cause said: geniobastardo said: People who complain that they can't 'touch' their online friends just seem to me that even online, they're looking for sex friends rather friends. People who are suspicious of online friendships, but are a-okay with walking out to a party and meeting people are living in a contradiction. I wouldn't immediately call someone i met at a party a friend. An acquaintance who I might want to get to know better, but not a friend. Like coworkers - they are NOT your friends in 99% of situations despite positive interactions on a typical basis. This si not just my life experience talking, but other people's as well. Coworkers are people being paid to be nice to you. Thinking your coworkers are your "friends" and putting them on your facebook and social media and other such things so they can tell your boss you got drunk and came in hungover is the worst. idea. ever. |
aloricg said: But with online convos it's hard to discern tone, humor, etc.. And that can really change the dynamic between two people. I use online dating - cuz i don't like bars/clubs - and I've set up some "rules" for myself along the lines of: A) Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person. B) Honeymoon periods exist and are seemingly permanent online. People will not show their true colors until you've met in person and even with that not for some time. C) People be crazy. Have you ever met someone you met online or are you just making this up |
aloricg said: A) Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person. Maybe your online friendship was a failure that the guy/girl turned out to be different. 'Prying' into the other person is an important part of the friendship. Everyone puts up a natural barrier or a masquerade if that's what you prefer. Friendship begins when you look beyond the barrier. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
geniobastardo said: aloricg said: A) Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person. Maybe your online friendship was a failure that the guy/girl turned out to be different. 'Prying' into the other person is an important part of the friendship. Everyone puts up a natural barrier or a masquerade if that's what you prefer. Friendship begins when you look beyond the barrier. On top of the fact this exact same thing can happen with a person you first meet in person too. People sometimes are not who they seem to be when you first meet. |
cause said: aloricg said: But with online convos it's hard to discern tone, humor, etc.. And that can really change the dynamic between two people. I use online dating - cuz i don't like bars/clubs - and I've set up some "rules" for myself along the lines of: A) Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person. B) Honeymoon periods exist and are seemingly permanent online. People will not show their true colors until you've met in person and even with that not for some time. C) People be crazy. Have you ever met someone you met online or are you just making this up Met literally dozens. |
| And for those suggesting I'm way off base.. how many people have you met from online? I've done it dating, socially, and part of a job (have to attend events in an active online community to promote stuff). People are NEVER what you think they'll be. |
aloricg said: And for those suggesting I'm way off base.. how many people have you met from online? I've done it dating, socially, and part of a job (have to attend events in an active online community to promote stuff). People are NEVER what you think they'll be. That's precisely why your opinion is wrong about them. |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| So you've struck out online and now look at it cynically? Tell me would it make sense if I said "man I hate real life socializing because it wasn't what I thought it was". No. People would say that's stupid and that I should just keep trying. Correct? I've met around 10 or so people. I plan on having a party with a group of very close online friends in about a year. They are on par with friends I've met through irl interactions and greetings. And to rally your point against you. If people are going to lie to you. They're going to lie regardless of if it's online or offline meetings. People who are never who they seem are people who are liars. And liars are present in all forms of mediums. That is not online exclusive. |
| I just can't.. I white girl can't.. I never said the result was always bad, just that people aren't what you think they're going to be. And you think i've "given up" or something. LOL. Reading comprehension kids, basic boom-boom reading comprehension. |
| I do, yes. The person on the other side of that screen is sinew, blood and has a soul so they are just as important to me as if I knew them locally. I try to be there for people I care about when they're at their worst because anyone can call themselves a friend at the best of times, it's the ones who stick around to give you a helping hand when you're on your knees that are true friends. Some people shrug me off but I won't chew them out for it. I'm boring, yes, but I'm always there for people who need it. |
| "Dakimakura aren't meant for fucking." -Moog, January 2015 When a site's moderators warn you for condemning a troll, you know their moderators need to be changed out. |
| Online friends. but only just a handful of em. ('ω')三( ε: )三(.ω.)三( :3 ) |
aloricg said: I just can't.. I white girl can't.. I never said the result was always bad, just that people aren't what you think they're going to be. And you think i've "given up" or something. LOL. Reading comprehension kids, basic boom-boom reading comprehension. All your points have only been implied to be negative traits, which you base off your "experience" in the subject. You even stated that "Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person." which is a blanket statement to everything based on your "bad" experiences. Ergo, you have a cynical view. Saying "it isn't what you think it is" applies to everything. Literally every social interaction ever. You're trying to discern them into two categories, of online and offline, when they are mutual in the same cord of people are dicks. People can be a lying dick whether online or offline. You can try and pull the reading comprehension card. But that won't save you from having a cynical opinion. |
