Aldnoah.Zero Season One
chickenonthepan said: Really? You are the only one who make this assumption... Richness and luxury are what she was joking about. Hm, I thought that it was partially true too. You don't make such jokes unless you think about such stuff. That is normal in her situation. I guess, it's kinda hard to bring up a teenage brother all alone. HopeLight said: It was Yuki joking around and being delusional (she reads people so 'well' she made a simulation that traumatized a girl she knew had a bad experience with that robot she employed and then she was clueless about her reaction) because she wants to be rich and luxurious. The only girl who likes Inaho is Inko, and there's a reason for it -in the Archivez- and it's her fault Rayet's psyche was pushed this far. I agree that it was a really bad misjudgement to insert Nikoleras in the simulation. She knew that this girl was present during that fight, so it was simply too cruel. Stupid too, since a sole kat obviously can't do anything against the monstrosity that is Nikoleras. It can be explained by her wanting to teach a new cadet a lesson, but the way to do it was wrong. Hm. Could you' please, remind in a few words, what was the deal with Inko? I like Inko, by the way. She is underdevelopped, but she seems to be a good friend and a hard-working pilot. It's a pity that she will most likely stay friendzoned. |
HopeLight said: Yuki pushed and projected things since the beginning in episode 4. Misunderstanding the situation and being wrong isn't new to her. She's so clueless that she picked the worst program with Rayet which triggered her breakdown. You're giving her too much credit when she was unable to read the girl since the beginning. Her expectations were completely wrong by the end of the episode. It's the director telling people "it's not this kind of show." I'll continue watching and enjoying how they fuck with the viewers expectations because I like it. She is wrong about Rayet, true. But is she wrong about Inaho? You can't tell. Rayet is a completely strange person to her, but Inaho is her closest person. She sure understand him, partly. She is not a psychologist to read emotions from a stranger... What she assumes about Rayet is false doesn't mean that what she talks about Inaho is false. If you look back, Yuki always trust Inaho when he makes decision during battles. She even tell: "his reckless moves are usually correct". So I think she understand her brother enough. PrincessxDeath is a sure thing. yeah, wait until next ep. I think 99.99999% chance is that you will be disappointed. You can watch episode 1 again. PrincessXDeath was a sure thing back there. |
HopeLight said: HopeLight said: Maybe not the next episode but soon. Ok, so watch the second season and wait for it. |
| Rayet/Slaine Darzana/Marito Inko/Inaho |
Thess said: Rayet/Slaine Darzana/Marito Inko/Inaho Is that your pairing now? =.= HimeXDeath for you then. |
chickenonthepan said: Is that your pairing now? =.= Yes, I used to like Slaine/Asseylum (I still think it's cute and the fanart is great, but Rayet and Slaine have a more interesting potential!) and Yuki/Marito but she's way too young and Darzana has more juicy backstory to offer. chickenonthepan said: HimeXDeath for you then. No! I don't want her to die because while she's far from my favorite character, I like her: Asseylum/Earth. It's official she's in love with Earth. |
deadoptimist said: Hm, I thought that it was partially true too. You don't make such jokes unless you think about such stuff. That is normal in her situation. I guess, it's kinda hard to bring up a teenage brother all alone. While I don't particulary disagree... not necessarily. You can joke about "usual way" of things. I suggest a new pairing again: Asseylum x Death x Rayet This is triagle , where Asseylum cheats Death. ;) Though I'm starting to feel that Death isn't far away from Rayet's mind either... |
| Next week Inaho will likely save the princess just like she saved Slaine in the past. After that, they'll both confess their love to each and live happily ever after until hime-sama dies, this time for real, 2 episodes later. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
HopeLight said: Misunderstanding the situation and being wrong isn't new to her. She's so clueless that she picked the worst program with Rayet which triggered her breakdown. Had some more time to actually read other people's posts... If I were an instructor, I would have chosen that simulation too. Why? Rayet just didn't seem to know her boundaries. In a situation like that it is clear that what ever simulation training she's got under her belt, she will make mistakes and mistakes lead dying. So was it mistake? I know Yuki seemed clueless about Rayet... but Yuki was the one to save her from Trillram. Edit: Lol. While I read HopeLight's post, I missed yours deadoptimist about Yuki and Rayet. Well, it was cruel, but war is cruel. And Rayet was pushing too much. So it was also effective way to force realism in the game. You never know what happens in the war zone. Edit2: Though if I were the instructor, I might have stopped the simulation when Rayet got too freaked out. Nothing good comes out that either. |
