DANGER: Official List of Anti-Feminist/Sexist Anime &amp;Manga

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That does sound bad. Anyone else want to weight in? I'd like a second opinion before adding it.

Dec 7, 2014 2:16 AM

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I pretty much agree. I dropped it mostly because that character got away with way too much shit. It gives me a vague feeling of nausea, when somebody is being a total prick and everyone goes along with it. As I said, I didn't watch all of it, so maybe the story has some smart moral later on. I doubt it, though.

Dec 7, 2014 11:50 AM

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Added.

Jan 9, 2015 12:34 AM

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For anyone who reads or watches Akatsuki no Yona, is anyone else bothered by Hak constantly making advances on Yona? And the moments where he treats her as incompetent? I initially liked the story but now it really annoys me. I ended up dropping the manga after chapters 64 and 65. I don't like this couple so I don't want to keep reading, even though I like the other characters. For me, the romance is really ruining everything. I guess I should expect things like this in shoujo...

Jan 11, 2015 2:33 AM

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Not entirely sure if anyone has named it before but I wanted to talk about Hapi Mari (manga).
The male main character is the tortured type, the kind to abused the girl because of personal traumas and stuff. The main female character is just worthless, the kind of girl that even knowing she's being abused once and once again keeps with the man and supports him with no personal ambitions further than that.
Their relation ship is really awful on both sides, including physical violence, verbal violence and other kinds of mistreat. But the worse part of it all is that is portrayed as a relationship every girl would desire, an perfect relationship because in spite of all the abuse and misconduct they still love each other.

I read it all and it's been the time I've been pissed off the most by any manga ever.

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Jan 11, 2015 9:29 AM

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Tsukiaki said:
Not entirely sure if anyone has named it before but I wanted to talk about Hapi Mari (manga). (. . .)

Sure. I'll add it. Any objections?

Jan 14, 2015 8:44 AM

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Daisy_petals said:
For anyone who reads or watches Akatsuki no Yona, is anyone else bothered by Hak constantly making advances on Yona? And the moments where he treats her as incompetent? I initially liked the story but now it really annoys me. I ended up dropping the manga after chapters 64 and 65. I don't like this couple so I don't want to keep reading, even though I like the other characters. For me, the romance is really ruining everything. I guess I should expect things like this in shoujo...

I don't see a problem with Hak really, we have to keep i n mind he's a teenager still if I recall as is Yona herself. I'm actually pretty set on adding it to our 'good' list because it's a GREAT series with a lot of feminist and empowering elements. Hak makes advances on the princess, and he TEASES her. And then she shuts him down every time and proves he's wrong. So I honestly don't see how it's problematic.

Jan 15, 2015 11:26 AM

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Yes I saw it as having empowering moments too, but Hak is always grabbing her and making sexual innuendos. Plus he still has moments where he tries to hold her back and stop her from protecting herself or getting stronger. I don't think the show is sexist, but I think Hak is. And it's obvious that they are endgame. I really disliked how he treated Yona in the latest manga chapters.

Jan 19, 2015 9:50 PM

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So, has anyone seen an anime called "I My Me! Strawberry Eggs"? I ask because I haven't seen this show, but reading the synoposis makes me think it could be either on this list or the feminist friendly list.

On one hand, it does have a main character that cross-dresses and could be read as trans* and apparently stands up against homophobia.

On the other hand, the principal character sounds like a straw feminist because she rants on about how she hates men and appears to be the 'bad guy' of the story. Blegh, I hate it when that happens. And from a review I read, there seems to be some bad fanservice.

Any other opinions?

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Jan 24, 2015 6:06 PM

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@Daisy_petals: Sounds like the Yona manga is a lot different than the anime, or is it just because I'm only in the beginning?

Jan 25, 2015 3:37 PM

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Kaceseev said:
So, has anyone seen an anime called "I My Me! Strawberry Eggs"? I ask because I haven't seen this show, but reading the synoposis makes me think it could be either on this list or the feminist friendly list.

On one hand, it does have a main character that cross-dresses and could be read as trans* and apparently stands up against homophobia.

On the other hand, the principal character sounds like a straw feminist because she rants on about how she hates men and appears to be the 'bad guy' of the story. Blegh, I hate it when that happens. And from a review I read, there seems to be some bad fanservice.

Any other opinions?

