Peach Girl
| ...sleep together when Momo ended up staying in the same room as him; when the typhoon hit and Momo was depressed about Kairi not turning up on time? First they cleaned themselves up, then they kissed, followed by them falling on the floor together... and then it was morning. And Momo looked VERY happy with herself when she was holding hands with him on the way to the station. Until that episode, I liked Momo a lot. I thought it took a lot of guts on her part for her to try to make the relationship with Kairi work; in spite of him seemingly being in love with another woman. I could even understand why she reacted how she did after Kairi left in a taxi with the woman she thought was his true love; no matter what reasons Kairi had. The mangaka did a wonderful job of not making her look like a slut for switching between Kairi and Toji. Even during the episode in question, the mangaka made sure to force Momo and Toji into a room together after Toji followed; not having Momo invite him on the rebound. ...BUT, for her to have sex with Toji on the same day she had planned to go on a trip with Kairi, and to be all happy about it the next day, left a bad taste in my mouth. I know; she had feelings for both, and she would've still been with Toji/slept with him anyway if not for Sae, but it's not cool to jump into bed with another guy when she had been planning her future with Kairi only a few hours before. Kairi didn't really have a right to be too angry after the way he'd messed Momo around over his childhood crush for so many weeks, but I was kind of surprised he didn't get angry over being left with used goods. Is it so wrong for the romantic in me to have wanted Momo's first (2D) time to have been with the ever lovable Kairi; her true love? :/ |
AironicallyHumanMar 30, 2010 4:31 AM
| That episode was dissapointing indeed.. extremelly frustrating that she'd leave like that before hearing for explanations. Reminds me of an episode in Bokura ga Ita. |
| I don't think they slept together. In episode 22 there's a similar situatiion when Touji invites Momo to his room to watch a movie. They end up kissing and slowly falling to the floor but before it can go any further she pushes him off then they both turn away from each other. They looked more like an inexperienced couple still with inhibitions, not like one that's gone all the way previously. |
 ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| But that's the problem: she doesn't push him off in the hotel room... at least not in the anime, anyway. - A hotel room - The two having showered - The two being as good as naked; there not being much to remove - The two being shown kissing; falling to the floor - The guy mentioning his regret about not having screwed her previously - And, last but not least, the heroine being ready to throw herself at T in order to forget K ...If you put all these together, then it seems fairly obvious what happened. The only thing that makes me hopeful it didn't is that the anime is an adaptation; meaning the manga might show the scene differently. |
AironicallyHumanApr 11, 2010 6:24 AM
Aironic said: But that's the problem: she doesn't push him off in the hotel room... at least not in the anime, anyway. - A hotel room - The two having showered - The two being naked - The two being shown kissing; falling to the floor - The guy mentioning his regret about not having screwed her previously - And, last but not least, the heroine being ready to throw herself at T in order to forget K ...If you put all these together, then it seems fairly obvious what happened. The only thing that makes me hopeful it didn't is that the anime is an adaptation; meaning the manga might show the scene differently. They weren't naked. She still had her nightwear on. And where does he mention regret not having sex previously? He mentions how he regrets answering the phone on the day of her birthday and choosing not to go with her which lead to their breakup. |
| ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| I meant, 'The two were as good as naked' - I was tired. To put it another way: they were clean and there wasn't much to remove. And, with K not getting in the way/there being no interruptions shown... ...I might be wrong here, but weren't they holding hands the next morning? Something must've have happened to make them get that close again after one night. There's usually a big deal made of physical contact, and it would've been strange for them to just get to that stage again so fast otherwise. I watched it dubbed, and T said something along the lines of this (I should check, but I'm a lazy sod): "I regret answering the phone that night because, if I hadn't, we wouldn't have stopped, and we'd still be together. And if I'd gone with you..." There was even a a brief flashback of the two being on the floor together/kissing from when they were about to do it on Momo's birthday previously. |
AironicallyHumanApr 11, 2010 6:23 AM
