Aldnoah.Zero Season One
HopeLight said: chickenonthepan said: If things is as you say, things will go bad, really bad. A director has a right to change script as he plz, based on fan favorite. Now that's what called trash. A director's job is create scene and animation to demonstrate the script, not to change it. It's script writer's job. Btw I don't see Inaho has any focus here as the director say. Lol Aoki has always been the head the project, even with Urobuchi writing. He was the one who set the basic premise. It's a feedback of input, output, and change. Takayama is the one who did the screenplay and they are very close. This isn't based on the 'fan favorite', this decision was taken before the show aired: it's in the special program broadcasting the show introduction. That's why I say they could change their plans at any time. I think what he means with "Inaho's focus" has to do with the focus of the plot. In this cour, it's the battles against the knights. Inaho's in charge of beating them, so he means focus on a plot-advanced sense. The second part has another plot... I don't know what it is. 2ch speculates is about Aldnoah mysteries, but it could be the Earth government forces as villain after they get Adlnoah, slave the Princess and they invade Mars. They are introduced in a bad light in those archives and confidential info of the backstory and the show has provided hints they aren't heroic. The conflict started by them who refused to give help at the Mars colonists and then demanded their technology for war-purposes after they only asked for independence. Ray's attitude just sparked more conflicts, but they were the instigators. Hope, just how much of the Earth government forces as villains is pure speculation right now? From what we've seen, and from what was described by Rayet in this latest episode, the Martians are no less evil than what you described. They sport an ancient feudal system that follows the basis of "Might is right" whereby anyone appointed by the Emperor can be made a successor to the throne (hence the attempted assassination of the princess), and will revel in all the power and fortune that the successor of Aldnoah is entitled. You see all the Knights coming down to earth just to invade their lands for their own, how does that show the ideal of "only asked for independence"? Where's the source of your information anyway? Pray do post your links, or are those sources also pure speculation? Thus far there has been little information out about the Earth faction, apart from the fact that they were badly beaten down in the previous war 15 years ago, and that they are getting their asses handed to them now. If anything, it's been implied that the only reason why the Martians stopped their invasion of the Earth 15 years ago was because their gate between Vers and Mars was destroyed by some attack or other. |
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HopeLight said: I can continue, if you want. Please do. It's a pain in the behind when there aren't any sources for this kind of information outside of Japan, and no one willing to share either. I'm seriously interested in the back story and the political intrigue that led to the anime being what it is right now. This interests me way more than a sad romance that some of the fan base are trying to tout this show as. I'm assuming that you haven't translated the portion about the discovery of Aldnoah and the part where the Earth government wanted to acquire and weaponize it yet? And yes, I distinctly remember someone in the show having already mentioned that the throne could be granted by the Emperor to anyone (mentioned by the Martians when they assumed Asseylum was dead if I recall correctly), and that the Emperor was the one to grant his people the power of Aldnoah (namely his Knights). |
L-RyoshiAug 24, 2014 9:33 PM
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HopeLight said: L-Ryoshi: I can understand that. But could you be patient? I'm about to go to bed. I'll just drop this bomb before I leave: Slaine's father defected for "reasons unknown" in 1999 to Mars. Of course, he wanted to research Aldnoah, but the motive is a secret even in these archives, so it could be something about UFE dirty laundry (which would explain Slaine's wariness in general) or perhaps it's something related to Vers royal family. Doctor Troyard seems to be set up as quite a mysterious key player. That was in one of the Rayregalia's profiles (in the War is Coming). Ray is a pacifist -unlike his son- and they discovered all this technology when Cold War raged. His concern was about the use of it. It's ironic knowing it was used for war anyway. Only Vers family can rule because they are the only ones with administrator