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Mar 26, 2023 11:17 AM
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I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 

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Mar 26, 2023 11:24 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 

the story was pretty compelling with the great animation and sound design. it truly encapsulates how people w/ suicidal thoughts would behave in a situation like that. i adore knk with all my heart and it held a special place in life(always will be). its a pleasure to be able to watch this masterpiece.
Mar 26, 2023 11:27 AM
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i love this film :(
Mar 26, 2023 11:28 AM
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wait. you hated it yet you watched it a second time? damn. still you hate it a lot more you should. i personally enjoyed it. but i won't go out of my way to call it a masterpiece.
Mar 26, 2023 11:30 AM
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This post is another proof that this site is full of 13 yr olds(physically or mentally) who struggle to understand people with experiences other than them exist,.Any show with any form of nuanced portrayal of human interaction is going to be met with hordes of basement dwellers who either lack emotional intelligence or are user that it's characters deviate from the standard escapist fantasy model they crave.
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Mar 26, 2023 11:31 AM
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ryangosling007 said:
SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 

the story was pretty compelling with the great animation and sound design. it truly encapsulates how people w/ suicidal thoughts would behave in a situation like that. i adore knk with all my heart and it held a special place in life(always will be). its a pleasure to be able to watch this masterpiece.


Again, not arguing about the presentation. I prefer other topics than suicide and depression. I’ve never been at those low points in life, so I do not relate. Nor have I been bullied as the movie portrays.
Mar 26, 2023 11:32 AM
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wait. you hated it yet you watched it a second time? damn. still you hate it a lot more you should. i personally enjoyed it. but i won't go out of my way to call it a masterpiece.

he didn't mention that he hated it.
Mar 26, 2023 11:32 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 


its a 'right place at the right time " anime for me
Mar 26, 2023 11:33 AM
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You don’t haft to relate to a character to like a show lol the movie had a lot more to it than just some sad shit you just mite not have any empathy lmao
Mar 26, 2023 11:34 AM

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AniMe_gA_dAiSuKl said:
Potatoboy11 said:
wait. you hated it yet you watched it a second time? damn. still you hate it a lot more you should. i personally enjoyed it. but i won't go out of my way to call it a masterpiece.

he didn't mention that he hated it.

please stop taking things too literally, and start reading between the lines.
Mar 26, 2023 11:35 AM
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This movie was so good. I think of it as a movie that grasps the change of heart in a bully towards a deaf girl. Absolutely amazing.
Mar 26, 2023 11:35 AM
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K-_-01 said:
This post is another proof that this site is full of 13 yr olds(physically or mentally) who struggle to understand people with experiences other than them exist,.Any show with any form of nuanced portrayal human interaction is going to be met with a brigade "not relateable" by basement-dwellers.


“A person didn’t like the movie I like, that means I will call them a childish 13 year old because they don’t relate to it”

Incredible argument. 100000/10. I love seeing KnK defenders who will call you incompetent for “not understanding such a refined ‘masterpiece’ ”
Mar 26, 2023 11:36 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
ryangosling007 said:
the story was pretty compelling with the great animation and sound design. it truly encapsulates how people w/ suicidal thoughts would behave in a situation like that. i adore knk with all my heart and it held a special place in life(always will be). its a pleasure to be able to watch this masterpiece.


Again, not arguing about the presentation. I prefer other topics than suicide and depression. I’ve never been at those low points in life, so I do not relate. Nor have I been bullied as the movie portrays.

You do not have to relate to the movie in order to love it. At least, that is the story with me.
Mar 26, 2023 11:36 AM

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You should rethink your title naming. It'll lead to confusion and the wrong interpretation of you, which as you can see, already has. 
Mar 26, 2023 11:36 AM
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This might be one of the worst opinions I’ve ever seen. A spinet voice is without a doubt a masterpiece. If you can’t see that then you are just stupid
Mar 26, 2023 11:38 AM

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I assume the demographics that like it so much are women since the Mc is pretty tall and the slight sado masochistic relationship the romance has.  I really did not like it since I could not remember any character names.  Drama is my lowest rated genre too.  Pretty animation can please a large audience.
Mar 26, 2023 11:39 AM
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TheOmniPantheon said:
SatouMatsuzaka said:


Again, not arguing about the presentation. I prefer other topics than suicide and depression. I’ve never been at those low points in life, so I do not relate. Nor have I been bullied as the movie portrays.

