utopia- said: People who hate or simply dislike frieren, are there plausible reasons? Like, sousou no frieren is not my top1, I like it a lot, but it's not my favorite, actually it's my top4. I was thinking while reading the negative reviews of sousou no frieren here on the site but all the reviews are too stupid, like there are people complaining about the animation and scenery saying that it is bad. Honestly, can anyone who doesn't like frieren really find the animation and, for example, the soundtrack bad?, I doubt that Sousou no Frieren (just an example) would be bad at everything, it's kind of idiotic to think that Sousou no Frieren is bad at everything. Like I don't like Kimetsu no Yaiba, but I think KNY's animation and soundtrack are phenomenal. What I mean is: who doesn't like sousou no frieren could give me a plausible explanation of the possible defects? And those who like it can also answer me telling me some flaws that you see in this anime? (DETAIL: mention the defect but also give an explanation, don't just say "I don't like the story", say why.) (I just want to understand what might be considered bad for most people in sousou no frieren, because I truly believe that this anime is perfect in everything. I can't find any mistakes, even my favorite anime (3-gatsu no lion) I could understand "possible" flaws, but when I think about sousou no frieren I can't imagine any flaws... It's the only anime where I think like that.) Note= ~ sorry for some grammatical errors in the post ~I just want to know your opinions and cons regarding the anime. Please do not spew hate here. I can already tell those same takes you found in those low star reviews will be seen in this thread. The only difference is the outlet for which people can use their critics. |
utopia- said: @gloozed I just wanted to read a negative review of sousou no frieren that makes sense... Like I've read negative reviews of 3-gatsu no lion, and some of them seem really convincing and might make sense. But I've never seen a negative review of sousou no frieren that's well-crafted. Let’s see if you’ll find better luck in the forums section of MAL rather than the actual reviews under the anime. |
| It's pointless asking that as it all boils down to subjectivity. Also, reasons for liking and disliking something are broadly the same - plot and characters. Those are core aspects of every series, so if you liked them, you would like the series, and vice versa. |
| There's a lot better reviews on Anilist that highlight what people did not enjoy. |
| Here is a tip, don’t follow MAL general rating and the reviews, they don’t accurately represent the anime. Best advice I can give you, watch what you like and don’t worry about what anyone thinks of it. Merry Christmas |
ejleonDec 9, 12:04 PM
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| These are probably the main reasons why I don't like it as much: I can't root for the characters. Frieren's goal to find Aureol and to see Himmel again is a weird antithesis to her goal of living in the present, but the story never really comments on that. While I can sympathize with her, wanting to speak with dead people just to say goodbye or to indulge in old memories feels degenerate. Everything is so vague that I can only guess what anyone's motivation really is. Is Frieren still dedicating her life to hunt down demons or what exactly are her long-term goals? As for Fern and Stark, they barely have any goals for their journey other than to stick with Frieren like their masters told them. What do these two want to do with their life? On top of that the characters barely show any emotions and regularly complain about their own lack of excitement during the journey. And all the cringy, shounen-typical character reactions make me really unsure what about the characters is meant to be genuine and what not. Aside from the motivation problem, I wholeheartedly hate Frieren's world and its approach to fantasy. It feels like a parody, everything is so intentionally generic, much more than any isekai I've ever seen. Nothing really fits together. The power of magic is so disproportional to the slow, modest lives of everyone we meet. Maybe it's just on me, but I can't make sense of anything the author writes. I'm OK with fiction not having to make perfect sense, but Frieren relies too heavily on its vague backstory that this overdose of tropes completely throws me out of the experience. |
Vaturna said: These are probably the main reasons why I don't like it as much: I can't root for the characters. Frieren's goal to find Aureol and to see Himmel again is a weird antithesis to her goal of living in the present, but the story never really comments on that. While I can sympathize with her, wanting to speak with dead people just to say goodbye or to indulge in old memories feels degenerate. Everything is so vague that I can only guess what anyone's motivation really is. Is Frieren still dedicating her life to hunt down demons or what exactly are her long-term goals? As for Fern and Stark, they barely have any goals for their journey other than to stick with Frieren like their masters told them. What do these two want to do with their life? On top of that the characters barely show any emotions and regularly complain about their own lack of excitement during the journey. And all the cringy, shounen-typical