It's been more than 5 years since I watched it.From what I remember it doesn't belong to either list. And the main character definitely isn't trans.

Jan 25, 2015 7:21 PM

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any mention of cross ange yet?

dustinator1991 said:
You like hentai for your favorite anime so you have no room to talk.

Jan 25, 2015 8:18 PM

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That one goes without saying. I'll add it.

Jan 30, 2015 10:23 PM

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Earwen said:
It's been more than 5 years since I watched it.From what I remember it doesn't belong to either list. And the main character definitely isn't trans.

Ah! Sorry! I assumed he might be because I read something about him on TvTropes. (There's also the fact that I want reprensentation pretty badly)
Well, jokes on me for trusting TvTropes, huh?

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Feb 1, 2015 2:45 PM

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Kaceseev said:

Earwen said:
It's been more than 5 years since I watched it.From what I remember it doesn't belong to either list. And the main character definitely isn't trans.

Ah! Sorry! I assumed he might be because I read something about him on TvTropes. (There's also the fact that I want reprensentation pretty badly)
Well, jokes on me for trusting TvTropes, huh?

Ah it's fine, and yes I remember watching it as well long ago. I remember it was kinda cute but definitely not for the list. The main character just dressed as a woman to teach at an all-girls' school.

Feb 1, 2015 5:11 PM

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A few words about the Steins;Gate. There may be spoilers and bit of buttheart, but it's OK.

I can't say that Steins;Gate is perfect, but for God's sake, do not put it in one category with SAO. I just cant sleep, until there is a posebilety of it.

And yeah, i am feel sorry for the my clumsy text. In Uganda, English is spoken much better than in my country.

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Feb 1, 2015 5:30 PM

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I don't necessarily disagree with what you have written but did you literally just come to this club to complain about us discussing Steins Gate? Are you just angry that your favorite anime is being called sexist? Really?

Feb 1, 2015 5:43 PM

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Earwen said:
I don't necessarily disagree with what you have written but did you literally just come to this club to complain about us discussing Steins Gate? Are you just angry that your favorite anime is being called sexist? Really?

Nope. I joined the club because there might be interesting people. The narrower the club - the more interesting. It just happens that there is talk about Steins; Gate, so...

Feb 1, 2015 5:50 PM

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Okay that's fine then.
The thing is this is your first post here and it's solely about defending Steins Gate. You have to understand we can't just entertain every random guy (or girl as it might be) who comes in here and demands to know why some anime is on the list. Honestly I was going to let it go if it weren't for your comments on feminism. And I still don't really understand why someone who thinks feminism will result in censorship would want to be here.

Anyway I should reply to the steins gate post sometime. I promised the original poster I would. And you do raise some good points.

Feb 1, 2015 5:59 PM

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Earwen said:
Okay that's fine then.
The thing is this is your first post here and it's solely about defending Steins Gate. You have to understand we can't just entertain every random guy (or girl as it might be) who comes in here and demands to know why some anime is on the list. Honestly I was going to let it go if it weren't for your comments on feminism. And I still don't really understand why someone who thinks feminism will result in censorship would want to be here.

Anyway I should reply to the steins gate post sometime. I promised the original poster I would. And you do raise some good points.

Sorry. I usualy just lurk around, read discussion.

I am not against feminism, I'm just a skeptic by nature. This applies to anything.

By the way, It's been long time since i watching the show for the last time, same with VN. So, in my mind it could all blend into one story. I can't say exactly what was in the anime, and what from VN.

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Feb 1, 2015 6:39 PM

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Original poster here. Thank you for your reply, VelinquenT. While there's definitely some interesting points there that could merit more exploration, I'm hesitant to reply in full to it for a couple of big reasons:

1) As you mention, you've mixed up the anime and VN to some extent. For example, you mention

As another example, and feel free to correct me if I'm misinterpreting your meaning, there also appears to be a contradiction in how you claim that

These types of discrepancies are a big reason why I wrote a decent amount in my reply to Earwen about the general differences between VNs and anime adaptation in general, and how those differences could have a huge effect on our discussions here.

2) Speaking of that reply to Earwen, it appears that your reply was directly to my original post (on page 13) and not to my reply to Earwen (on page 17).

I was certainly angry while composing the original post, and I feel that I refined a lot of my original arguments in the reply. Moreover, in that reply, I directly linked several scenes on Youtube to back up my points.