access to Aldnoah. Ray can't grant access to someone else with his same "administrator password." It's only his descendants. So this hypothetical contender is a descendant or someone who can control Adlnoah too. Excellent stuff. No worries mate, just continue translating at your own pace. It's just good to have a reliable source of information here instead of pure speculative arguments. We highly appreciate your efforts ;) As for a little push back into the discussion (albeit off-topic now), the assumption would be that Dr. Troyard is trying to unlock the said Administrator password so as to grant access of Aldnoah to everyone (well, mainly the Martians), which would explain a lot of gaps and allow us to see where this show is heading somewhat. |
L-RyoshiAug 24, 2014 9:47 PM
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| And Martians come to Earth, kill Terrans like insects because they solely want to gain "independence"? Wow. Just wow. AS far as the story goes, I can't see the Earth forces become evil happen. At least they cannot be as evil as Martian. And after being bombarded and losing everywhere, they have no manpower or resources to counter attack now. And must I remind you that it's the Earth side who seek to negotiate with Mars, that results in the visit of Hime. UEF protected her, it's Martians who want to kill her to start the war. And the Earth force is who put evacuating civilians on the top priority. I don't see them as bad guys at all. The research at Tanegashima may have something to play, but not enough to bring them into the dark side. The story only follow your route if they put out some asspull. And the story will become worse and worse. (I think you are imagining a Gundam SEED Destiny ver. 2..) And as far as the story goes, Slaine is more and more likely to become a misguided antagonist. The director stated that "he is a nice boy with misfortune". He is nice and unlucky, that's why he is misguided. This kind of antagonist is more interesting than pure bad guy for no reason. He can lead the story as a antagonist just fine, not to say more effective. He is to passive to the situation as a good boy. Even if you bring words of some staff that "Slaine is a protagonist". Yes, he is a protagonist in the first season, none doubt about it. But dare hi to spoil things like "Slaine will be a antagonist later". None is fool enough to spoil like that. Viewers have to see for themselves. |
| I read these information somewhere so I'm not really interested. But anyway, the martian also started the war 15 years ago. I think it's the father generation... God, if they give Slaine god's power, I will drop this. OR not if he become more complex and less obsessive with Hime. What is the point of duo lead if one get all the attention? Maybe blame the bad writing as always then. P/s I have a feeling that they put it another way around. Slaine is more likely to be main protagonist and key character of season 1 for me. |
Just_ChickenAug 24, 2014 10:14 PM
| Saazbaum/Slaine Dad OTP. On a serious speculation plot note, I think if Slaine gets the Aldnoah Access and Asseylum is dead, he'll make it so nobody can access to Aldnoah and make people coexist as equals that way and stop toying with alien tech. So, you knoooow: Aldnoah. ZERO as end game. |
ThessAug 24, 2014 10:23 PM
chickenonthepan said: I read these information somewhere so I'm not really interested. But anyway, the martian also started the war 15 years ago. I think it's the father generation... God, if they give Slaine god's power, I will drop this. OR not if he become more complex and less obsessive with Hime. What is the point of duo lead if one get all the attention? Maybe blame the bad writing as always then. P/s I have a feeling that they put it another way around. Slaine is more likely to be main protagonist and key character of season 1 for me. Highly doubt that Slaine is the one with the Godly powers. More likely than not Dr. Troyard may have set it up so Slaine's DNA, or some other item of Slaine's, holds the secret data to unlocking the code. Like maybe he's a fail safe and they need to bleed him dry to synthesize the metaphorical password or something (yep, watched that stupid TMNT movie). My actual bet though is on the necklace that Slaine gave to Asseylum. And for that matter it could be that even Slaine doesn't know what he did when he gave the trinket to the Princess. Given how all the experimenting with Aldnoah powers is on Inaho and the Princesses' side, I wouldn't count such a plot-pusher to be too far-fetched. I mean, why else would they show the Orange Kat with the Aldnoah Light? |
