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Jul 2, 2014 3:18 AM
#252
jfs said: same as the one when nobu n jeanne died 'departure' Hmm, I guess it makes sense considering the 4 of them depart this world for another XD. Man, they really like to go with the flower motif with Ichi X Caesar. |
Jul 2, 2014 3:37 AM
#253
| The opening has white and red flowers too in the background, no mitsu flowers |
Jul 2, 2014 6:39 AM
#254
Bodomschild said: BTW remember in ep 21 how Caesar's right hand and Ichi's left hand are touching in the end. I was looking at a high res shot of the last supper and it looks like they are holding each others hands like ep 21 ie Caesar's right hand and Ichi's left. Now you mentioned it, I do think that they're holding hands. Maybe that's why Saru was calling Mitsuhide's attention XD Still, it's the cake reference that surprised me. Did Da Vinci know about the Chocolate Cake of Love? Did he learn it from Ichihime? Or was it a usual trick Caesar employed in pursuing women? |
Jul 2, 2014 8:03 AM
#255
| IDK the picture clearly portrays them as a couple though, they were there in the corner in their own world I doubt he knows, besides caesar always eats chocolate when alone anyway.. Well Ichi is the first eastern woman Caeasar wooed so i think its not his usual strategy, Chocolates is clearly a western stuff so i doubt it would have as much impact on a western lady as it would on an eastern girl who never saw it before |
Jul 2, 2014 11:41 AM
#256
| True, Mitsu was all over the place and it was rushed. Oh really? I figured Caesar and Ichi were holding hands, but I didn't think it was the same ones. Yeah, I doubt Caesar's mask had anything to do with Arthur's control. I think it breaking was just symbolic. Oh? So the ost is special for that scene? That has to be what the name is referring to: they're developing feelings for each other, like you said. They LOVE the flower motif for Caesar x Ichi. LOL, yeah that would be why Saru is calling his attention. XD My guess is that da Vinci doesn't know and they just wanted to put the cake there as reference to that scene. |
Jul 2, 2014 12:19 PM
#257
| I cant remember the OST being played in any other episode, so yeah Well Its Ichi mostly who does that, only flower stuff with caesar is his white flowers on the OP background (unless you count the rose in his room) I like that in his character song, he only talks about flowers in one line i.e 'the name of the flower that has bloomed' , he doesnt use any flowery words in the rest of his songs, it seems completely out of place, they put it there purposely to make it stand out and make us think back to Ichis chara song, all the chara songs are written by the same guy, so i guess its to be expected.. One thing i found out is that the DVD/Blu ray boxes contain CDS including promo videos and audio commentary for each episode, i wonder if there is some extra info.. well ill probably pick the boxes for my favorite episodes later on |
Jul 2, 2014 12:55 PM
#258
| Yeah, it's mainly Ichi, but Caesar gets flowers a little. XD Oh, good point! That is really good. I really like that too as it's a clear reference to Ichi's. |
Jul 2, 2014 1:57 PM
#259
| I'm reading some forum posts about the show when I see this "I agree that Ichihime was a surprisingly strong willed and interesting character for a time. But during the episode where she was killed they completely flushed that down the drain. I do not buy for a second Ichihime suddenly showing undying love towards Caesar. Their relationship was not built up enough at all for me to possibly accept it as natural. If you add to the fact the guy killed her father along with many of her people, forced her into marriage and she already had feelings for Mitsuhide I just don't see her going "Oh where hath my old Caesar gone?" without it being forced. She didn't even leave Mitsu any final words when she died which makes it feel like she had completely forgot about him. It completely ruined her character in my opinion". Compared to what this guy said ep 21 actually gave her even more character. Ichi for the entire show was portrayed as a rational person. It was good to see her do something so irrational. |
Jul 2, 2014 4:16 PM
#260
