| @StormStar Go watch more Anime instead of trolling in the forums with your poor critical discernment skills Also do you even know what is Deus Ex Machina? And how does Happy Ending even make something Bad? |
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| Of course its one piece man ........ |
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| Heck yeah they are. A 10/10 has to feel like you have been kah-may-hah-may-hawed to outer space into the fking sun |
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| Of course my 10/10s aren't 'really' 10/10s. A 10/10 to me, is completely subjective and always will be- but I use that score to mark shows or movies that really left an emotional impression on me that I find hard to put into words. It's not to say it was 'perfect', but that to me, the experience was as close to perfect as it could possibly get. I would never use that score (or any other score, really) to make a point, I just try to make sure that they accurately reflect how I felt about a show or a movie (or how I felt in comparison to other shows and movies) when I watched it. |
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| For me a 10/10 could be also a 9.52 or 9.78, just like the score is displayed on the main page of an anime or manga. Since MAL doesn't use a fine gradation method for single users, I imagine it and can happily live with my "masterpieces". |
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| Yes, I obviously rate my 10s based on the plot, character development, pacing, story, and last but not least; the animation/art style. Never have I ever tried to unfairly vote for an anime because of any related controversy attached to it. Of course, the shows I rate are based on my opinion. None of them are ratings on what the general public thinks. I'm really critical when it comes to what I find perfect, so I rarely give out 10s. |
StormStar said: Memores said: You are welcome! I hope that you like them. I picked a show from your list that I think I might like, Mouryou no Hako, watching it now. Yes, thank you! It is an amazing detective series! I also recommend you to read its prequel and sequels. |
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StormStar said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: @StormStar Go watch more Anime instead of trolling in the forums with your poor critical discernment skills Also do you even know what is Deus Ex Machina? And how does Happy Ending even make something Bad? Yes, DEM like everyone in Tokyo Ghoul having plot armour, more plot armour than even characters in childrens Shounen, the characters in TG have more plot armour than Naruto characters lol, TG is a shounen hiding in a Seinen publication. How do you not see all the death fake outs, literally nothing had any consequence, and anytime you think somebody is dead, oh no they are revived later and they are back. Its basically edgy Fairy tale for twighlight fans. So the only flaw you pointed out is Plot Armour Pot calling Kettle black LMAO Meanwhile, Araki just forgets major plotpoints and fights are all style no substance (No emotional Value) |
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| Definitely not all of them lol Some like Monster or Violet Evergarden I feel like I could argue are actually THAT good, but I also gave Naruto & Demon Slayer a 10 and I feel like that is more a combination of it being good (but not truly a masterpiece) and just how much it clicked with me. Naruto got me into anime and I was like more than a decade younger when I got into it so naturally I was (and still am) all about it. Demon Slayer was like the perfect series to get me back into anime full swing, so while I am aware it's not legitimately the best thing ever it's still a 10 to me :') The extreme ends of the rating spectrum are generally influenced by our emotions/personal taste, so I don't necessarily read into it too much. |
| No show (or anything really) is perfect, that is for sure. That's why there are phrases like "This show/thing is perfect for me". I, for once, rate shows as a 10/10 only If most of the show's elements, preferred by myself, are at their peak of what I like. You can try and review a show, but no one can PERFECTLY review a show in a way that objectively tells you what the show does and does not do good, as good is subjective, and can be something to one and a completely different thing to another. |
StormStar said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: So the only flaw you pointed out is Plot Armour Pot calling Kettle black LMAO Meanwhile, Araki just forgets major plotpoints and fights are all style no substance (No emotional Value) Yeah the difference is, I actually take points off of Araki's work and don't rate Jojo's 10/10, so I acknowledge the problems in the work you don't. Also if you want to get into fight scenes and characters, I can't even tell what's going on in 50% of Tokyo Ghouls fight scenes in the manga, because they are so poorly drawn, like seriously, and at least I can remember all of the characters in Jojo's, who are all of the random ass characters introduced in Tokyo Ghoul later chapters. He just randomly inserts 500 thousand characters, and everyone looks the same, can't even tell what's happening during a fight panel, and can't even tell what characters i'm even looking at. Here's random character 329, who looks the same as character 326, good luck figuring out what's going on. The characters are so basic, none of them passing the silhouette test. The only objective argument (That too is fallacy) you gave is Fight Scenes Are you Serious? Tokyo Ghoul does not have Random ass fights between heroes and villains It has a proper build-up and everyone has a reason unlike JoJo where it's just CUZ I'M EVIL 10/10 Don't necessarily have to be flawless because I said it before that Mary Sue and Gary Stu do not exist in real life Also, Jonathan Joestar is Gary Stu |
