| I noticed that the colours for the characters are a little different from what they were in the first season, why is that? I mean it´s made by the same studio as the first season afterall. |
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Dexter_M09 said: naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish season 1 was much more better in every way , they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ cartoonish?????  |
LizNoire said: Dexter_M09 said: naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish season 1 was much more better in every way , they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ cartoonish????? This episode was awsm. But most of the season art has been soft. Hence the difference the thread mentions. |
LizNoire said: Dexter_M09 said: naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish season 1 was much more better in every way , they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ cartoonish????? Bruh it's not like a single scene will justify that the JJK Season 2 isn't cartoonish Well I don't hate the current artstyle but Season 1 artstyle was superior |
JustAnLocalBoy said: Bruh it's not like a single scene will justify that the JJK Season 2 isn't cartoonish Well I don't hate the current artstyle but Season 1 artstyle was superior the only parts which were cartoonish were the ones which were intentionally made to look cartoonish for the comedy, like this one  |
JustAnLocalBoy said: Bruh it's not like a single scene will justify that the JJK Season 2 isn't cartoonish Well I don't hate the current artstyle but Season 1 artstyle was superior as for which artsyle is better; thats a matter of subjective opinion and i prefer the new one cuz its far smoother and more impressive |
ANR23 said: This episode was awsm. But most of the season art has been soft. Hence the difference the thread mentions. im guessing "art has been soft" means minimalistic? thats actually good tho cuz it allows the animation to be smoother and more fluid. and its def not cartoonish except the parts which were intentionally made cartoonish for the comedy |
LizNoireOct 17, 2023 2:04 AM
LizNoire said: ANR23 said: This episode was awsm. But most of the season art has been soft. Hence the difference the thread mentions. im guessing "art has been soft" means minimalistic? thats actually good tho cuz it allows the animation to be smoother and more fluid. and its def not cartoonish except the parts which were intentionally made cartoonish for the comedy By soft I mean, the character edges/outlines are not as well defined as last time (unlike the nanami scene). I always like it more when the characters have a well defined outline. Best show cases in high school dxd. 1st 3 seasons look hot but s4 art is so meh. Mushy almost. This season starting felt like that. It’s hard to explain but hope you understand. |
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naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish
season 1 was much more better in every way
, they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ
season 1 was much more better in every way
, they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ
| @Dexter_M09 By the way anime = Japanese cartoon . But please keep it a secret |
| Because this season has an Art Director that actually cares about his job. |
| They made it look more cartoonish cause it’s way easier to animate. Especially fight scenes cause the drawings are easier to draw |
| To be honest, I've been very disconnected from this season because of the art style. I LOVED season 1's art style so damn much and I miss it. |
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LizNoire said:
cartoonish?????
Dexter_M09 said:
naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish
season 1 was much more better in every way
, they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ
naaaah I don't like the way they changed the whole thing..... season 2 is too cartoonish
season 1 was much more better in every way
, they should have just started with the same art style.why did they have to change everything ππ
cartoonish?????
This episode was awsm. But most of the season art has been soft. Hence the difference the thread mentions.