| LOL, reminds me of the time I saw a post where a person was blaming Caesar for Nobukatsu's death. LOL really? I completely agree with you. Ep 21 definitely gave Ichihime more character and I really liked her being so irrational too (love does that after all). Whenever she was around Caesar, she showed a completely different side and that she wasn't just a "perfect doll princess". Like Caesar's development is all centered on Ichi, her's is on Caesar. As without him she would be just a purely plot device chara for Mitsu to betray Nobu. Barely more to her than Chacha, Hatsu, and Gou. That person is either a Mitsuhide fan and/or Mitsu x Ichi fan or a Caesar hater. I've seen Mitsu fans hate Ichi at ep 21 just because she fell for Caesar and ignored Mitsu. And they'll use anything to "justify" their hate; no matter how illogical it is. |
Jul 2, 2014 4:52 PM
#261
| The guy was a Mitsu fan he even wrote that Mitsu was the only character he can sympathise with LOL... I have to say it still is kind of funny how Ichi basically ignored Mitsu during her last minutes. I agree Ichi was both an interesting and boring character in the beginning. I mean she just seemed so perfect around everyone. When ep 13 began and you saw her cry was a nice way to show how she was suffering and throwing away her happiness for her clan. Then comes the interactions with Caesar in ep 14 and you see her react like a normal girl. Foward to ep 21 and while she still is the same level headed person. She just couldn't resist and went to see Caesar even though he was branded an enemy... BTW that was basically the only time she went against her "Aniues" wishes. Nobu did say it is what it is and to just cut ties with Caesar. I'm guessing annul the marriage? |
Jul 2, 2014 5:09 PM
#262
| LOL, then it's obvious why he hates Ichi. XD Mitsu is the only one he can? LOL, I can't even. XD That will always be funny. Yeah, it was nice in ep 13 that she was, but she was still being perfect as she was doing it for the clan and not letting anyone see her suffer. Seeing her act like a normal girl was the best. Yeah, it was the only time she went against him and Nobu was surprised when Mitsu said she was with Caesar. Nobu expected her to do whatever he said and didn't think she would go see Caesar. Hm, I guess it was to annul the marriage as that would be cutting ties with him. |
Jul 2, 2014 6:30 PM
#263
| Mitsu does get plenty of screentime and 'character development' but for me that doesnt make him interesting or likeable, because his personality is unlikeable, i just want him to suffer more, i cant bring myself to symphatise with him... I guess cutting ties with him would include the marriage, maybe thats why Ichi went off in secret, because she knew nobu (and mitsu) wouldnt allow it But they should have a couple more scenes at least, though i can still buy into their relationship, the character songs help alot in giving their charas and relationship more depth I cant get why some people insist Mitsu is 'best boy' while Caesar is the 'worst man' though, no matter how i look at it, Mitsu is a faggot The scene where Ichi crawls past Mitsu and ignoring him is the show's way of showing as that, if it was ever in any doubt, she no longer has any feelings for him, shame people called her a slut and fickle/frivolous because she fell in love with caesar |
jfsJul 2, 2014 6:57 PM
Jul 2, 2014 7:26 PM
#264
| Yeah... screen time and character development doesn't equal likability. Suffering Mitsu is the only good Mitsu. That would explain why she did. They really should've. Well, it didn't come from nowhere after all. He did a lot for her that she knew about, they had a sweet scene, and she worried about him. The signs were there. The chara songs really do help a lot. I can't either, especially after all Caesar has done for Ichi. He has proved his love. Mitsu is a hypocrite, who can't take responsibility for anything. Exactly! They wouldn't have shown that otherwise. It really is a shame as she's anything, but. Not fair to label Ichi that just because she doesn't choose who she wants. |
Jul 2, 2014 7:48 PM
#265
| Well obviously I can't really see them letting her go to enemy territory. The songs are really what confirms their feelings for each other. I see some people who aren't sure what Ichi's feelings for Caesar were even after watching ep 21. Even though its been said plenty of times. Caesar was at war with the Oda clan It was kill or be killed. Mitsu on the other hand took it upon himself to assassinate Nobukatsu. The crawling scene even though it hurts to watch is my favorite. It's like she shuts everything out and just wants to be with Caesar in her final moments. I mean for all she knew he could have already been dead. |