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StormStar said: Yes, it starts pretty bizarre, I agree.Memores said: Yes, thank you! It is an amazing detective series! I also recommend you to read its prequel and sequels. I'm about 4 episodes into the anime right now, I'll check the manga out after, this show doesn't wait to get weird does it lol, random guy shows up on a train in the first scene and opens "the box." Its OP is amazing! I can listen to it forever! This anime series is an adaptation of the novel with the same name which was written Natsuhiko Kyogoku, so you don't need to read this part of the series, it was fully adapted into this anime series. And they have done it brilliantly! It is the second work in Natsuhiko Kyogoku Kyogokudou series about atheist onmyōji Akihiko "Kyogokudo" Chuzenji. First work is The Summer of the Ubume, second is Box of Goblins, third is Dreams of Mad Bones, fourth is Iron Cage of the Mouse and the final part is Hyakki Yakou Series. There is also manga spin-off titled The Mononoke Journal by Chuuzenji-sensei about Akihiko Chuuzenji about how he investigate different cases with the students. http://myanimelist.net/manga/70179 The Summer of the Ubume http://myanimelist.net/manga/20567 Dreams of Mad Bones http://myanimelist.net/manga/104513 Iron Cage of the Mouse http://myanimelist.net/manga/93801 Hyakki Yakou Series http://myanimelist.net/manga/136352 The Mononoke Journal by Chuuzenji-sensei |
MemoreJan 24, 2023 6:26 AM
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| Yes, as I rate them by how entertained I was. To me a masterpiece is something I'd watch again, right now, hence SAO is a ten. A 9 is for technical masterpieces that may not have the rewatch value |
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| Some of them yes, some of them no. For example, I gave Pokémon The First Movie a 10/10 because I watched the VHS as a kid probably more times than any other movie. Is it a 10/10 movie? No, but it's 10/10 in my heart. |
| Except for S;G all my 10s are shows I believe are perfect. S;G is a 10 because it's the first anime that left me flabbergasted. |
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StormStar said: I also like it so much!Memores said: Yes, it starts pretty bizarre, I agree. Its OP is amazing! I can listen to it forever! This anime series is an adaptation of the novel with the same name which was written Natsuhiko Kyogoku, so you don't need to read this part of the series, it was fully adapted into this anime series. And they have done it brilliantly! It is the second work in Natsuhiko Kyogoku Kyogokudou series about atheist onmyōji Akihiko "Kyogokudo" Chuzenji. First work is The Summer of the Ubume, second is Box of Goblins, third is Dreams of Mad Bones, fourth is Iron Cage of the Mouse and the final part is Hyakki Yakou Series. There is also manga spin-off titled The Mononoke Journal by Chuuzenji-sensei about Akihiko Chuuzenji about how he investigate different cases with the students. http://myanimelist.net/manga/70179 The Summer of the Ubume http://myanimelist.net/manga/20567 Dreams of Mad Bones http://myanimelist.net/manga/104513 Iron Cage of the Mouse http://myanimelist.net/manga/93801 Hyakki Yakou Series http://myanimelist.net/manga/136352 The Mononoke Journal by Chuuzenji-sensei It's pretty good so far, thanks for all the links, I like the opening theme, heard iot quite a few times, hasn't got old yet. I forgot to mention that you can watch Special about the investigative notes that Atsuko, the younger sister of the main character Akihiko Chuzenji, wrote about the brutal dismembering incidents in the main story: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6736 It is pretty interesting to watch! |
MemoreJan 24, 2023 7:06 AM
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StormStar said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: The only objective argument (That too is fallacy) you gave is Fight Scenes Are you Serious? Tokyo Ghoul does not have Random ass fights between heroes and villains It has a proper build-up and everyone has a reason unlike JoJo where it's just CUZ I'M EVIL 10/10 Don't necessarily have to be flawless because I said it before that Mary Sue and Gary Stu do not exist in real life Also, Jonathan Joestar is Gary Stu I said Tokyo ghoul has confusing fight scenes where you can't even see what's happening, as in the scenes are not clear, the motion and movement are not done well. The characters are not introduced well, especially in RE, tons of half assed characters are entered into the mix, where you don't even know or remember who any of them are, I never said the fights were for random reasons between hero and villain. I am saying the show has zero stakes though, little to no consequences in the last parts, and everybody has plot armour in the end. The ending of Tokyo Ghoul is below mid, the author couldn't even commit to his