Lmao... it depends how its expressed... you can hate and still love and care about people i dunno...
To me what people call hate often seen like it needs more nuance to get to the root and whats behind it. Its not very descriptive. Its often more like hurt, pain and frustration. Maybe disbelief and anger.
If its outwardly abusive hate that harms or isolates you from your family and friends dwindling your selfeesteem to isolate you for no reason and without consent then yeah thats red.
And not just frustated hate then yeah thats a red. Like they shouldnt be escalating things unless you agree and it makes sense or something is harmful to them or others... or like cause the family is being bad and youre not doing ANYTHING to protect or help them rather the opposite pulling them into your familys abuse #toxiic lol.....
Or you use them as a tool for your family or your family tries to make them their tool in a bad way tgey do not want.
I dunno sometimes if i know someone has repeatedly hurt their partners or others or raped them i find it hard to pretend smile at them unless i know people would be in danger, hurt if i didnt.... i cant just ignore it and pretend everything is fine if theyve just beat someone up or pushed them down the fcking stairs again.... im not gonna be friends with you and pretend its ok and nothing happened like sorry you can remove that smile from your face i dont even wanna fcking greet or be near you to cosy and make nice when i know what you are π.
But you gotta be there for the person that was hurt if they still love their family.
IF you have the capacity for it that is. Otherwise it could just hurt both people if they dont know how to restrain themself when they need to or the other to accept when the other person cannot accept abuse or whatever from their family.
Its about them not you.
But family ties is not enough reason to stay with family. If they dont treat you right and damaged, damage and keeps abusing you or fcking you up you dont owe them shit. They decided to bring a human into this world, thats on them.
Its not a red flag being unable to accept abuse or dysfunctional patterns in a family.
Being unable to compromise at all when its not about you might be tho. Again depends.
People need to figure out what they can give, not give, accept and not accept from eachother and their families. Sometimes i feel like if its a red flag or not depends on a lot of factors, expectations, needs, the personalities, boundaries, experiences of the people involved and the severities of stuff and how it affects them and what they want from it all.
If you have a good caring family and the person wont compromise or be civil, is very selfish, have weird hate reasons or not theyre basically just being an asshole then yeah that could be red. Also hate is a very strong word. Using "hate" about your family COULD be red too depending on if theyre serious hate hate or what they did.
With my own family it would be uncaring and red i feel. Like you can dislike something but dont vent at me about it or treat me like i need to choose between them and you. Yeah thats a red but it really all depends on people situation and things.
If a person speaks to you about hating your family and makes it all about them when its got nothing to do with them and youre not getting harmed then yeah thats red. If they just spew hatred hatred and really bad way act out abusive hatred too. Like people can validate but they shouldnt bulldoze you and go all black/white on your family. Making space for nothing but misery and erasing the good parts that can still be salvaged if the person needs it.
Depends on capacities.
I dunno its complicated it really depends how.
Edit: omg
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