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Aug 1, 2014 1:17 PM
#401
| Well the covers arent exactly chronological or necessarily has a special meaning in terms of episodes, but i do believe they had caesar on the back of Ichis cover on purpose, i can totally imagine that back cover being how Ichi saw caesar before he left for the west star I mean he has his cloak slung over his back and is about to put on his mask, which he always does outside, so it can only be caesar preparing to leave home or something IDK while i prefer the princess and slaine or whatever, im not overly shipping them, though the MC voice is annoying and somehow i dont really like him, but its 24 episodes so yeah Illl find the other DVD covers and see what is on the back of the others so far, and see if there is a connection IDK Caesar already shows he is determined to keep his promise to her, and i dont see any other reason caesar and ichi were put together if not for some kind of romance, and this show wouldnt be the same without caesar being obsessed with ichi (he is already quite obsessed with her right now after all) Differences doesnt necessary mean relationship differences, it could most likely be just the events happening, but character personalities should be consistent between adaptations, i guess we will see, but Caesar changing sides seems inevitable to me (why else would he be there with ichi?) but the dynamics and the stuff that happens leading and after it would probably be different |
Aug 1, 2014 2:36 PM
#402
| That's good to know. Slaine is just way more interesting than the brick that is Inaho. XD Though I couldn't care less for most of the charas. True, but I can't imagine them doing that on purpose. I really can see it that way too. Exactly, there's no other interpretation. Heck, the guy even has his mask on inside, so he had to have been alone with Ichi to have even had it off. Well Slaine and the princess are the only two charas I even care about (the Martians are way more interesting than the Earthlings). The others (aka the Eathlings) could all be wiped out and I would not care for the most part. XD The MC is and I don't like him either. While it's good, I think if it just had Slaine as the MC and focused on the Orbital Knights dynamics (they obviously aren't buddy-buddy) with each other it would be better. Well, I am tired of the highschooler mains trope too, so that's one reason. XD Caesar is not Caesar unless he is obsessed with Ichi. XD I agree, it's inevitable that Caesar will, I'm just curious with how they do it. |
NiteBloomingRoseAug 2, 2014 12:24 PM
Aug 2, 2014 6:37 AM
#403
| Well personally i think they had Ichi and Caesar in the cover and back on purpose, why wasnt it someone else like Mitsu, instead they had caesar who just had to look like he is going off somewhere Anyway i couldnt find the blu ray in anime shops in shinjuku yet, guess its not that popular even in japan But tomorrow im going to animate ikebukuro, the biggest anime shop in tokyo, they have entire floors for character goods and stuff, maybe ill get to pick up some caesar and ichi goodies lol |
Aug 2, 2014 12:23 PM
#404
| I feel the same. Anyone else could have been used and it even could have been a pic of him that wasn't like that. It just seems to have too much purpose there. Well, I can see why as the story as a whole had problems. That sounds HUGE! I can't imagine a shop like that. XD |
Aug 3, 2014 3:03 AM
#405
| Yeah, I think they should have used tha Caesar shot for the next vol. Damn, I hope you find a copy while your there jfs. Caesar definitely isn't Caesar unless he obsess over Ichi XD. |
Aug 3, 2014 5:00 AM
#406
| Well i got Ichis Vol 4 DVD, and i cant play the special CD until i get back but the booklet has details on characters and notes and stuff which i havent translated, but the character details include their ages The booklet that i got in vol 4 has himiko at 16 years and kenshin as 20, i want to know Ichis age lol, pls dont tell me i have to buy the other sets! That said i also found some NBTF goodies, funnily enough, the caesar ones like his mousepad were sold out while all the other characters were still there (i definitely know he has a mousepad product) I couldnt find any other caesar product as well (i guess the fujoshis grabbed them all Funnily enough, all the NBTF stickers were sold out, except for Jeanne, who still has a stack of stickers left, and her mousepad had alot left too lmao, guessing she isnt popular Ill be going to akihabara tomorrow to see if i can find the other volumes at a discount or some other goodies lol (not necessarily NBTF) Edit: I can also confirm the special CD is an Audio Drama CD , heres hoping the one for next volume involves caesar and Ichi (i think it will) Im guessing it will be a drama CD of what happened between ep 14 until caesar leaves for the west star or something (at least it will be f it involves caesar and ichi) BTW the manga author retweeted a tweet praising the caesar x ichi development in the manga, could it be he is a fan of the pairing? i hope so |
jfsAug 3, 2014 7:36 AM
Aug 3, 2014 12:28 PM
#407
| Oh, really? Good to know. I thought that Himiko was like 15, but eh, close enough. XD So, Kenshin is one year older than Caesar and had that big rivalry with Shingen. Whatever, I just accept it now. XD I do too! I'm thinking she is 17, but I haven't been exactly right. XD Caesar must definitely be popular then. Yeah, well, not surprising she isn't popular. XD Good luck! I really hope it does, but yeah, most likely so. I would say that he is a fan of the pairing, so that's good! |
Aug 4, 2014 1:39 AM
#408
| Do you know who is in the drama CD? Ichi's age was probably in the earlier sets. Glad to see Caesar is popular. I have to say i'm disappointed that Kenshin is that young given his rivalry with Shingen. I also hope he is a fan and not just teasing us. |
Aug 4, 2014 5:31 AM
#409
| Like i said i havent listened to it, but i dont think it involves Caesar and Ichi since it would be spoilerish for ep 9-12 I found out that Ichi is 16 (just the legal age for marriage in japan lol) Dont see why the author would tease us like that, my take is he is just retweeting a tweet that is praising his manga, but heres hoping hes a fan I saw the chara song CDs in akihabara, and i found all of them except caesars, which i guess is sold out (well his songs were the best, esp the second one) |
Aug 4, 2014 11:24 AM
#410
| Indeed. 16!? Well, I did guess that was her age at one time. XD And she's the same age as Himiko. LOL Ah yeah, he could just be retweeting something praising it, but there's a definite chance he's a fan. Caesar's is always sold out! XD (Very true.) |
Aug 7, 2014 12:25 AM
#411
| The blu ray audio drama is nobu and saru and mitsu, hopefully next ones is about caesar and ichi |
