TenPuru -No One Can Live on Loneliness-
| Am I the only one who thinks this show is a weird fantasy about incel getting a harem? Yes, I know how the "unwanted harem" trope works, but I feel like the anime went way too over the top with the obsession with the protagonist's chastity. |
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Tangerine7225 said: Well, in the pursuit of virginity, this show almost reaches the level of those borderline hentai, where the female MC must be a virgin at the same time and get all types of hentai tropes.I think this is pretty refreshing actually. This guy has a confident and self-possessed personality instead of the typical harem MC who gets a stroke-level nosebleed just from a girl smiling at him. And I also enjoy how he actually explains himself to the other girls whenever he gets caught in your typical harem “looks dirty but is just a ridiculous misunderstanding” situation instead of just being like “uh-wait-ehhhh” |
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Polvo_Aranha said: Dude, if you're trying to provoke me into arrogantly remarking that you shouldn't be talking about the harem genre to someone who's watched twice or three times as much anime as you, you'd be close to the mark. RobertBobert said: Well, in the pursuit of virginity, this show almost reaches the level of those borderline hentai, where the female MC must be a virgin at the same time and get all types of hentai tropes. Once again, welcome to harem genre. |
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Isekai-Enjoyer said: Yes. After all, this is exactly what you would expect from a person with 1300+ watched shows who started watching anime twice before you. What exactly in my post led you to the conclusion that I have not watched harems before? Just because I found one show's premise ambiguous?Are you new to this…? |
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Isekai-Enjoyer said: Yes? Okay, name me 2-3 harems from the past where MCs are obsessed with their sexual purity and have to defend themselves against compulsive sexual situations. Exactly in this form, and not any ecchi, where the protagonist tries to avoid a senseless lewd.RobertBobert said: Yes. After all, this is exactly what you would expect from a person with 1300+ watched shows who started watching anime twice before you. What exactly in my post led you to the conclusion that I have not watched harems before? Just because I found one show's premise ambiguous? Because this show is exactly as every other harem ever made, yes. If you have watched this much anime, then I can only assume you haven’t read that many manga on the genre. Because really, this has been done a million times before. |
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Isekai-Enjoyer said: So, you still couldn't meet my condition, instead literally naming characters who just want to avoid lewd and who literally have no issues with the female gender, just obsessive love interests? Q.E.D.RobertBobert said: Yes? Okay, name me 2-3 harems from the past where MCs are obsessed with their sexual purity and have to defend themselves against compulsive sexual situations. Exactly in this form, and not any ecchi, where the protagonist tries to avoid a senseless lewd. Wait, this part was your issue? Bro, this is actually pretty original from this show. And if anything, it’s mostly a virtue of his. And well, this is still pretty common, except that most of the time it’s the MC just wanting to do it with the girl they love or something. The results are nonetheless about the same every time. Yuki Rito and even Raku from Nisekoi are some of them. |
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Isekai-Enjoyer said: I asked you a clear question, expecting you to back up your thesis after you arrogantly humiliate me. But in response, you literally want to tell me that a teenage boy avoiding an overly obsessive girl is analogous to a virgin monk obsessed with chastity. May I leave this without comment?RobertBobert said: So, you still couldn't meet my condition, instead literally naming characters who just want to avoid lewd and who literally have no issues with the female gender, just obsessive love interests? Q.E.D. The protagonist of this anime doesn’t have any issues with the female gender either? The hell you on? Bro just wants to be a sage. If anything, he’s ten times less annoying than the usual random teenagers we always get in manga. |
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Polvo_Aranha said: Are you kidding me? In the first show, the MC is LITERALLY trying to avoid deadly overly obsessive girls, and in the second show, the MC is trying to get rid of the girls who are preventing him from becoming a couple with his waifu. Are you deliberately naming shows that only reinforce my belief that you don't know what you're talking about? None of these shows has MCs who are virgins obsessed with trying to keep their virginity and sexual purity. It doesn't even discuss morality.RobertBobert said: Yes? Okay, name me 2-3 harems from the past where MCs are obsessed with their sexual purity and have to defend themselves against compulsive sexual situations. Exactly in this form, and not any ecchi, where the protagonist tries to avoid a senseless lewd. Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou and Osananajimi ga Zettai ni Makenai Love Comedy are two I remember. |