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L-Ryoshi said: And yes, I distinctly remember someone in the show having already mentioned that the throne could be granted by the Emperor to anyone (mentioned by the Martians when they assumed Asseylum was dead if I recall correctly), and that the Emperor was the one to grant his people the power of Aldnoah (namely his Knights). Hmm... actually I was thinking couple of pages ago the same thing. It seems really stupid of killing Asseylum before they have figured out how to continue the Aldonoah containing genetic line. If Asseylums gene-carrying parent is dead, the Verse emperor is a bit old to produce a new heir. Well... miracle happens. :P Have there been any information about Asseylums parents? |
L-Ryoshi said: My actual bet though is on the necklace that Slaine gave to Asseylum. And for that matter it could be that even Slaine doesn't know what he did when he gave the trinket to the Princess. Given how all the experimenting with Aldnoah powers is on Inaho and the Princesses' side, I wouldn't count such a plot-pusher to be too far-fetched. I have been thinking also that the necklace might be some kind of key or a memory card containing information about Aldnoah. What ever it is it will be a key player in the plot... chickenonthepan said: IGod, if they give Slaine god's power, I will drop this. OR not if he become more complex and less obsessive with Hime :D Well, I'm actually feeling that Slaine seems to be a bit powerless at the time. But then again he wields the fandom genereted charisma superpower. ;) Although it if unlikely to save his life. :) Is he obsessive? Hmm... I understand that he is fiercely loyal to Asseylum, becouse she has been the only or one of the few who actually treated Slaine decently at Vers. And how long has he been there... |
HopeLight said: I can continue, if you want me to. Thank you for translating that site. :) It was really intreresting... I'm not minding at all a bit off-topic, maybe it stems some new ideas. :) Was there anything said that when did Slaines father die and what exactly happened that the hypergate at the Moon got blown up? Been speculating and pondering about Slaines father, but I have a bit too little to go on. |
nirunaruAug 25, 2014 1:50 AM
HopeLight said: I think it's the same with the Princess and her necklace and her grandfather and his cane. Those seem to be devices that are commanded by their genetic code. This will be enough for our Evil Count to stop a meteor bombardment and snatch the charm away. The official sites and merch labels it "Slaine's charm/amulet." Provides it certain ownership. Whoa, you're probably right, and they need an intermediary device to access drives. Thanks for the translations, by the way. It seems that they rely on fans being familiar with the additional materials. Also I agree that it seems likely that Trilliam was sent to recruit Slaine. He seemed much more inclined to talk to the dirty terran than the other knights. I wonder, if Slaine was aware, that Trilliam was a guest of Cruhteo, not one of his people. As for some of the points addressed in recent discussion, I seriously doubt that either Slaine or Inaho will die before the final showdown - the plot seems to be constructed around the contrast between these two. Maybe princess' death could be turned into a plot device though, but that would be a massive change for the universe of the show, and the pacing has been too slow so far to believe in the posibility of such an approach from the team. Though that could give a good theme for the second cour. The loss of the current aldnoah dynasty would make dr. Troyard's research much more important. Also Saazbaum, probably, wants all the power for himself, without sharing with teenage pacifistic princesses. What I find strange, is the idea of the first part being dedicated to Inaho. He doesn't get any decent development, so what will happen, if they plan to focus on him less... Slaine turning into antagonist seems likely, at least for some time. I am not sure what to think of it. On one hand, his story is too dark for him to stay such a nice person, on the other hand so far his gentleness has been the main appeal of him as a character. And we know in advance, that he can't beat Inaho in direct confrontation. |
deadoptimistAug 25, 2014 4:34 AM