Jul 2, 2014 9:28 PM
#266
| That is very true. I can't understand why they can't see Ichi loved Caesar after all she did in ep 21. Going to enemy territory, then crawling to him. Exactly, Caesar was at war and that's the nature of war. There is no personal feelings involved. Shingen would have killed Ichi's father just as easily. In that kind of setting it doesn't really matter who does it. Yeah, Mitsu's assassination was totally different; he was an ally and sniped the boy from a roof top. Ichi really does shut everything out. Well, they were in their own world before the attack and her whole focus shifts to him again. Yeah, she really only wanted to be with him. Exactly, she was using her little strength remaining to get to him; not knowing. |
Jul 3, 2014 1:27 AM
#267
| Well when Nobunaga told Jeanne that they will 'sever ties with Casar' it can only mean severing the alliance which was only made due to the marriage in the first place so yeah, but Ichi went to see him anyway.. The thing about anime is you dont get much monologue or insights into what the characters are thinking, it would be nice if the manga does have panels where the characters reveal whats in their mind but the manga seems to be rushing things compared to the anime... If we can at least see what the characters are thinking or feeling then yeah.. For example in ep 17 we see Ichi looking at the west star from the window and singing and we have the ninja girls saying 'oh it must be mitsu she is worried about' but next episode shows her worrying for caesar... so what was she really thinking while she was singing, and who was she really worrying for? we will never know But tbh i think she was worrying for both at that time, but when Mitsu comes back next ep and caesar didnt, she probably realized she was in love with him at that time |
Jul 3, 2014 2:11 AM
#268
| Yeah, I don't think Ichi got the memo XD. Thinking back now I don't really remember seeing any inner monologues for any chaeacter really. Yeah, she was definitely singing and worrying for both of them. Though the anime looked like it was trying to make you believe she was singing for Mitsu. With the shot of Mitsu looking at the star and the ninjas saying it was for Mitsu. |
Jul 3, 2014 2:18 AM
#269
| Indeed, it can only mean that. Looks like Nobu didn't care about Caesar then. That is the thing. Well, there's a chance the manga would, at least some as it did add the Guinevere reference. I don't hold out the highest hope though. That has been something I always wondered. I agree, I think she was (that's Ichi's chara right there). I think you're right. That would also explain the look she has at the end of that covo. LOL, yeah the anime made it look like it was Mitsu and they were longing for each other. Then BAM! ep 18 and from then on, there's nothing to imply any romantic feelings from Ichi to Mitsu. XD That was obviously their distraction trick (like with Brutus). |
Jul 3, 2014 2:55 AM
#270
| I know I'm gonna sound like a fanboy but the only thing I want from the manga is more Ichi X Caesar scenes and a happy Ichi X Caesar ending XD. Hmm, I remember reading a post a while back about Caesar in ep 17. The guy was basically saying how Caesar was being a douche towards Miysu for a couple of reasons. He was trying to motivate him but that it was also jelly and anger. He pointed out how Caesar was probably jelly that Ichi loved Mitsu and wanted to get a few jabs at him. Since Caesar probably thought he would never see Ichi again T_T. |
Jul 3, 2014 3:17 AM
#271
| To be honest, I was previously a Mitsu x Ichihime shipper. The first few episodes of the show made me think of them as tragic lovers. Plus Mitsu was pitiful from the start, and Caesar was a villain who was fated to die anyway, so I didn't want to invest much feelings on him. But come episode 14, I was converted to Caesar x Ichi. Mitsu stayed pitiful throughout the series with no redeeming factors. Caesar became more useful and you could see that he really did his best to win Ichi's heart even after their marriage. Naturally, he would win. Ichi crawling to Caesar is definitely one of the best scenes for me in the series. It had a killer background music too. I really believe a lot of things happened between Caesar and Ichihime behind the scenes. Right now, we can only speculate :( Hopefully we can get glimpses on these in the manga. Bodomschild, you're not alone. I'm wishing for the same thing XD |
