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Mar 13, 2009 6:40 PM

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M_A said:
How one rates shows is their own business, really. I rate by enjoyment too. If i had to rate shows for a publication or something, and had to give scores based on artistic merit and directing (which is how i judge actual films), i'm sure i would half most of my scores.
Same here.
Mar 15, 2009 5:31 PM

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LOGH is in third now. yayayay. It must beat TTGL too!
Mar 15, 2009 7:02 PM

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hirahira said:
LOGH is in third now. yayayay. It must beat TTGL too!


and eventually this :P
Mar 15, 2009 7:16 PM

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hirahira said:
LOGH is in third now. yayayay. It must beat TTGL too!


I found a lot of cheating accounts so when I report them Gurren is going to go back up along with some others and some others are going to go slightly down. What the fuck is the point in cheating with ratings? -_-
Mar 15, 2009 7:35 PM

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hirahira said:
LOGH is in third now. yayayay. It must beat TTGL too!
Yeah, LOGH is doing really well. I've gotta see it sometime but I keep delaying it cause its got sooo many episodes.
Mar 15, 2009 7:46 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
hirahira said:
LOGH is in third now. yayayay. It must beat TTGL too!


I found a lot of cheating accounts so when I report them Gurren is going to go back up along with some others and some others are going to go slightly down. What the fuck is the point in cheating with ratings? -_-

LoGH has been slowly catching up on the Kenshin OVA. And I doubt anyone is cheating for LoGH against Kenshin. Neither series have especially rabid fanbases, and most people who like one like the other.

So hopefully LoGH has officially gained another rank.
Mar 15, 2009 10:26 PM

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I can't imagine a LOGH fan being silly enough to cheat.
Mar 16, 2009 12:09 AM

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M_A said:
I can't imagine a LOGH fan being silly enough to cheat.


There are some. But most of the cheaters are the ones rating it low.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73355

I guarantee I missed a lot too.
Mar 16, 2009 1:51 AM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
M_A said:
I can't imagine a LOGH fan being silly enough to cheat.


There are some. But most of the cheaters are the ones rating it low.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=73355

I guarantee I missed a lot too.
You are awesome. It's a shame those idiots who made those accounts wasted your time.
Mar 16, 2009 3:50 AM

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LOGH is now equal to TTGL. But then again, TTGL was heavily trolled recently.
Mar 16, 2009 3:52 AM

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lol @ pathetic people making multiple accounts to troll. if you really think your favorite anime is great enough to be on 1st place, then you shouldn't have a need to cheat to get it to that 1st place :P
Mar 16, 2009 2:50 PM

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5layer said:
LOGH is now equal to TTGL. But then again, TTGL was heavily trolled recently.

YES!WE!CAN!

I'm glad it's doing well, but the whole trolling factor kinda takes the fun out of keeping up with the charts and such.
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LotGH is now #2, soon this will meet the same fate
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LotGH is now #2, soon this will meet the same fate

Nah. LotGH has very few members (and only few people watch old animes), so its easier for people or even an individual to put it down... I doubt the fans of TTGL would sit back and do nothing about it... lol
Mar 17, 2009 7:11 PM

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game8910 said:
LotGH is now #2, soon this will meet the same fate
Not #2 anymore...
Mar 17, 2009 9:35 PM

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lame
Mar 17, 2009 9:54 PM

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the gap between #4 and #5 is pretty big lol...poor aria
Mar 17, 2009 10:48 PM
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game8910 said:
the gap between #4 and #5 is pretty big lol...poor aria

I can say pretty much same thing with TTGL and KnK. lololol
Mar 19, 2009 3:35 AM

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logh is up to 9.01!

this thread needs to be kept alive, i have grown attached to it.
Mar 19, 2009 3:40 AM

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I am so glad that my recent LoGH spree during last weekend was able to contribute to this uprising.
Mar 19, 2009 11:10 AM

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maybe one day it will really be at the top :D
Mar 19, 2009 11:27 AM

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Everybody is getting happy too soon. You forget that the moderators are slow at removing accounts. Just check the thread I posted.
Mar 19, 2009 11:39 AM
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On that note, only Xinil can remove accounts.

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Mar 19, 2009 9:53 PM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
Everybody is getting happy too soon. You forget that the moderators are slow at removing accounts. Just check the thread I posted.

Also, LoGH is going up, rather than TTGL going down. LoGH will still be ahead, I'll bet.
Mar 20, 2009 3:18 AM

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I find it very sad that LoGH got more 1s than KnK 5 did even though it's got half the members. Thats some serious trollage.
Mar 20, 2009 5:54 AM

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LoGH has plenty of 10s from accounts like this one. As soon as they will get removed the rating should go down.
Mar 20, 2009 7:50 AM
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Xinil should really put conditions on the ratings..

eg.
1. user email verification on new registrations,
2. the user can still post, make anime list, etc even email is not verified
3. but if user email not verified, user rating don't count
4. ban all disposable email addresses like temporaryinbox.com
5. (temp condition) ban all user name that has been registered from same ip
temp condition because some people have same ip

its not really a guaranteed condition to stop the trolls, but it should at least slow them down..
Mar 20, 2009 10:44 AM

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^ Eh, probably wouldn't help at all. Email registration is mostly used as an anti bot measure. It only takes a few seconds to verify email. And IP banning has it's own set of problems - especially with ISP's that share IP addresses with multiple users. If you mess around with IP addresses, you might accidentally end up banning a whole group of people from making accounts.
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Also, some people have more than 1 person in their house who use MAL like brothers/sisters/whatever so 1 account per IP isn't really fair on these people.