As a result, for now I'd just like to make you aware of that page 17 reply, if you weren't already, and if you'd still like me to reply to your original post after that, I'll do what I can. However, as it stands, there's only so much I'd be able to do due to the pervasive VN issue in your reply.

Feb 1, 2015 7:21 PM

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engalleons said:
Original poster here. Thank you for your reply, VelinquenT. While there's definitely some interesting points there that could merit more exploration, I'm hesitant to reply in full to it for a couple of big reasons:

1) As you mention, you've mixed up the anime and VN to some extent. For example, you mention

As another example, and feel free to correct me if I'm misinterpreting your meaning, there also appears to be a contradiction in how you claim that

These types of discrepancies are a big reason why I wrote a decent amount in my reply to Earwen about the general differences between VNs and anime adaptation in general, and how those differences could have a huge effect on our discussions here.

2) Speaking of that reply to Earwen, it appears that your reply was directly to my original post (on page 13) and not to my reply to Earwen (on page 17).

I was certainly angry while composing the original post, and I feel that I refined a lot of my original arguments in the reply. Moreover, in that reply, I directly linked several scenes on Youtube to back up my points.

As a result, for now I'd just like to make you aware of that page 17 reply, if you weren't already, and if you'd still like me to reply to your original post after that, I'll do what I can. However, as it stands, there's only so much I'd be able to do due to the pervasive VN issue in your reply.

Well, yes. Mayuri has where to improved. Point is that her character becomes better when it's analyzed. At first glance, she is just a support tool, because the original author is definitely overdone with the depth. What happened here is that the archetype just prevented disclosure of character. Therefore, the key emotions associated with Mayuri - a desire to protect. Too bad, so sad.
But i can't say that is sexsist in a way. Bad writing, perhaps.

Unfortunately, a lot of information in the VN passed down through the texting between characters, by phone. In the anime, it was impossible to implement ...

I read your reply to Earwen just now. I can respond to it fully, but the problem is that we have different views on the same problem. You see a problem where I don't see it, and vice versa. Perhaps I should read it again.

I do not mind if you answer my original post.

VelinquenTFeb 1, 2015 7:32 PM

Feb 2, 2015 4:07 PM

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VelinquenT said:
I can respond to it fully, but the problem is that we have different views on the same problem. You see a problem where I don't see it, and vice versa.

Fair enough. I'll leave it until the next person that wants to champion your (or similar) arguments then.

Feb 4, 2015 6:34 AM

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Okay, I have read your discussion again.
I'm sorry. I broke into the conversation without permission again.

I think that my first message can be viewed as a partial response to the comment on page 17, so here I will only refer to its parts, that I did not mention before.

If you think that you should answer me, then try to take into account both of my posts.

Sorry, I wanted to answer the day before yesterday but I did not have time at all.

Feb 5, 2015 5:28 PM

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The reason I was willing to dig into the details of the show with Earwen on page 17 is that, as far as I know, we’re essentially on the same page as far what sexism is and how it can appear in media. On the other hand, you’ve made quite clear that you are not on that same page. As a result, as you even alluded to yourself, it’s not yet worth digging into details with you. Instead, I’m going to zoom out beyond Steins;Gate and talk about my viewpoints much more generally. If we’re going to get anywhere at all, we’ll need to start here. I’m not going to elaborate on them too much yet, because, to be frank, my assumption is that we’ll find that our viewpoints are too far apart for future discussion to be terribly fruitful. But under certain circumstances, I’ll be willing to go into more detail.

Let’s start with four basic points:

1) A creator’s intent is entirely irrelevant when considering whether a work of media is sexist.

If a work of media has sexist aspects, you cannot simply argue them away by saying that the creator did not intend for those aspects to be sexist for a couple of major reasons:

a) The intent of the creator is not an actual component of the media itself. Obviously, the creator intends to express certain ideas and emotions by creating, and that intent (hopefully) has a large impact on what the work is. But the work ultimately stands by itself, in the context of itself.

b) Sexism, as a mindset and as a driver of actions, is often unintentional. Human mindsets and human actions are caused by an innumerable number of factors, many of which are mostly or entirely unknown when the mindset or action is considered. But those innumerable causes do not in any way dictate the innumerable effects of those mindsets and actions.

As a result, it is entirely possible for a work of media to be sexist without its creator’s ever intending for that to be the case.