HopeLight said: He was alive 5 years ago, when he defected to Mars. His reasons are mysterious but he's a key player and Slaine's been said to be the "key character". 1999: Gilzeria declares all-out war with the Earth Federation. Okay, so this means lieutenant Marito is about the same age as Cruhteo around 35 and 40. But I'm kind of still confused, why he is only surviving veteran from the war. There have been commanding officers in the earlier episodes who appear to be about the same age... What about retired veterans? I guess he meant, that he is the only survivor from Tanegashima and Vers Kataplact combined with Heaven's Falling obliterated the troops from Japan? Or were all Earths armies gathered in Tanegashima and at Moon base? And the everyone who witnessed the Aldnoah drive Kataphracts in action, were killed and Tanegashima report got buried. I'm still pondering about Saazbaum's remark about Slaine's father. Does he mean, that it is ironic that Slaine chooses too to oppose the conspiracy or was Saazbaum and Dr. Troyard on same side? Was he doing research for Saazbaum? Or was he double-agent spying for both? It would explaine why the necklace is in Slaine's possession? Slaine was born on Earth...They arrived to Vers five years ago... Slaine is now 16, and if I understood correctly he was about two years old when they left Earth? And after that they lived aboard a Martian ship orbiting Earth under the observation of a Mars Knight... Saazbaum? So they lived at least one year on Earth after Heaven's Fall, right? So does this mean that Deaucallion's construction might have been started by Dr. Troyard? Did Saazbaum caught him as a double-agent and that's why Asseylum's grandfather so readily believed that Slaine was also a spy... Hmm... And Yuki's and Inoho's parents died probably only couple of years earlier, because they live together and were not adopted - though it is possible that they moved to live together with Yuki, when she was old enough to take care of both of them. At least it seems unlikely that their deaths had anything to do with Dr. Troyard's defecting to Mars... Oh well, thanks for explaining the timeline HopeLight. :) |
Thess said: Saazbaum/Slaine Dad OTP. On a serious speculation plot note, I think if Slaine gets the Aldnoah Access and Asseylum is dead, he'll make it so nobody can access to Aldnoah and make people coexist as equals that way and stop toying with alien tech. So, you knoooow: Aldnoah. ZERO as end game. He should die in your case, so that none will have access to Aldnoah anymore. Easiest way to make sure the Aldnoah Access never goes to anyone. Or he wants to be another Emperor that FORCES people exist equally? He will die in that case too, sooner or later, just not as peacefully as the first case. And HopeLight, he was referring to the poster depicting Orange with mysterious light from it, (MAL A/Z avatar) i think. |
Just_ChickenAug 25, 2014 6:35 AM
Thess said: Saazbaum/Slaine Dad OTP. If Cruhteo makes it alive to Deucallion... There is also possibilities for Marito x Cruhteo. :D Ah, he could revive the light in his lovely green eyes and wake him up to see the world as a more beautiful place... Right. Like that's gonna happen. |
nirunaru said: Thess said: Saazbaum/Slaine Dad OTP. If Cruhteo makes it alive to Deucallion... There is also possibilities for Marito x Cruhteo. :D Ah, he could revive the light in his lovely green eyes and wake him up to see the world as a more beautiful place... Right. Like that's gonna happen. Nya nya, shonen nai make me happy. |
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| So from what Im reading from Hopelights posts, Professor Rayregalia used the bad situation of the colonists to build his own personal fascist dictatorship. Nice. |
Raziel1991Aug 25, 2014 10:58 AM
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Raziel1991 said: So from what Im reading from Hopelights posts, Professor Rayregalia used the bad situation of the colonists to build his own personal fascist dictatorship. Nice. Ray is not as good as Hopelight said. He got Aldnoah power and kept it for himself. Other people wanted a piece of his power? Swear loyal to him. He made himself a king. Certainly UFE couldn't agree with that. So it's natural for Eath to cut all communication with Mars. (Is that what the US usually does all the time) We have no clue what his son did with the martian politic. All we know, he declared war on UFE and died. He just had a short time on the throne. The system corrupts because it's bad itself. Anarchy is never good. As for the speculation about Slaine and Inaho working together, I think they will work together at the end to defeat Saazbaum, but not before that. Slaine may be good at repairing his own plane (it's pretty minor repairing btw), but it's years too early for him to build a robot himself. Do you know how many engineering study is required to build a simple functioning robot? If he learn more, he can build a kat for Inaho in 30 years I think. Still prefer them to be opponents. Inaho can grow more if it goes that way. How can Inaho grow when Slaine is his ally? Watching him and Hime play lovey-dovey is growing I guess. Or getting an Op mech from Slaine and beat the crap out of Martians is growing? |