Also, LOL at these accounts:
http://myanimelist.net/profile/LOGHFTW
http://myanimelist.net/profile/TTGLFTW
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^ Eh, probably wouldn't help at all. Email registration is mostly used as an anti bot measure. It only takes a few seconds to verify email. And IP banning has it's own set of problems - especially with ISP's that share IP addresses with multiple users. If you mess around with IP addresses, you might accidentally end up banning a whole group of people from making accounts.

lol I don't get it. How is it that it wouldn't help? I mean, its a lot harder for trolls to 1. make fake email address, 2. sign up to MAL, 3. verify email address, then troll a series THAN sign up to MAL then troll a series

I know about the IP issues, that's why it says temp beside it.. lol

lol how about this...
1. Automatically set inactive accounts to inactive..
Account goes inactive if:
-> User does not login for a week
-> Anime list stays the same
2. Inactive accounts can still login, can post in forums (or not?), make anime list, etc BUT its ratings does not count, AND it can't change email address
3. Mods can check inactive accounts if account is an obvious troll
-> if account is troll, mods can ban email address
4. To make account active in ratings, the user will have to verify his email address again.

How's that? Checkmate? lol
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Drengot said:
naikou said:
^ Eh, probably wouldn't help at all. Email registration is mostly used as an anti bot measure. It only takes a few seconds to verify email. And IP banning has it's own set of problems - especially with ISP's that share IP addresses with multiple users. If you mess around with IP addresses, you might accidentally end up banning a whole group of people from making accounts.

lol I don't get it. How is it that it wouldn't help? I mean, its a lot harder for trolls to 1. make fake email address, 2. sign up to MAL, 3. verify email address, then troll a series THAN sign up to MAL then troll a series

I know about the IP issues, that's why it says temp beside it.. lol

lol how about this...
1. Automatically set inactive accounts to inactive..
Account goes inactive if:
-> User does not login for a week
-> Anime list stays the same
2. Inactive accounts can still login, make post in forums, make anime list, etc BUT its ratings does not count, AND it can't change email address
3. Mods can check inactive accounts if account is an obvious troll
-> if account is troll, mods can ban email address
4. To make account active in ratings, the user will have to verify his email address again.

How's that? Checkmate? lol


A week is too little. It needs to be at least 1-2 months.
Mar 20, 2009 10:02 PM
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^lol Yeah, you got a point. But it doesn't matter because user can still login, and use MAL's awesome features - post in forums, make anime list, join clubs, add friends, PM users, etc. The only difference with that user is its rating does not count.

Let's add this rule:
1. automatically send notification (email) that account is inactive, click here to make it active again.
-> Will send a notification every week
-> if user does not make its account active in 5th week, mod gets notify
2. Mods can ban email address with the use of wildcard (eg. *@hotmail.com - of course, you wouldn't wanna ban hotmail.... LOL)

Anyways, the only down side of these rules is heavy traffic in mail servers - which may cause MAL's mail servers to crash, or maybe the whole server.. But I heard Xinil made some upgrades, so I don't know.
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They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)

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Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.
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Sohei said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.

Agreed. Long series already have an advantage. And I don't want to have to watch all 844914 episodes of Bleach to say it sucks.
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naikou said:
Sohei said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.

Agreed. Long series already have an advantage. And I don't want to have to watch all 844914 episodes of Bleach to say it sucks.

lol so true.
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naikou said:
Sohei said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.

Agreed. Long series already have an advantage. And I don't want to have to watch all 844914 episodes of Bleach to say it sucks.


For short series it should have to be completed. Either way 1/5 is too short.
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naikou said:
Sohei said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.

Agreed. Long series already have an advantage. And I don't want to have to watch all 844914 episodes of Bleach to say it sucks.


oh look, more bleach bashing, aren't you an original one

I don't think allowing users to rate an anime only after they've completed it is fair. If someone started watching a long series and decided it sucks and wants to drop it at 20 or 30% and voice their opinion that it sucks, they should be able to. You shouldn't have to force someone who genuinely dislikes an anime to complete all of it before you allow them to voice their opinion.

tbh, i think it should be something like, you need to watch at least 2 hours (or all of it, if the anime doesn't last that long) of an anime before your ratings count.

episode 4 or 5 is a reasonable point to stop at as the story or complications in most series would have begun, so if someone wanted to say that a series sucks at this point, it's probably reasonable.

