How does Naoto know when Takemichi changed the past?

Oct 4, 2021 9:22 AM

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How does Naoto have memories from other timelines? In episode 12 once Takemichi changed the past, Naoto called him telling him that he changed the past. Since the timeline changed, Naoto shouldn't have any memories of time travelling since it didn't happen in that timeline. Like in other time travelling anime like Steins;Gate other people have no memories of other timelines. So how is this possible?

Oct 4, 2021 9:32 AM

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scar_jpg said:
How does Naoto have memories from other timelines? In episode 12 once Takemichi changed the past, Naoto called him telling him that he changed the past. Since the timeline changed, Naoto shouldn't have any memories of time travelling since it didn't happen in that timeline. Like in other time travelling anime like Steins;Gate other people have no memories of other timelines. So how is this possible?

because he has direct role in takimitchy's power?...maybe not sure

Oct 4, 2021 9:36 AM

Kbraidz

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I would have to agree I feel like the only way it can be something legitimate is if he just like knows unconsciously because of their link. A cannon explanation would be nice though!

Oct 4, 2021 9:42 AM

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This is just a fan theory but basically when Takemichi and Naoto shakes hands, Takemichi goes back to the past but Naoto looses all the memories of him being the trigger for Takemichi and lives a normal life. When Takemichi comes back to the present, the timeline changes and Naoto gets all his memories back and realises about the changed timeline.

Oct 4, 2021 9:46 AM

DoobieSam

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Tbh I feel like this has been answered pretty clearly in the anime. Naoto has repeatedly demonstrated and has said that he remembers everything, same as Takemitchy.

Oct 4, 2021 9:49 AM

Kitsune_089

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yeah it makes no sense, this series isnt that good at the writing department just close your brain while watching it, best way to enjoy it ngl

Oct 4, 2021 9:50 AM

Gween_Gween

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I doubt that the author thought too much about it, but the way I solve such contradiction is by making this kind of theory:
1. Takemitchy shakes hands with Naoto in timeline A
2. Takemitchy travels to timeline B and start to change it
3. Takemitchy comes back to timeline B and when it shakes hands with Naoto, the consciousness of Naoto collapses to timeline B, basically remembering the timeline A.

It makes 0 sense to be like that, mostly because he should remember both A and B and live in constant mandela effect, but I would say that it is the most logical solution. Honestly I wouldnt even think further with the time travel, the butterfly effect is so inconsistent that it shouldnt be taken as anything but a device to make you know the consequences of his actions and as a misery porn dose

Oct 4, 2021 10:00 AM

makech17

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through the power of friendship 😌

Oct 4, 2021 10:03 AM

ducoloud

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naoto literally is the key to takemichis power so its obvious he would keep the memories. its different from okabes reading steiner ability.

Oct 4, 2021 10:13 AM

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lol don't find logic TR's time travel is one of the shittiest I've ever seen , looks like the author was coming up with direct ideas while writing , ignore it

Oct 4, 2021 10:15 AM

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He's the key to Takemichi's power. When Takemichi is back to the present, Naoto feels his memories and reality change and that's how he knows. Somewhere in the manga, can't recall about the anime, he says that he knew Takemichi was back because he felt his own memories get weird, he retains his memories of the previous past and present

Oct 4, 2021 11:03 AM

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I don’t know if they said this in the anime but I remember in the manga that Naoto said once Takemitchy is back in the future then memories that he didn’t have before suddenly floods back in his head.

"No matter how hard things get, only use your strength to protect" - Mitsuya Takashi

Oct 4, 2021 11:30 AM

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SpecreaX

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Because he said it before to naoto and then this was like saved and naoto does‘nt say it from the other future but from the past

Oct 4, 2021 11:36 AM

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4Tad

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Idk but like everyone said is because Naoto is the key, although i hope a clearer explanation in the manga or anime

Be gentle w me if u get angry for my answers

Oct 4, 2021 11:43 AM

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agensi

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ok my theory is that takemichi told a young naoto that his sister would die on a certain date so if she is still alive then he would now that he changed the future just by trusting takemichi’s truth right?