Jul 3, 2014 5:39 AM
#272
| Well the show likes to misdirect us in many things, that scene was obviously to make us think Mitsu and Ichi were longing for each other Well personally i never liked Mitsu from the start, and i rather have Nobu x Ichi (even though i knew it probably wont happen ) , i never considered Caesar x ichi either until ep 11, i always thought caesar was gona die early as the 'first boss' but when he pulled his asspull powerup in ep 11 and Nobu asked for a tea party, somehow i knew right away he was going to ask for Ichi then, i just didnt imagine i would ship them until ep 14 haha I doubt Caesar was ever jealous of Mitsu, after all, as the song said, he knew his sins and his past, i doubt he ever expected her to reciprocate his feelings right away, especially after knowing each other for a couple of days... the chara song too says that he knows words alone wont win her over and he has to work hard if he wants her to look at him So imo, we can see that Caesar showed neither petty jealousy or anger towards Mitsu, based on the evidence from the show and the song, what he has is a quiet determination to change himself and show his good side to her and deep inside he is probably confident he would win her over eventually, he just doesnt angst or get jelly about her openly like Mitsu does, in the show between 14-20 he is more actions than words after all... preview of ep 21 says 'quietly blossoms' too |
jfsJul 3, 2014 5:47 AM
Jul 3, 2014 10:53 AM
#273
| Haha, that's all I want from the manga as well. XD I don't care much for the other parts of it. XD Hm, I doubt there was jelly and anger too. Caesar seemed to calm for that. I kinda shipped Mitsu x Ichihime (ep 2 - 4), till Caesar showed interest in her in ep 5, then I was purely a Caesar x Ichi shipper. XD I always felt Caesar would become an ally, and he was what kept me watching (and I like "villianous" charas). LOL A lot of things had to have happened behind the scenes with Caesar & Ichi. The chara songs pretty much says there is. You know, Nobu's sibling relationship with Ichi is the one that I liked best of his relationships. XD Though in ep 2 it did seem it might go the incest route. LOL XD I agree, that's how Caesar was and felt. Yeah, he did become more actions than words. |
Jul 3, 2014 12:09 PM
#274
| I doubt Caesar ever cared much for Mitsu tbh, even though saru did say they like each other, but caesar still went ahead and married her, so im sure he was always planning on making her fall his either way He was even willing to risk his life to save mitsu even though it would be convenient for him if mitsu died (there wont be anyone else to advise nobunaga, and he can have ichi for himself), he probably doesnt want her to be sad, and she probably knows this too Lol i read a fanfic where Caesar saved Mitsu because he 'didnt want to see her cry for any man other than him' haha that is totally like him though IDK the first time i saw mitsu i didnt like him and i never wanted him to have a romance with Ichi, i loved every bit of his suffering from the beginning even before i came to like caesar BTW the fangirl blog i talked about has her buying OST 2 today, and sure enough, she mentioned the title of the OST of the cake scene being called 'sprouting/budding' she also said that scene (or the ost) makes her heart flutter or whatever |
jfsJul 3, 2014 12:29 PM
Jul 3, 2014 1:00 PM
#275
| I doubt Caesar thought much to Mitsu too. He doesn't seem to give much thought to anyone, but Ichi (Arthur doesn't count as there was obviously spells involved). Like Binachi and Nell said, he thought everyone else are fools. It would have been convenient and wouldn't had mattered much as Mitsu couldn't wield Regalia. He was effectively useless. LOL, I can so see that being the reason Caesar would save him! XD Yeah, that's a definite possibility. XD I was alright with Mitsu (wasn't ever a fan or anything) till ep 5/6. His suffering was/is always so sweet! XD Well, she is a big fangirl! |
Jul 3, 2014 1:32 PM
#276
| Well you have 13 people voting for Mitsu to suffer instead of voting for their favorite couple so thats saying something... No, i think he saved Mitsu because he doesnt want her to be sad, but if she asked him why, he would probably say 'i just dont want you crying for anyone other than me' to her, it fits his personality that way No, i disliked him from the start, his voice and his looks i just dont like for some reason |