Aug 7, 2014 1:11 AM
#412
| Really! Figured as much, hopefully the next one is Ichi X Caesar. |
Aug 7, 2014 9:33 AM
#413
| Well right now the manga is the one to follow.. BTW from the manga mitsuhide the fool spinoff, and from what i understand from the background in the play (and i assume this is the case for the anime as well), Mitsus background is that he wanted to restore the akechi clan and he wanted to take over a clan, and he chose the Oda, (along with kagome and the 3 ninjas), they made a plot to take over the oda something like Mitsu will enter the Oda clan and distinguish himself politically and get in a position toas woo Ichihime and get into an arranged marriage with her, the lords daughter, and marry into the Oda clan, and then slowly bring down nobunaga and Nobuhide (idk by backstabbing or assasinating, apparently that was kagomes plan), therefore taking over the clan But of course he met Ichi and he fell for her or whatever, and somehow kagome died blabla, and after getting to know saru, nobu, and ichi, he decided to be loyal to nobu or whatever, but still wanting to restore the akechi clan He got his just desserts then when Caesar NTR-ed him, more reasons to dislike Mitsu Another thought is that in the manga last chapter, Caesar REALLY looked like the guy fighting king arthur (the hair and dat cloak pattern..) And guinevere is kind of.. alive and has a conciousness like some weird thingy It came across to me, with how old arthur looked, that it was Caesar in his previous life that fought arthur or something for guinevere (arthur looks really old after all) i.e caesar was lancelot or something in his previous life (or a combination or both), after all caesar is confirmed to be 19 and it seems strange for him to already have dueled for a woman Of course its just a theory but with how Caesar and Ichi are stuck together now, it would be cool if Caesar has flashbacks of his past life and about guinevere or something, and he has to choose between reviving her or his love for ichi I mean the manga is that explores the arthur and guinevere thing in detail and seems like it will play an important part so maybe its possible BTW there are some excellent fanfics in japanese, might translate and post it here if i have the time lol |
jfsAug 7, 2014 10:55 AM
Aug 7, 2014 11:09 AM
#414
| Yeah, figures. LOL Oh gosh! Mitsu it figures he had goals like that! Seriously, he's way worse than Caesar was. He'll just take over them with force, not pretend to be an ally (yeah, he did back stab Shingen, but the man was already a goner at Nobu's hand. I doubt he would have killed Shingen if he wasn't dying and giving the Regalia to Nobu). No wonder in the future he'll be with Machiavelli. XD He really did get what he deserved. More reasons to dislike him for sure. BTW, where did you see these pics? Oh, of course she does! XD Hm... That could be it and would make sense. It does seem strange that he has and how he talks about being in so many battles. Way too strange. That would cool and I hope the mangaka does that! I say it's possible too. I would LOVE for you to translate some of the fanfics! <3 |
Aug 7, 2014 8:45 PM
#415
| http://seiga.nicovideo.jp/watch/bk1832?track=nicoa_bk1832 You can read chap 7 raw of the manga here but you have to make an account though its not that hard Well yeah at least caesar was relatively honest about his intentions, not someone who plans to backstab or betray someone from the beginning Ill translate one later when i have the time, i do have an idea which ones are my favorite though, it seems the authors make the fanfics as a series, and many are realistic |
Aug 7, 2014 9:22 PM
#416
| Thank you. :) Yeah, I made an account easy, just my searching skills is what's awful. XD Indeed. Naturally you keep secrets from your enemy, but infiltrating and earning their trust is another thing. Great! I look forward to it! <3 |
Aug 8, 2014 12:06 AM
#417
| well let me know if that guy that fought arthur for guinevere looks like caesar lol |
Aug 8, 2014 12:30 AM
#418
| I can't find it on the site, if I could I would. XD I can't navigate it at all. LOL |
Aug 8, 2014 12:33 AM
#419
| its in the link i posted above.. you just have to click play (make sure ure logged in) |
Aug 8, 2014 12:55 AM
#420
| I kind of suspected that Mitsu was trying something like that. Sadly this makes me hate him more XD... After seeing the chapter again I have to say it ready does look like Caesar. |
Aug 8, 2014 1:02 AM
#421
| Oh! That's it! I thought that was some promotional vid for the site or something. My bad. XD Thanks. :) The more we find out about Mitsu, the more we hate the guy. LOL Edit: I have now seen it. I just have to say that that HAS to be Caesar. That is his signature look and nobody else has that hairstyle or cloak in the series. So yeah, I do believe it is him. And that is definitely the past. Arthur is young, so I think your theory of that being Caesar's past life is right. I can't see it being any other way, TBH. And now, I shall stake a moment to LOL at their future selves. That was HILARIOUS! XD I'm guessing Mitsu and Niccolo are in politics, it would fit. XD |
NiteBloomingRoseAug 8, 2014 1:28 AM
Aug 8, 2014 1:57 AM
#422
| Well since im bored heres one The title is 'Place to return to' (note that there is 3 versions of this , from ichi, caesar, and mitsu POV) I guess i will start with Ichis since its my favorite (note that i dont take any credit for this, since im just translating it) It was the fifth day after Caesar left the mansion that Ichihime received the news 'please let me be alone for a little while' Saying so, I ran into my room and throw myself on the bed. The Oda messenger that had arrived brought the terrible news 'Although Nobunaga successfully rescued Jeanne and returned to Owari, Caesar and Mitsuhide was left behind in the West star' Moreover, Caesar was left behind because he tried to save Mitsuhide Why? He should not know about either my or Mitsuhides feelings. My tears began to overflow Who am i crying for? Mitsuhide? or Caesar? 'Ah' Suddenly, for some reason, i raised my face and saw Caesars portrait on the wall 'He has a bad hobby' - thats what the ladies in waiting whispers behind is back Now isnt the time to cry I remembered Caesars words the day before he left 'When im not here, you will be in charge here since you are my wife' 'yes, please leave it to me' i had told him 'Ichihime-sama there is someone here from the Takeda that wishes to meet you', i heard Chachas voice 'Yes , i will be right there' i said while wiping my tears That morning, when i had asked Caesar to make his decision. He had chosen me without even a moments hesitation. After he left to Owari, only after the tension was relieved, i had realised something. I had all but condemned him to something terrible- to betray his lord, surely in his homeland he has important people who he loves. After all, i had married him to protect my own. At that time, i was only thinking about how to protect the Oda clan. I recall the contents of the marriage argreement- there was not a single line about him protecting the Oda from the west star. I had no right to give him that choice And yet even so... When Caesar returns that day, he only greeted my briefly, and went into his work room quickly, without eating dinner. I had looked at the time- around 9 P.M? I exited the room and Chacha asked me 'Ichihime sama, where are you going?' 