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Oct 13, 2009 4:12 AM

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I think stag phone remind me more to the zecter. If heat can be use to activate stag then i wonder if they can henshin by using the stag gaia memory (it'll probably turned into half gatack).

And... I think toriga is better than trigger (at least when i say it).

Instead of worrying about the character, i'm more worried for the fact that the show would be "case of the fortnight" (similar to den-o) format.
Oct 13, 2009 6:25 AM

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henshinkamen said:

And... I think toriga is better than trigger (at least when i say it).


LUNNAAAAA TORIGAAAAA :D
Oct 13, 2009 8:59 AM

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I thought it's written RUNA TORIGA
we can go on doing this but SAIKURON is the one that we shouldnt use.

Wonder why they use the Japanese pronunciation for the enemy and not for the hero...
and also how they will pronounce anomalocaris (dunno if i spell it right) since it's quite a mouthful to say it
Oct 13, 2009 1:57 PM

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lol. Toriga is only one letter shorter than Trigger. XD

That is the beauty of it XDDDDDDD
Oct 13, 2009 4:00 PM

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m4rc0 said:
Susan said:
lol. Toriga is only one letter shorter than Trigger. XD

That is the beauty of it XDDDDDDD


Well fine then. I'm going to spell it トリガ! XD

BTW: Did anyone else notice that the little doll the girl has looks vaguely like Ryuki? XD
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Oct 13, 2009 6:24 PM

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I thought it looked more like Knight. XD
Oct 13, 2009 7:24 PM

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No... It looks like NAITO
Oct 13, 2009 7:52 PM

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LOL. XD
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Oct 13, 2009 8:12 PM

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Nice, hk.
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Oct 18, 2009 6:30 PM

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I want to watch the prologue tha comes wit DCD's movie soon.

So far W has the best start in all the heisei KR I've watched.
Oct 19, 2009 2:33 AM

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Yep same here the finisher is a bit disappointing, but i think if they put enemy with flying ability or super agility the finisher would look better. Anyway i can't even think of a cool finisher with ranged weapon. If I'm double i really want to hit it with metal branding instead.

So now i see why they call the memory as NAZCA.



I agree that it has one of the best start, but im worry that the writer will run out of idea and start filling it up with bad material.

Too bad we have to wait for the movie till next year... Really want to see the skull Rider
Oct 19, 2009 6:18 PM

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Let's hope that they have a lot of good ideas.
Oct 19, 2009 11:46 PM

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6 was good. I kind of the dig the cartoony CG. The episode was a nice pickup after a very depressing day. Sigh.

Agreed. Luna/Trigger finisher was a bit of a letdown. Nazca is awesome.
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Oct 20, 2009 12:17 AM

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I don't find the CG that bad. I mean they are doing a weekly TV show. They have a tight budget and a tight schedule. Its not like they are Peter Jackson filming a blockbuster trilogy with 285 million dollars during 274 days...

That also brings some freshness to the show. Its not only hte basic fight and finisher. I just think that the anomalocaris memory shouldn't be able to do that. The anomalocaris isn't huge. The T-Rex memory was ok, because it was pretty much a head that gave the power to form the whole T-Rex.

Hope you have a nicer day tomorrow, boss (or s it today? different time zones...)
Oct 20, 2009 5:32 AM

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Bad CG, fake explosive and miniature is always part of tokusatsu. I love those stuffs than high budget CG or action. Is just that if they rely too much on CG and forgetting other effects the show wouldn't be good (need more real explosion).

I think i've heard that the director of Ultraman says that, Why do we need to make fake things real while the viewer already knew that they were fake? (i think that's kinda what he said, correction is much appreciated)

Episode 6 fight was good because they bring out new idea to KR series. Hope that they would have a Gaia Memory for flying so that we could have an aerial battle (without the motor).
Oct 21, 2009 9:11 PM

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@m4rc0: I didn't say it was bad. I liked it! My thoughts were basically this:

henshinkamen said:
Why do we need to make fake things real while the viewer already knew that they were fake? (i think that's kinda what he said, correction is much appreciated)


I felt the way they stylized the big monster was pretty cool and better than if they had tried to make it more realistic. It was pretty smooth and well-animated too. =D

It's been a stressful couple weeks, but today was a pretty good day, and I think I can get through this. Thanks!
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Oct 21, 2009 10:16 PM

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Oct 22, 2009 12:05 AM

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henshinkamen said:
I think i've heard that the director of Ultraman says that, Why do we need to make fake things real while the viewer already knew that they were fake? (i think that's kinda what he said, correction is much appreciated)

IMO that depends. If you can do something like Star Wars or LotR, you should do it. It helps to create the atmosphere and helps the with the "suspension of disbelief".

But yes, if you can't, there is no need to spend too much money trying to. But then you should at least stylize it and make it look good. The guys in Japan know how to do it. THe chinese toku producers, not so much.

And boss, I misunderstood you. My bad. I read so many people bashing the CGI in W that I was kinda paranoid.
Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM

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Oct 26, 2009 12:06 AM

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"Nice Boke!"

Highlight of the episode, imo. Just something wasn't right... Maybe it was the thing with Phil, the investigation this time, the villain, the pacing... I dunno. Just not as cool as usual.
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Oct 26, 2009 12:12 AM

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"Nice Boke!" - priceless indeed. Akiko is very funny.



I liked the episode. Didn't find it very different from the others in terms of quality.
Oct 26, 2009 3:31 AM

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+A funny and entertaining episode. A few things on W system are confirmed.
+But find it a bit messy than usual. Too many things happened and added some random stuffs.