| @ANR23 no dude. Whenever there's Souta Yamazaki, Sayaka Koiso and Yosuke Yajima were credited the drawings are on par or even better than s1, which is like 8-9 episodes. When details are necessary they didn't shy away. Look at ep 7 of Mahito and Mechamaru's numerous powerful drawings |
ReXiRa said: Why do people keep making new discussions for the same topic? I guess the discussions about artstyle turn into shitshows really fast but still Personally I prefer season 2's artstyle Yes season 1 is more picturesque and looks really good when there's minimal movement but some scenes suffer because of it (most notably the yuuji + aoi vs hanami fight) With season 2, the animation is way more fluid overall, the comedic moments land way better with the exaggerations and "simplistic/cartoonish" artstyle, the creative cinematography (especially when geto got jumped by that old man) Yes, I did somewhat miss the purple tint to gojo's hair and his detailed six-eyes/rikugan, but it's not really a deal breaker for me Mappa animators might still be overworked but now they don't have to shade everything to oblivion and some of the scenes seemed like they actually had fun animating (like toji rushing in at gojo) same, and your answer is brilliant |
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Why do people keep making new discussions for the same topic? I guess the discussions about artstyle turn into shitshows really fast but still
Personally I prefer season 2's artstyle
Yes season 1 is more picturesque and looks really good when there's minimal movement but some scenes suffer because of it (most notably the yuuji + aoi vs hanami fight)
With season 2, the animation is way more fluid overall, the comedic moments land way better with the exaggerations and "simplistic/cartoonish" artstyle, the creative cinematography (especially when geto got jumped by that old man)
Yes, I did somewhat miss the purple tint to gojo's hair and his detailed six-eyes/rikugan, but it's not really a deal breaker for me
Mappa animators might still be overworked but now they don't have to shade everything to oblivion and some of the scenes seemed like they actually had fun animating (like toji rushing in at gojo)
Personally I prefer season 2's artstyle
Yes season 1 is more picturesque and looks really good when there's minimal movement but some scenes suffer because of it (most notably the yuuji + aoi vs hanami fight)
With season 2, the animation is way more fluid overall, the comedic moments land way better with the exaggerations and "simplistic/cartoonish" artstyle, the creative cinematography (especially when geto got jumped by that old man)
Yes, I did somewhat miss the purple tint to gojo's hair and his detailed six-eyes/rikugan, but it's not really a deal breaker for me
Mappa animators might still be overworked but now they don't have to shade everything to oblivion and some of the scenes seemed like they actually had fun animating (like toji rushing in at gojo)
| @ReXiRa ppl make the same topic because ig ppl cant agree on this topic. not to start an argument with u or anything, but u prefer s2 animation because u think its more fluid, whereas myself thinking s1 is more fluid. personally, s2's animation a lot of times feels, infact, laggier. an example would be ep 7, the mechamaru fight; or ep 8, itadori vs grasshopper. just take ep 8 as an example, watch from 12:07 - 12:14. i don't think most people would consider this "fluid". at least yuji + aoi vs hanami fight is way more fluid than this and i don't really understand why you think that fight suffered? again, im not trying to start an argument with you, but i really want to understand why ppl think s2 animation is better than s1, when personally i think s2 has a lot of laggy scenes and scenes that are harder to comprehend than s1. i can also tell you why this is the case. s2 animation has a lot of really rapid frame transitions. basically, the character is at one place, and suddenly in the next place, with barely any transitional frames. Thats why I said it feels laggy. yeah ik it sounds abstract but i hope you get it. i also acknowledge that s2 has a lot of good eps, i personally enjoyed many eps of s2, but still believe that s1 animation is superior, for the simple reason that its fluid enough without major flaws, and easy to understand what is going on, unlike the ep7 mechamaru fight which imo is just dog shit |
ZimmuOct 19, 2023 6:44 PM
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@ANR23 no dude. Whenever there's Souta Yamazaki, Sayaka Koiso and Yosuke Yajima were credited the drawings are on par or even better than s1, which is like 8-9 episodes. When details are necessary they didn't shy away. Look at ep 7 of Mahito and Mechamaru's numerous powerful drawings
| @Anime_Skaddiel uh i wouldn't really consider this powerful drawing. i love jjk, but this is not it bro. ep 7 is filled with this weird flashy composition that is hard to tell what is going on, since one frame blends into the next. not to mention, even watching this ep on 1080p, if you pause the episode at random moments in their fight, that frame looks blurry and just weird. https://imgur.com/a/zmGBD7l  this is what i mean when you pause at a random frame. when all these blending frames starts to play, it really gets confusing as to what is happening in the show. ik that frames will blend into the next in certain times and its normal, even s1 jjk had this, but this mechamaru ep just made this issue way too extreme. |
ZimmuOct 19, 2023 6:37 PM
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@Anime_Skaddiel
uh i wouldn't really consider this powerful drawing. i love jjk, but this is not it bro. ep 7 is filled with this weird flashy composition that is hard to tell what is going on, since one frame blends into the next. not to mention, even watching this ep on 1080p, if you pause the episode at random moments in their fight, that frame looks blurry and just weird.
https://imgur.com/a/zmGBD7l
this is what i mean when you pause at a random frame. when all these blending frames starts to play, it really gets confusing as to what is happening in the show. ik that frames will blend into the next in certain times and its normal, even s1 jjk had this, but this mechamaru ep just made this issue way too extreme.