'im going to see Caesar dono, please a rest for now' The maids made a surprised face and left, first, i headed for the Kitchen Arriving ine kitchen, i talked to the kitchen head- a middle aged woman named Taki 'Um, Caesar dono seemed to have not eaten anything so perhaps there is something...' With a smile, she nodded and asked me to wait for a little while Apparently, Caeasar often went to the kitchen when he was hungry. Soon, she returned carrying a cart loaded with some soup, bread, and other food that was apparently of western origin. 'the lord eats plenty, but this should be enough' 'Thank you, it seems very delicious' i replied to her as i left the kitchen Seeing Ichihimes figure pushing the cart, Taki muttered 'The young master Caesar seems to have gotten a good wife, hasnt he...' I quietly knocked on the door of Caesars work room, and the door was soon opened. Caesar whose face looked surprised to see me at first, but soon he was smiling with delight 'Ichihime, did you bring these for me?' After that i heard his stomach growling, and couldnt help but laugh Caesars face slightly reddens as he said 'Im sorry, im actually at my limit, may i have some then...' As caesar was busy eating, i looked around the room, with a big table and a sofa for resting, and flowers arranged neatly in the window. I couldnt help but notice that Caesar who put his hands together before eating as if praying was somewhat adorable. I should get to the main point.. 'Caesar dono, thank you for your help today, i am truly grateful, (im sorry, but this is all i can say) Caesar, who seemed to have grasped my intention, waved it off lightly 'I would be disqualified as a husband if i dont listen to my new wifes wish' At that time, i had probably been wearing an expression that was about to cry. 'it will be fine,Ichihime, i have gotten through worse things' Caesar said jokingly 'Anyway, because i was a coward anyway, it was kenshin-dono who fought the enemy directly, i can make any number of excuses' Will it be that simple? But seeing Caesars relaxed smile somehow relieves me. After having some small talk, and joking about how to write each other's names in different languages, Caesars face suddenly turned serious. 'Now, there is something i have to tell you' I was startled and sat up quickly 'Tomorrow we will leave for the West star' 'If there is no problems, the travel time between the stars will be less than a day' Caesar draws a line between 2 circles as he explained to me. 'Even if we successfully rescue Ranamru- Jeanne, at this point, a full scale war between the East and the West is unavoidable' I felt shocked at Caesar who spoke indifferently and felt a pang of fear -- How will this person (Caesar) act when that time comes? 'There is an important thing i must tell you, if that time comes, the attack will begin immediately' Caesar looked straight into my eyes 'The heavy weapons and technology the west star possesses far surpasses that of the East-- naturally, that includes the Ikusa yoroi (giant war machines) For example, this land and this castle can be turned into ashes in an instant.' I swallowed nervously, today i had heard how the village under the Oda castle was turned into a sea of blood by the two ikusayoroi that had come-- will greater destruction that this befall this star? 'Therefore, by the time you actually see the enemy properly it will be too late' Caesar continues as he draws some small circles on paper. 'So this means that you have to take action quickly, have several man continuously observe the sky, if you can see many small lights from the west star, it would mean that the fleet has departed, at that time, please evacuate the citizens of the city along with everyone in this castle' 'Although i cant determine where exactly they will land, but i have no doubt that this place will be one of their first targets' 'Caesar-dono, thats..' Was it because of what i made him do today? 'Please survive, Ichihime' Suddenly, Caesar embraced me tightly, almost stifling my breath 'At that time, i may not be here in time, so-' His body that was trembling sligtly was transmitted tome, and i gently patted his back. This person who yearns and thinks of me so much.. 'Please, you must return safely' And yet, those important words, i was unable to tell him even as he left the next morning. Soon, just as Caesar had predicted, the west star began their invasion and the castle where she had only stayed for a couple of days, and the Takeda lands were reduced to ashes. However, the casualties were kept at a minimum. By cooperating with the Takeda people, the time of the attack was predicted, and the city were evacuated, though some people insisted on remaining. 'young mistress, thank you' Taki who approached me said in the area we had evacuated to 'is everyone safe?' 'Yes, most of the people has evacuated early, now , please return to Lord Nobunaga with your maids' 'What? no, i should wait for the lord to arrive along with everyone else' Taki shook her head and pressed a letter to my hand 'Its from the young Master Caesar' I somewhat nervously opened the paper and read it carefully Beloved Ichihime, If you are reading this letter, then for some reason, i have not been able to return from the west star. I have entrusted this letter to Taki whom i trust the most in this castle This is the next step. Once you have gone through the first attack, escape into Owari and return to the Oda. You are new to this country, and is still a stranger to the people here (though im the same) As my wife, and the sister of the destroyer-king, your position is very dangerous. Although the takeda are my subordinates, we may not be able to trust them completely. Once you have ensured everyones safety, leave quietly, your duty as the mistress ends here. If i am unable to return or not survive, you are free. But if i am able to return safely, please stay by my side for the rest of my life. I know that i have done many terrible things- for which there may never be any forgiveness for. And yet i still hope to be with you, and i want to make you happy. Because i love you, from the bottom of my heart Gaius Julius Caesar My tears wouldnt stop as i finished reading the letter. Caesar-dono, The man who i called such. Who risks his life for my sake. Who loves me and gives everything to me as a 'husband' If that is so, i want to respond to those feelings. Gaius Julius Caesar. I am your wife. Live and Survive, Wherever you are right now I will wait for you no matter how long, I will be the place for you to return to. As according to Caesars words, i aimed for the country of Owari. On the way there, i met the other man who is in my heart. phew Well that was long. The author is obviously making a series to tie into the story, its also obvious he incorporated parts of Ichis character song into the story, and i actually find it very believable, especially because it could have certainly happened offscreen |