You do not have to relate to the movie in order to love it. At least, that is the story with me.


Hm. I haven’t ever lost someone personally, but I absolutely loved “I Want To Eat Your Pancreas” . When it comes to KnK, i just can’t bring myself to enjoy it. You like watching a deaf girl get bullied?
Mar 26, 2023 11:40 AM
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Potatoboy11 said:
AniMe_gA_dAiSuKl said:

he didn't mention that he hated it.

please stop taking things too literally, and start reading between the lines.

O, my bad 🙂. ...
Mar 26, 2023 11:41 AM
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I mean I personally think it should have been adapted into a TV anime rather than a movie which would have given them time to actually fully adapt the manga and include more of the side characters like in the manga but overall it was a good movie. Definitely not a masterpiece though
Mar 26, 2023 11:41 AM
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I'm not gonna read some rant about why you didn't like this movie,
Don't like it ? give a low rating and move on
there's a reason it has 8.90+ rating on MAL
people enjoy it


Mar 26, 2023 11:42 AM

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I don't follow you. I appreciate that you tried to explain what's so sad about people liking this movie but why does one have to relate to an anime to like it? How does one relate to Made in Abyss or Your Name exactly?




Mar 26, 2023 11:42 AM
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Bruh_epic said:
This might be one of the worst opinions I’ve ever seen. A spinet voice is without a doubt a masterpiece. If you can’t see that then you are just stupid


Never heard of A Spinet voice
Mar 26, 2023 11:43 AM
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It's kind of sad that people have forgotten that they can post a review instead of making a thread
Mar 26, 2023 11:44 AM
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RioFS said:
I don't follow you. I appreciate that you tried to explain what's so sad about people liking this movie but why does one have to relate to an anime to like it? How does one relate to Made in Abyss or Your Name exactly?


It’s the real topics this movie covers. You either relate, or you don’t. We all can enjoy fantasy, in contrast.
Mar 26, 2023 11:45 AM

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K-_-01 said:
This post is another proof that this site is full of 13 yr olds(physically or mentally) who struggle to understand people with experiences other than them exist,.Any show with any form of nuanced portrayal of human interaction is going to be met with hordes of basement dwellers who either lack emotional intelligence or are user that it's characters deviate from the standard escapist fantasy model they crave.


Not really. His/her review was very mature and explained why they didn't love it but expressed understanding of why others might like it. Your post is the one that comes across as an immature overreaction devoid of any understanding of his/her perspective and instead boiling it down to "he/she must hate the show and not be able to appreciate other people's experiences, because they didn't love the show", which ironically is far less "nuanced" than the opening post.
"The f**ker who goes round beating people to a pulp. He thinks it'll never happen to himself. But there's gonna be a day when the f**ker gets f**king beaten to a pulp too. But that day's f**king today and the guy doing the beating is a f**king c**t." - Sang-hoon, Breathless (2009)
Mar 26, 2023 11:45 AM
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soniyay said:
I'm not gonna read some rant about why you didn't like this movie,
Don't like it ? give a low rating and move on
there's a reason it has 8.90+ rating on MAL
people enjoy it


Cause a majority of our generation is depressed and suicidal I’m assuming.
Mar 26, 2023 11:46 AM

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SatouMatsuzaka said:
RioFS said:
I don't follow you. I appreciate that you tried to explain what's so sad about people liking this movie but why does one have to relate to an anime to like it? How does one relate to Made in Abyss or Your Name exactly?


It’s the real topics this movie covers. You either relate, or you don’t. We all can enjoy fantasy, in contrast.

Which is very different from you either liking it or not. And the middle ground.




Mar 26, 2023 11:51 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
TheOmniPantheon said:

You do not have to relate to the movie in order to love it. At least, that is the story with me.


Hm. I haven’t ever lost someone personally, but I absolutely loved “I Want To Eat Your Pancreas” . When it comes to KnK, i just can’t bring myself to enjoy it. You like watching a deaf girl get bullied?