nirunaruAug 31, 2014 3:13 PM
nirunaru said: I suggest a new pairing again: Asseylum x Death x Rayet This is triagle , where Asseylum cheats Death. ;) Though I'm starting to feel that Death isn't far away from Rayet's mind either... Hmm. Maybe. But I think that at the moment Asseylum x medallion x Rayet are an item. nirunaru said: Edit: Lol. While I read HopeLight's post, I missed yours deadoptimist about Yuki and Rayet. Well, it was cruel, but war is cruel. And Rayet was pushing too much. So it was also effective way to force realism in the game. You never know what happens in the war zone. Nah, I disagree here. Nikoleras was a really bad choice for someone Yuki didn't know. Bringing up something so terrifying and so recent was obvioulsy potentially dangerous. And Nikoleras was so hard to kill, that it was useless in a simulation of solo fight. Rayet didn't boast or nag too much, she simply asked to let her shoot at different difficulty level. She, probably, wanted to relieve stress or, maybe, even to be praised. It is possible that Yuki wanted to teach her a lesson, but making it a potentially painful lesson was unnecessary. An adult shouldn't harm an already disturbed kid. Also you'd expect her to be a bit more attentive to a new recruit. She had just said that there can be "openings" very soon. To me it looked like a really sad example of a person broken even more because of neglect. Sure, Rayet tears herself apart herself, but help wasn't necessary. Also it wasn't shown, but did they even try to help her after that screaming? |
| Thinking more carefully, there is a little chance that Asseylum will end up with Slaine anyway. Thess maybe right, Slaine is setting up to be a revolutionary hero. If he is manipulated by Saazbaum, he has a great chance becoming an antagonist. But it is the opposite, Saazbaum tells him the truth (or half of the truth), so he can learn from Saazbaum. But then, who is the one he must take out? Asseylum, of course. So his next struggle will be how to overcome his affection for Asseylum for the greater cause. That would make him MUCH more interesting. Seem like a have found Saline's development for my theory about second cour after all. :D |
chickenonthepan said: Thinking more carefully, there is a little chance that Asseylum will end up with Slaine anyway. Thess maybe right, Slaine is setting up to be a revolutionary hero. If he is manipulated by Saazbaum, he has a great chance becoming an antagonist. But it is the opposite, Saazbaum tells him the truth (or half of the truth), so he can learn from Saazbaum. But then, who is the one he must take out? Asseylum, of course. So his next struggle will be how to overcome his affection for Asseylum for the greater cause. That would make him MUCH more interesting. Seem like a have found Saline's development for my theory about second cour after all. :D In my theory Slaine becomes a revolutionary hero and be part of the restructure of Mars system into something cleaner and less feudal, Asseylum stays on Earth as Seylum and never reveals she survived the assassination plot to leave the Vers bloodline perish from memory (that's the best case scenario, the worst case is that she dies). So I don't see them ending up together based on this character arc. They have a fair chance simply because they are the most popular pairing and the second half scenario is still being developed. Besides my theory is just a theory who knows what will happen. I am having trouble to see Asseylum romantically involved with anyone recently. She seems more a ethereal saint-icon without those longings. |
chickenonthepan said: Thinking more carefully, there is a little chance that Asseylum will end up with Slaine anyway. Thess maybe right, Slaine is setting up to be a revolutionary hero. If he is manipulated by Saazbaum, he has a great chance becoming an antagonist. But it is the opposite, Saazbaum tells him the truth (or half of the truth), so he can learn from Saazbaum. But then, who is the one he must take out? Asseylum, of course. So his next struggle will be how to overcome his affection for Asseylum for the greater cause. That would make him MUCH more interesting. Seem like a have found Saline's development for my theory about second cour after all. :D Oh.... That would be amazing! |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