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SatanfromSEA said: Mmmm, go direct insults. All the way I like.Isekai-Enjoyer said: just let him be bro,he's probably an incel as well,he knows best about this kind of animeThe protagonist of this anime doesn’t have any issues with the female gender either? The hell you on? Bro just wants to be a sage. If anything, he’s ten times less annoying than the usual random teenagers we always get in manga. Isekai-Enjoyer said: Yes. Because you literally used a stupid reason to name a person with more experience than you as a newbie, and then you couldn't even partially justify it.RobertBobert said: I asked you a clear question, expecting you to back up your thesis after you arrogantly humiliate me. But in response, you literally want to tell me that a teenage boy avoiding an overly obsessive girl is analogous to a virgin monk obsessed with chastity. May I leave this without comment? Humiliating you…? Bro take your meds. Saying someone seems new to anime when they aren’t is barely an insult. Let alone an humiliation. Internet people can be scary… |
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| It's one thing to have a delusional argument over elements of the genre, but it's another thing to jump to arrogant conclusions about people you're seeing for the first time. And then complain about the fact that they call you for jumping to conclusions. RoberthLucasOdaS said: You sound like people in any fandom don't argue about the smallest details of their favorite movie, TV series, game, or even book. Don't make me tell you about Aragorn's pants.Is this serious? Are you guys arguing about a Japanese cartoon that is intended to be purely entertainment without even a commitment to reality? It really seems like the otaku community has dropped a lot these last few years. |
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| While he does want to be "voluntarily celibate" he is not in fact an "incel" as the term is most commonly applied. So, that's a resounding no. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| @SatanfromSEA Provocation + insults + labeling + gaslighting - I don't think you're the kind of person who can reproach anyone with anything here. Polvo_Aranha said: Right now you're just taking things out of context to match your attempts to squeeze them into the right conditions.RobertBobert said: Are you kidding me? In the first show, the MC is LITERALLY trying to avoid deadly overly obsessive girls, and in the second show, the MC is trying to get rid of the girls who are preventing him from becoming a couple with his waifu. Are you deliberately naming shows that only reinforce my belief that you don't know what you're talking about? None of these shows has MCs who are virgins obsessed with trying to keep their virginity and sexual purity. It doesn't even discuss morality. I named a third one later. Also, trust me: all those just remained virgin because they really wished to stay that way. Remain pure is a quite common japanese way of thinking. One of the reasons of their low birth rate. |
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Polvo_Aranha said: I didn't complain about anything in this thread, I just created a semi-serious thread about the vibes it gave me. If it's so personal to you that you're ready to switch to showdown at some point, then I'll just refuse to continue this shit.RobertBobert said: @SatanfromSEA Provocation + insults + labeling + gaslighting - I don't think you're the kind of person who can reproach anyone with anything here. Right now you're just taking things out of context to match your attempts to squeeze them into the right conditions. You are the one who started complaining about this being an incel dreaming and ended complaining about the guy wanting to remain chaste. Do you actually know what "incel" actually means? |
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| I wouldn't say this is "an incel getting a harem" since for that the MC needs to be an incel first, he is intentionally celibate, so he isn't an incel. |
| Oh, so you literally decided to start bombarding me with scarecrows in order to make me make excuses and thereby put me in a passive state and distract from the fact that none of you could argue your position after my questions? Great, as promised, I'm just going to stop responding to these classic attempts at harassment in an attempt to cover up a completely failed argument (although I have to admit that you have the audacity to keep accusing me of not knowing and/or trying the roasting genre, while have I watched more harems than you'll ever be able to and even have a couple of these shows in my favorites, really impresses me). Goodbye. |
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Ionliosite2 said: Maybe. But it doesn't matter anymore, as a couple of kids just killed this thread in an attempt to accuse me of not knowing and hating the genre just because I called them out for not being able to argue my position. Having Mahouka in my favorites, yes. It's like blaming the girl with Yuri on Ice in favorites for hating BL after she said that Yaricchin is too lewd.I wouldn't say this is "an incel getting a harem" since for that the MC needs to be an incel first, he is intentionally celibate, so he isn't an incel. |