I Want to Eat Your Pancreas is also a really good film, but I do not see your point. I am not trying to argue with you, but I will at least answer your question. No, I do not like to see a deaf girl getting bullied. In fact, I cringed at it while watching the Movie. However, looking back, I can now see that the MC bullying the deaf girl was the start of Character Development for the MC. His development, of course, being a change of heart as he got older and wanting to make amends with her. That is why I see this Movie as a masterpiece. The Character Development. I don't relate to it, but I still loved it. I mean I was bullied when I was in school, but not incredibly badly.

That being said, you shouldn't post things like this because you will get a LOT of hate. I respect your decision for not enjoying this movie as much as others have, but don't put your opinions forth onto others.
Mar 26, 2023 11:54 AM
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 


I fully appreciate your opinion. Personally, I think it’s one of the most beautiful films I ever saw. I like the way it handles the theme mobbing a bit differently then you gonna see in over movies.
Mar 26, 2023 11:55 AM

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I don't think you need to directly experience something in order to have empathy for others, you're overthinking the fact you didn't like it. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Mar 26, 2023 11:55 AM

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what the actual fcuk
This film succeeded, because majority of new generation is depressed, miserable and suicidal? What kind of logic is that?

A short stroll on the Twitter will tell you complete opposite story, that those miserable and depressed people you talk about actually hate this movie because it decided to give a redemption arc to a bully, which they consider irredeemable.
New generation is in fact spoiled, bratty, vindictive and incapable of compassion, because most of them were raised being told that they're special and world revolves around them and world should come to a screeching halt if something upsets them.
This movie succeeded because people appreciated phenomenal character development.
And you don't need to 100% relate to a character to perfectly understand their plight and hardship. That's what empathy is about and that's what allowed people to appreciate this movie.
You are like 180* wrong.
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monder_Killer17 said:
SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 


I fully appreciate your opinion. Personally, I think it’s one of the most beautiful films I ever saw. I like the way it handles the theme mobbing a bit differently then you gonna see in over movies.

For me, Yoshitoki Oima‘s writing has never disappointed me, should it be with a silent voice or to your eternity( which you can see from my list is one of my favorite mangas)
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TheOmniPantheon said:
SatouMatsuzaka said:


Hm. I haven’t ever lost someone personally, but I absolutely loved “I Want To Eat Your Pancreas” . When it comes to KnK, i just can’t bring myself to enjoy it. You like watching a deaf girl get bullied?

I Want to Eat Your Pancreas is also a really good film, but I do not see your point. I am not trying to argue with you, but I will at least answer your question. No, I do not like to see a deaf girl getting bullied. In fact, I cringed at it while watching the Movie. However, looking back, I can now see that the MC bullying the deaf girl was the start of Character Development for the MC. His development, of course, being a change of heart as he got older and wanting to make amends with her. That is why I see this Movie as a masterpiece. The Character Development. I don't relate to it, but I still loved it. I mean I was bullied when I was in school, but not incredibly badly.

That being said, you shouldn't post things like this because you will get a LOT of hate. I respect your decision for not enjoying this movie as much as others have, but don't put your opinions forth onto others.


Part of me savors the discussion tbh, even if I do get hated on because of it. And yeah, I can see how his development goes full 180, not denying you there. You are absolute free to enjoy the movie as much as you like.
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
I am not a fan of Koe No Katachi, and found it a drag to sit through for a majority of the runtime. I have watched it twice now, and have not changed my thoughts on it. Now at least visually, Kyoani never disappoints. But as far as plot wise, the pacing felt so incredibly off. It feels like a 3 hour + movie, with certain characters that just make you want to tear your own hair out. The drama that plays out feels very contrived. There is even a certain bully who gets “redeemed” at the end and all the awful things she caused just gets forgotten about without any sort of consequences. Nishimiya isn’t much of a character, only being used as a device for the MCs development. 

I have never struggled with depression or suicidal thoughts in my life. I do not relate to this movie. But it’s success reveals something pretty worrying about our generation. That a large portion of people have struggled with those previously mentioned issues, and see themselves in the MC in one way or another. I get it, but it’s NOT going to hit everyone the same. I feel bad that so many people are relating to it. 


Also, you can freely say your opinion, but do shit on other peoples taste or say that they are bad because they like something. Everybody has his own opinion on things, that’s just how it works.
Mar 26, 2023 12:05 PM

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I found A Silent Voice very boring (it felt like a 3h movie like you said) and the characters dumb, I can't relate at all even though I should have, maybe ?