HopeLight said: Raziel1991 said: So from what Im reading from Hopelights posts, Professor Rayregalia used the bad situation of the colonists to build his own personal fascist dictatorship. Nice. He was the leader of the colonists and took control as it's natural when his pleas weren't listened. His system became pretty corrupted, but it was a necessity during those first years. His son ruined what he built and put a war-policy he's always avoided. Then the UE did the right thing when they tried to stop their independence. After all, allowing the birth of a nation with far superior tech that could utterly destroy earth inmediatly is not a smart idea. And then we all know how Martian society works, Rayet explained it in this episode, if we take that into account its impossible to really sympathize with the martians. On top of that the anime itself makes you hate the martians since they are all flat villains that are stupidly evil and racist in the hammiest way possible. Aside from the princess, the martians are portrayed as genocidial mass murderers and UE the victims. |
Raziel1991Aug 25, 2014 1:23 PM
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| Yes I was referring to the two posters that had been revealed way before the show even began with the Orange Kat pulsing a strange light which didn't seem like the color of it's natural lamps. About to hit the sack, but still questions to ask. If I understood the timeline correctly, Ray had actually acceded the throne to Asseylum's father before the Heaven's Fall, which actually exacerbated the problem when the Princesses' dad declared war on Earth. If your analysis on the three generations is correct, that would explain why the Orbital Knights refused to return to Vers. It was simply because they were loyal to the cause of Asseylum's father (which apparently included mass genocide and the conquering of Earth's resources), and due to his untimely death, Ray had to re-ascend the throne, and his peace policies didn't sit well with those "Loyal Knights". Here's the catch though. IF that were true, then the Second Generation Martians' main aim would be the capture and rule of Earth and it's resources. Given that they already possess the power to use Aldnoah, whilst the people of Earth do not (The Ducalion was beyond their expectations, and I'm assuming it was actually Asseylum's father's personal ship), the only reason why they would go through with your speculated Troyard Plot would be because Ray is a pacifist and Saazbaum and a faction of the other knights want to get him out of the way (for risk that he strips them of their powers), and hence they need to find a way to unlock Aldnoah for their own personal use. In all of this theory, the main focus has been on the Martians, and if anything the United Earth forces have been portrayed as the victims here. Now given you did mention before that the UE weren't as good as they were being portrayed (I mean, heck we've hardly had any mention of them since the start of the show), then how can this be explained? That said, I tend to stick with what has been said thus far in the anime. I still believe that Rayet was correct in saying that the Martian's feudal system was barbaric and that most of the Knights are bloodthirsty killers who just want to command and conquer as much of the Earth for themselves as they possibly can. I wouldn't be surprised if we suddenly had internal pocket-wars between the Knights fighting for the same territories in the near future. However, if you were to point me to other source materials that show otherwise (that the Vers aren't as barbaric as I'm seeing them), then that would be greatly welcome. But my theory aside, just how much of that long post you put up was speculation, and how much was backed by actual factual data (interviews, articles, etc). I mean, your theory on Slaine not being entirely human (maybe genetically modified? the way he coughed up fluids in that capsule was unnatural to say the least), was interesting, but you said yourself that it's your theory. I'd like to know how much of the points that you pointed out were actually referable to certain sources, and if possible what those sources are (like the thing about Slaine becoming a mech engineer? Or even that part about the Knights rejecting the Summons?). Thanks in advance Hope, I'm sure we all really appreciated your efforts (I know I do). |
L-RyoshiAug 25, 2014 1:32 PM
