A Condition Called Love
Reply to angel1309
Hananoi is pretty "toxic" at the beginning, trying to explain without spoilers
he wants to be loved so bad that he sacrifices himself every chance he gets and "tries too hard"
which is bot something that the girl appreciates, forgot her name:(
She doesn't understand crushes and valies friendship so sees hananoi's actions as a burden and unnecessary
with time they grow from that, hananoi shares and trusts her more
and she understands what is like to like someone and how is different from a simple friendship so understands more of his self-sacrificing doings and else
so, yes
the relationship is a mess at the start, but then they learn and grow
think of it as a more realistic take on romance, don't watch it with your eyes closed:(
it's such a gorgeous story
he wants to be loved so bad that he sacrifices himself every chance he gets and "tries too hard"
which is bot something that the girl appreciates, forgot her name:(
She doesn't understand crushes and valies friendship so sees hananoi's actions as a burden and unnecessary
with time they grow from that, hananoi shares and trusts her more
and she understands what is like to like someone and how is different from a simple friendship so understands more of his self-sacrificing doings and else
so, yes
the relationship is a mess at the start, but then they learn and grow
think of it as a more realistic take on romance, don't watch it with your eyes closed:(
it's such a gorgeous story
| @angel1309 "which is not something that the girl appreciates, forgot her name:(" Are you talking about this girl? |
RealNathApr 5, 2024 2:18 AM
| No it's not it.. Here's an idea, why not watch the anime or better yet read the manga rather than relying on what some clown on twitter/X said. |
| Like most have said, I don't think you'd say toxic. He is overbearing at times, but it comes from a place of genuine love for Hinase. And while he is overbearing, he doesn't force things on her. Also the show does a really good job of explaining Hananoi. It doesn't give him a cliched super tragic backstory, but one where you absolutely look at him and say, "wow that really sucks and is sad" and shows why giving your all for someone you love is the most important thing for him. Plus (and maybe this doesn't actually make it better, but) he totally gets how he is. He knows he's overbearing and can be too much. He's always honest with that fact and about himself. He doesn't try to be deceitful about it. He basically just comes out and says, "this is me, this is how I am, these are things I've done in the past, I know it's not a good thing". He tries to change himself (and does as the story goes on) for her. Honestly it's a really sweet story. |
| hmmmm unhealthy why? He's just being super nice to her and keeping a good boundary. He's doing things for her but doesn't request or expect anything in return. Anime only ep 2, we see a glimpse of how he feels about her maybe the anime make it seem like wanting to hint at he's some crazy crazy but I don't think he is. He seem genuinely a great guy to me LOL regardless what he wants he's matching her pace. She asked him for a kiss and he explained to her you don't want to let people you're not sure if you like or not do something like that to you. He goes on to tell her how he's feeling even if it's not like that for her. So I feel like for someone like her it'll be very easy to take advantage or trick someone like that so I think they hit a jackpot with each other. No way in hell this is Yandere anime. Maybe I am crazy? But I feel like if I have a family member or a friend that's crazy innocent and easily tricked I would be thanking god they find someone like Hananoi-kun. I don't know why anyone would think there's toxic or unhealthy thing going on. I mean isn't that what everyone would want in a relationship for your bf/gf, partner whatever to forever be super obsessed with you but always put you first and never ever do anything that would harm you. Somebody tell me I am not crazy? lol |
Reply to KeyboardBunny
hmmmm unhealthy why? He's just being super nice to her and keeping a good boundary. He's doing things for her but doesn't request or expect anything in return.
Anime only ep 2, we see a glimpse of how he feels about her maybe the anime make it seem like wanting to hint at he's some crazy crazy but I don't think he is.
He seem genuinely a great guy to me LOL regardless what he wants he's matching her pace. She asked him for a kiss and he explained to her you don't want to let people you're not sure if you like or not do something like that to you. He goes on to tell her how he's feeling even if it's not like that for her. So I feel like for someone like her it'll be very easy to take advantage or trick someone like that so I think they hit a jackpot with each other. No way in hell this is Yandere anime. Maybe I am crazy? But I feel like if I have a family member or a friend that's crazy innocent and easily tricked I would be thanking god they find someone like Hananoi-kun. I don't know why anyone would think there's toxic or unhealthy thing going on. I mean isn't that what everyone would want in a relationship for your bf/gf, partner whatever to forever be super obsessed with you but always put you first and never ever do anything that would harm you. Somebody tell me I am not crazy? lol
Anime only ep 2, we see a glimpse of how he feels about her maybe the anime make it seem like wanting to hint at he's some crazy crazy but I don't think he is.