2) When a work of media is a stand-alone adaptation, the original work’s sexism or lack thereof is entirely irrelevant when considering whether the adaptation is sexist.

Adaptations of media are not simply one-to-one translations to other mediums. In even the best adaptations, many, many characteristics of the original are lost or distorted. This is inevitable due to differences between mediums.

However, when the adaptation is designed for consumption by itself, without reference to the original work, those lost and distorted aspects of the original work are not aspects of the adaption. They cannot affect the nature of the adaptation, because they are not a part of the adaptation. Therefore, it is entirely possible for an adaptation to be sexist without the original work being sexist.

3) A work of media’s internal justifications are entirely irrelevant when considering whether the work is sexist.

This is almost certainly my most controversial assertion.

It’s easy to forget this sometimes as a viewer, but a creator begins with nothing beyond the inherent constraints of a medium. As a result, the creator has incredible latitude in developing the characteristics of the work. This is particularly true in anime, which is subject to far fewer economic and logistical constraints than live-action films and television series.

But as a result of this latitude, a character’s sexist behavior or mindset cannot simply be explained away by saying that the plot demanded it, that interactions with other characters required it, or that the character’s personality meant that a change wouldn’t make any sense. Plot, character interactions, and character personality are all internal to the work of media, and as a result they can all be easily manipulated by the creator.

This is an incredibly easy trap to fall into sometimes – for example, even with my attitude towards Steins;Gate, I did it in my response to Earwen. But the creator could have changed any of the aspects of the work that led to the “forced” behavior or mindset. Moreover, the character’s behavior or mindset could even be altered in isolation by the creator to not comply with the “force” of the surrounding components. As a result, they really aren’t forced at all.

If done poorly, these sorts of changes could certainly make the work of media less appealing to the viewer. That fact is irrelevant to the question of whether the work is sexist.

You may be thinking that my emphasis on the creator here contradicts my viewpoint in the first point. But the first point was about the creator’s intent. This third point is about the creator’s power over the work of media. They are related but certainly distinct concepts.

4) A work of media's being sexist does not mean that the viewer should not enjoy the work emotionally or critically, or even that the viewer should enjoy the work less.

The sexism or lack thereof of a work of media is merely one of innumerable characteristic of the work. The work can be enjoyed in spite of this characteristic, or enjoyed without consideration of this characteristic. This enjoyment does not inherently reflect poorly on the viewer as a person.

Feb 6, 2015 4:00 PM

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Can I first say Im a new member in this group and your all doing a great job. Ok before I say this anime should be added I actually adore it and its one of my favorite romances/comedy series but I know others in this group might not. Its Hayate the Combat Bulter , two reason as to why it should be added. 1.Nagi is some lolicon depends on how you look at the art (she is 13) and two Nagi (main girl ) is 13 and Hayate (main guy) is 16 and it supports there love (though I heard the manga is taking it sweet time) some are going to say it not good and other says its fine. I dont see a problem since its not pedophilia and is it a 3 year difference but I can understand if one dosnet and I can't speak for the club so thoughs?

Feb 7, 2015 7:16 AM

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Recommendation:

"He is My Master" should really be on the list, since it's so egregiously sexist, much more than the typical harem. Main triggers are:

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Feb 7, 2015 10:19 AM

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I'll add that one. I haven't seen it, but your description pretty much aligns with the reasons that led a person I know to drop it.

What do others think about Hayate, though?

Feb 7, 2015 1:32 PM

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I relised I forgot to mention two more points towards Hayate. I relised this when I going through part of my season 1 collection. 1. Most of the girls are weak. Nagi cant defend herself nor can this purple hair girl. Grant it there around the age of 13 and most cant defend themselves that great. Plus Hayate said some disturbing crap In the first episode but he didnt relise It or mean It and Nagi takes it like its fine. Luckly this is dropped later . 2. Nagi gets kind of fanservice in the beach episodes though they censored it. Also most of the girls in the harem are 13 and 14 and they get some what fanserviced but its censored.

Feb 8, 2015 4:35 AM

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Romance between 13 year old and 16 year old doesn't bother me, and I googled them and they seem to look like they are similar in age. But fanservice of 13 year old girls bothers me. Haven't seen Hayate though.