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Polvo_Aranha said: Am I taking this too personally lol? You literally tried to use one of the most pathetic tactics when you accused me of roasting the genre just because you failed to argue your point. Although I not only defend the genre on a regular basis, I even have a couple of his shows in my favorites. You could not argue your point of view and simply decided to expose me as an ignoramus, although my experience in it is many times higher than yours. And do I take things too personally? No, YOU taking this shit too personally, trying to label a person just because you couldn't beat them in an argument.RobertBobert said: Maybe. But it doesn't matter anymore, as a couple of kids just killed this thread in an attempt to accuse me of not knowing and hating the genre just because I called them out for not being able to argue my position. Having Mahouka in my favorites, yes. It's like blaming the girl with Yuri on Ice in favorites for hating BL after she said that Yaricchin is too lewd. Guy, just chill out. You are taking it too personally. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, that doesn't mean they are wrong and just want to offend you. This is my last reply to you at all as I'm tired of hearing people try to completely erase my experience and repeated attempts to defend the genre in front of the haters just because I ruined their attempts to look like experts. |
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PeripheralVision said: I didn't say anything about pandering or that the MC is literally incel. The whole idea of the thread was that anime gave me such vibes. But I didn't even try to take it that far. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there are people outright blaming the show for this, like Genshin Impact used to be called pedo-bait just because of the very fact that there are loli characters in it. Not even sexualized.Tangerine7225 said: I agree to an extent, it is more accurate to claim it might pander to incels. There is a key difference between having a main character as an incel, and having a narrative pander to them, or overall difference between having a main character be ___ versus pandering to those who are ____.I don’t think it’s quite right to classify this guy as an incel. Incels are guys who want a girl but think that the reason they can’t land one is bc women just don’t know what they’re missing as opposed to acknowledging their own potential flaws. This guy doesn’t have anything against women, I think his vendetta is more against lustfulness, or as he calls them, “worldly desires”. He’s simply come to the albeit extreme conclusion of “I don’t have to worry about lust if I never have to interact with women” Ex. Anime that try too hard to have an "alpha male" as its main character in my opinion panders to those who are the exact opposite of being an "alpha male". Characters about people making friends may appeal to people who do not have that active of a social life, and all that. @RobertBobert Series like Rising of the Shield Hero have a pretty significant portion of the fanbase be men who see Malty as representative of the women in their lives if not women in general, and Raphtalia as what women should be like; except that they identify with Naofumi because they think they are like him, when in fact they are a bit too close to being like Idol Ranbier or The Spear hero. To be fair, I understand why one would think Temple to an extent panders to incels. The whole idea the main character has is avoiding women as if they were the problem. They are not. The idea of viewing women as temptresses neglects the responsibility of his own potential horniness. It is quite frankly a bit sexist, but maybe he will grow up to be a good person who comes to terms with worldly desires. |
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TheUnkovvn said: Oh, do you also want to bring me a couple of shows with a similar protagonist, and when you fail, accuse me of hating the genre? Dude, I've watched more harems than you anime in general.You must be new to the harem genre because this is the bare minimum standard for it back then |
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PeripheralVision said: Except, that's not the case here at all? He thinks he's cursed by his family's genes because his father was a no-good playboy. Yes, the joke is that he's not cursed, he just has zero self-control, but your interpretation is just wrong. He isn't treating women as if they're the problem or anything to do with them being temptresses, the problem is his own, and this is made very clear, he's not denying his own responsibility whatsoever. To be fair, I understand why one would think Temple to an extent panders to incels. The whole idea the main character has is avoiding women as if they were the problem. They are not. The idea of viewing women as temptresses neglects the responsibility of his own potential horniness. It is quite frankly a bit sexist, but maybe he will grow up to be a good person who comes to terms with worldly desires. I am thinking that maybe that is the purpose of the show, to have the main character not be such a prude. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Dude overthinking about it. I'm here just for some booba. |
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| I appreciate that you are so desperate that you started to appeal to the majority and demand that I agree only because you are not the only one who arrogantly judges the knowledge of the strangers, but no. P.S. Not to mention the fact that this time I did not see the answer to my question again, but okay. |
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