jfsAug 8, 2014 2:05 AM
Aug 8, 2014 2:36 AM
#423
| And heres the same story from Caesars POV I want to return home. Where? Caesar asks himself. He looked outside the window to the star of the East which is clearly visible in the darkness of the night. After being caught by Cesare, he was escorted into Palais Natura. The stone paved road. The street with tall buildings lined up. Drier Air. Even though the star in which he was born should be nostalgic, It is neither his territory or his hometown or his residence in the capital that he wants to return to now. It was his temporary residence in the Kai country in the East star. The town surrounded by lush green forests and mountains. The damp air with the scent of fragrant flowers. And above all, the place where Ichihime exists. Caesar sighs. Rising from his seat, he paced around the room. Although he was a criminal, his status as a general ensured he was confined in a luxurious room in the castle, although soldiers stand guard outside at all times. How did this happen? The cause he blamed was Hannibal and Charlemanges invasion. He became angry as he recalled it 'Damn it!' Even though I was finally able to obtain Ichihime. I slumped down on the bed, and suddenly notices a string tangled in my clothes. 'Ah' I quickly removed my gloves and carefully lifted the string, it was a long strand of pink hair. 'Ichihime..!' I called out instinctively. I twined the strand of hair around my fingers I recalled the morning i had left her,she had looked up to me with a concerned expression 'it will be allright' I held her shoulder quielty, even though i wanted to embrace her closely, 'Well then, im off' The moment i turned my back, i felt something warm in my ears 'May the fortune of war..' the voice which was barely audible. I was happy, very happy, i turned around, a little surprised, Ichihime backs up reflexively, her previously sad expression gave way to an angry one, her face reddening, perhaps she hadnt meant for me to hear it. I smiled towards her and said 'i will be back' and left the residence. I want to return. To where you are However, this situation... i am unable to go anywhere. At this moment, it would be his love rival, Mitsuhide, who is going to her (he would definitely escape to protect her) Mitsuhide. The man who exists in Ichihime's heart What will happen when the two of them meet again? She may not hope for my return. 'I will not let you go as long as i live' I had said so to Ichihime the first night that i embraced her. If so, she may hope for my death instead. Still, the my eyes turned to the strand of hair in my finger. I recalled her voice before i left, her expression. I want to return. And, i want to live with you, forever. Soon, morning arrived, and there was a knock on my door. 'General Caesar, please come with us.' Sighing, i stood up, and soon my hands were handcuffed again. |
Aug 8, 2014 3:41 AM
#424
| The feels.... I have to say even though I don't really read alot of fanfiction. I thoroughly enjoyed this. I have to say it does seem like something they would think in the situation they are in. |
Aug 8, 2014 6:37 AM
#425
| Well i must say i can believe that Caesar had told Ichi what to do in case the west star invades, after all she seems to be ready to evacuate the takeda people so yeah... Well it occured to me that in ep 17 caesar said 'Once upon a time/a long time ago, i was wounded in a duel over a certain lady' I mean caesar is 19, a long time ago implies that it was many years, i cant imagine caesar fighting over a lady when he was that young... Not to mention there were no scars or whatsoever... So what if (and this might be just a wild guess) caesar wears that mask because of the memory of his previous life or whatever, but thats just my possible theory of where the manga is heading and could it be that caesar betrayed arthur both in his past and current life, both for the sake of a woman? it would make sense that in both lives he was the one who betrayed arthur |
Aug 8, 2014 11:06 AM
#426
| Well heres one on how the author imagined Caesar and Ichi meeting again Title is 'I want to tell you' 'Hey, hes here again' The class is finished, and my friend said so as i prepared to return home 'Not again... i cringe inwardly in my mind with disgust A Man was standing at the front gate of the Women only college It was a man wearing an elegant white shirt, with white hair covering his right eye with refined features. If his entire face is visible, surely he could be considered a perfect-looking man. As i head for the gate, i notice the girls that were also going home were fussing and making plenty of noise and fawning over the man. Suddenly, the man looks up to me and met my eyes. I tried to pretend i hadnt seen him, but it was too late. The mans face brightens an rushes to me 'you were late today' the man said with a smile. I couldnt help but notice his beautiful features up close, but i quickly regained my composure 'Its you again! Why on earth are you waiting here everyday?' The man suddenly knelt down in front of me as i said so. 'Havent i told you before? I love you, Please marry me' The man said so as he took my hand Somehow, i had a nostalgic feeling as he said so while watching his face. I dont understand this feeling... Have we met before? 'What do you think you are doing? let her go!' I pull myself together as i heard my friend telling the man off harshly 'Dont do as you like just because she doesnt say anything! She actually hates it! Right?' I could only nod my head in assent as i panicked at my friend's sudden demand for agreement. Thats right-- Its ridiculous to talk about marriage so suddenly. Moreover.. a confession in such a public place... For awhile now, a small crowd of curious students had gathered curiously. Suddenly, i felt embarassed. ' If youre going to talk about marriage so lightly, please dont come here anymore.. Lets go' Saying so, i told my friend to leave and escape from the man. 