| I was so hyped for this show because it was going to be a pure nuts to buts adrenaline rush fight scenes, but I was let down. Like really let down. There is no animation in this show. Only still frames being paned from left to right. I won't deny the art in the still frames looks pretty good. I won't deny that the music and the voice acting really good too. But, anime is anime because there is animation, which this show lacks a lot. This show is a PowerPoint presentation that just added color to the manga panel. I am really sad because this could have been a really good show from the first 18 chapters I have read of Record of Ragnarok. I'm not an animation nerd that criticizes at every single flaw since a) I'm okay with passable animation and b) I don't need animators to overwork themselves. But, this fails to pass the low bar I have set, which jut goes to show how bad it is. I don't know how you can defend this adaptation? |
| Same honestly this shit was beyond horrendous. As a manga reader I was hyped asf for the Adam vs Zeus fight just to be bombarded by still frames and non existent animation. I don't understand how these type of projects get the thumbs up to be released. |
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| I wasn't too hopeful just going by the PVs lol. They really couldn't sell this animation-wise and the drawings were really detailed. Had an awful feeling we'd pretty much be getting the static treatment lol. |
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| There were two options in this case: 1- Use CGI or limited animation to keep the quality of the designs up as much as possible and then people complain about the stills. 2- Or do a lot more frames with more dynamic and fluid animation but losing most of the detail in the way and then people complain about "bad animation" because it has no detail. |
Karnox001Jun 17, 2021 4:42 PM
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| yeah I’m just going to skip this shit, I saw some clips and man is it horrendous |
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Karnox001 said: the manga of one punch man and jojo are very detailed, and yet their adaptations are good and I have not seen anyone complain about the animation.There were two options in this case: 1- Use CGI or limited animation to keep the quality of the designs up as much as possible and then people complain about the stills. 2- Or do a lot more frames with more dynamic and fluid animation but losing most of the detail in the way and then people complain about "bad animation" because it has no detail. |
 a wise user of MAL said: Just to clarify, adaptations should absolutely stand on their own |
Phlaryx said: Karnox001 said: There were two options: 1- Use CGI or limited animation to keep the quality of the designs up as much as possible and then people complain about the stills. 2- Or do a lot more frames with more dynamic and fluid animation but losing most of the detail in the way and then people complain about "bad animation" because it has no detail. The only rational person in these threads right here^ everyone just keeps crying but we can’t really have both high detail AND fluid animation at once. It’s either one or the other. And either way, people are gonna whine and complain that it isn’t fucking demon slayer or mob psycho levels of animation. As a manga reader I’m happy with what we got. Could it be better? Sure. Of course. But is it bad? Not at all. Where did I ask for high detail and fluid animation in my op. No where because I know that is not possible without overworking animators to death. You maybe happy with the adaptation, but most aren't. I would understand the usage of low frames such as the previous netflix adaptation of Way of the Husband or something like that since there is no action. But, the manga is built off to be a good fighting series, and if they can't translate that to decent animation in anime then it is a failure in my eyes. To achieve this vison that so many fans of this series, we would need a comparable character designer, which the production was not able to find one. Had they found one, they would create character designs that capture just the right amount of detail while not being too taxing to animate. Just look at AOT season 1-3. While they were never able to encapsulate all the little design elements, they captured enough to make it look beautiful and make really cool action sequences. |
Niello said: Karnox001 said: There were two options in this case: 1- Use CGI or limited animation to keep the quality of the designs up as much as possible and then people complain about the stills. 2- Or do a lot more frames with more dynamic and fluid animation but losing most of the detail in the way and then people complain about "bad animation" because it has no detail. 4. Redesign the characters with less details so they can actually be animated, not keep virtually everything. Sure, the detailed muscle shadings look cool, but do we really need that over animation? They could tone down shading, tone down certain part of the design. With a skilled character designer it should be possible to reduce the details while retaining or adding some cool stuff to keep the feel. That's not the same as having no details at all. Exactly. It does not be a one to one of the manga. It just needs to be an adaption of the manga. |
Edgyson said: You guys suck. We all know that the fights in manga was nearly impossible to animate but the studio did their best in this. Honestly it's pretty good, It's just you guys expect something greater that made you disappointed. For me I'll give this 8/10. It was possible to animate every fight because it’s only one on one, The fight isn’t chaotic like Chainsaw Man or bloody hell like Berserk, There aren’t multiple people fighting like One Punch Man, there are only two. It’s definitely possible to animate it, it’s just that Studio Graphinica wasn’t up to the challenge. |
| Ok, I will take back all the bullshits i said about Kengan Ashura adaptation, at least they have a good animation for the figths, and that's what matters most for battle seinen or shounen. |
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| This post and hate train is getting real tiring at this point and its fucking annoying at this point. I'm sorry for the language but I had to say it. 10 seconds. 10 seconds at the end of the Adam vs Zeus fight of still shots, and all of a sudden, everyone online in every anime fandom declares the entire anime bad. Did you know there were two perfectly fine fights included in this anime? Cause from my perspective, they seemed perfectly fine, Along with the beginning and middle parts of the Adam vs Zeus fight. And then you have Manga Elitist touting the manga like the bible saying "See! I told you it wouldn't be as good as the manga!" And it just further proves the point of why most anime fandoms are toxic. Going by these 12 episodes alone, the anime imo is a 7 or 8, Everyone overreacted and put unrealistic scenarios in there head. |
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Niello said: Holymonark97 said: This post and hate train is getting real tiring at this point and its fucking annoying at this point. I'm sorry for the language but I had to say it. 10 seconds. 10 seconds at the end of the Adam vs Zeus fight of still shots, and all of a sudden, everyone online in every anime fandom declares the entire anime bad. Did you know there were two perfectly fine fights included in this anime? Cause from my perspective, they seemed perfectly fine, Along with the beginning and middle parts of the Adam vs Zeus fight. And then you have Manga Elitist touting the manga like the bible saying "See! I told you it wouldn't be as good as the manga!" And it just further proves the point of why most anime fandoms are toxic. Going by these 12 episodes alone, the anime imo is a 7 or 8, Everyone overreacted and put unrealistic scenarios in there head. Except it's not 10 seconds. How can you watch it and then say that it's just 10s of still frame is beyond me. Also, your logic is extremely egoistical. Because you think a certain way, automatically it should be what other people think? Seriously. You are one person, one single person. Saying you like it is fine. Saying because you like it other people shouldn't express opposing opinions is toxic. Use a mirror. Except literally everyone is expressing toxic opinions ie "Anime bad, 0/10 hurr durr read the manga instead." How that isn't toxic is beyond me. And i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who thinks this anime was "okay" so quit the assumption that i'm the only one with that opinion And this whole Forum has been hive mind with the same talking points over and over again. Of course its annoying to keep hearing the same parrot talking points being touted out. And yes the 10 second frame was taken out of 30 minutes of context, spread around, and was used as a a basis to not watch the anime because of it. Everyone mostly formed there opinion based on that. |
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