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Nov 27, 2010 4:42 AM
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I wanted to hear everyone's opinion on who's smarter between these two people who I found are pretty similar to each other.
Lelouch of Code Geass or Light of Death Note?
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Nov 27, 2010 4:43 AM
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Light, because he is smarter and he doesn't let his emotions get in the way of what he does.
Nov 27, 2010 4:49 AM
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AlexSadist-sama said:
Light, because he is smarter and he doesn't let his emotions get in the way of what he does.


Really? I asked this to someone before and they said...
NemesisXIV said:


That's a hard one since they're very similar but I would have to say Lelouche because Light let his emotions get in the way of his tactical decisions where as lelouch remained objective.


And he said it on the other character...
Nov 27, 2010 4:49 AM
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Lelouch. His anime lasted longer.
Nov 27, 2010 4:52 AM
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I'd have to say lelouch because of the fact that he accomplished his main goal and was willing to die for it unlike light who was pretty cowardly in the end. although im sure that lelouche could have avoided what happened to him possibly but i doubt he would be happy with that decision either.... it's hard to stay vauge sometimes when you are trying to get your point accross. i wan to go into detail. oh well thats my answer.
Nov 27, 2010 4:59 AM
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I think that Lelouch's taking responsibility for his actions is a sign of great intellect among other things. Lelouch tried to bring order from chaos, whereas Light didn't really give a crap either way.

Also, Light didn't realize that turning himself into a god would ultimately only cause more chaos, leading to more crime and more death.

Also, Lelouch didn't fail in the end. But you can't really blame Light for failing, either :p
Nov 27, 2010 5:00 AM
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L > Light + Lelouch

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The window, the window shopping! Hooo!
Nov 27, 2010 5:04 AM
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Light.
'Cause the genius is an inherent psycho and megalomaniac, plus he does things discreetly and stylishly- Lelounch on the other hand, i haven't finish watching yet but just the helmet makes me lol- i can't take him seriously-
Nov 27, 2010 5:59 AM
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Light is clearly smarter, he's not as comically inept as Lelouch. I'd make a rant about it, but I think I'll rather just second this
lollypatrolly said:
Both are quite lacking in the intellect department, but light is by far smarter on account of not being just as much of a blistering retard...


Also, I'd say Light failed in the end because of his hubris (And the retardedly overpowered plot device character that was Near), while Lelouch simply failed to even pull off intelligent plans at all. I mean, he showed virtually Zero (That pun never gets old) aptitude for strategy and made several rash and eclectic decisions that ended up putting him in needless trouble, as well as being needlessly belligerent and getting himself in more fights than necessary. Anyone who's ever played a RTS would probably do a better job. Blind Zerg rushes that relies on wasting your forces until you've lured the enemy into some silly oneshot terrain gambit isn't exactly sound strategy.
Nov 27, 2010 6:20 AM

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Neither was smart. Lelouch took the whole 50 episode approach to trying to do whatever the hell he was doing which could've been easily done in 5 max with his power.

I can understand Light would've taken a bit more than 5 eps with his power. That said, he turned into an idiot after L died and most of his tactics failed to make any sense anymore.
Nov 27, 2010 6:23 AM

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5layer said:
Neither was smart. Lelouch took the whole 50 episode approach to trying to do whatever the hell he was doing which could've been easily done in 5 max with his power.

I can understand Light would've taken a bit more than 5 eps with his power. That said, he turned into an idiot after L died and most of his tactics failed to make any sense anymore.


THE QUESTION WAS "WHO WAS SMARTER" NOT "ARE THESE GUYS SMART"


AND LELOUCH BECAUSE HE
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Nov 27, 2010 6:24 AM

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5layer said:
Neither was smart. Lelouch took the whole 50 episode approach to trying to do whatever the hell he was doing which could've been easily done in 5 max with his power.

I can understand Light would've taken a bit more than 5 eps with his power. That said, he turned into an idiot after L died and most of his tactics failed to make any sense anymore.
Nov 27, 2010 6:36 AM

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Laelaps said:
THE QUESTION WAS "WHO WAS SMARTER" NOT "ARE THESE GUYS SMART"


AND LELOUCH BECAUSE HE PLANNED HIS DEATH, LIGHT JUST FAILED AND DIED.


