?
But, it's not only about that, I feel that my maternal instinct is aching.

Artoria
Saber, even in this place, you are still fighting.

Alex/Ko-Gil
My, how cute! ...Eh? Excuse me, can you repeat your name again?

El-Melloi II
My, my. You have grown well...no, I'm sorry. That's what I really think so my tongue slipped. It was meant as a compliment. you know?

Rasputin
Eh? First thing first, could you die for me?


Source.
TL by GundamFSN from BL.
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We need more Jouji Nakata.

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We need more Jouji Nakata.

Yep, we can never have enough of that voice.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot that Kirei's b-day was two days ago too.
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Inb4 King Hassan for New Year Gacha.

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http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/ukyaw3/

No limited servants in New Years Gacha.

Well, now I can roll for the Lancer gacha without worry since Saber Shiki won't be in the gacha.
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News from the released yesterday F/GO CM3: Mysterious Sailor X, Prototype Arthur, Wong Fei-Hung, Semiramis and Sigurd's releases are hinted at to be soon.

Grigori Rasputin borderline confirmed to be Pseudo-Servant Kotomine Kirei.

Archer Sita also got a full profile. This could be a sign that she'll be released soon as well.


From Ir's character relationship in CM3:
Kerry
My Dear, even if you forget me, I will always remember you. Even if my voice won't reach you, I...
^basically Kerry's last ascension line

Illya
(Spotted-> Bright expression-> Instant hug. All in 0.5 seconds)

Emiya
He seems to be good at housework, too. A wonderful child, right?
But, it's not only about that, I feel that my maternal instinct is aching.

Artoria
Saber, even in this place, you are still fighting.

Alex/Ko-Gil
My, how cute! ...Eh? Excuse me, can you repeat your name again?

El-Melloi II
My, my. You have grown well...no, I'm sorry. That's what I really think so my tongue slipped. It was meant as a compliment. you know?

Rasputin
Eh? First thing first, could you die for me?


Source.
TL by GundamFSN from BL.


WHERE saberface???
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Looks like ill go for the Rider gacha then, I want Ozy.
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You need rare mana prism in order to access the copies of Mona Lisa CE... wtf DW

I'm rolling for the assassin one. Aiming for JTR and if I end up getting Jeanne, Ima burn her for rare mana prism to get the FP CE
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Was Rasputin in the leaked list? I am sure I dont remember him.
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I guess i could also try the zerker gacha in hopes for Cu Alter. Descisions, decisions...
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Incidentally, did you know it is rumored that Rasputin had a 11-13 inch penis that may have been severed and housed in a museum? That's quite a Noble Phantasm.

The more you know.
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News from the released yesterday F/GO CM3: Mysterious Sailor X, Prototype Arthur, Wong Fei-Hung, Semiramis and Sigurd's releases are hinted at to be soon.

Grigori Rasputin borderline confirmed to be Pseudo-Servant Kotomine Kirei.

Archer Sita also got a full profile. This could be a sign that she'll be released soon as well.
Where's the source for the info?
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Incidentally, did you know it is rumored that Rasputin had a 11-13 inch penis that may have been severed and housed in a museum? That's quite a Noble Phantasm.

The more you know.

Things you never knew about Kirei: Part One.
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PSA: The anime airs in exactly 7 hours.

Man, Babylonia had some pretty epic CGs.

Also, MFW Helena is the biggest tie-in between F/GO and Extella.


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Was Rasputin in the leaked list? I am sure I dont remember him.

He wasn't on it, no.

ShadowfrostZen said:
astroprogs said:
News from the released yesterday F/GO CM3: Mysterious Sailor X, Prototype Arthur, Wong Fei-Hung, Semiramis and Sigurd's releases are hinted at to be soon.

Grigori Rasputin borderline confirmed to be Pseudo-Servant Kotomine Kirei.

Archer Sita also got a full profile. This could be a sign that she'll be released soon as well.
Where's the source for the info?

BL, for the most part. The F/GO mats thread.
It's scattered here and there across several pages by multiple posters, inside and outside BL, so that's just the gist of it.

Frostbite_ said:
Genkii said:
Incidentally, did you know it is rumored that Rasputin had a 11-13 inch penis that may have been severed and housed in a museum? That's quite a Noble Phantasm.

The more you know.

Things you never knew about Kirei: Part One.


How about: Things you'd rather have went on with your life without knowing: Part One?
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PSA: The anime airs in exactly 7 hours.

Man, Babylonia had some pretty epic CGs.

Also, MFW Helena is the biggest tie-in between F/GO and Extella.


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Was Rasputin in the leaked list? I am sure I dont remember him.

He wasn't on it, no.

ShadowfrostZen said:
Where's the source for the info?

BL, for the most part. The F/GO mats thread.
It's scattered here and there across several pages by multiple posters, inside and outside BL, so that's just the gist of it.

I'm asking do you have a link to that stuff you talked about. I find it unbelievable at the moment if I don't have a second source.
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Welp, the anime is better than the game already.


I ask of you, are you... my Senpai?


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I'm asking do you have a link to that stuff you talked about. I find it unbelievable at the moment if I don't have a second source.

https://ff.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5kwcg6/third_fgo_material_book/
http://pastebin.com/WhFn9vsE
And the last 20 pages of this thread: http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/6951-Fate-Grand-Order-Mats
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Miyamoto Mushahi leaked.

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and probably a chick.

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