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HopeLight said: chickenonthepan: This is a show where a 15 years old somehow is more clever in tactics than adults. Are you going to ask for realism? Asseylum isn't important. She could be shipped off to military stuff and leaving them to talk. Mecha shows has their ways to remove the female characters when it's bromance time. Genius kid can be more clever than most adult if I may say... But Slaine is not a genius from what I have seen. If Slaine suddenly makes him a genius and builds a robot, I call that a total asspull. He has shown not capable of such. It's funny that because he can do a temporary repair for his jet, you regard him as a genius engineer... That's what every jet fighter should know to keep their jet temporary functioning, when coming back for real maintenance. It's a surprise if he has as much scientific knowledge as 1/10000 of Inaho. You can convince me well if Slaine is in a repair team in Cruhteo's castle. But he is not. He even gives Hime wrong information about science. I don't think a main character is not important... But ok, shipping Hime away already, then what? It's hard for Inaho to talk to Slaine because they don't have the same wavelength. Slaine is too reactive and not clever enough. Ep. 7 shows us that very clearly. |
| @ L-Ryoshi http://archive.moe/m/thread/11093640 Here, I give you this link. This guy sums up pretty much all information in A/Z archives without any speculation. There are many stupid people there too, but ignore them. Just focus on important part... The generation things are HopeLight's own speculation. There is no confirmation of that... |
Just_ChickenAug 25, 2014 2:06 PM
HopeLight said: When Slaine is against people using the princess, he's making reference to those old festering conflicts they want to do by using her as excuse somehow. He was never against the Earthlings using the Deucalion. It was the possibility she would become a weapon -because he misunderstood Inaho- that made him hostile. He is devoted to her and her dream: he wants peace just as much as she does. Yes, I agree. HopeLight said: Slaine was 11 when he arrived on Mars. I don't know how trip from Earth to Mars in that rocket lasts.... I'm surprised a kid was sent like that. Slaine's very tough, isn't he? That's why I'm raising my flags about if he's fully human. http://www.space.com/24701-how-long-does-it-take-to-get-to-mars.html. While the shortest distance, when planets are aligned and close, at calculated top speed with our technology travel time is about 39 days, the longest is 289 days. How long it takes to reach Mars depends on where in their orbits the two planets lie when a mission is launched and from the used propulsion system. The traveling in reality takes longer that 39 days, the actual route can't be a straight line, it works only in theory. Then again spacecraft was manned, maneuvers are possible during the flight. In reality Marine 7 took 128 days (1969, flyby) and Mars Express Orbiter (2003) 201 days to reach Mars. All recent missions took over than 200 days. It seemed that in Aldnoah they used some kind of stacis/sleep pod technology judging from the liquid Slaine was coughing out of his lungs, so they used technology that isn't familiar to us. It is possible that Slaine and his father were sleeping the whole trip from Earth to Mars and only the pods were ejected from main spacecraft to crash land on Mars. The crashing part might been due to an emergency, Slaine almost drowned after landing from the liquids in the pod... |
nirunaruAug 25, 2014 3:51 PM
chickenonthepan said: But ok, shipping Hime away already, then what? It's hard for Inaho to talk to Slaine because they don't have the same wavelength. Slaine is too reactive and not clever enough. Ep. 7 shows us that very clearly. I think Slaine is far from stupid. There are at least two kinds of intelligent people: the hardworking normal-type and then the total ingenious-type. Slaine is probable the former and Inaho is definitely the latter. But then again Inaho is Ingenious in one aspect but a bit lacking at other areas while Slaine is more evenly balanced. Being emotional isn't a problem, in fact it might be great asset, if it doesn't cloud your judgement and ruin your ability to think and listen. Actually with AS types honesty, emotional response and being politely unfiltered works very well: you just need to be really straightforward and honest and forget all about the usual social quickstep. :P I don't see reason why it wouldn't work with Inaho. Slaine was quick to follow and understand Inaho's ideas. The way they bickered during the fight, proved actually that they might be really compatible. I think Inaho was quite impressed, how Slaine maneuvered his batmobil. :D And mutual respect is essential for them to be compatible. |
nirunaruAug 25, 2014 3:45 PM