Feb 8, 2015 7:51 AM

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Hayate is a debatable loli anime because its hard to tell if Nagi is a loli especially if your going off of the anime art but off of the manga its more easier . But all the other school girls and maids in the harem are 14-17 or 18 and look non lolish so I never got that at all . But the fanservice is probamic but it mainly shows up in the beach episodes and a few parts but Maria (she is 17 ) was mainly part of that but Im glad they at least censor it though it still is problematic with that plus most of the girls are weak and Hayate mainly has to help with his Sebastian like powers. But Hayate needs saving to from time to time because he is drowning in debt and 'friendly people' want him so at least Nagi gets to help with her tiger here and there.But I did say in episode one Hayate said some creppy crap like he would kidnap Nagi but he also helps her and loaned his jacket to her and didnt mean it and applogized relising that but not his comments on her and how she looks.

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Feb 11, 2015 7:23 PM

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I dont know this how the club is on double post but I think this sicking anime should be added . I dont know if anyone here has heard of it but its called Loveless and my god its disgusting and I haven't even watched it. I have reasons thanks to a rant so lets list them shall we? 1.Rika or Risa or whatever his name is a shota. I dont mind loli or shota too much as long as they don't get sexuallied too much (and better not at all )or aren't there for the sake of it. Oh boy both applie to him on the spot. 2. A twenty year old in to a 12 year old. Do I need to state why? If this was a 17 or 18 year old with a 20 I could let slide but that is stupid. Now I do have a fetish with the teacher student thing admittedly(if thete 16 or up) but I still know its A.Wrong and B.fucked up especially if not done right but a 12 and 20 year old just no. 3. They apparently try to make it cute and use bondage. I am wordless. And its a yaoi ,Im suppose to think its cute. Hahaha , no. Defense Club, Hetalia, and Free are cute in yaoi undertones. Gauken High is cute (and sadly underrated), Romanitica is cute, hell fricken Fish Water(which was poor) or whatever name it was is more cuter then a pedphiac story.

Feb 12, 2015 7:01 AM

#434

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From what I know, the relationship between Soubi and Ritsuka is disgusting, because it was supposed to be like that. Personally, I rather like Loveless because it shows just how sick and dysfunctional something like that would be, while many manga pretend it's alright or even romanticize it. However, a huge part of fandom ignore it because OMG YAOI, so many people are mislead about it. You are NOT supposed to believe it's cute. It gets even more blatant with Soubi's backstory, which shows that he has a really messed up views on relationships in general (for starters, he fell in love with Ritsuka because he was ordered to). But yeah, the message is often lost, especially since the anime skipped things (and I guess the cutesy art can be blamed, too).

Mar 1, 2015 2:02 PM

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I've just realised Btoooom! is not on the list. If anyone hasn't seen it/read it, I think the opening will be enough to convince everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjpxT23yP_8

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Mar 2, 2015 6:21 AM

#436

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That op is pretty much every "edgy" anime trope ever.

I have no problem adding Btooom!. This is the character description of the female lead in MAL. Not sure if this is funny or sad.

Himiko is a young high school girl. She has bright blue eyes and long, blonde hair, making her look like a foreigner. Her hair is wavy and parted to the right, exposing a part of her forehead. She has small earrings and paints her finger-nails cyan. She has pretty large breasts. Because of her events on the island, she is also covered with small bruises and cuts.

She has only been seen wearing her high school uniform. Her uniform consists of a white buttoned shirt with a small tie around her neck. The tie is dark green and Himiko styled it with an embroided white skull. She also wears a camouflage-colored skirt, that reaches the half of her thighs. She has black, long socks and regular shoes. When her underwear was exposed, it is shown that she wears pink bra panties.

When she and Sakamoto stayed in the deserted building together, she began wearing a white shirt she found in the rations-case. The shirt has a print of a bat on it and reached over her skirt, revealing only a small portion of it.

Mar 2, 2015 9:09 AM

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The last chapter had (again) some ridiculous fanservice: this girl was lying on the sand with an injure in her arm/leg, so this guy, who wears a t-shirt that for some reason is whole and hasn't been damaged, decides that the best bandage he can get to treat her is the underside of her shirt, leaving her with just the upperside and an underboob look. I repeat, his t-shirt was whole and undamaged but he had to rip her shirt to the lengh of an underboob.

If it has solution, don't bother; and if it hasn't, why bothering?