He seem genuinely a great guy to me LOL regardless what he wants he's matching her pace. She asked him for a kiss and he explained to her you don't want to let people you're not sure if you like or not do something like that to you. He goes on to tell her how he's feeling even if it's not like that for her. So I feel like for someone like her it'll be very easy to take advantage or trick someone like that so I think they hit a jackpot with each other. No way in hell this is Yandere anime. Maybe I am crazy? But I feel like if I have a family member or a friend that's crazy innocent and easily tricked I would be thanking god they find someone like Hananoi-kun. I don't know why anyone would think there's toxic or unhealthy thing going on. I mean isn't that what everyone would want in a relationship for your bf/gf, partner whatever to forever be super obsessed with you but always put you first and never ever do anything that would harm you. Somebody tell me I am not crazy? lol
| @KeyboardBunny Yeah agreed. I think unhealthy or toxic is bit of a stretch. He's certainly more intense about love than many other people tend to be but it doesn't even come close to reaching the level of yandere so far. Maybe you could argue that the "君を僕だけのものにしたい" note is a little over the top this early on? Then again, it's in the trash for a reason; he's not being manipulative or anything and clearly takes their relationship seriously like with the kiss part you mentioned. I also assume that the "Hotaru Zone" was just a joke of course... now that would be very yandere-esque indeed. |
Reply to EatATalkyMouse
@KeyboardBunny
Yeah agreed. I think unhealthy or toxic is bit of a stretch. He's certainly more intense about love than many other people tend to be but it doesn't even come close to reaching the level of yandere so far. Maybe you could argue that the "君を僕だけのものにしたい" note is a little over the top this early on? Then again, it's in the trash for a reason; he's not being manipulative or anything and clearly takes their relationship seriously like with the kiss part you mentioned. I also assume that the "Hotaru Zone" was just a joke of course... now that would be very yandere-esque indeed.
Yeah agreed. I think unhealthy or toxic is bit of a stretch. He's certainly more intense about love than many other people tend to be but it doesn't even come close to reaching the level of yandere so far. Maybe you could argue that the "君を僕だけのものにしたい" note is a little over the top this early on? Then again, it's in the trash for a reason; he's not being manipulative or anything and clearly takes their relationship seriously like with the kiss part you mentioned. I also assume that the "Hotaru Zone" was just a joke of course... now that would be very yandere-esque indeed.
| @EatATalkyMouse Yep exactly "君を僕だけのものにしたい" is what he's thinking but he knows that's not too good of a thing so he got rid of it. May seem to hint at something sinister but then in reality it's similar. You want the person you like to like you back and you want them for yourself. Who shares gf/bf? right? If he meant it like you can't have friends or care about your family then creepy call the police. Quiet positive he doesn't mean it like that and isn't doing anything controlling or anything that would upset her. At least so far I don't see anything like that from him. It just looks me like a desperate cry like please just look at me and only me. Hananoi-kun seem to be a very honest character to me, he thinks she's so special so I think he'll treat her well. I still think regardless how obsessive he might be if he doesn't harm her at all there's no problem. The Hotaru Zone is LOL, It depends what he has in there. It does seem like he would let her see if she really wanted. He did say to her if you want to see it you have to be ready for it. His parents are well off but he seems so neglected. He has the good looks so people approach him but just for his looks. Seem like a sad lonely character, one of those look like they have it all, other people envious but actually sad and depressed. Also he told her if she didn't like him back in the end he doesn't want to be friends he's just going to disappear from her life. So I don't see how he's doing her any harm. It's a shame that some people think this is a creepy anime. I think it's about 2 people that have different personality than the average that's navigating love and life while growing together. I find them adorable lol |
KeyboardBunnyApr 13, 2024 9:08 AM
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@EatATalkyMouse Yep exactly "君を僕だけのものにしたい" is what he's thinking but he knows that's not too good of a thing so he got rid of it. May seem to hint at something sinister but then in reality it's similar. You want the person you like to like you back and you want them for yourself. Who shares gf/bf? right? If he meant it like you can't have friends or care about your family then creepy call the police. Quiet positive he doesn't mean it like that and isn't doing anything controlling or anything that would upset her. At least so far I don't see anything like that from him. It just looks me like a desperate cry like please just look at me and only me. Hananoi-kun seem to be a very honest character to me, he thinks she's so special so I think he'll treat her well. I still think regardless how obsessive he might be if he doesn't harm her at all there's no problem. The Hotaru Zone is LOL, It depends what he has in there. It does seem like he would let her see if she really wanted. He did say to her if you want to see it you have to be ready for it. His parents are well off but he seems so neglected. He has the good looks so people approach him but just for his looks. Seem like a sad lonely character, one of those look like they have it all, other people envious but actually sad and depressed. Also he told her if she didn't like him back in the end he doesn't want to be friends he's just going to disappear from her life. So I don't see how he's doing her any harm. It's a shame that some people think this is a creepy anime. I think it's about 2 people that have different personality than the average that's navigating love and life while growing together. I find them adorable lol