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Oct 26, 2009 12:53 PM

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henshinkamen said:


One of the girl shotaro met caled Queen. Shotaro himself is the Joker, I suppose if we would have Ace, King and Jack we would have JAKQ perhaps? (another of ishinomori creation). Dunno why but i feel that this series would have some parody of older tokusastu show.
Talking about the skull rider for the new movie and kikaider look of double plus the scarf revival on the franchise.


it's funny how Kamen Rider W has more references to past shows than Decade.
Oct 26, 2009 1:53 PM

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Unless there is a king and an ace I think its just us overthinking it. I don't think the kikaider look of Heat Toriga is intentional. The colors are reversed too.

But yes, the scarf is being revived.
Oct 26, 2009 5:07 PM

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Nope not hito and toriga, double himself is the kikaider look. Well the new memory that double use might remind us to something though... although i don't think it's intentional.

Well you're right that i over thinking that one...

BTW i don't really get what is a Boke and how does it apply to that scene?
Oct 26, 2009 6:40 PM

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Boke is a word for stupid, fool, idiot.

Phil was acting like one and Aki just congratulated him as if he was doing a comedy act, as a joke.
Oct 26, 2009 10:59 PM

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Nope not hito and toriga, double himself is the kikaider look. Well the new memory that double use might remind us to something though... although i don't think it's intentional.

Well you're right that i over thinking that one...

BTW i don't really get what is a Boke and how does it apply to that scene?


The "walk into a wall" gag is pretty common for Japanese boke comedians. XD

Speaking of Japanese comedians, W has had quite a few... The detective who massags/scratches himself, Mikio Jinno, is one (Nadagi Takeshi). Watcherman, the guy with the long face and the crazy curly hair is another. That's Nasubi! I've seen him playing an otaku in a few dramas, like Densha Otoko. I'm sure there's more, but those are the two I recognized right away.

However, the actor playing episodes 7-8's Dopant is one of my absolute FAVE comedians: Katagiri Jin! He's one half of the comedy duo The Rahmens who some people might know from the Japanese Mac vs PC commercials, or from the "Japanese Tradition" series of spoof videos (all of which you can video on YouTube). The best known of those is the sushi one. Katagiri is the guy with pulled-back long hair and the glasses. The other half of the Rahmens is the "star" of the sushi video, who sits next to him (Kobayashi Kentaro).

Needless to say, I am VERY EXCITED for episode 8! XD

So, yeah, once you know about the comedian thing, you can understand the "boke" comment, and why Akiko is such a boke all the time. XD
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Oct 28, 2009 12:47 AM

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I almost forgot about the guy who played the Money Dopant. I knew he's a well-known comedian/actor as well.
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Oct 28, 2009 4:34 PM

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You know, that teacher could help W big time, if he wanted:

Oct 28, 2009 5:21 PM

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lol! W is crazy, then. It's kind of picking up where Decade left off with the epic guest stars. XD Though... I guess not everyone thinks popular comedians are epic. XD
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Oct 28, 2009 6:12 PM

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Unfortunately, thy didn't give him a good role. He could be a policeman or another PI, since Sharivan (the character in the first pic) is a Space Sheriff. Being a teacher will make him disappear soon.
Oct 29, 2009 10:35 PM

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Oct 29, 2009 10:43 PM

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Maybe they get their info through a japanese version of gossip girl XDDDDDD

But hey, you know how it is, the teenagers somehow a world of their own. Since Shota is too old to be in their circles, he needs people with info from the inside. It isn't hard for a teenager to know the trends, urban legends and even stuff about the most popular or strangest fellows.
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Maybe they get their info through a japanese version of gossip girl XDDDDDD

But hey, you know how it is, the teenagers somehow a world of their own. Since Shota is too old to be in their circles, he needs people with info from the inside. It isn't hard for a teenager to know the trends, urban legends and even stuff about the most popular or strangest fellows.


I actually understand those two and where they get their info, but what about Nasubi and Santa?
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Oct 29, 2009 10:52 PM

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No, you weren't the only one who immediately thought that when that thing happened. XD
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Oct 29, 2009 11:02 PM

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Everybody tought of that.

It seems like Santa lives in the streets, or at least roams a lot, so he knows rumors about stuff. Watcherman seems to be a professional info dealer, so he must have his own info network.
Nov 1, 2009 11:18 AM

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Episode 8:
Katagiri Jin! Katagiri Jin! WEEEEEEEEE!!! XD (First time I have ever been excited to see an actor appear in a Kamen Rider series. Usually it's the other way around: seeing a Kamen Rider act in another series),
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ep 8
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Man, episode 8 brings me back to my High School days as a Bboy. In a crew of like 15+ guys and only one girl, lol.

@CCZilla:
Music had a lot to do with it. I've heard some random midi mix tracks, but the one they used just made it cheesy.
Nov 17, 2009 5:20 PM

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What, no comments for episode 9?

It was lackluster, admittedly. Quite a random way of getting W into the Sonozaki household. I suppose next episode he'll stumble upon their "secret" or at least a clue that they have a secret. What were they trying to do with Shotarou and Kirihiko anyways?
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Nov 17, 2009 8:36 PM

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Sorry, boss, I was feeling lazy XD

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Nov 24, 2009 12:11 AM

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Episode 10: MEH.

They pretty much gave them every clue possible that the Sonozaki family is the source of the Dopant, yet THEY DIDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. >_<

GAH. Half-boiled is RIGHT!
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Nov 27, 2009 11:59 PM

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After watching ep 10 i'm starting to wonder how would they develop it for the entire +-48 episodes. I wonder if W would have more than one group of enemy (other families maybe?).

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