Nov 27, 2010 6:39 AM

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Laelaps said:
AND LELOUCH BECAUSE HURDURR, LIGHT JUST FAILED AND HERPADERP.
Isn't it the other way around?
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Nov 27, 2010 6:39 AM

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ITS SHIFT, NOT CAPS LOCK. FUNNY PIC THOUGH.
Nov 27, 2010 6:39 AM

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I would have to say I think that Light is smarter than Lelouch. My first thoughts were that L and Lelouch were being compared(misread). Out of the 3 I would definitely pick L though.
Nov 27, 2010 6:40 AM

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Waiitanai said:
Laelaps said:
THE QUESTION WAS "WHO WAS SMARTER" NOT "ARE THESE GUYS SMART"


AND LELOUCH BECAUSE HE PLANNED HIS DEATH, LIGHT JUST FAILED AND DIED.




And also, that's for the fucking massive spoiler you just dropped. Not that I fucking cared about these two shitty anime characters and the anime they inhabit.
Nov 27, 2010 6:44 AM

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Moimy said:


And also, that's for the fucking massive spoiler you just dropped. Not that I fucking cared about these two shitty anime characters and the anime they inhabit.



WOOPS MY MISTAKE. WELL ITS FIXED NOW. IN MY POST ANYWAY.
Nov 27, 2010 6:58 AM

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Baman said:
Laelaps said:
AND LELOUCH BECAUSE HURDURR, LIGHT JUST FAILED AND HERPADERP.
Isn't it the other way around?

Whether or not he's dead is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Nov 27, 2010 7:27 AM

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GreenJoker said:
L > Light + Lelouch

:P


QFT .....

L ftw
Nov 27, 2010 7:30 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:33 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:33 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:33 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:33 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:33 AM

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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
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geno93n0 said:
Whether or not he's HERPDERP is still hotly in debate. Maybe he had a Union Plume or a New-U Station stashed somewhere :p
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.
Nov 27, 2010 7:40 AM

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You know, I think the human mind can basically be summed up like this:

Can you have sex with it?
If yes: Awright!
If no: Move on to the next question.

Can you eat it?
If yes: Omnomnom
If no: But then what's the point of it!?
もののあはれ。。。
Nov 27, 2010 7:46 AM

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Lol @ Baman's nontuple post XD

Baman said:
Hardly. The creators even stated that he was. Obviously, any ambiguity on that part was only thrown in there to please the fangirls who didn't want him to be.
...Which pretty much sums up the entire content of the series actually, that is, made to shamelessly pander to fans and throwing story and character writing out the window to make room for more flashy twists and melodrama to keep the viewers pumped.

Bah, animators and writers all over the world say that all the time. It's more common in Western comics, but retroactive continuity does exist. That New-U station is just around the bend :p
Nov 27, 2010 8:15 AM

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Lelouch. Light got bitch-killed, and his face was all 'OMG' when he died.

Nov 27, 2010 8:26 AM

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AlexSadist-sama said:
Light, because he is smarter and he doesn't let his emotions get in the way of what he does.


Smart said, i agree.
Nov 27, 2010 10:13 AM
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Ash, because him and Pikachu are still standing tall.
Nov 27, 2010 10:54 AM

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lollypatrolly said:
MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR CODE GEASS:

And even if such a chaos doesn't break out (Seeing how only the Britannian areas would likely be thrown into chaos, the EU and the recently contested territories would likely just return to their old governments), the sacrifice would still not mount up to anything other than a brief peace at best.
So in the end, the effort was a wasted one, waging such a big and completely unnecessary war only for such a fleeting and pointless cause.

But who are we kidding, it's not as if there's any thought behind the plot, they just cooked it up by throwing in as much flashy shit, fanservice and LOLTWIST as they could think of.
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Lol @ Baman's nontuple post XD
Bah, animators and writers all over the world say that all the time. It's more common in Western comics, but retroactive continuity does exist. That New-U station is just around the bend :p
Yea, blame the laggy MAL-function.
Sure, but until that happens, the official explanation is still the right answer. And besides, there should be a limit to how many contrived revivals they can throw in. Some of the ones that are already in the series were retarded enough, but this time there's hardly room for doubt, no falling down a cliff or disappearing in a explosion or anything.
Nov 27, 2010 11:15 AM

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Lelouch is smarter, even if he is dead he planned his death and his plans succeed.
Anyway Light wanted to get away with mass murder, which he didn't in the end and Lelouch ended up ruling half the world.
Nov 27, 2010 11:28 AM

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Both men lives in the shadow of Reinhard von Lohengramm
Nov 27, 2010 11:33 AM

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It's hard to compare these characters, they're so different from each other after all.

Ok, they both wanted to create an utopia. I think that's only similarity between Light and Lelouch.

So my answer is the both of them are equally intelligent, but in different ways.