| Out of the large amount of people I've come to associate with online over the past few years only one maybe two would I consider myself as close to as anyone I know face to face but these are friendships forged over a decade of daily contact and after various conflicts... I have met few different people in person after hanging out online and some of them have been pretty cool but I've also met a few who were straight up freaky and made me regret the decision to meet from the get go. So I guess, while meeting them for the first time will probably change your initial ideal image of them that isn't necessarily a bad thing and sometimes what you meet up front is just a nervous version of the person you do know. All in all, yeah, I think it's legit to have friends you've never met face to face. It's the relationship that you have with said person that makes the friendship, I mean I have RL friends who I hardly ever see but that doesn't diminish the friendship. |
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TheRealNico said: aloricg said: I just can't.. I white girl can't.. I never said the result was always bad, just that people aren't what you think they're going to be. And you think i've "given up" or something. LOL. Reading comprehension kids, basic boom-boom reading comprehension. Maybe you're the reason why people don't come to you? No one really likes cynical/dick type people regardless online/offline so I don't blame them for backing off on you. Never said anything like that.. Wow, project much..? |
| The fact that you've gone to great lengths to create intricate obsessive fantasies about me and my life is.. troubling. |
| Or, creative~ |
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NomadShiki said: Or, creative~ If I owned a rabbit, i'd fear for its demise in a pot. |
aloricg said: We don't have that here, sorry. :/Reading comprehension kids, basic boom-boom reading comprehension. |
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| I'm probably gonna be that guy who makes a post that's way too long. I value IRL friendships more, but if I'm being honest, I don't think anyone has ever known me as well as some of my online friends. The barrier of sitting behind a computer screen allows you to reveal more of yourself than you normally would in person (or for me anyways). Of course I should qualify this by saying that most of my closest online friends were people I'd sit in Ventrilo servers with all the time, so we actually "spoke" as opposed to typing. I first got involved in online communities in the late 90's and have some online friends that I've known for almost as long. I used to frequent Counter-Strike servers where there'd be literally 100+ people who were regular players on that particular server and I more or less knew them all. It was like you could always hop on and hang out with people you know, which definitely has value. I even have two online friends who met through a CS team that I started and they've now been living together for something like 8 years. I had a group of guys who were my CS team that would hang out in a ventrilo server pretty much anytime we were at home, whether we were playing games or not. We'd just sit there and hang out while we surfed the web or whatever, even after we stopped playing as a team. It really wasn't much different from sitting on the couch watching TV with my roommate. After years and years of this, you come to value those relationships pretty highly. One of my friends even popped into the voice chat server saying "yeah, so I bought this ring earlier today... am I crazy if I'm thinking about proposing?" E-friends gave him the push and encouragement to get out there and do it, which gives you warm fuzzies if you think about it, having known someone through HS, college, into the real world, parenthood and beyond. Still never met them in person, but it doesn't discount the friendship. It's kind of funny, we don't play games together at all anymore, but we still talk about serious or important IRL issues when they come up. Of course the more popular internet communities become, the more crap you have to wade through to find quality people to get to know. Trolls everywhere. |
| I'm going to point out that I believe, in general, hetero men have tenuous (at best) relationships with other men. Often what they'd call "friendship" i'd barely recognize as an acquaintance. |
aloricg said: That's why all the loners on MAL try to befriend each other so they can pretend that everyone are their hot female anime avys instead.I'm going to point out that I believe, in general, hetero men have tenuous (at best) relationships with other men. Often what they'd call "friendship" i'd barely recognize as an acquaintance. |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
Korrvo said: aloricg said: That's why all the loners on MAL try to befriend each other so they can pretend that everyone are their hot female anime avys instead.I'm going to point out that I believe, in general, hetero men have tenuous (at best) relationships with other men. Often what they'd call "friendship" i'd barely recognize as an acquaintance. Oi hello |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
Korrvo said: aloricg said: That's why all the loners on MAL try to befriend each other so they can pretend that everyone are their hot female anime avys instead.I'm going to point out that I believe, in general, hetero men have tenuous (at best) relationships with other men. Often what they'd call "friendship" i'd barely recognize as an acquaintance. Fuyukai desu. |
geniobastardo said: or hot yaoi avys?Korrvo said: That's why all the loners on MAL try to befriend each other so they can pretend that everyone are their hot female anime avys instead. Oi hello |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