Jul 3, 2014 2:18 PM
#277
| That really does. Ah, true, yeah, indeed. Ichi to keep from crying would be why. That would indeed fit his personality. I am like that with some charas too; instant dislike for some reason. Mitsu's face does look pathetic, like he's constantly in pain and that's when he's normal! XD His VA is someone I am familiar with due to a friend being a fan of his (he voices a polar bear BTW that is way more awesome than Mitsu XD), and he has done some other charas I was annoyed it and some I liked. |
Jul 3, 2014 4:58 PM
#278
| Yeah, I don't think he cared much for the personal wellbeing of anyone other than Ichi. He said it himself "at least you Ichihime" which if you look at ep 22 no one really was mourning Caesar's death T_T. He just saved Mitsu for Ichi's sake and maybe because he saw Mitsu as a worthy ally? Though lets be honest they just wanted to separate Caesar and Ichi T_T. I think Sakurai does a good job at making Mitsu sound pathetic and unlikable XD. |
BodomschildJul 3, 2014 5:57 PM
Jul 3, 2014 5:54 PM
#279
| What I can't really stand with Mitsu was his hair flipping XD Seriously dude, it doesn't make you any cooler. jfs said: Lol i read a fanfic where Caesar saved Mitsu because he 'didnt want to see her cry for any man other than him' haha that is totally like him though That sounds really like Caesar XD Nice! True, Caesar only thought about Ichi. Everyone else din't matter. Even Arthur had to pull that tear-wiping with the maiden's face to put Caesar under his control XD |
Jul 3, 2014 6:09 PM
#280
| If it wasn't for Ichi, he wouldn't have done anything for Nobunaga and co. XD No, no one was; even Nobu didn't see Caesar in that bowl. T.T The only one who even mentioned Caesar was Alexander... I agree, they did want to separate them. Now I wonder what Nobu's thoughts were when Ichi was with Caesar after he got freed, since Nobu didn't think of him. Jeanne was really the only one who mentioned Caesar and Ichi together (which gave her points in my book XD). LOL, yes Sakurai does. XD Oh, and another role Sakurai does is a chara called the "Anguished One". XD B-but... that's Mitsu's signature i-it's supposed to be cool! At least he thinks so and is the only one who does. XD Exactly, Arthur has to pull that and I think the only reason that worked was because Caesar didn't think Ichi loved him back so he was longing for that. It's interesting how in ep 2 da Vinci called Ichihime "Aphrodite incarnate". |
Jul 3, 2014 10:02 PM
#281
| LOL, Mitsu looks so dumb here: https://38.media.tumblr.com/1c0a65e5fc9d6b8d48b45ed6a23dab2a/tumblr_n84xymEIIo1sokbkko1_250.jpg And here's the high res of Caesar x Ichi in the Last Supper: https://33.media.tumblr.com/62883dd442ba5d0226fd773e1cc8aaee/tumblr_n864fsG3331tv30d2o1_1280.jpg |
Jul 4, 2014 12:24 AM
#282
| Mitsu always look retarded and weird and ugly to me for some reason, and i dont like those clothes too.. Well i noticed the cake, the teacups, and the teapot were all the same as the one in ep 14, and the wine and wine glass the same as the one in ep 21 Well i guess she really likes sweets and cakes |
Jul 4, 2014 12:32 AM
#283
| That is true, but he looks even more so there. That smile... he looks like a complete idiot. XD Ichi really must as she got a whole bunch in front of her. LOL Well, it did get her to smile (that and what Caesar said). But really, I don't know a girl who doesn't love them. XD |
Jul 4, 2014 3:02 AM
#284
| OMG! It looks like Mitsuhide is getting his own spinoff manga http://comic.pixiv.net/works/1075 |
Jul 4, 2014 7:24 AM
#285
Bodomschild said: OMG! It looks like Mitsuhide is getting his own spinoff manga http://comic.pixiv.net/works/1075 o.O Probably worth reading if it's Mitsu x Suffering. XD Why can't Caesar have his own spinoff manga? And then we could learn more about the knights of the Round table? That would be more interesting for me :D |
Jul 4, 2014 7:32 AM
#286
| This actually gives me hope we might get a caesar spin off soon... im curious about the woman he got wounded for and the story behind his mask lol Well the manga is on the official site, and it seems the first chapter is in 18 of this month, Ichihime is also in one of the draft pictures, i guess we might see their backstory or something, plus more of his father and that kagome girl It also says the story will be from Mitsu perspective and will show stuff not seen in both the play and the anime Ahh i rather know more about caesar but whatever |
