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| okay a.f.k.'s version is not out yet, but I saw this screenshot of this episode http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/uploads/377/luckystar.jpg if this is a real LuckyChannel screenshot, they need to be killed NOW. Suzumiya Haruhi and Shakugan no Shana shonen anime?! GALGE are "eroge where beautiful girls are the main selling point"?! wtf?! someone shoot them please. |
wildebeest0001 said: okay a.f.k.'s version is not out yet, but I saw this screenshot of this episode http://www.minaidehazukashii.com/uploads/377/luckystar.jpg if this is a real LuckyChannel screenshot, they need to be killed NOW. Suzumiya Haruhi and Shakugan no Shana shonen anime?! GALGE are "eroge where beautiful girls are the main selling point"?! wtf?! someone shoot them please. ........ definitely waiting for the a.f.k. subs. |
the_pillows said: yeah, i noticed that reference note as well...they also had the term "moe" in their translation for the op which bothered me for some reason...usually faster subs mean translation quality is lower... :( either way, this episode was still great...it's like 90% konata... Where did they have "moe" in the OP translation? O: But lol, 90% Konata is good XDb |
| Yeah, Kona overdose. I'm over the fact that Konata is an anime otaku... can we find out something else next episode please. |
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Jisatsu said: Where did they have "moe" in the OP translation? O:  they've been doing this for a while too...i hate translation styles like this... Kopanda said: Yeah, Kona overdose. I'm over the fact that Konata is an anime otaku... can we find out something else next episode please. i kinda agree with this as well...even though more konata could never hurt anyone, it feels like they're just rehashing the same scenarios over and over...i doubt that there will be any character development...however, to this episode's credit, we do get a very important tidbit of information regarding her parents... |
| That was awesome. Best episode yet. All of you who watched LC's version should be ashamed of yourselves. Great stuff like this should not be watched with crappy subs. So many awesome references. Some stuff i laughed at was when Konata gave that taiyaki excuse. That was hilarious. Another good moment was when she watched Haruhi. I was laughing out loud when she was critizing on Yuki's sequence and the director. Watching this episode showed how close Kagami and Konata are. Anything with those two involved is win. Man there is so much stuff i want to say but......oh why not, just a few more. Another good scene was when Konata was talking about her job. They way she talked about how small chests was valuable was just awesome. A couple last things i want to comment on was that Bunta-kun(punta?) doll in Kagami room was great and the Nyoron~ in the lucky channel was just awesome. Ok i think i'm gonna stop now, gonna go take some screenshots and as always, looking forward to the next episode. p.s. Konata ftw~ |
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| I'm glad I waited for AFK, definitely. There aren't many shows where I just wait around for a certain fansub group, but AFK's translations are so much better... By the way, did anyone else get a kick out of the bit about the director and people flaming away on message boards? I love this show so much... [edit] Beaten to the punch, I see :D |
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Krelian said: By the way, did anyone else get a kick out of the bit about the director and people flaming away on message boards? I love this show so much... That scene with Konata studying is like the mirror image of myself studying. Especially the message boards joke *cough - This series is going on too long; I'll give it another episode before I drop it; filler, filler, filler - cough*! I always say okay another half hour and I keep watching some episode of anime until I get to the point saying, CRAP I'M SCREWED! And then I have to pull another all nighter :P. This show always splits my sides, although I thought the last episode was funner than this one. P.S. About the fansub groups, I pitty the fool who don't watch a.f.k.! |
| I feel so useless whenever I post after Faust and Krelian when I watch this show. ^.^ You guys always say what I want to, dang it >.> I love Konata, but she reminds me so much of myself that it was a bit tiring seeing so much of her this episode. It's like... lol I do that on a daily basis... moving on now... |
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| Great minds think alike, or so they say =P I'm having trouble picturing you being disappointed that the flu isn't a 'powered up' cold though hehe Luckily for me, I don't have anywhere to be at the moment, so my all nighters don't set me back much. I do tend to do the same when I have work or school though. =/ |
