Vinland Saga
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raceraot said: there's nothing confusing about it. The most viable reason could be that they were not ready for Vinland Saga as Yabuta said on Twitter, it was his sudden approach to MAPPA for greenlighting the project under MAPPA and they accepted his request. So, they ended up just being not on the Production Committee. All this stuff needs planning beforehand and not being on PC shows that. If things go well for them. They'll definitely invest in 3rd Season.Yeah, most likely. Though it's a bit confusing why MAPPA didn't invest in Vinland. |
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Shaghaf said: Pre_Yum said: Yabuta never said that mappa accepted the project in a hurry, or that it was a sudden decision.there's nothing confusing about it. The most viable reason could be that they were not ready for Vinland Saga as Yabuta said on Twitter, it was his sudden approach to MAPPA for greenlighting the project under MAPPA and they accepted his request. So, they ended up just being not on the Production Committee. All this stuff needs planning beforehand and not being on PC shows that. If things go well for them. They'll definitely invest in 3rd Season. no director would ever say that the project was accepted in a hurry. That's a bad business practice. He said that due to some internal problems, we were at a tough spot but everything's going smoothly now thanks to everyone's support. That tough situation points towards WIT dropping VS out of nowhere, he talked about this at Anime Expo on AOT Panel where he talked about behind the scenes. No one would ever directly call out a company but that's what he was saying. On top of that, he literally tweeted where he said that MAPPA accepted his request at the first place when they were looking for the new studio due to his passion. Also, they were willing for him to work as a Director on VS2 in any other studio as a MAPPA employee. All these things and the fact that VS is not a financial goldmine, they must've been either not ready because the planning requires years . I'm just adding 2+2. That's all. |
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raceraot said: Pre_Yum said: there's nothing confusing about it. The most viable reason could be that they were not ready for Vinland Saga as Yabuta said on Twitter, it was his sudden approach to MAPPA for greenlighting the project under MAPPA and they accepted his request. So, they ended up just being not on the Production Committee. All this stuff needs planning beforehand and not being on PC shows that. If things go well for them. They'll definitely invest in 3rd Season. Wait, source on this? I don't remember seeing this. I'm just speculating based on the all the tweets plus the sudden PC change and the things he said before. I'm no industry insider. |
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| And... why did that happen? WIT... I can see why but I.G leaving the PC out of nowhere when they didn't leave AOT because AOT is a profitable IP while VS is not. There is always more to it. |
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raceraot said: Pre_Yum said: I'm just speculating based on the all the tweets plus the sudden PC change and the things he said before. I'm no industry insider. Sudden? Minus WIT/Production IG being out of the studio, it's mostly the same committee/producers. Shuhei Yabuta also thanked Otsuka for taking up the project. Also, Manabu is the representative director of Vinland, of course he would thank him + he's a MAPPA employee and Otsuka is his boss. |
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raceraot said: Pre_Yum said: And... why did that happen? WIT... I can see why but I.G leaving the PC out of nowhere when they didn't leave AOT because AOT is a profitable IP while VS is not. There is always more to it. IG only did it for aot because it's insanely successful, Vinland wasn't. literally what I said. There are only two points that come out of it. 1. Either MAPPA knew that it wasn't profitable enough to invest in the project. We all know that's true. It's not a very profitable project. 2. They were very late to be added to the Production Committee. Because all the decisions are taken by PC and since they were not on it anyway and were very late, by that time all the decisions would've been done then Might as well just let this season be handled by Kodansha, Debtsu and Twin Engine. |
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Shaghaf said: Pre_Yum said: ok got it. I just want the entire anime adaptation of the manga. I love this series so much. I just want S2 to profit, so that S3 would be green lit. In a tweet Yabuta said that after finishing of S2 , s3 production decision should come fastly, otherwise it's very difficult to keep the entire team together for a longer time without a s3 confirmation.no director would ever say that the project was accepted in a hurry. That's a bad business practice. He said that due to some internal problems, we were at a tough spot but everything's going smoothly now thanks to everyone's support. That tough situation points towards WIT dropping VS out of nowhere, he talked about this at Anime Expo on AOT Panel where he talked about behind the scenes. No one would ever directly call out a company but that's what he was saying. On top of that, he literally tweeted where he said that MAPPA accepted his request at the first place when they were looking for the new studio due to his passion. Also, they were willing for him to work as a Director on VS2 in any other studio as a MAPPA employee. All these things and the fact that VS is not a financial goldmine, they must've been either not ready because the planning requires years . I'm just adding 2+2. That's all. yes... that's why he's counting on MAPPA to greenlit 3rd season ASAP after S2 because the team needs to keep working on this project otherwise it would split up and that would not be a good thing. But, since this time MAPPA knows that they have to give it a 3rd season, maybe they'll invest something in 3rd season. Who knows??? *fingers crossed* |