Jul 4, 2014 7:55 AM
#287
jfs said: This actually gives me hope we might get a caesar spin off soon... im curious about the woman he got wounded for and the story behind his mask lol ^This! Definitely more interesting than seeing Mitsuhide's angst. |
Jul 4, 2014 10:33 AM
#288
| ....Mitsu is what....? O.o LOL, true, it would be for the Mitsu x Suffering. XD Caesar's spin off manga would be infinitely more interesting. And to learn more of the Round Table. Seriously, what more can Mitsu add? Oh! If it means a better chance of a Caesar spin off manga, I'm all for the Mitsu one. XD I am not really interested in his father. XD |
Jul 4, 2014 10:47 AM
#289
| It might involve that kagome girl, she and Mitsu seems to be pretty close, and she died in his arms in the manga, or it might be scenes we didnt see from his POV, but ofc i prefer a Caesar one with the unseen scenes between him and Ichi (maybe their wedding scene with Mitsu angsting lol) as well as his past, like how he came to wear that mask etc I would really like his backstory e.g maybe he has a tragic past that made him the way he was at the start of the series we can only hope |
Jul 4, 2014 11:59 AM
#290
| Oh really? I read the manga, but skipped through parts and that was one. XD (Their wedding scene with Mitsu angsting would be gold!) I am very curious about his past. It really needs to be revealed. I'm thinking he probably does have a tragic past and a cold family. Indeed. |
Jul 4, 2014 12:40 PM
#291
| Just read the manga i guess, its quite different, asahi was still alive to at the start iirc Well i would rather have Caesar telling his past to Ichi in the manga, and there would be a proper romance between them but who knows... BTW the guy who wrote the japanese fanfics confirmed caesar is 19 according to the dvd commentary |
Jul 4, 2014 1:02 PM
#292
| I did read that part when she was alive, but got bored when it focused some on Saru, so I skipped. XD Oh, that would be good; I would like that. Who knows is right... Wow, Caesar sure is accomplished for his age. XD |
Jul 4, 2014 5:16 PM
#293
| Well, even though I am excited for the possibilities of what this could bring. I am frustrated that they chose Mitsu as the POV. I mean the anime was basically Mitsuhide the fool. We really don't need a manga about his suffering, unless it follows the anime canon XD. The way google translate words it it seems to be it's own canon not part of the play or anime. Which has me worried that this manga is gonna make Ichi X Mitsu canon. |
Jul 4, 2014 7:07 PM
#294
| Well its not like i want to know more about Mitsu, the translation says that it is a 'spinoff' and its 'an episode that 'was not drawn in the anime or the play' For me it implies that this manga is a sidestory that wasnt shown in the anime, and a 'spinoff' usually is part of an original series. Its most likely scenes that happen during the show that we did not see from Mitsu POV, i cant imagine it would be anything else but that, we might get some mitsu and ichi background, but thats probably that, it might be like the mahouka rettousei spinoff from the sister POV most likely Its not like its going to be a 10 volume manga or anything, its probably just going to be 1-volume at most, its not like the shows original manga was popular enough, or even the anime really, to warrant a serious manga serialization, and i guess we will just see, we are a long way off in the manga Im sure it will focus on a sidestory, it wont be a retelling of the entire show from Mitsuhides perspective, after all it says 'the episode that was not shown in the play/anime' so yeah im pretty sure its just a sidestory, most likely before the show began or early in the show |
jfsJul 4, 2014 7:17 PM
Jul 4, 2014 9:53 PM
#295
| Yeah, we knew Mitsu's thoughts way more than Nobu's and it did feel like Mitsuhide was the main (if you think about it, Jeanne was supposed to be helping him...). Yeah, only anime canon. XD Yeah, with the play, I always am kinda worried they'll do Mitsu x Ichi, but still I doubt they would, as the play didn't even get all the charas and seems like a simplified version of it. And it's something that will never be seen again... Oh, an episode? That's a relief. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a side story. Mitsu and Ichi background or Mitsu longing for her. I hope for the latter for the suffering. XD You watch Mahouka too? (I haven't read the manga) Yeah, definitely a one volume like a lot of series get. Yeah, probably be before or early, but oh, how I wish it was after Ichi married Caesar. XD |