| @KeyboardBunny Right, I know I wouldn't want to share lol. I can understand it being misinterpreted in different ways but so far it's pretty evident he genuinely cares about her and hasn't done anything controlling so I take it to be the normal desire I'd imagine most partners would have. And ikr I can't really picture a literal shrine LOL. It must be something either family or relationship related from the past and I'm sure it's somehow connected to how he is, and that'd of course be a little heavy to talk about with your partner on the first day they visit your house so I understand the reasoning. He was pretty open about showing it with the warning too, so I doubt it's something serial killer tier. I think he must have some sort of abandonment issues which makes sense considering his family seems to constantly go on trips so that definitely plays a factor on his personality. Definitely an interesting concept for a romance anime, and I'm glad that I didn't have to wait until the literal last episode for the couple to get together. Looking forward to how it progresses! |
Reply to EatATalkyMouse
@KeyboardBunny
Right, I know I wouldn't want to share lol. I can understand it being misinterpreted in different ways but so far it's pretty evident he genuinely cares about her and hasn't done anything controlling so I take it to be the normal desire I'd imagine most partners would have. And ikr I can't really picture a literal shrine LOL. It must be something either family or relationship related from the past and I'm sure it's somehow connected to how he is, and that'd of course be a little heavy to talk about with your partner on the first day they visit your house so I understand the reasoning. He was pretty open about showing it with the warning too, so I doubt it's something serial killer tier. I think he must have some sort of abandonment issues which makes sense considering his family seems to constantly go on trips so that definitely plays a factor on his personality. Definitely an interesting concept for a romance anime, and I'm glad that I didn't have to wait until the literal last episode for the couple to get together. Looking forward to how it progresses!
Right, I know I wouldn't want to share lol. I can understand it being misinterpreted in different ways but so far it's pretty evident he genuinely cares about her and hasn't done anything controlling so I take it to be the normal desire I'd imagine most partners would have. And ikr I can't really picture a literal shrine LOL. It must be something either family or relationship related from the past and I'm sure it's somehow connected to how he is, and that'd of course be a little heavy to talk about with your partner on the first day they visit your house so I understand the reasoning. He was pretty open about showing it with the warning too, so I doubt it's something serial killer tier. I think he must have some sort of abandonment issues which makes sense considering his family seems to constantly go on trips so that definitely plays a factor on his personality. Definitely an interesting concept for a romance anime, and I'm glad that I didn't have to wait until the literal last episode for the couple to get together. Looking forward to how it progresses!
| @EatATalkyMouse omg yes!! I really dislike having to watch the whole show to see if A and B will be together. I am loving how it's going to be about growth and development. Hananoi-kun seem more normal to me than Hotaru. Like you said he's just bit intense bit obsessive but not evil at all, Hotaru-chan though is more werid since she's emotionless LOL. I have to say I grew up pretty similar to her but not to that extent. I think because of that I lost a whole section of youth experience. During high school I was always just so invested into my hobbies I don't understand why people bothered dating. It was such a waste of time, seeing all the girls starting to care about their appearance and talking about boys was just meh. I was always talking TO the boys not about the boys HAHAHA because I was so into gaming, manga, anime and technologies/computers. I did have female friends too but I would also only be talking about anime, music or tv shows. I also had Hotaru-chan's hairstyle LOL and it was because of the same reason too! Easy to deal with, I don't even need to brush my hair ever. Didn't even own a brush. I always hang out with the boys because of my hobbies and I do any girly stuff. I would stay over at my male friends house when his parents goes on holiday and so he was left all alone for weeks often. They take his sister because she's young but they always just leave money at home for him stack of cash and leave him alone. The guy doesn't even know how to cook so he would have to eat weeks of take outs. So I was like dude time to game all day all night long and I can make you rmeals. I genuinely did not care and was never worried about anything. We talk all night about random stuff too. We never thought it was a problem because I was just a dude to him and he was just a friend that happened to be male. I think because I am a bit unusual I can somewhat related to Hotaru-chan. Still she's bit more extreme. I definitely wouldn't be wanting to try dating someone I don't even like or go to their house sit in their room when I know they like me abit obsessively. I would be afraid. LOL So Hotaru-chan is lucky that Hananoi-kun is a good guy and not a creep. I also think the Shrine thing isn't going to be anything creepy because he was open to showing her if she actually wanted to see. She's the one that said she's fine not looking lol. Yet still just casually sitting in his room asking him to try giving her a kiss. Like errrrrrrrm. How come the people that think this show is problematic are focus on him when she seem to have a bigger problem than him. haha. I think it's going to be really cute seeing how she's going to help him with his mental health or whatever truma he might have. Can't wait to see her development when she will like him back. I am so ready for a wholesome shoujo romance! |
Reply to aryllberry
Yes and no. Toxic if you’re going by internet standards. Hananoi is a complex individual with abandonment issues so he is a bit strong, but he’s by no means a yandere or abusive either.
| @aryllberry by the so-called internet standards, (really only the standards of a bunch of Western ideological degenerates who presume to rule the World,) any man who's ever been attracted to a woman is toxic. |
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