2 hours also isn't that long, so people who genuinely dislikes an anime wouldn't have to sit through too much to rate the anime.
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dxthegreat said:
oh look, more bleach bashing, aren't you an original one

Wasn't going for originality. Just voicing my opinion. I'm entitled to that, having watched at least 100 minutes, right?
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naikou said:
dxthegreat said:
oh look, more bleach bashing, aren't you an original one

Wasn't going for originality. Just voicing my opinion. I'm entitled to that, having watched at least 100 minutes, right?


not saying you were going for originality, i'm just saying you're very original. Sure, you can voice all the bleach bashing opinions in the world if it makes you happy.



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Very well, then. I will.

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Very well, then. I will.

Bleach is fine. Just cause it's too popular for its level of quality doesn't mean it's bad. Theres hundreds of anime worse than Bleach. Although I'm not really much of a bleach fan either...
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dxthegreat said:
naikou said:
Sohei said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
WinterNightsFall said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
They also need to make it so that ratings are only counted if a series is complete. I heard it counts when they rate starting at 6 episodes or something.


"How are top anime/manga scores calculated?
Only scores where a user has completed at least 1/5 of the anime/manga are calculated."

There ya go. ;)


Still too few. It should only count at 100% completed.


If that rules applies, ALL TV and long OVA (>1 episode) series ratings will be over-inflated as only the lovers and hard core critics will finish the series.

Agreed. Long series already have an advantage. And I don't want to have to watch all 844914 episodes of Bleach to say it sucks.


oh look, more bleach bashing, aren't you an original one

I don't think allowing users to rate an anime only after they've completed it is fair. If someone started watching a long series and decided it sucks and wants to drop it at 20 or 30% and voice their opinion that it sucks, they should be able to. You shouldn't have to force someone who genuinely dislikes an anime to complete all of it before you allow them to voice their opinion.

tbh, i think it should be something like, you need to watch at least 2 hours (or all of it, if the anime doesn't last that long) of an anime before your ratings count.

episode 4 or 5 is a reasonable point to stop at as the story or complications in most series would have begun, so if someone wanted to say that a series sucks at this point, it's probably reasonable.

2 hours also isn't that long, so people who genuinely dislikes an anime wouldn't have to sit through too much to rate the anime.

2 hours is too few. A rating shouldn't count at all unless it's complete (excluding still airing series) or they should raise how much an anime has to be watched before a rating counts.
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naikou said:
Very well, then. I will.

Bleach is fine. Just cause it's too popular for its level of quality doesn't mean it's bad. Theres hundreds of anime worse than Bleach. Although I'm not really much of a bleach fan either...

It's quite possibly the most boring, worthless waste of time I've ever spent on anime (Black Cat is the only other contender). Popularity has nothing to do with it. I loved Death Note, Haruhi, and TTGL, for heaven's sake. And don't bring up the fact that it's shounen, either. I liked both Hokuto no Ken and Hunter x Hunter.
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So what? You gave a 9 to Azumanga Daioh and an 8 to Lucky Star, keep saying that you gave few 10, but to be honest you haven't watched many things that really deserve a 10.


Yeah. Let's bring up unrelated ratings in a childish attempt at character assassination.


CODE GEASS IS A MASTERPIECE


It really is. It succeeds beautifully at the most important aspect of anime in general: entertainment.

In any case it's MUCH more of a masterpiece than RahXephon (which you gave a 10) hahahahahaha.
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CODE GEASS FTW!!!
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Sin said:
Neverender said:
Torisunanohokori said:
Wishy said:
So what? You gave a 9 to Azumanga Daioh and an 8 to Lucky Star, keep saying that you gave few 10, but to be honest you haven't watched many things that really deserve a 10.


Yeah. Let's bring up unrelated ratings in a childish attempt at character assassination.


CODE GEASS IS A MASTERPIECE


It really is. It succeeds beautifully at the most important aspect of anime in general: entertainment.

In any case it's MUCH more of a masterpiece than RahXephon (which you gave a 10) hahahahahaha.

entertainment is derived from all the other aspects of an anime. Saying an anime is awesome by claiming "it's got an ok story, sound, animation, characters, but what's most important is that it is entertaining" is pure bullshit.



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dxthegreat said:
Sin said:
Neverender said:
Torisunanohokori said:
Wishy said:
So what? You gave a 9 to Azumanga Daioh and an 8 to Lucky Star, keep saying that you gave few 10, but to be honest you haven't watched many things that really deserve a 10.


Yeah. Let's bring up unrelated ratings in a childish attempt at character assassination.


CODE GEASS IS A MASTERPIECE


It really is. It succeeds beautifully at the most important aspect of anime in general: entertainment.

In any case it's MUCH more of a masterpiece than RahXephon (which you gave a 10) hahahahahaha.

entertainment is derived from all the other aspects of an anime. Saying an anime is awesome by claiming "it's got an ok story, sound, animation, characters, but what's most important is that it is entertaining" is pure bullshit.
Last time I checked, anime has been invented for the purpose of entertainment, and not any other "bullshit".
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