Jul 4, 2014 11:01 PM
#296
| Well the first chapter is out on the 18th so we will see, but its probably a sidestory arc, the description says 'an episode that is not seen in the anime or the play' Actually im prettty sure its a prequel to the series, the link talks about 'the encounter of young people in the east', so it might focus on the friendship between saru nobu and mitsu as well as how Mitsu met with Ichi and came to serve the oda clan etc etc I used to, mahouka has a manga version focusing on the sisters perspective I doubt the manga will even be printed tbh, i think its just going to be an online release, the manga for both the story and this mitsu sidestory seems semi-professional to me I was confident the anime would go caesar x ichi after i saw her chara song, and i think the manga will too, especially as all the characters are there, but in all versions im afraid Ichi has to die to spur mitsus betrayal and drive his despair, so by extension caesar will die too Still dont understand why the chose Mitsu to give a sidestory, i know im biased, but even in japan, Mitsu isnt that popular in fact lots of people like to troll him, I had rather see more of the star of the west, like arthurs background and caesars backstory with alexander etc etc |
jfsJul 4, 2014 11:22 PM
Jul 4, 2014 11:39 PM
#297
| Indeed. Yeah, that definitely sounds like a prequel. It will probably be that. I'm not going to read the manga version as I'm not the biggest on the anime. Well, I doubt it would be profitable to print the manga as the anime isn't the most popular. The play itself was kinda a misdirection with the shipping. XD Well, with all the charas it has to. Which stinks as I would like for one version that Ichi and Caesar lives ( I don't really want one alive without the other, especially one where Ichi is alive and Caesar dies). And seriously, Mitsu's betrayal did hardly a thing story-wise. During that whole time Cesare Borgia could have been the one there talking to them and it wouldn't have made a difference. Mitsu could have just stabbed Nobu when he was going on that "rampage", he would have done that without going to Arthur's side. He just flopped around. Yeah, I can't figure that. Even the animation director trolls him! It would be kinda funny if it was a troll story, but I doubt it as it sounds serious. They really need to do Arthur's, Caesar's, Alexander's and the rest's back-story as most was just there in the anime. |
Jul 5, 2014 12:27 AM
#298
| Ichi will definitely die, her death is necessary and too big of a plot point to ignore, the only question is will she die with caesar or not. in the play Caesar is still alive but as i said he never got to properly marry and get to know her in the play, Ichis death is more or less inevitable, and if Caesar and her falls in love, its inevitable he will die with her too |
Jul 5, 2014 12:56 AM
#299
| Exactly, unfortunately. I would put my bet on her dying with Caesar. Like you have said, in the play, Caesar is the only antagonist, so I doubt he will survive her. |
Jul 5, 2014 1:03 AM
#300
| Hmm, I like the idea of it being a prequel like you said. Give some more backstory into Kagome and the ninjas along with how Mitsu met Nobu etc... Well so far in the manga I don't remember seeing a panel where Mitsu and Ichi interacted with each other and It's kind of to late since she's already in Caesar's grasp. I'm guessing this will have a different ending like the play and anime are different. Ichi's death is something that depends on both Mitsu and Caesar. To me if the manga doesn't show a Mitsu X Ichi scene in the next chapter or two then I don't think Ichi dying will affect Mitsu's betrayal. While I would love and I'm still hoping for a happy Ichi X Caesar ending. I just don't see it for the simple fact that Caesar is well Caesar XD. He unfortunately has a bigger death flag then Ichi. I'm predicting he gets betrayed again and dies together with Ichi again T_T. If only they did an ending where Nobu/Caesar brought peace and went on to rule their respective stars with their wives from the opposite stars. |
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