'Hes here again.. how many days has it been already/' The Man was standing as usual in the school gate as i looked out from the window. 'Its so unfortunate, even though he is such a good looking man' The friend laughed jokingly 'Youre right' Even though i agreed with her, i cant bring myself to hate the man. 'Well then take care, im going home first' She said so as i had work for the teacher and will be staying late The outside was dark by the time she was done. 'Time to go i guess' I walk through the now dark building. I looked at my watch and notice that its 8 PM Surely that man by this time has already- But i saw a familiar shadow as i approached the school gate. 'No way...' With disbelief, i ran towards the school gate, and can only stare wide-eyed at the man 'Is there something wrong?' The man smiled with a relieved expression 'I heard from your friend that you had stayed behind' However, the mans expression turned a little angry 'But, dont you think its dangerous for a girl to return home alone at this hour?' 'Im not a child anymore! im safe alone! You are just a stranger, what gives you the right to tell me what to do?' I inevitably got annoyed and argued with him. The man then made a troubled and complicated expression . 'You havent changed at all, you always put on a brave and strong face, but inside you are weak and defenseless.' The man looked at me with a nostalgic expression. Instinctively, i asked him 'Have we met somewhere before? i felt like we have met somewhere before for some reason' The man had a surprised expression 'Do you remember?' .. the man murmured softly.. 'No, i cant remember where we met' The man then put on a sad expression. Seeing his sad expression, suddenly my heart begins to ache. What is this pain? I feel that i have forgotten something important that i shoudlnt have forgotten. I want to remember it. I think i must remember it. However, nothing is recalled. The man regained his cheerful look quickly and laughed. 'You dont have to force yourself to remember, for you, it may not be necessarily happy memories' 'But since its late, at least let me take you home' The man boldly took my hand and began walking. I was shocked. Being together with this man, for some reason feels natural. He made some small talk and i found that he bakes cakes and sweets as a hobby. When i said that it was an unusual hobby for a man, he laughed loudly and said that i had said the same thing a long time ago. His face was full of tenderness . We are almost at my house. The conversation continues steadily and we seemed to be walking too quickly now. I dont want to go home yet. I want to be together a little longer. However, i cant say something like that to him possibly, so i took a different roundabout route suddenly on purpose. Although the man followed me, he raised his eyebrows. 'Do you usually take this route home normally? Im sure your house is the other way...' As we entered an unfamiliar small street, suddenly three man approached us, they look like delinquents They began leering and sneering towards me, laughing obscenely 'Hoo, what a steamy couple, walking this road alone in the middle of the night, ah i just love that uniform.'' I felt sick under those vulgar gazes. As if protecting me, the man pulls me behind him. My hand was trembling in fear, the man notices it and grasps it firmly. That alone was enough to make me feel relieved. 'Hoo, looks like someone likes to show off... hey, once we are done with your boyfriend, how bout we go somewhere to have some fun together?' The thugs grinned savagely, however, the man only scoffed and laughed scornfully. 'She is not suitable for the likes of you, i wont let any of you touch her with your dirty hands' 'Why you bastard!' The thugs rushed towards the man all at once, but although it was 3 against one, the man easily beat the delinquents one at a time, using power surprising for his slim frame. However, suddenly my hand was gripped roughly, and a small knife was pressed against my throat. One of the thugs had recovered and captured me, i can only cower in fear. 'Do you not care what happens to this woman?' The mans eyes then shined like a demon 'I wont let anyone hurt her' With inhuman speed, the man was already in front of me and had grabbed the hand holding the knife and pulled me away, before kicking the man in the stomach, causing him to fly back several feet. 'Dont ever touch her with your filthy hands again' 'Shit.. lets go already' The thugs then all ran, realizing it was no longer worth the risk. I sat down, still shaken from the scary experience. The man then approached me and embraced me tightly. As if trying to shake away my fears, the man whispered in my ears. 'Im glad youre not hurt The voice undoubtedly sincerely worries about me, i cant break loose from it. 'Im so glad you are safe, Ichihime' The mans arms hugged me even more tightly. Ichihime? A nostalgic sound. I have heard it before a long time ago. When? Who calls me by that name? One man appears in my mind. I know who that person is. yes, it was him... 'Ca..esar.. dono?' The man gasped when i muttered so 'could it be.. you recalled it?' The voice that i had expected to hear. The voice which rings nostalgically in my ears. 'Are you Caesar-dono?' I leaned forward to his body and clung to him. The man smiled even though he seemed like he was about to cry. 'Yes, Gaius Julius Caesar, has returned' Tears began to flow from my eyes like rain. I have finally recalled it How could i have forgotten in the first place. Even though it was such an important memory Even though he was such an important person. 'Finally, i was able to meet you' Caesar-dono wiped the tears on my cheek gently 'After i died, i had wanted for meet you all the time. I wanted to apologize to you. Because i wanted you and loved you, i dragged you into the bloody battle. I wasnt able to make you happy' I shook my head desperately towards caesar who looked at me with such a sad expression. There was no such thing. I was happy to have spent time with Caesar even though it was only for a short time. I continued to shake my head without saying anything. 'Even so, i want you to let me love you again I was reborn many times, and each time i looked for you. But i was unable to meet you or find you easily. The world where you were not present faded away tediously. Even when i see a beautiful flower, or listen to beautiful songs, my heart was not filled There was no meaning in being alive if you are not beside me. I can never live without you, i understand that perfectly. Will you... be my wife once more?' Caesar-dono looks at me straight in the eye. My tears wont stop. Really, Caesar dono knows how to make me cry so many times, for different reasons.. I wipe away my tears. 'I have also prayed many times after dying. To be able to meet Caesar dono again. I have something i have always wanted to tell you for a long time...' The words which i was unable to say due to stubborness , pride, and embarassment in my past life. I had regretted always, because i had died without being able to say it. I will tell you now, because i had received so much from you, yet i could only give back a little, at least i will start with this now. 'I love you too, Caesar-dono, lets always be together from now on' I will love you no matter how many times i am reborn. I swear my eternal love to you I really like this one for some reason, the author really captured Caesars stalkerish behavior percfectly lol I gota love how Caesar just casually remarked 'Hmm, do you normally go home this way? im sure your house is the other way' LMAO he sounded like a really creepy stalker there |