own original plan for the manga, he chickened out on his original intended story, and you can easily tell at least 4-5 of the deaths he planned were retconned to be fake deaths, where he originally planned to kill them off. ARE YOU JOKING WHEN YOU SAID NO CONSEQUENCES? LITERALLY THE FIGHTS HIGHLIGHT THE HIDDEN DEPTHS AND TRAITS OF A CERTAIN CHARACTER AND THE DEATHS HAVE CONSEQUENCES IN THE FORM OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (Something that did not exist in JoJo till Part 7 and then in Part 8 it reverted back to it's shitty format) I completely forgot JoJolion had the worst JoJo Ending that left so many questions unsolved that even Tokyo Ghoul has better ending Do you even know the meaning of Retcon? Retcon is plot twist without foreshadowing Tokyo Ghoul has always had magnificent symbolism and foreshadowing |
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tchitchouan said: No, not really my 10/10 are just the anime that i really like for various personal reasons and a personal criteria scale based on boobs and nudity not on story, narrative, animation quality, character development or pacing. that's why to me Queen's Blade is an 11/10.  What a legend, godspeed you son of a bitch. :P |
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Rischie said: tchitchouan said: No, not really my 10/10 are just the anime that i really like for various personal reasons and a personal criteria scale based on boobs and nudity not on story, narrative, animation quality, character development or pacing. that's why to me Queen's Blade is an 11/10. What a legend, godspeed you son of a bitch. :P Aww, thank you so much my fellow friend :3 |
| 10/10 doesn't mean perfect to me, if you're using whole numbers to rate it should just mean "above 9.5/10" 10 = so incredible I don't care about its negative aspects 1 = so terrible I can't find anything I like in it |
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StormStar said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: ARE YOU JOKING WHEN YOU SAID NO CONSEQUENCES? LITERALLY THE FIGHTS HIGHLIGHT THE HIDDEN DEPTHS AND TRAITS OF A CERTAIN CHARACTER AND THE DEATHS HAVE CONSEQUENCES IN THE FORM OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (Something that did not exist in JoJo till Part 7 and then in Part 8 it reverted back to it's shitty format) I completely forgot JoJolion had the worst JoJo Ending that left so many questions unsolved that even Tokyo Ghoul has better ending Do you even know the meaning of Retcon? Retcon is plot twist without foreshadowing Tokyo Ghoul has always had magnificent symbolism and foreshadowing Retcon is not "a plot twist without foreshadowing" Retcon is changing things that were never meant to happen, or never intended to happen then being put into the story, Tokyo Ghoul from the authors storyboard was 100% altered and he retconned fake deaths while leaving the actual scenes in. Lazy retcon as well, he didn't even rewrite the originally planned scenes and deaths, he just carried out those scenes but instead of having characters die, he changed the result to them all living instead to force a fairytale ending in, instead of his originally planned dark crushing ending. He literally did a complete 180 and changed his original storyboards and ending, this is 100% a retcon from his authors perspective, he had everything planned out and the story was building up to his conclusion that he already planned out, then he backed out on his original plan that he was building up to. As a fan viewing it from the outside, you can pretend "The story was always planned to be this way, he never actually changed anything and retconned previously established plot" But that's not an honest look from the authors design birds eye view, he 100% planned and built up to a shockingly traumatic ending, 100% premeditated and planned the characters deaths in his storyboard and notes, then decided to completely change the ending, a 100% 180 degree turn, and instead of the real ending, he gave you a disney movie ending. You're a hardcore TG fanboy, so keep your rose tinted glasses on and pretend it's a 10/10, but we all know TGRE was not 10/10 at all. It started off great, and got worse and worse, until it ended in a car crash wreck. First of all, I agree the Ending was not good and the most irritating things were dead characters coming back in the conclusion and left out characters but there is no way before the Final Chapter anything was under 8/10 Objectively You're only sticking to ONE SINGLE FLAW THAT IS THE RUSHED FINAL CHAPTER Also How long have we been even arguing? I can't believe you ruined my MAL Experience here after I woke up from Dormancy after a whole year |
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| My 10/10s had something that connected with me. When i think about them i cant help but smile at the great experiences i had with them. They arent the best objectively. I dont give out 1/10s because i mostly drop a show before i finish a 1/10. |
| yeah my favorites are definitely 10/10 but most of them have lots of plotholes |
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| So many threads with people being kinda insecure with rating something 10/10. Maybe MAL should change it back to "outstanding" instead of masterpiece. It doesn't have to be an objectively flawless piece of high art;just really, really good to you for one reason or another. |