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Shaghaf said: Mappa can invest in a generic isekai but not VS? I don't know what to say. sorry to butt in but you know Japan and what they like. MAPPA is just capitalising on that. VS is not popular in JP and I can guarantee you in JP, their isekai will sell and will be viewed more than VS. They're just using those business mindsets to gain profits. LOL. |
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Eurycoma said: Pre_Yum said: sorry to butt in but you know Japan and what they like. MAPPA is just capitalising on that. VS is not popular in JP and I can guarantee you in JP, their isekai will sell and will be viewed more than VS. They're just using those business mindsets to gain profits. LOL. I mean chainsaw man also huge in streaming and tv rating last season behind spy x family. Merch also selling very well. I'm seeing Pochita plushy selling like hotcakes. If want to compare with Vinland Saga, Season 1 BD only sell 200 copies average. It also not high on streaming and tv rating. Merch also nothing to sell, no one to buy Thorffin doll or figurine. I think Mappa doing a good choice not investing in Vinland Saga season 2? we'll have to see how that goes. It is always a tough choice for studios to choose carefully in which project they should invest. We all know VS is not a profitable franchise but what if this season becomes that boost that this series always needed, then MAPPA would be regretting their decision of not investing in it LOL. I still think they're investing in it but for some reason, it's not very clear why they're not on the committee. Maybe later on they'll be, when the production in the background actually fully shifted to MAPPA. Who knows? |
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| The drawings were a bit janky at times, and the animation is much stiffer but I can live with that. Not like they need JJK level animation for a dialogue heavy season anyways so I don't really care. The production committee's call was pretty wise. |
raceraot said: CreepHazard said: The drawings were a bit janky at times, and the animation is much stiffer but I can live with that. Not like they need JJK level animation for a dialogue heavy season anyways so I don't really care. The production committee's call was pretty wise. Stiffer? If anything, it was far more motion wise. No watch WITs VS first ep. It feels far more polished imo, but I get what you mean there was much less crowd density and crowd movement in that. |
Rimusimp said: It was actually a downgrade in every aspect, except for the music and Yabuta's overall direction.Dude I didn’t even know that it was possible to top season 1. But this one had beautiful backgrounds, music, and the atmosphere was so perfect I felt like I could feel the water, the ice, the heat from the fire, the warm wind blowing through the farm. This was movie level. 10/10 first episode I enjoyed the episode a lot, but anyone claiming that it topped the first season's visual quality doesn't know what they're talking about. Especially the background art is an enormous downgrade compared to the first season. Superbly directed episode, a very worthwhile continuation of the story, but visually it's nowhere near close to the first season's crispness. |
Rimusimp said: well I mean it’s your personal opinion. I thought it looked waayyyy better. The animation isn’t as in your face fight wise as the first season but it overall looks way better You have no idea what you’re talking about. |
Badguy_oncel said: I'm sorry what? This is a horrible take lmao. There's no way ep 1 looked better than s2, they literally used janky cgi(thors fight scene) and direction was bit off( they rearranged chapters). There was no " enormous downgrade" whatsoever, both the animation and artstyle was good. The amazing background art you say was shown in ep5 or 6 of s1, not in ep 1. Latest ep was better in every aspect compared to s1 ep1. S1 had drop in quality from like ep 12 onwards with out of place cgi and less character details. Now I dont know whether s2 will maintain same quality as ep 1 but s2 ep1>>>> s1 ep1. There's no contest whatsoever You have no idea what you’re talking about. Good episode nonetheless. |
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Shaghaf said: Mappa can invest in a generic isekai but not VS? I don't know what to say. Well, that's how the trends have been like nowadays. Generic isekai animes sell better and are safer to invest in than some other projects. At the end of a day business decides how huge is the potential of hypothetical anime adaptation. One might not like isekai genre (I don't like it myself), but reality is realty. |
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