| Well here are the lines from the dub Cell phone rings Momo: Touji, aren't you going to answer that? It's the third time it's rang. Touji: No. Momo: But what if it's something important? Touji: Listen Momo there's nothing more important to me in the world than being with you right now. Do you realize that to this day I still dream about the night of your birthday party? Every time I think of it I'm overwhelmed with regret. If only I hadn't answered the phone. If only I had chosen to go along with you. Then you and I would have never broken up. I don't want to lose you again. He looks at her earrings Touji: You wore these that night. Momo: Oh, yeah, I can't believe you actually remember. That's so sweet. Touji: When it comes to you Momo I remember everything. Momo: Touji... and that's where they kiss and fall to the floor. Funny thing I discovered while typing all that and looking back, Touji wasn't the one who answered the phone. It was Momo who answered when Sai called. That dialog mistake aside, from the time they enter the inn to when they exit there was no flashback from her birthday of them on the floor kissing. It's true they did leave hand in and and she says to herself at that time "With Touji I can find happiness. He's always taken care of me, always been at my side." But even then she still has doubts on the train ride back as she thinks "But am I doing the right thing? The part of me that loved Kairi is telling me not to trust these feelings. I never actually told Kairi that we were breaking up. But I can't hold off on some hope that it will work with him." With nothing but inferences to go off coupled with her misgivings and how she rejects him in episode 22 makes me think Touji didn't manage to hit all the bases. But that's just my thoughts on it. As you mentioned there is a manga and it may play out differently. |
| ...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work. |
| On a semi-related, dub note: there was a big error earlier on in the series. When Toji speaks to Momo through the fence, after Sae finally loses interest in him, in the dub he mentions the photos Sae had blackmailed him with. Momo didn't react, and that was down to Momo not being made aware of what happened in the actual story until later - when Toji starts working with her after Kairi goes on a trip to discover himself/find his penis. The dub was excellent throughout, but there were a few mistakes; like the one you mentioned. And it's most odd that I actually seemingly remembered Toji saying he answered a call made to Momo's phone by her friend! It seems, because of a combination of my awful memory and how I interpreted what happened that night, I edited the script slightly and chucked in a flashback showing the two kissing on her birthday. (I probably mixed up the placement of an earlier flashback... I was pretty sure a brief flashback got chucked in.) ...But, still, until a manga reader comes in and tells me if it happened differently in the manga, I'm going to stick with my original thoughts. In my mind, a hotel room, no interruptions, little clothing, the right mood and passionate kissing means mating occurred, but I respect you for the innocence of your mind. My brain, sadly, has been twisted by the internet. About the scene where Momo pushes Toji away when he tries to sex her during a movie: the fact Toji just went for it when there wasn't a romantic mood in the air suggested to me sex had become normal, rather than the two still not having done it... *shrug* Last time he tried, before the hotel drama, had been on Momo's 16th birthday; a special day, so it would've been kind of odd for him to try to take her virginity under such normal circumstances at the second time of asking. ...How about you keep thinking more of Momo than me and I continue praising Kairi for not caring about having used goods? :) |
AironicallyHumanApr 12, 2010 3:57 PM
| lol @ watching dubs to OP, at first glance Touji did seem to fuck the shit out of her, but similar situations in later episodes kind of implied that he did not. I would change the title for this thread as well if you're still alive. |
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| Read the manga and nothing happen. If I remenber correctly they were about to do it, but she was still feeling bad for Kairi, and Touji didn't continue anyfurther because he understood that it was too sudden. On the second scene on the hotel, he tells her that the first time she refused was ok and he understood, but this time tries to force her (i mean he gets a bit agressive), but she starts crying and he changes his mind and let her go. In summary, nothing happen. She did not had sex with Kouji at all. The anime give a kind of bittersweet feeling, so I decided to read it, and now I can be happy. |
jose21Sep 16, 2013 5:30 PM
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| I actually hoped Momo and Toji ended up together. Mainly because Toji was blackmailed into breaking up with Momo cause of Sae. From what I read, it should've been Momo x Toji and Kairi x Sae (it seem like it was heading in that direction). |
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