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StormStar said: Faxtual_Ghoul said: First of all, I agree the Ending was not good and the most irritating things were dead characters coming back in the conclusion and left out characters but there is no way before the Final Chapter anything was under 8/10 Objectively You're only sticking to ONE SINGLE FLAW THAT IS THE RUSHED FINAL CHAPTER Also How long have we been even arguing? I can't believe you ruined my MAL Experience here after I woke up from Dormancy after a whole year Many people believe the ending and conclusion to a plot driven story is the most important part of the entire experience. A good show can completely be ruined be a terrible ending, I enjoy talking about and debating anime, if you aren't enjoying taking part in the discussion about Tokyo Ghoul then just stop replying and talking about Tokyo Ghoul with me. Nobody is making you take part in this discussion bro. Pot Calling Kettle Black I gave you an example of JoJolion having terrible ending Then, I already posted why my rating is still 10/10 as I count overall greatness Also, you're only bringing up the same point again and again |
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| 10/10 objectively doesn't exist. The highest scored average is barely into the 9/10 score and even then you'll find plenty who will think FMAB or Death Note isn't all that great or they don't like it as much as most. So a 10/10 score is just everyone's personal opinion at the end of the day. |
| Attention everyone @StormStar has rated Naruto and One Punch Man man higher than Parasyte, Ergo Proxy, Mononoke Home, FLCL and Fruits Basket So if you want to still continue as arguing go forward |
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StormStar said: You just got trapped in your own trapThe ending of Jojolion was better than Tokyo Ghouls, not as good as other JoJo parts though. Overall greatness must not include all of RE then, because RE sucked. Pot Calling Kettle Black How was JoJolion Ending that left even more questions unanswered than Tokyo Ghoul Re better? Tokyo Ghoul had perfect ending for at least Kaneki's character arc. At least he was happy at the end. JoJolion ended with a random flashback with no explanation. The whole story was bullshit after bullshit all for the sake of being bizarre. Also, I did not understand your second statement? Why are you only including the Ending of Re? |
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StormStar said: As I said before you just got beaten with your argument.I gave Naruto a 7, and I stand by that, Gai Sensei and Rock Lee's character interaction was amazing. It gets points knocked off for needing a filler guide to watch it. StormStar said: Good Comedy ShowOne Punch man is good I stand by that, it's a great comedy show and I love comedy anime. OK? StormStar said: Are you SERIOUS?Parasyte had good parts and I liked the weird comedy interactions, but I didn't find it scary or dark, when I think it was intended to be disturbing, came off as fake edgy to me. SCARY OR DARK? It was never intended to be even edgy. It is deep and philosophical StormStar said: Boring and Dull. Now I understand why you did not like Tokyo Ghoul. Because you cannot comprehend.Ergo Proxy is over rated as some kind of high concept elitist show, when to be honest it's boring and dull. StormStar said: Artstyle hatred? Do you rate by enjoyment or greatness?Mononoke has a decent story, and is interesting, but I hate the art style, and really did not enjoy looking at it. StormStar said: So you just hated it because it ended too fast? WTF?FLCL was too short, I liked it but there was a lot going on in such a short time, I think it should have been made longer. StormStar said: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? WHO IS THE MARY SUE HERE?Fruits Basket sorry to say this was mid af, can't stand the main female character, so boring, I thought you had a problem with Mary Sues? Guess it's okay when they are your waifu. She has her own insecurities and has own tragic arc. Also, WAIFUS? DIDN'T YOU READ MY PROFILE OR SIGNATURE PROPERLY? |
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| @StormStar I don't see the point of our debate here Are you trying to be Objective or Subjective? When defending yourself you bring up subjectivity while using strawman objective arguments against not only me but others too Do you even accept others opinions? By the way I do not remember how did this debate even start |
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StormStar said: I said it before that our debate was meaningless because for me 75% of JoJo is garbageFaxtual_Ghoul said: You have said you don't see the point of our debate about 6 times already, and said you're not going to waste your time debating me about 3 times, and said you don't know how this even started twice.@StormStar I don't see the point of our debate here Are you trying to be Objective or Subjective? When defending yourself you bring up subjectivity while using strawman objective arguments against not only me but others too Do you even accept others opinions? By the way I do not remember how did this debate even start Why don't you just stop then. All of your opinions on anime and whats a 10/10 are subjective, so are mine what you find a 10/10 others might find garbage. Like Tokyo Ghoul, which is garbage. |
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