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| So some of you are still making that mistake? Lucky Star + a.f.k = WIN! Anyway, I so loved this episode! It was incredibly hilarious! The Haruhi stuff, the Kanon excuse, Bonta-kun, the Mayumi (Shuffle!) picture below Konata's clock... so amazing. I got a stomach ache from laughing at the "Nyoron. Just kidding." Words just can't express it! This show is love. |
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| The fact that there is a bunch of notes covering the show and you would have to pause every 2 minutes to read automatically fails. Reading the notes to understand the jokes does not make it funnier. If you dont understand it then you just dont understand it. Being able to get the reference and jokes without having someone tell you is what makes it funny. |
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| One thing i really loved about this ep. MAYUMI POSTER! YAYAYAYAY! Other than that, best episode yet. Good thing i stood my ground and waited for the afk subs. |
BlueYoshi said: One thing i really loved about this ep. MAYUMI POSTER! YAYAYAYAY! Other than that, best episode yet. Good thing i stood my ground and waited for the afk subs. Yeah, I was wondering why she had that Mayumi poster but then when she starts to talk about how proud she is about being flat chested ... it all suddenly made sense :P. |
| You make a valid arguement i agree to it to some extent. First of all i do understand that fansubbing is a free service and that it is my privaligde for being able to get them. But i do have a right to criticize on thier subs and i dont see the problem with me saying that watching LC's version fails. I dont really care if you watch LC's version, all i see it as you couldn't wait for a better sub. Good shows deserve to have good subs. As for the notes on the screen, even if it is for three seconds, it is a huge distraction. Especially for a show like lucky star that has a lot of references. I understand that some notes are necessary however there coudlve been other ways to show it. Thats what i liked aboout GG's version of Pani Poni Dash. They had pdf's that came along with the episode with all the notes. So instead of having a bunch of stuff on the screen they had notes on the side. But i guess since no other group does that LC's the only choice. Last thing i'm gonna say is that is one of the appeals to watching a show like this is that it is fun to be able to find the reference for yourself rather than having someone else tell you. If you cant find it the first time, watch it again. This show has a high rewatch value. I plan on watching each episode twice (first time fomr afk and the 2nd time from EnA). Ok i think thats enough, i dont want to reread my post to see make any changes. Also note that you shouldnt take all this criticism too seroiusly. Its all fun and games. A bunch of us on the channel are ragging on Ranivus for watching LC's version. So its just a few laughs here and there. However, i am happy that you wrote such a thought out post since this forum seems to be lacking of good discussions. *Gives the eye to those spammers* oh and nice sig btw. |
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| The eye? I swear, i don't spam that much! Hmm...i just like afk more because of the quality and i do get most of the references. By the way, when does a Lucky Star episode usually become available to watch? I started this last week and caught up last night, so i don't know when a Lucky Star episode gets subbed. |
| Once a week. The AFK episodes are a few days behind LC's though. Anyway, I do think there's some value to having the references explained (if they're explained effectively), but that stuff is much too distracting the first time 'round. I had a hard time fully enjoying Pani Poni Dash (though I loved the show anyway) because I was forever pausing and reading the on-screen notes. In my opinion, it's better to just enjoy the show the first time 'round and get what you can. If it interests you enough to download and watch another version afterwards to figure out all the references, that's fine, but it's tough to actually enjoy the show when you're focused on figuring it all out. It's okay not to get all the jokes. |
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| I'll try watching LC's version for Episode 5. Then Afk. I'll have my rant then. Also, Ep 5 will have the change of director, right? I can't wait. |
| Maybe it's just me, but after reading about the director change, I thought the audition for that guy's position at the end of Lucky Channel to be be an interesting coincidence/foreshadowing. |
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i just have one thing to say to that argument above: this automatically makes ANY subber better than Lucky Channel. |
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| Well put hehe. |