Nov 27, 2010 12:49 PM
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Well, I think the discussion is going rather offtopic, since the original question was who's smarter.

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Both men lives in the shadow of Reinhard von Lohengramm


and yang wen-li
Nov 27, 2010 1:24 PM
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Light. Nuff said. :P
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5layer said:
Neither was smart. Lelouch took the whole 50 episode approach to trying to do whatever the hell he was doing which could've been easily done in 5 max with his power.
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Yeah....but Lelouch fulfilling all that in 5 episodes would not have been anywhere near as entertaining. Funnily enough...the characters in an anime have no control of how many episodes there will be haha.
Nov 27, 2010 1:41 PM

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Lelouche because his ultimate plan was not ruined by a kid pulling hat tricks out of his ass.
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KaizokuBeatle said:
5layer said:
Neither was smart. Lelouch took the whole 50 episode approach to trying to do whatever the hell he was doing which could've been easily done in 5 max with his power.
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Yeah....but Lelouch fulfilling all that in 5 episodes would not have been anywhere near as entertaining. Funnily enough...the characters in an anime have no control of how many episodes there will be haha.


It's a problem when the authors genuinely try to portray the character a genius, while he acts like he is functionally retarded. Being forced to permanently dribble the idiot ball makes him very weak and unbelievable as a character, because there's such a discrepancy between the stupidity of his actions and how the audience is lead to believe that he's not in fact stupid.


Yeah Code Geass is definitely one of the more far fetched and unbelievable animes. Characters are not very real and you certainly won't see them in the real world. But hey, who cares, its entertainment. Code Geass is one of my favourite animes because it entertained me, over-analysing any show will always make it look bad. I mean the scene where Lelouch uses his Geass on Euphemia by accident is hard to overlook when it comes to stupidity...but I like to take the show for what it was supposed to be (unless its just plain bad, which Code Geass certainly wasn't in my opinion).
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lollypatrolly said:
It's a problem when the authors genuinely try to portray the character a genius, while he acts like he is functionally retarded. Being forced to permanently dribble the idiot ball makes him very weak and unbelievable as a character, because there's such a discrepancy between the stupidity of his actions and how the audience is lead to believe that he's not in fact stupid.
Wow, nice to see someone filling in when I'm not around. That's pretty much exactly what I'd say myself.
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Yeah Code Geass is definitely one of the more far fetched and unbelievable animes. Characters are not very real and you certainly won't see them in the real world. But hey, who cares, its entertainment. Code Geass is one of my favourite animes because it entertained me, over-analysing any show will always make it look bad. I mean the scene where Lelouch uses his Geass on Euphemia by accident is hard to overlook when it comes to stupidity...but I like to take the show for what it was supposed to be (unless its just plain bad, which Code Geass certainly wasn't in my opinion).
I don't know about lollypatrolly, but for my part, these things became a problem because CG pretended to be all complicated and intellectual from the start. As such, I naturally expected something more out of it, and for large parts of the first season, things seemed to be going in a good direction. But then it suddenly devolved into brainless plot twists full of holes both in story and character writing.
You won't see me complaining about how TTGL was unrealistic and over the top, because it was obviously like that from the start. And if CG had been honest about being a shallow fan-fueled cheesefest parodying "intellectual" anime from the start, I wouldn't have complained.
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Neither. They're both as dumb as each other, and they're both designed to make kids feel that they're in some way superior to the adults around them (this is not a joke btw, as I've encountered many fans of both and that's pretty much how a lot of the teenaged ones think - of course there are always exceptions ... ).

Seriously, Light never went after the real criminals, nor did he try to find out what the cause of criminal behaviour was in the first place. He simply assumed, like any child would, that punishing the criminals in a certain way would lead to crime becoming a thing of the past. Unfortunately a method like that doesn't really work on humans. Go figure.

As for Lelouche, if he's supposed to be a chess genius, then why is he such a shit strategist and tactician? If chess teaches you to plan ahead and calculate all possible outcomes, then how come he kept getting surprised by one thing or another (the whole murder princess bit for example).

@ Swordwielder

Your poll left out one important option. Neither.
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@ Swordwielder

You're poll left out one important option. Neither.


smartest reply posted so far

jpem said:
Confucius said:
Both men lives in the shadow of Reinhard von Lohengramm


and yang wen-li


it would be overkill if these guys were part of the poll
Nov 27, 2010 7:34 PM

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It's obviously Light because unlike Lelouch, he finished high school.
Nov 27, 2010 8:05 PM

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both are dead ...so ...nobody
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I vote for Light.
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