jfsAug 8, 2014 11:19 AM
Aug 8, 2014 12:25 PM
#427
| Oh, the fanfics were so good! <3 You're right, they are really believable. And yeah, the feels.... Thanks fo much Jfs for translating! :) LOL, can you imagine a 13 yr old Caesar dueling for a woman? XD LOL I always wondered why there wasn't even a scar on his face. That's entirely plausible that the manga would have it as that's why he wears the mask. It definitely would make sense that Caesar's the one to. Once you think about it Caesar does have a lot of similarities with Lancelot (he did father Galahad with another woman, and women did fall for him). I liked that a lot too. And LOL, the author sure did! XD Yeah! Like it's natural for him to know that. XD Caesar's stalking in full force! LOL |
Aug 9, 2014 1:01 PM
#428
| Well one thing i want to point out is the next DVD set, the one with caesar in the cover, is a big box set I.E the dvd set the first one (vol 1) is a big box with the intro novel and has nobu in the cover, the box can hold dvds set 1-4 So the one with caesar is meant to hold 5-8, i just hope it has a caesar ichi drama CD, the jap fans seem to be hoping for it too... I re-read the manga the other day too, and i kinda noted a few stuff, for example, in the last chapter, excalibur was specifically mentioned while arthurs background was described, it seems the original round table with arthur was brutal, and did everything to conquer the world, but fortunately, the world was merciful and eventually the round table began to crack internally, though it was never stated that 'the knight' who betrayed arthur did it because he loved guinevere, da vinci only mentioned that the knight died afterwards but guinevere was killed too, dont think there was a special mention of guinevere and the knight loving each other, but this is da vinci saying, so it might or not be completely accurate, apprently the knight kidnapped the queen and took her hostage as he wanted to take over the country according to da vinci. That said what actually happened is more likely that the betrayal was due to guinevere imo, but idk we will see i guess...(after all people might have intepreted the reason for the knights betrayal wrongly, and that it was actually because of the knights love for the queen) That said, im convinced that guy is Caesars past life or whatever, it would make sense that he is fated to betray arthur (again) and that similar appearance, i cant imagine the author did that coincidentally... IDK but does caesar being the one wielding and pulling excalibur out of the stone in the anime just lacks some explanation to me, a plot going in the direction of the manga hopefully explains more of his background or at least i hope so Also the manga confirms that the female voice of jeannes prophecy is actually guinevere's |
jfsAug 9, 2014 1:10 PM
Aug 9, 2014 3:42 PM
#429
| That's good! I really hope that it is. Hm, interesting. That story actually sounds more like Mordred's story than Lancelot's. And Mordred is usually Author's nephew and or son (it depends on the version) by his sister, Morgause, (he didn't know she was) who in modern adaptations is usually merged with Morgan le Fay. And in some versions Guinevere willingly went with Mordred and they had two children. Also Arthur and Mordred fought (I don't remember that Arthur and Lancelot did though Arthur was pursuing him, it was another knight that fought him) and Arthur killed Mordred, but Mordred did give Arthur a mortal wound. That's when Excalibur was thrown into the lake and Arthur went to Avalon. Also, even though Lancelot betrayed Arthur by romancing Guinevere, he never fought against Arthur and was never considered a traitor (as afterwards Lancelot and the knights who survive stay together), it's only Mordred who is considered the traitor. Lancelot still wanted to be buried by Arthur and Guinevere and was considered loyal to Arthur. LOL Though interestingly enough, there is some work that portrays Author as a villain and Mordred as good and that Mordred was the rightful heir (in this he's not Arthur's illegitimate son) and Arthur and Gawain stole it from him. In this it's said "with Arthur was none other life but war and strife, and with Sir Mordred was great joy and bliss". The betrayal always does have to do with her, so yeah, it should be. (I'm thinking like that too that they loved each other.) It really does to me too. But if Caesar is actually Mordred then it could be going with him as the rightful ruler and that's why Caesar was able to wield Excalibur as he's Mordred. |
Aug 9, 2014 10:46 PM
#430
| well who knows... maybe the author didnt even study the legends that much |
Aug 9, 2014 11:03 PM
#431
| That is very possible. The whole Arthur/Guinevere/Lancelot thing is so famous so they probably just did whatever they wanted. LOL |
Aug 9, 2014 11:14 PM
#432
| well the manga said arthur was a bad guy ruler instead of a noble one, and that 'it was fortunate' that the round table cracked, and the knight betrayed him, so arthur was portrayed as bad as opposed to the proper legend.. so who knows But if the knight is Caesar lancelot definitely fits him more |
Aug 10, 2014 1:35 AM
#433
| Who knows indeed. XD I agree Lancelot fits him more, but the story sounds more like Mordred's. But then again they could be taking inspiration from some movie (I don't really watch Arthurian films so I wouldn't know) where Lancelot did that and was merged with Mordred. LOL |
Aug 10, 2014 2:26 AM
#434
| Yeah, I wished they had went into detail with excaliber in the anime. Why was it given to Caesar and discarded like nothing etc. Hmm, I have to say it really is looking like Lancelot was Caesar's past life. I wonder if he is gonna regain some of those past life memories. I don't really think they read to much into the Arthurian legends. They probably just know the basics of the story. I'll just leave this here :) http://www.alfoo.org/image/diary48/levela13/levela13-1407668125-w.jpg |