I can't fathom the success behind it, so I'll just pass my way.
Mar 26, 2023 12:06 PM

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was going to argue but then i saw your name. you’re all good
Mar 26, 2023 12:10 PM
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it's definitely mid
Mar 26, 2023 12:11 PM
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I felt like it has no ending. It just throws a visual representation of "everything is fixed now" out of nowhere and credits roll.
Mar 26, 2023 12:15 PM

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To think that you need to have experienced something yourself to understand it is IDIOTIC.

This movie isn't great because it ressonates with a lot of people, but because it very impressively portrays the maturing of kids and their regrets.

I don't know what you expect the characters of a movie to become, or how you want them to interact. Nishimiya is not a narrative device to develop the main character. She is a main character herself. But because she acts in a way that seems illogical to you, you can only attribute it to it being for the sake of narrative.

This applies to ishida and ueno as well. You've never struggled with depression or suicidal ideation, or with having been a bully, having pride, and wanting a group of friends you've had since early childhood to remain no matter what, even after such a devastating conflict, but being a kid and not knowing how to manage this complicated situation wisely.

But this movie portrays all of this so brilliantly. You just didn't like it, I think probably didn't understand it, and so you think people liking it is something to be sad about. What a silly silly way of thinking.
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I grow up living with my older sister who has a disability.

Thats enough reason for me on why this is one if not my favorite anime.

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what?
You are surprised why most people who like this atleast suffered depression or atleast empathized on it?
Really?
& youve been in this site for awhile at that.

& i consider you lucky.
You never experienced depression nor what Nishimiya & Ishida,
If not,
Me & my sister had experienced.

Trust me.
You dont want it at all.
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it's called an opinion this post was super unnecessary *Jorge Madsvidal voice*
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have you ever thought people have different taste 😮 anyways here before thread gets locked
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So you think you need to be experienced with something to understand it? WTF? And this movie succeeded because the generation is suicidal and miserable?
I was already pissed off with the title. But after reading what you just said, I don't even wanna argue with you.
Mar 26, 2023 12:28 PM
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"I don't like what majority likes, so it's bad"🤡
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SatouMatsuzaka said:
Bruh_epic said:
This might be one of the worst opinions I’ve ever seen. A spinet voice is without a doubt a masterpiece. If you can’t see that then you are just stupid


Never heard of A Spinet voice

Fck of course I had to make typo 💀
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I understand why people like it so much. it really did tug at my heartstrings a bit and anything that resonates strongly on an emotional level will have more impact than just pure dumb entertainment. But I gave it a 7 because too much of it's short runtime was wasted on half-assed exploration of shitty cruel people in a failed attempt to humanize them.
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my dude you made People angry emocion is power
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about Nishimiya, she's supposed to be a chatacter who is constantly acting nice to others and putting up a front because of her depression. after she gets saved by Ishida, she's done living for others and stops putting up that persona. in that sense idk if this post just comes from misunderstandings but ye
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So you think you need to be experienced with something to understand it? WTF? And this movie succeeded because the generation is suicidal and miserable?
I was already pissed off with the title. But after reading what you just said, I don't even wanna argue with you.

To start, I’m directing this towards the OP, but I liked what you said and wanted to build off it, so I quoted you as well (I wanted to make sure you knew I wasn’t coming off as harsh towards yourself). Without further ado, I find it very abysmal that the OP would claim such things of a generation. When faced with a realistic premise, they figure that the characters need to be relatable (this is my takeaway, correct me if I’m wrong). No one person is the same; empathy in reality takes much more than relational similarities. People like to self-insert, and all I ever hear of it is whether they really could or not (which in turn leads to a large portion of whether they are dissatisfied with a show or not). Before I get off track and endlessly ramble on which I could (I assume many already find this confusing)… KEY POINT: The only thing one should be doing when absorbing a story is placing themself in the shoes of the characters (understand THEIR feelings and what compels THEM to take action [You are not them]). To say you simply don’t relate is just half-assing any interpretation of a message that an author is seeking to give. He didn’t write his story about YOU.
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I mean, you can think and say what you want, but people say it’s a masterpiece for a reason. Ofc, it’s not the best but I loved it. Relatability isn’t the only thing people should look for in stories.
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