bigguy37 said: story Spending time with people over voice chat is just as effective as sitting in front of someone face to face. Being social is no longer hinged on face to face meetings. We're in a new age. Tradition is no longer applied because we're more connected then we have ever before. Plus old school CS. I approve. |
TheRealNico said: cause said: Spending time with people over voice chat is just as effective as sitting in front of someone face to face. Being social is no longer hinged on face to face meetings. We're in a new age. Tradition is no longer applied because we're more connected then we have ever before. Plus old school CS. I approve. Some people are still mentally in the late 90s. As if that was the last of the "good times." That was the time when cartoons were still good bruh. |
Korrvo said: geniobastardo said: or hot yaoi avys?Oi hello Shaddap |
[i]"Yet each man kills the thing he loves, [/i]By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!'' ~Oscar |
| Which is why infants with no physical contact by care givers aside from mandatory interaction to feed/change have higher death rates.. Cuz, ya know, there's no benefit to real physical interaction. *eye roll* It's funny how the ones trying to justify the online-only "friendships" are the ones with no discernible real life ones. Telling. |
aloricg said: Which is why infants with no physical contact by care givers aside from mandatory interaction to feed/change have higher death rates.. Cuz, ya know, there's no benefit to real physical interaction. *eye roll* It's funny how the ones trying to justify the online-only "friendships" are the ones with no discernible real life ones. Telling.  |
SubaTonic said: An online friend can mean a damn helluva lot. The best friend I ever had was a boy I met in a Gamespy chat lobby when I was around 11 years of age, and we were inseparable all the way until he joined the Navy sometime after my 18th birthday. I won't even bother guessing how much time we spent chatting and playing games online in those 7 years, but it was thousands and thousands and thousands of hours (We logged over a thousand hours on some games alone). I attribute our gradual separation to be the primary reason I sunk into this stupid depression, but I won't blame him. That guy was like a brother to me. So yeah, long distance don't mean shit if the connection is strong enough. I swear you've said elsewhere that you have like no real world friends and aren't emotionally connected to people. How do you know what a real friendship even is for comparison? |
SubaTonic said: An online friend can mean a damn helluva lot. The best friend I ever had was a boy I met in a Gamespy chat lobby when I was around 11 years of age, and we were inseparable all the way until he joined the Navy sometime after my 18th birthday. I won't even bother guessing how much time we spent chatting and playing games online in those 7 years, but it was thousands and thousands and thousands of hours (We logged over a thousand hours on some games alone). I attribute our gradual separation to be the primary reason I sunk into this stupid depression, but I won't blame him. That guy was like a brother to me. So yeah, long distance don't mean shit if the connection is strong enough. Wow. See real shit right here. Mad respect to you bro. |
aloricg said: It's funny how the ones trying to justify the online-only "friendships" are the ones with no discernible real life ones. Telling.  |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
| Omg, they think that's a real friendship... *hangs head in shame* |
aloricg said: SubaTonic said: An online friend can mean a damn helluva lot. The best friend I ever had was a boy I met in a Gamespy chat lobby when I was around 11 years of age, and we were inseparable all the way until he joined the Navy sometime after my 18th birthday. I won't even bother guessing how much time we spent chatting and playing games online in those 7 years, but it was thousands and thousands and thousands of hours (We logged over a thousand hours on some games alone). I attribute our gradual separation to be the primary reason I sunk into this stupid depression, but I won't blame him. That guy was like a brother to me. So yeah, long distance don't mean shit if the connection is strong enough. I swear you've said elsewhere that you have like no real world friends and aren't emotionally connected to people. How do you know what a real friendship even is for comparison?  |
aloricg said: It's funny how the ones trying to justify the online-only "friendships" are the ones with no discernible real life ones. Telling. You just said in an earlier post how you didn't like how this nico person was assuming so much about you personally, and now you're doing the same? Seems a bit hypocritical yes? |
cause said: aloricg said: It's funny how the ones trying to justify the online-only "friendships" are the ones with no discernible real life ones. Telling. You just said in an earlier post how you didn't like how this nico person was assuming so much about you personally, and now you're doing the same? Seems a bit hypocritical yes? Fight fire with fire :) And i'm basing my statements off what has been said. |
aloricg said: Omg, they think that's a real friendship... *hangs head in shame* lol. I have real life friends, I don't see what makes them inherently better than people you meet online. |
cause said: You just said in an earlier post how you didn't like how this nico person was assuming so much about you personally, and now you're doing the same? Seems a bit hypocritical yes?  |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
| "I know I am now wrong So I will try to salvage my sinking ship With quasi-alpha demeanor" |
| saw that nico |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
aloricg said: Omg, they think that's a real friendship... *hangs head in shame*  |
| This topic all over the place lol So many people with so many different (or lack of) experiences and so many different views and blinding biases because of it. I love it. |
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