BodomschildAug 10, 2014 5:04 AM
Aug 10, 2014 6:37 AM
#435
| Well whoever that knight is it seems like its caesar, whether its based on mordred or lancelot As i said though, guinevere is the one giving jeanne those visions and she seems to be half alive and i wonder if she will play a part if caesar indeed betrayed arthur for guinevere in the past. Anyway, i hope if he does have flashbacks to his past it will lead to some romantic choice with Ichi, im hoping Caesar will turn against arthur again (same as his previous life) because of Ichi (which is the logical path at this point, but it might go differently) Then again we could be just overthinking/overimagining things, but next chapter released on the 26th should give us a good idea on where caesar and ichis subplot is going All i can say for sure is the manga is going into far more detail on the arthur/guinevere subplot, and i think that will continue to the end Last chapter nobu and co seems to find out that ichi and nobukatsu is alive from himiko, and mitsu seems to have understood (probably why ichi went with caesar) he just said something like 'i see..' Anyway it would be hilarious if mitsu went to take back Ichi only for her to say 'Im sorry mitsu, but i have agreed to become caesar donos waifu' |
jfsAug 10, 2014 6:53 AM
Aug 10, 2014 11:43 AM
#436
| Yeah, I think they just know the basics too. That is cute! Yeah, whoever it is, that is most likely Caesar. Guinevere better play a part. Well, whatever happens I do hope it will definitely lead to a romantic choice with Ichi. True, we could, that has happened with the anime. XD I agree, it should. I really hope the manga does. That's all Mitsu said? XD That would be SO HILARIOUS! Hope it happens! LOL |
Aug 10, 2014 11:56 AM
#437
| yeah but it seems mitsu understood whats going on (that maybe ichi went with caesar to save nobukatsu or something like that) When Mitsu rescues (or meet ichi again) i just have the feeling that Ichi will tell him something along the lines of 'im sorry, i cant go back.. i have agreed to marry caesar dono in exchange for...' That or Caesar will show up to help Nobu and co suddenly declaring himself as her husband Either way lets just wait for next chapter, as i keep saying, we should get an idea of which direction caesar and ichis relationship will be going in the manga. Note that Nobukatsu is fully recovered and actually is getting along with the twins, it seems that some time has passed.... So i wonder how far Caesar and Ichis relationship has developed.. does she still dislike him? or has she already softened up to him? or has caesar already married her? the wait is killing me lol But if the knight is really caesar i can totally see caesar having to choose between his love for ichi or his devotion to guinevere from his past life(who seems to be somewhat alive and whispering to jeanne in the manga) And of course he would choose ichi lol or i would get mad at him |
jfsAug 10, 2014 11:59 AM
Aug 10, 2014 7:43 PM
#438
| Ah, I see. Well, figures Mitsu would understand, but shocker he's not upset. XD Yeah, Ichi's bound to say something like that. LOL, that would be funny. XD Yeah, some time has definitely passed alright. That is what I am wondering. The wait is so hard. XD I can see Caesar having to make that choice too. It's set up so nicely for that. LOL, yes, he naturally chooses Ichi or I would too. |
Aug 13, 2014 12:24 AM
#439
| I can't seem to find the manga in the link you posted before (the raw of chapter 7 ) i really want to see it.. And no translation for Nobunaga's characters song? |
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Aug 13, 2014 1:00 AM
#440
| You have click on what looks like a video and then go through some other manga before you get to it (of course to be able to see it you must have an account). |
Aug 13, 2014 4:03 AM
#441
| Oh okay thanks..... I found it already i still need to wait for the translation..to read it |
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Aug 14, 2014 1:13 PM
#442
| Well i came accross the submitted questions to the supervisor and the answers, the supervisor is mostly coy on most questions and goes with 'i dont know, but IMO' and 'who knows, but...' to keep things open, some facts are given though, interesting ones are: 1) Confirmed Caesar and Ichi had no proper wedding ceremony due to it being wartime, but the supervisor said since the intentions was real, the marriage bond is stronger than even if a ceremony had taken place 2) Supervisor said Caesars playboyness is true, but he only uses it as a front to hide stuff and whatever, and that his love for Ichi is innocent and pure 3) The past lover of Caesar wasnt decided, but it is 'probably' someone involved with historical Caesar OR Napoleon (IDK was napoleon a womanizer?) that said the manga is an independent work so we never know if caesar can still be lancelot? lol 4) One question asked when caesar started liking ichi and what he likes about her Answer: Supervisor dont know , but he thinks that Caesar loves everything about her that was shown in the show, her looks, and all of her actions 5) One guy asked Who does Ichi love in the end? 'Only Ichihime knows for sure her own feelings' which is a vague answer, but he thinks at the minimum, she has genuine affections for both, and i guess he thinks how she ignored mitsu in the end was a form of love for him so he doesnt grieve over he too much. (though he said its just his opinion and personally i find it hard to believe ichi was thinking that far ahead in that moment, i think she just ran out of time, what was she supposed to say to him anyway?) The character song answers that question clearly though: she still have lingering affections for Mitsu, but she has fallen in love with caesar and has decided to be with him 6) Reincarnation question: Supervisor says its way too much to assume that even the two people in the epilogue is indeed nobu and Jeanne, and that even though they look like jeanne and nobu, the souls and memories may not be the same or whatever. He said that he doesnt know if the charaters can/will meet again, but if they did, he hopes it would be in a circumstance where the fate of the world wont hinge on them (i.e give them a normal life) But he also added that these are his personal opinion that people who did not have 'complete' lives can certainly reincarnate in different times (im not sure what hes saying, something about buddhist believes in reincarnation), so he thinks that other than Mitsu and saru who had carried out their 'will' in the show, the others might reincarnate in various ages etc etc (i guess it means Mitsu and whoever survived and lived a full life will move on to the afterlife?), while the others will reincarnate (note that this is all his personal opinion), so i guess caesar and ichi can meet again if they really wanted to (not sure about ichi but im sure caesar will stalk her throughout the ages lol) Anyway basically he didnt give a concrete answer for all the questions, he left many of it open and dodges saying its just his personal opinion, note that supervisors dont really write or decide the story so there are other staff who could defo have decided the answers... BTW, the supervisors favorite character is Mitsu, so yeah take that how you will.. This is the same supervisor who went to the anime night btw, and he was the one who said caesar and ichi definitely had a story that wasnt told in the main show (still waiting on the next blu ray hoping for their drama CD) and is it too much to hope for the final DVD set to have caesar and ichi reuniting in some other time? i think it is |