deadoptimist said: nirunaru said: I suggest a new pairing again: Asseylum x Death x Rayet This is triagle , where Asseylum cheats Death. ;) Though I'm starting to feel that Death isn't far away from Rayet's mind either... Hmm. Maybe. But I think that at the moment Asseylum x medallion x Rayet are an item. Ah, so we were wrong to think that the whole attempted murder(let's assume that for the sake of the triangle) was motivated by vengeance toward Vers. It was all about the medallion. Hmmm... deadoptimist said: [/quote]nirunaru said: Edit: Lol. While I read HopeLight's post, I missed yours deadoptimist about Yuki and Rayet. Well, it was cruel, but war is cruel. And Rayet was pushing too much. So it was also effective way to force realism in the game. You never know what happens in the war zone. Nah, I disagree here. Nikoleras was a really bad choice for someone Yuki didn't know. Bringing up something so terrifying and so recent was obvioulsy potentially dangerous. And Nikoleras was so hard to kill, that it was useless in a simulation of solo fight. Rayet didn't boast or nag too much, she simply asked to let her shoot at different difficulty level. She, probably, wanted to relieve stress or, maybe, even to be praised. It is possible that Yuki wanted to teach her a lesson, but making it a potentially painful lesson was unnecessary. An adult shouldn't harm an already disturbed kid. Also you'd expect her to be a bit more attentive to a new recruit. She had just said that there can be "openings" very soon. To me it looked like a really sad example of a person broken even more because of neglect. Sure, Rayet tears herself apart herself, but help wasn't necessary. Also it wasn't shown, but did they even try to help her after that screaming? This is one reason I think that children have no place in the war zone. But I'm a bit realist in this case. We don't want Rayet to have the same fate as the numerous other Kataprakt pilots. And I don't think it is impossible to win Nikoleras in battle. Rayet knows its weak point the same as Inaho, to lose your ability think is the same as losing your life in this situation. So I rather hard lessons than death. Though I agree that Yuki should stopped the simulation when Rayet got too agitated. Well the rate they are losing pilots, they have opening in the next episode. :D |
nirunaruSep 1, 2014 1:39 AM
nirunaru said: This is one reason I think that children have no place in the war zone. But I'm a bit realist in this case. We don't want Rayet to have the same fate as the numerous other Kataprakt pilots. And I don't think it is impossible to win Nikoleras in battle. Rayet knows its weak point the same as Inaho, to lose your ability think is the same as losing your life in this situation. So I rather hard lessons than death. Though I agree that Yuki should stopped the simulation when Rayet got too agitated. Well the rate they are losing pilots, they have opening in the next episode. :D So anyone want a time leap for the second cour? I mean in the second cour, all characters should grow up, at least they will be 18-19 years old. It will be interesting to see them like that. |
chickenonthepan said: So anyone want a time leap for the second cour? I mean in the second cour, all characters should grow up, at least they will be 18-19 years old. It will be interesting to see them like that. Triple hurray for that idea. |
HopeLight said: After I finally watched the subs, I understand why people assume Inaho has romantic feelings for the princess. All his sister does is her interpretation of Inaho's reasons of listening to Asseylum because she notices he has a happy/enthusiastic face (which was mistranslated as "cloud nine" out nowhere when the label of the face wasn't smitten or romantic at fucking all: this is very specific, his sister doesn't say he's looking smitten or in love. She's just thinking excuses to get some soap opera exaggeration), missing the context of why he approached her all the time and that he's showing her the weapons they have. His feelings are ambiguous at best. Yuki was wrong once -ep. 4- because she pushed something that wasn't there. Inaho could be listening and be happy because he's learning information of Mars to defeat them and have a fighting chance to survive. It's meaningful he's showing her weapons but he's not present for her when she's going to eat or to compliment her dress. You should pay attention to what's show. A guy in love would not just stick to business as Inaho does. Inko's feelings were the only ones confirmed so far. For some reason Inaho calls to his sister "Penivia" |
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