Oct 4, 2021 12:47 PM

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Kitsune_089 said:
yeah it makes no sense, this series isnt that good at the writing department just close your brain while watching it, best way to enjoy it ngl

nah lol it’s pretty obvious that he remembers bc he’s literally the trigger for the time travel and they have a connection, so it’s pretty straight forward

Oct 4, 2021 12:47 PM

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Kitsune_089 said:
yeah it makes no sense, this series isnt that good at the writing department just close your brain while watching it, best way to enjoy it ngl

nah lol it’s pretty obvious that he remembers bc he’s literally the trigger for the time travel and they have a connection, so it’s pretty straight forward

Oct 4, 2021 1:35 PM

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mikaela_lgk

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The future changes atm when Takemichi travels back to it

Oct 4, 2021 2:15 PM

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babe! It is plot hole, this anime literally has 0 logic and thousands of plot holes which irritates me and is one of the reason why i dont really enjoy this anime/manga tho the story is pretty dramatic and a good show for time pass but without logic lol!

And it is pretty much high rated in this site 😒 (overrated)

Oct 4, 2021 2:24 PM

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The more you try to make sense of time travel the more your head hurts by how much it doesn't make any sense. Better ignore it and just look at it as a plot device
I'm not just talking about tokyo revengers but all time travel shows in general

Oct 4, 2021 5:17 PM

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Shattered_echo

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Ive always thought it was because of the fact tachemichi told him how and when hinita died in the original time line.

Oct 4, 2021 6:09 PM

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NezukoMikasa

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I think that, Naoto experiences life in Timeline A, then, when Takemitchi does something that causes the real timeline to become Timeline B, Naoto and his consciousness immediately shifts to the new timeline. Time moves at the same rate for both of them, so it shouldn’t be a problem. The shift is probably a lot like when Takemichi shakes Naoto’s hand and his consciousness shifts to his younger self.

Oct 4, 2021 6:31 PM

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GR7366

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because he has a major role in takemichis abilities

Oct 4, 2021 9:39 PM

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Jontayy

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This series has so many plot holes hopefully it is explained in the manga

Oct 5, 2021 5:00 AM

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DiamondFrost

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slight spoilers

In a future timeliness Naoto says his future changed in an instant when Takemichi came back

Oct 5, 2021 8:07 AM

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Obviously Plot armor:)

Oct 5, 2021 9:38 AM

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Yonatan24

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I think because Takemichi told him in episode 1 that his sister's gonna die and when she doesn't die in the future he knows that Takemichi changed the time line, but I'm not sure.

Oct 5, 2021 9:44 AM

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Yeah I agree they have not explained. But since Time travel itself is not explained fully yet. So Maybe in final arc they may explained it. There is another weird powers which takemichi got in manga later on in manga too. So I am expecting of all that explained in finale

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Oct 5, 2021 10:01 AM

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Jontayy said:
This series has so many plot holes hopefully it is explained in the manga

No,Manga has no explanation for the plot holes.

Oct 5, 2021 9:33 PM

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In manga naoto says that when takemichy comes back to the future his memories are altered with new memories... As he is "one" of the trigger 😝😝😝 Heheheheh...

Oct 5, 2021 9:51 PM

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this is my theory. the only way to trigger Takemichi power to go back to the past is by shake or holding hand with him. perhaps he's have something part of it to do with Take's time travel power.
it's like Takemichi have half and require the other half to fully activate the power. and if he have other half of the power. well, you know the rest.

Oct 5, 2021 9:52 PM

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KinjiKido

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by the way, recently we have too much anime with cliffhanger ending on final episode don't you think.
Spirit Chronicle
The Itaden Deity
Tokyo Revenger.
and one thing for certain that no annouce for sequel to pick off the cliffhanger.

Oct 6, 2021 3:51 AM

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I kinda gave up already on trying to make sense of how time travel works in this because it just makes no sense but yall saying Naoto's memories of the current itmeline "come to him" the moment Takemichi returns to the present makes the fact that Takemichi doesn't seem to remember anything even more frustrating, since his memories should return as well.

But we can see that doesn't happen and you have to deal with a completly clueless Takemichi going around in the future all confused and no one seems to find it weird that they have to tell him what happened in moments he was supposedly PRESENT in '-'

It's treated as if Takemichi is part of the audience and not a character that was actually in the story.

See how that doesn't make sense?

but anyway, better not think too much about it i guess

"In the past few months since we met, I've shared many memories with Nagato. Though I've also shared memories with Haruhi, Asahina-san and Koizumi, I found that I've experienced more events with Nagato in particular. In fact, every situation seems to involve her. I might as well mention this, she's probably the only person to cause the bell within me to shake the most vigorously..." ~ Kyon, TMOSH

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