uh i wouldn't really consider this powerful drawing. i love jjk, but this is not it bro. ep 7 is filled with this weird flashy composition that is hard to tell what is going on, since one frame blends into the next. not to mention, even watching this ep on 1080p, if you pause the episode at random moments in their fight, that frame looks blurry and just weird.
https://imgur.com/a/zmGBD7l
this is what i mean when you pause at a random frame. when all these blending frames starts to play, it really gets confusing as to what is happening in the show. ik that frames will blend into the next in certain times and its normal, even s1 jjk had this, but this mechamaru ep just made this issue way too extreme.
| @Zimmu that's called ghosting and that's done by the broadcasting companies to prevent Epplipcy according to Japanese TV laws. S1 didn't have it because it aired late night. Not it's airing late evening. I don't mean to be rude but you guys are some critics. |
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@Zimmu that's called ghosting and that's done by the broadcasting companies to prevent Epplipcy according to Japanese TV laws. S1 didn't have it because it aired late night. Not it's airing late evening. I don't mean to be rude but you guys are some critics.
| @Anime_Skaddiel Not be rude too, but then why did they choose to do this in the first place? It is quite clear to me that this ghosting, or in my words, "frame blending into frame" made the animation hard to see. I also asked others, and they hold the same opinion, so I know im not the only person thinking this. Comparing it to S1, S2 EP7's ghosting is just too much. Why can't they animate it normally, like the rest of the other episodes? The reality now is they chose to animate something that messy, and add ghosting or whatever, when they didnt even have to in the first place. The mechamaru fight didnt need the ghosting, and I think it can still be impressive. Also, I do think I have the right to criticize, because I am not bringing up some random, irrelevant stuff. Instead I am pretty serious about what I am watching. Is that a problem? In fact, I actually don't like to criticize, and I criticize way less than other people. But when I happen to criticize, I only criticize something that I care about, in this case JJK.So don't get me wrong, Im not a hater. I heard this term "ghosting", or "dimming", and honestly I dont really care. Im no animation expert nor I want to learn much about it. I just want to enjoy my anime without having my eyes fucked. My point is very simple: Naming an animation technique doesn't make the animation "GOOD" by any means. The maximum it does, is to inform ppl like me the technique that was being implemented. Thats all. It's not a justification for "good animation" . Therefore, same argument can be applied to when you say its to prevent epilepsy and TV laws. That is a reason for WHY its being used, but NOT a reason for why it's "GOOD ANIMATION". Do you see my point? I mean thanks for telling me that though. |
ZimmuOct 20, 2023 1:40 PM
| Itsuki > |
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@Zimmu that's called ghosting and that's done by the broadcasting companies to prevent Epplipcy according to Japanese TV laws. S1 didn't have it because it aired late night. Not it's airing late evening. I don't mean to be rude but you guys are some critics.
| @Anime_Skaddiel And also, you said its powerful drawing. But you also said its just something called "ghosting". Then which way does ghosting make the drawing "powerful"? I can't see a correlation between them. The only thing powerful about it is making a whole rainbow on my computer screen. Again, Im keeping this peaceful, and I want to hear your view on why you justify ep 7 as a good ep, when I think its not. Just a discussion. |
| Itsuki > |
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@Zimmu what I mean by "powerful drawings" Is characters being drawn beautifully in the same episode look at Miwa bro, she looks miles better tha however she looked in s1. The "ghosting" &" Dimming" Actually started with the infamous Porygon episode in pokemon which hospitalized numerous children. The director and staff don't want an action scene or a wonderful work to look like a wack either so they go with flashy action and fast movements. Late night anime gets a pass for this but evening and morning shows aren't so lucky. Toho the animation company has booked evening slot so if they don't want it to be ghosted or dimmed they have to resort to too many slow mo shots or close ups. It is your every right to criticize a product you're consuming. You can shame thr awfull off model drawings of Mahito in some scenes. I cannot explain it in words but you can definitely gain pretty good insight into why the hell does this scene look bad while the actual drawings are super cool by watching MankoMan a hidden gem of a YouTube channel, he breakdowns episode based on animation. You can check him out.
| @Anime_Skaddiel Ohh I see. Yeah you are right with Miwa, she indeed looks better compared to S1. Also sure I can check that channel out. |
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