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Mar 2, 2015 10:53 AM

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Tsukiaki said:
The last chapter had (again) some ridiculous fanservice: this girl was lying on the sand with an injure in her arm/leg, so this guy, who wears a t-shirt that for some reason is whole and hasn't been damaged, decides that the best bandage he can get to treat her is the underside of her shirt, leaving her with just the upperside and an underboob look. I repeat, his t-shirt was whole and undamaged but he had to rip her shirt to the lengh of an underboob.

This calls for a character bio update!

After [event she got injured] [guy] ripped [girl]s shirt to bandage her. This left [girl] with visible underboob.

Someone fill the blanks and add it.

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Mar 2, 2015 12:42 PM

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Another good one was when the main characters group was being ambushed by another randoms. The best way to ambush them the randoms could think of was for the men to hide behind trees and for a voluptuous woman to fall on them from a tree. Funny thing is that she fell on a teenager, throwing him to the ground with his head between her thighs. She then threatened the main character's group on suffocating him with her thighs and crotch if they didn't surrender.
I think that'd go to the first place of my absurd fanservice ranking if I had one.

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Mar 2, 2015 4:06 PM

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Tsukiaki said:
A The best way to ambush them the randoms could think of was for the men to hide behind trees and for a voluptuous woman to fall on them from a tree.

What. How would that even work?

...what?

Mar 2, 2015 5:07 PM

#441

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Can we please add death parade on the list? I know people like this show for some reason but it's problematic as hell (pun not intended).

Mar 2, 2015 6:59 PM

#442

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How so?

Mar 12, 2015 10:56 AM

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I haven't watched death parade yet, but i suggest another anime that's airing right now - parasyte. Just the typical: main character, group of girls who are in love with him, but otherwise from that, we know barely anything about them. They have no real depth and their only hobby is to think and talk about MC, worry about him (to the point of absolute ridiculousness), ocasionally getting themselves in trouble just so he can save them. Not to mention this show had the nerve of killing off at least four women so far just to provide for the sake of a good revenge motive for MC or other men.

Mar 12, 2015 11:29 AM

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I really like Parasyte, but it's very much not a feminist story. One of the girls you mentioned, Tachikawa, does have a nice moment where she disarms one of the parasites (one of literally the only moments where it isn't Shinichi doing so). I also thought that Ryoko was an interesting character, even if it was telling that her role in the show's exploration of the parasites related to her having children.

But aside from that, one female character was basically introduced to be killed tragically, Murano mostly seems to be stuck pining for Shinichi, and I can't even figure out why they included Suzuki for any other reason other than making a pseudo-harem for him. One thing that's hurt the show for me in its second half is that it sometimes just feels like yet another "wimpy boy becomes a hero and all the girls lust for him" story; it essentially amounts to him being a superhero, if a reluctant one, and given his prior personality his abilities and prowess can feel a bit too good to be true, even with the in-universe explanation.

As much as I enjoy it, I wouldn't be opposed to adding it. Anybody else have thoughts?

I'm not as sure about Death Parade anymore. I'd thought it was misogynistic because it felt to me like the women were always the ones being blamed, and people convinced me that it wasn't as simple as that: for one thing, the entire show (at least up until episode 9) is about how screwed up and messy the process of "judging" even is. I also think that Nona is a really good character, and it's clear that she's the driver behind the experiment that is Decim's particular bar.

Not saying that it isn't problematic (I don't think I'd ever suggest we add it to our feminist list), but I personally don't think it belongs here. Again, thoughts?

Mar 12, 2015 11:58 AM

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I sadly haven't seen either (though Im waiting for Parasyte to end so I can start a mini marathon since I heard its additicing though I might also wait on a dub) But I have two anime shows I heard of that I think should be added. One is Okkyami(who I know I spelled wronged) san and her seven companions. I heard its really good but when I found out Okkami was raped and this guy who she says didnt and calked her liar I was turned off of it. Grant it we dont know if she was and they left it on an open note. Honestly I would eatch it since it makes fun of fairy tails but if there having rape than Im sorry just no. Another is Future Diary and honestly how I heard they protray rape pisses me off more than Envy dose. They make it a joke infact from everyone who has seen it and it say its a joke and should not exist. I think there badly offensive from what I heard.

Mar 12, 2015 3:27 PM

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I pretty much agree word for word with SarcotarascusN about Parasyte. I don't mind adding Parasyte or Mirai Nikki, though I don't know of the other two.

Mar 12, 2015 4:00 PM

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