[Oshi No Ko]
| No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died 4 years before Ai giving birth to the babies, because that affects Ruby's whole character. |
Ionliosite2Jul 4, 2023 9:12 PM
| The last name of Ai was never published. It's only Doctor Gorō Amamiya (and possibly, the hospital staff [like the nurse]) who are aware of Ai's true identity. In the anime, the public has no interest to identify the parents of the twins because they never knew Ai had children. (My answer would be different in a manga context). No rumours would spread around, so to say, as long as the public is kept hidden from Ai's pregnancy. The public has no vested interests to seek or inquire the identity of the father. The only way that the father could circumvent/prevent himself from being found by Aqua is if he can avoid the ties or the connections to significant entertainment groups. (Again, my answer would be different in a manga context). In the anime, the audience was only told that he was part of the LaLa Lai troupe (main cast or rising star or something like that) back in the day. (That's how Ai met him or found him.) We don't know whether this is still true today or whether he still keep contacts of people in the theatre. Maybe. Maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see. |
marquinti2Jul 4, 2023 8:36 PM
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Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died like 2 years before Ai's death, because that affects Ruby's whole character. Sarina died 4 years before Ai visited the doctor while being pregnant, watch the anime again and this time pay attention. |
Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died like 2 years before Ai's death, because that affects Ruby's whole character. Sarina died 4 years before Ai visited the doctor. Ai died when the twins were just starting to attend pre-school (around 4 years old, I presume). |
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5Reinheit said: Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died like 2 years before Ai's death, because that affects Ruby's whole character. Sarina died 4 years before Ai visited the doctor while being pregnant, watch the anime again and this time pay attention. marquinti2 said: Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died like 2 years before Ai's death, because that affects Ruby's whole character. Sarina died 4 years before Ai visited the doctor. Ai died when the twins were just starting to attend pre-school (around 4 years old, I presume). I payed attention to the anime, sorry for not remembering a detail which is pretty much irrelevant because, it doesn't actually matter if it was 2 or 4 years before (yes, it was 4, thanks for the correction) she still died far before Ai giving birth. And when I said Ai's death I meant Ai giving birth to the babies, I didn't notice I wrote that wrong lol, again, thanks for the correction. |
Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died 4 years before Ai giving birth to the babies, because that affects Ruby's whole character. ChatGPT answer, since I didn't feel like explaining in full, but in short reincarnation does not have to occur immediately after death: In Buddhism, the belief in immediate reincarnation after death is not a universal concept. The understanding of reincarnation in Buddhism varies among different traditions and schools. According to Buddhist teachings, when a person dies, their consciousness continues, and the process of rebirth occurs based on the accumulated karma (actions and intentions) of their past lives. The exact timing and conditions of the next rebirth are believed to be influenced by various factors, including the individual's karma, mental states, and attachments. In some Buddhist traditions, there is a belief in the possibility of immediate rebirth, where the consciousness transitions to a new existence shortly after death. However, other traditions emphasize an intermediate state known as the bardo, where the consciousness experiences a period of transition before taking rebirth. Overall, the specific understanding of reincarnation and the timeline of rebirth can differ among Buddhist traditions, and individuals may interpret these concepts differently based on their personal beliefs and understanding of the teachings. ___________ Police would know about the children, I think they just weren't upfront to the media about it. There's birth certificates after all and you can't hide this from police What police didn't know is that this is not the first time the same stalker tracked down Ai, which should mean he has a way to find her (ie: accomplice). Even if police tracked down the father it wouldn't be enough to arrest him without physical evidence linking him to the stalker. If they talked to father and he didn't arouse suspicion plus he only talked to Ai on a payphone that can't be traced (as shown in ep 1) so he can say he didn't even know her address, then it makes sense that they wouldn't have enough evidence to do anything. |
watsymJul 5, 2023 4:28 AM
watsym said: Ionliosite2 said: No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died 4 years before Ai giving birth to the babies, because that affects Ruby's whole character. ChatGPT answer, since I didn't feel like explaining in full, but in short reincarnation does not have to occur immediately after death: In Buddhism, the belief in immediate reincarnation after death is not a universal concept. The understanding of reincarnation in Buddhism varies among different traditions and schools. According to Buddhist teachings, when a person dies, their consciousness continues, and the process of rebirth occurs based on the accumulated karma (actions and intentions) of their past lives. The exact timing and conditions of the next rebirth are believed to be influenced by various factors, including the individual's karma, mental states, and attachments. In some Buddhist traditions, there is a belief in the possibility of immediate rebirth, where the consciousness transitions to a new existence shortly after death. However, other traditions emphasize an intermediate state known as the bardo, where the consciousness experiences a period of transition before taking rebirth. Overall, the specific understanding of reincarnation and the timeline of rebirth can differ among Buddhist traditions, and individuals may interpret these concepts differently based on their personal beliefs and understanding of the teachings. As far as I wouldn't take ChatGPT to answer me for anything, the fact that reincarnation doesn't need to be immediate is true. However, this is the thing, ChatGPT's answer explains about bardo, which is a process of supposedly 49 days. Jainism is one that says that the process of reincarnation can take even uncountable years to happen, but I doubt Akasaka is suscribed to it. |
Ionliosite2 said: This doesnt make sense considering that a woman is only pregnant for 9 months.No, the most concerning plothole is how Sarina reincarnated in Ruby when she died 4 years before Ai giving birth to the babies, because that affects Ruby's whole character. |
chenfeng said: The only reason that Aqua knows that the killer had someone feeding him information is that he has the prior knowledge that the stalker also showed up at the hospital during the initial killing which the police wouldn't know. There being two instances of the man finding Ai is the important part, otherwise the more likely assumption is that it was just a coincidence that a stalker spotted her and trailed her back to her home so I don't know why you're convinced that the police would definitely catch a conspirator, especially with the suspect dead and unable to answer any questions. This also explains the second part of your comment. There is definitely a possibility that the father is monitoring the kids, but why would he bother? The kids were like 3 years old when Ai died and again without the prior context of the killer being at the hospital there is no reason for them to suspect their father, or anyone for that matter. I just don't think that a person not expecting a doctor reincarnated as a child to climb through the entertainment industry so that he could perform DNA tests on various people and take revenge is a plot hole but just common sense. I haven't read the manga though so I don't know if he is monitoring them or not either way.noobo69 said: i sure hope so,As a manga reader, I'll definitely say that Akasaka Sensei knows how to fill up those plot holes, even if filling those can only be done by introducing batshit plot twists and I'm here for it. i keep seeing everyone state that the kids were kept secret so no one would be interested in investigating the "father". however that is not the approach I'm referring to. Any famous person with a huge following would have multiple parties that would have a vested interest in the person's death from the police and family to fans and contractual partners. even if there was a culprit caught and a confession there would still be trail of investigation into every aspect of the case. like Aqua has easily deduced, how was it that the culprit was able to find Ai no matter where she moved? where was his information coming from? only a person in the know (the unknown father) would be able to give him the tip-off besides her agency which he already ruled out as they have no quarrel and again a vested interest in their star and group. Likewise as i stated before with something this obvious there no way that someone investigating be it a fan or the police could miss this theory of reasoning. there is no need for the knowledge of the kids to know there is more to the story and likewise it is easily deduced that if you have a orphan child that knows they are an orphan that they will likely desire to look or know who their real parents are some point in their life. So no he staying hidden because he wants to stay hidden and yes he will obviously be observing the children to prevent them from finding him. |
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