Frieren's popularity says a lot about the current anime community.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

Cielord said:
Frieren is probably the only anime with fans and haters equally as annoying.

sh7dowface said:
@Oongbuh The fact that pointing out how Frieren is mid gets treated like heresy says a lot about where the anime community is right now.

ThatRandomB said:

"I don't get...": well done. You've already established that it's a you problem, not a problem with the show, in your first three words. hating on a good show doesn't make you smart. please don't make a poll where you have an intended correct answer.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

Binkini said:

Frieren didnt take any risks you say? It is using the „formular“ to get the modern audience? I am sorry but you are coping hard.

The whole story of Frieren is a huge risk. Modern anime are all fast paced shows with a teenager main character who is or get overpowered and is „aura farming“. Thats the formula to popular anime these days, no substance and many fights and a cool main character people can relate to.

Frieren is doing almost everything like no other. Like FMAB did it years ago. It is slowly paced, has a main character with autistic tendencies and a rather abstract but still simple story (abstract compared to most anime). And I think the world building is great because many villages look the same and only a few places should be kept in mind and are recognizable. And that makes it realistic. In my life I was to so many places that look the same and had no relevance at all. That makes it relatable. The character development is also slow like in real life. You all are acting like one event would be turning your whole personality around and would be changing your whole life, for most people it is just not the case. Behaviors just dont change often for the most people (for those people who are complaining about Fern and Stark).

How many slice of like fantasies do we have, which are not just about some guilds and slaying monsters?

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

rohan121 said:
Mal score is a battle of mass appeal. That does not require deep stories. It just has to avoid offending most demographics

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

fantasyanimanga said:

bro you gave SAO a 10/10, no wonder you don’t like Frieren lmao

sh7dowface said:
I don’t get why Frieren is considered a masterpiece by so many. At its core, it's just a very average fantasy anime with a slow, often empty narrative. It plays safe, never really takes risks, and leans heavily on aesthetics over substance. And yet it’s treated like some sort of modern classic by zoomers. That says a lot about the current state of the anime community, and not in a good way.

It feels like studios have figured out the perfect formula to please modern viewers:
>Add a waifu character with a quiet personality so everyone can project
>Use top-tier animation to distract from the mid writing
>Throw in a cinematic soundtrack to make slow scenes feel deep
>Sprinkle in just enough fanservice for closet degenerates to stay hooked

That’s the new meta. You don’t need meaningful character arcs, worldbuilding, or actual tension. Just make something that looks and sounds good, and people will eat it up. Sad to say, but this kind of surface-level appeal is exactly what dominates anime discourse now. Not saying Frieren is garbage. It's watchable. But calling it peak fiction? That’s just cope.

fantasyanimanga said:
@Ripperdoc bro giving jjk a 10 and sao a 10 is not the same wtf

sh7dowface said:
@MusashiKarlsefni The things I said does holds true about Frieren. If you think what I said is just a cope or bait, then I truly hope you think about what I actually said and reflect on it.