chickenonthepan said: By that time it will be too late to drop it... But yeah, Slaine is portrayed as the marty while Inaho is still in blank state!I read these information somewhere so I'm not really interested. But anyway, the martian also started the war 15 years ago. I think it's the father generation... God, if they give Slaine god's power, I will drop this. OR not if he become more complex and less obsessive with Hime. What is the point of duo lead if one get all the attention? Maybe blame the bad writing as always then. P/s I have a feeling that they put it another way around. Slaine is more likely to be main protagonist and key character of season 1 for me. |
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HopeLight said: Generation is my extrapolation of the information we know justified in the information we have since the conflict and timeline began; I arranged it to be easily understood. It's not speculation. Still, the generations things is your own interpretation of the official info. There is no info about whether the first generation wanted war or not, or the third generation is all peace-loving people like Asseylum, and weather the second generation was raised in the condition like you say. The official info doesn't have such things. They are all your interpretation based on those information. All the pure official info is on my link.That's all what we could know. |
HopeLight said: chickenonthepan said: Still, the generations things is your own interpretation of the official info. There is no info about whether the first generation wanted war or not, or the third generation is all peace-loving people like Asseylum, and weather the second generation was raised in the condition like you say. The official info doesn't have such things. They are all your interpretation based on those information. All the pure official info is on my link.That's all what we could know. Basing on parents, grandfathers and current children are not interpretations. Ray is a grandfather, Asseylum's father, and Asseylum. The show supplies you the environment of the third generation. You deal with Heavens Fall on Earth, and a prosperous Mars in Slaine's and Asseylum's flashbacks. One person doesn't represent the whole generation, especially the one in highest authority. Ray may be a pacifist but other people of his generation may be not. The may hate UEF because UEF abandoned them on Mars. So when Ray's son called, they replied. You have no prof that the generation followed Ray's son attacking the moon is the first generation or second one, maybe both. (Saazbaum told that they live in the obital castles since father generation). Asseylum loved Earth because Slain taught her many things about Earth. You think other Martian child could be that lucky? No, they will more likely hate Terrans like their parents. Because their parents most likely will teach them to hate Terrans. And finally, saying something based on something is interpreting. As long as your lines are not listed on official sources, they are NOT official. |
vieri32 said: The people in this forum do not know the difference about LOVE AND obsession. Who does not love himself can not love someone. Any rational person knows that Sline not feel love, but rather that he has an obsession about the princess. Well I would say that there are people who have tried to present valid arguments to back up their opinion about Slaine x Asseylum. After all, this is about speculating about romantic inclinations in this show. :) ( At least while there isn't any official pairings in the show) But pitch in your opinion: why do you think Slaine is obsessed in more detail, I'm definitely interested. :) That way we can have better discussion about it. Topic stays interesting, if there are more people with different kinds of opinions. |
HopeLight said: which impressed Count Idiot Who Got Killed. Lol. Well, it isn't clear yet that he was killed. Or did I miss the body? :) |
HopeLight said: nirunaru said: Lol. Well, it isn't clear yet that he was killed. Or did I miss the body? :) Did he sidestep the giant laser sword that vaporized his castle? Maybe it just nicked his arm. ;) (quoting Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail) King Arthur: [after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms] Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left! Black Knight: Yes I have. King Arthur: Look! Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound. |
HopeLight said: nirunaru said: Lol. Well, it isn't clear yet that he was killed. Or did I miss the body? :) Did he sidestep the giant laser sword that vaporized his castle? It will be total asspull if he is alive. Just please the fans but totally bad writing. |
| Seriously I have learned from movies and animes to not trust anybody has died until I have seen the body. These supposedly dead characters popping up are very common... |
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