character reactions make me really unsure what about the characters is meant to be genuine and what not. Aside from the motivation problem, I wholeheartedly hate Frieren's world and its approach to fantasy. It feels like a parody, everything is so intentionally generic, much more than any isekai I've ever seen. Nothing really fits together. The power of magic is so disproportional to the slow, modest lives of everyone we meet. Maybe it's just on me, but I can't make sense of anything the author writes. I'm OK with fiction not having to make perfect sense, but Frieren relies too heavily on its vague backstory that this overdose of tropes completely throws me out of the experience. Here is an honest suggestion, calm down, relax, breathe, stop thinking so hard, have some fun, watch the show as a kid, then maybe you’d like it. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| Most Frieren haters are just envious because they think it doesn't deserve to be the highest rated anime. |
No, this isn't my signature~desu. |
Ghost_Davo said: Talking about Frieren in the big 2025 is crazy work 💔(joke) What animes can you even talk about in the big 2025? |
Neither are bad series. I’d say you could especially since the manga for both is ongoing. |
| Watched 415 anime Mean score 4. 21 This OP is a joke and makes this thread to ask why people don'T like some specific anime. |
| maybe ppl hate Frieren bc it's hella popular and some non-anime fans are watching it. so taking that in consideration, I have 2 conclusions: 1. they simply don't like "mainstream" anime get into non-anime fans. 2. they are way happier (sometimes kind of cocky) if the anime is kinda niche/ non popular/ not that successful with the general audience so they can be bragging about having better taste in anime. that "I'm better than you bc I understood Evangelion on the 1st watch" "I have a more refined taste in anime that you" kind of anime elitist's opinion btw I'm talking from the Latin America community's perspective, I see a lot of ppl shitting on Frieren bc of those reasons, so idk if it's the same on the English speaking community |
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| I love that your title of this discussion says that you need an urgent answer lmao you're so funny. I think people simply dislike that the show is more of a slice of life concerning the fantasy genre. seems like a weird reason to not like a show, but. some people don't like slice of life. it's also kind of a slow show, which some people don't like. |
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| It's boring af + I don't have a fetish for elves. Movement of the earth got me hooked for 11 episodes in a single day and it's almost all only talking. |
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| Bro said it's urgent lol |
Reply to AnimeGirlGusher
It's boring af + I don't have a fetish for elves. Movement of the earth got me hooked for 11 episodes in a single day and it's almost all only talking.
| @AnimeGirlGusher THIS 100%. You could say watching grass grow started to look attractive by episode 18.... |
| You ask a fair question- but just as you point out Frieren can’t possibly be bad at EVERYTHING; (I agree it isn’t)- but you also have to admit it isn’t GREAT at everything either. And that is the problem. But look how it’s rated. It has poorly defined characters, an overpowered MC who is such a walking pile of tropes and cliches; walking around talking with no dramatic tension; it starts out with a poorly defined purpose then decides it’s a battle anime- which would be fine if there was more fighting. WAY TOO MANY CHARACTERS- like that older guy who fucks off after like two episodes; it introduces then abandons Stark at its critical most important dungeon/magic test arc; its magic system is poorly defined which would be okay if it didn’t insist on there being so many rules, and then it just contradicts itself by introducing things like PHOTOGRAPHY for plot convenience for like one episode then never shows it again. Which is lazy writing. On top of all this the characters aren’t even interesting to look at. They look just like the story feels- DULL. Frieren is basically a fat elf with frumpy clothes and walks around with a blank expression most of the time. Sorry that’s not interesting or inspiring, and anime is a visual medium- nothing about its appearance either background art or characters is interesting or captivating. Fern is similar- frumpy and boring both visually and as a character. The English VA for Stark breaths some life into an otherwise archetype of a character; I had to watch the English dub after halfway because reading all the inane, dull dialogue on the Sub was excruciating. See my review where I explain everything wrong with it in depth. Some things it did well: the action scenes in episode 9-10 (about) where they fought the demons was alright. The Magic Test arc in the dungeon was okay in parts- (although ruined by so much endless talking!) and the final test with the loli elf chick at least made me chuckle. But WAY too many characters. Why so many? Just a total mess. I'm not claiming it's the worst anime ever made and I didn’t give it a 1. I should have given it a 1, but unlike all the people who lied about it being so perfect; at least I was honest about my score. |
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