jfsAug 14, 2014 1:47 PM
Aug 14, 2014 6:30 PM
#443
| 1) T_T I was really hoping they did have one, but I can understand it being wartime and all. 2) Everyone can tell Caesars feelings for Ichi were true. 3) Yeah I really don't think it matters to the story. 4) Love at first sight obviously XD 5) Hate the vague answers, but I can understand her not saying anything to him in order for him to let go, but like you said I doubt she thought that ahead. 6) Hmm, interesting I'm so hoping for a Caesar x Ichi story in the next dramas and unfortunately I think it is too much to hope for a reunion in the future scene for the final blu ray but you never know. |
Aug 14, 2014 6:33 PM
#444
| 1) Ah, okay. That's interesting. 2) Hide stuff? XD That's good that he said Caesar's love is even though I figured that. 3) Oh! Napoleon! Yeah, that makes sense (I know Caesar's pose was based off of him, but didn't even think about it XD) His 1st wife was something (she had affairs herself). Actually Napoleon and Caesar in NtF are a lot alike (more than Caesar and historical Caesar, I would say. Really, they should've named him Napoleon XD). Napoleon was indeed a womanizer, but after divorcing his 1st wife he married Marie Louise in an arranged marriage (he chose her) and fell in love with her. Also Marie Louise dutifully agreed to marry him despite being raised to despise France and said "I wish only what my duty commands me to wish". Napoleon adored her and he "spared no pains" to please her. So yeah, Napoleon was a womanizer until Marie Louise. It's very much like Caesar and Ichihime there. Well, it doesn't keep him from being him. LOL 4) Yeah, figured that. 5) LOL, yeah, vague. XD What!? That sounds nuts. I find it hard to believe too. Also, Ichi was dying, she couldn't have been thinking much at all. I think the only thing on her mind was Caesar and she didn't even see Mitsu. I can't see how ignoring him would help him. LOL Exactly. 6) Okay.... Uh-huh.... Whatever. XD (LOL, that would be Caesar XD) I see, and I'm glad, as that's vague and whatever. XD Well, that explains his whole belief that Ichi was ignoring Mitsu so he wouldn't grieve too much for her as really that doesn't make sense. LOL Ah, really? Well, he should know that. I wish it wasn't, but I think it is too. And LOL, yeah, love at first sight obviously is right. XD |
Aug 15, 2014 5:17 AM
#445
| I just hope they did meet when they were reincarnated just like what happened to Nobu and Jeanne in the present. If only they show it...at the end I am still curious about the translation about Nobunaga's character song (i was looking for the translation of the song ) |
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Aug 15, 2014 11:35 AM
#446
Ladyhyodou said: I just hope they did meet when they were reincarnated just like what happened to Nobu and Jeanne in the present. If only they show it...at the end I am still curious about the translation about Nobunaga's character song (i was looking for the translation of the song ) jfs didn't translate Nobu's songs. You can try asking him though. |
Aug 16, 2014 4:19 AM
#447
Bodomschild said: Ladyhyodou said: I just hope they did meet when they were reincarnated just like what happened to Nobu and Jeanne in the present. If only they show it...at the end I am still curious about the translation about Nobunaga's character song (i was looking for the translation of the song ) jfs didn't translate Nobu's songs. You can try asking him though. Oh okay but he is not online now and I am sort of shy to ask for the translation though by the way is he watching this thread? |
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Aug 16, 2014 4:48 AM
#448
| Yes i am but i have no interest in Nobunagas character song. If you want to know google the lyrics and use google translate or babelfish, you should get an idea of what its about |
Aug 16, 2014 5:05 AM
#449
jfs said: Oh... Yes i am but i have no interest in Nobunagas character song. If you want to know google the lyrics and use google translate or babelfish, you should get an idea of what its about I tried it just now but it's barely accurate... I see some japanese words not tranlated well... But oh well... |
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Aug 26, 2014 12:14 AM
#450
| So new chapter is out... and Caesar confirmed to be the knight who betrayed arthur in the past life! glad it wasnt a coincidence The wound in Caesars face confirmed to be from his past life in his fight with arthur i guess We see Caesar and Ichi in only a single page, but they seem to be somewhat close? she doesnt seem to mind touching him and tells him he is sweating alot... And she asks him what he saw in the past and who he was in his past life, caesar has flashbacks of guinevere dying.. I wonder what caesar being lancelot or whoever will affect his relationship with Ichi, its clear he will have some kind of big role in the story though, since hes related directly to arthurs role, hoping for a good ending for him lol I guess it also means caesar has a score to settle with arthur, btw the anime arthur does seem to treat caesar somewhat specially... him being with ichi and knowing his past life seems to put him on the route of betraying arthur though Him having flashbacks to his past might avert his death flag (at least i hope so) BTW in the last chapter arthur created guineveres puppet and she seems to be crying and arthur doesnt understand why... I guess im sticking to my theory that the reason caesar betrayed arthur was because he and guinevere were.. yeah, and not because caesar was greedy for power (or that caesar wanted to stop arthur because he was a cruel ruler) Im curious what caesars relationship with Ichi is, she calls him without a honorific though, i mean im not sure if he made her his wife, i dont think so, but maybe a mistress? or maybe he is still courting her or getting to know her |
jfsAug 26, 2014 12:29 AM
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