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| It'd have to actually be explained well in order to help people understand. Even disregarding the translation (who the hell talks like that?), they were completely off in describing shounen anime/manga (which consists of stuff like Bleach and Dragonball Z) and the rest of it is too cluttered with acronyms and useless extra info to make sense of. Not to mention that the notes and subs together take up like a third of the screen. Can you really read all that, keep up with the conversation, and actually make sense of the joke you're missing quickly enough? So you either end up skipping the notes, pausing the show over and over to read them, or completely missing the show by focusing too much on the explanations. It'd be a nice reference if the explanation wasn't worthless, I guess, but it's hard to enjoy a show and make anything of the notes at the same time. |
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| Pani Poni Dash has a lot of outside references and in-jokes too, and I noticed while I was watching it that the notes (though well done) were extremely distracting. I either disrupted the flow of the show by pausing to read them or just plain missed the show by trying to read them and watch. In the end, I just ended up ignoring them so I could actually appreciate the show. If I had to choose between good, well-translated subs and detailed notes (to say nothing of shoddy ones), I'd always go for the former. |
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| Hehe...GALGE... I think Konata went on to talk about her dad's "interests" in games and manga, and i got the point of the joke. I laughed. Seriously, who cares whether LC or AFK is better? If your watching Lucky Star, then you don't fail, or lose at life, or whatever. |
| Because its a great show that it doesnt deserve crap like the pic above. afk and EnA ftw~ |
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| Ok...there goes my zing moment. Let me try again. "I am pretty laid back, but everyone else is pretty psycho about this whole issue." - BlueYoshi. Joke by the way. I've done little jokes like this before and people get strangely offended. |
| One of the hang-ups of the internet - people get offended by the strangest things. |
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| on the other hand rather than helping you understand the jokes they may actually make you get the completely wrong impression, as shown above. i just feel that crappy subbing should not be rewarded with a high download rate, especially if they're speed subs cuz then ppl don't care about quality. if ppl download them it's liek a vote of approval and then subbers will continue to sub crappy cuz they know speed is what it's all about and the anime community doesn't care about quality, which is something that may be true but I don't like to believe. and yes I realize they're doing this for free but at the same time there still has to be a standard. |
| some notes are fine but with crap like above i just cant like LC, their effort could be better spent. but the main reason i'm posting is because i gotta say to Krelian that those veggies of yours creeped me out when i first saw it. maybe its because of the sudden change |
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| The main reason i'm posting is because i don't know how to get a kick ass picture onto my MAL sig. |
| They kinda creeped me out the first time I saw them too. I think they're hilarious, but that may just be the alcohol talking. and yes I realize they're doing this for free but at the same time there still has to be a standard. Well said. I don't think anyone has the right to demand anything from them or berate them about it, but nobody is above a little honest criticism, volunteer or not. |
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| i personally dont think there is need for a standard especially since this is a new group but for crikes sakes (yeah....i'm not sure how to spell) present the info right. edit: damnit everytime i post something there is always another new post before me note: yay for an anime discussion to make it 3 pages. first time i think |
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| Reply 1 for The Pillows: Thanks. If i can remember all that, i'll change my sig soon. Reply 2 for The Pillows: My good friend Bondius uses LC actually. Because of the helpful notes. Reply to Faust: If we upgrade the site again, and Xinil decides to put an old forum thread into the forum again (which will be ages i guess), make this thread one of them. |
Fansub is fansub... they do it for fans, hard for me to hate on someones work. If i get LC or AFK they'll basically both end up telling the same story so the earlier the better for me ^_^ With all the ref notes in this show doesnt really matter if they're off or too much or whatever, since you dont miss any "action" in a show like Lucky Star. |
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| It's sad that Konata is using IE 6 up there. :( |
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Cyruz said: It's sad that Konata is using IE 6 up there. :( At least Jigoku Shoujo knew firefox was the superior surfin' method. :-p You'd think Konata would be on top of such things, being the otaku she is. |
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| Yup, that's my point ^^. |
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