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Nov 17, 2022 12:45 PM
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[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




Nov 17, 2022 12:49 PM
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peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.
Nov 17, 2022 12:51 PM
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PhillyThaKid said:
peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.

He isn't hating on it, he is on our side.
He likes Ichigo's backstory and is just sharing on how unfair that certain criticism is.
Nov 17, 2022 12:52 PM
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PhillyThaKid said:
peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY



Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.



bro, reread my thread, im literally complimenting Kubo's writing and foreshadowing
Im just saying some say it is "random" or "out of nowhere" and i am explaining to those people how it is not
Nov 17, 2022 3:36 PM
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PhillyThaKid said:
peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.

this is why you have to read things fully 💀 I'm wondering if you've done the same to the actual bleach manga if you can't bother to finish this
Nov 17, 2022 6:28 PM
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peint said:
PhillyThaKid said:
No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.



bro, reread my thread, im literally complimenting Kubo's writing and foreshadowing
Im just saying some say it is "random" or "out of nowhere" and i am explaining to those people how it is not
Oh damn my bad I only skimmed through it... L on my behalf.
Nov 17, 2022 6:29 PM
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Zerzo said:
PhillyThaKid said:
No one will complain about his power explanation dude lol people actually want to know about that. Don't feel like reading the rest but just drop the series if you don't like it. How Kubo is pacing and adding this new content is fire... Ichigo backstory literally is nowhere near random😭.

this is why you have to read things fully 💀 I'm wondering if you've done the same to the actual bleach manga if you can't bother to finish this
Ayo chill on me I def didn't read I only skimmed through it lol.
Nov 17, 2022 8:30 PM
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peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




zoomers who nowadays watch anime only for SaKuGa or YouTuBe ConTeNt don't really understand the fuck is going on they just watch the most surface level stuff and be like yoooooooooooo this is crazyyyyyyyyy with actually zero patience and attention paying capabilities.
They'll definitely complain, not only them, the other "critics" too
Nov 17, 2022 11:23 PM
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peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."





I think that his powers are the only thing in the show where people can't complain about because they were all foreshadowed and explained.

Ichigo's Shinigami powers:
- Urahara stated that Ichigo always had his own Shinigami powers way back in the first arc and that Byakuya was too arrogant to see them
- It was later revealed that Isshin is a Shinigami

Ichigo's Hollow powers:
- The Hollow mask always appeared
- Urahara stated that Ichigo almost turned into a Hollow when awakening his Shinigami powers
- We learned later in the Momo/Renji/Kira flashback that that's not the way how people become Shinigami. It was only the case for Ichigo
- Shiro/White later revealed

Ichigo's Fullbring powers:
- We saw the awakening of Orihime's and Chad's Fullbring powers in the first 10 episodes. So it was there in the story and it was totally clear that it could be possible for Ichigo to awaken them.

Ichigo's Quincy powers:
- Ichigo's bedsheets have the Quincy cross. We see them in episode 1 and in also in later episodes. Yes I'm taking about episode 1 from 2004.
- Ichigo used the colored string ability which we only saw Ishida using in the first arc
- Ichigo using Blut Vene against Kenpachi
Nov 19, 2022 8:06 AM
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Decader said:
peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."





I think that his powers are the only thing in the show where people can't complain about because they were all foreshadowed and explained.

Ichigo's Shinigami powers:
- Urahara stated that Ichigo always had his own Shinigami powers way back in the first arc and that Byakuya was too arrogant to see them
- It was later revealed that Isshin is a Shinigami

Ichigo's Hollow powers:
- The Hollow mask always appeared
- Urahara stated that Ichigo almost turned into a Hollow when awakening his Shinigami powers
- We learned later in the Momo/Renji/Kira flashback that that's not the way how people become Shinigami. It was only the case for Ichigo
- Shiro/White later revealed

Ichigo's Fullbring powers:
- We saw the awakening of Orihime's and Chad's Fullbring powers in the first 10 episodes. So it was there in the story and it was totally clear that it could be possible for Ichigo to awaken them.

Ichigo's Quincy powers:
- Ichigo's bedsheets have the Quincy cross. We see them in episode 1 and in also in later episodes. Yes I'm taking about episode 1 from 2004.
- Ichigo used the colored string ability which we only saw Ishida using in the first arc
- Ichigo using Blut Vene against Kenpachi

truee
I was wondering how strong will he be when he mastered both his zanpactou and Quincy power
Nov 20, 2022 12:52 PM
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TorBaapAmi said:
peint said:
[SPOILER] DO NOT READ AHEAD IF ANIME-ONLY




Okay, I've heard a lot of slander on Bleach (specifically TYBW) in the past.
Some criticisms are warranted since Kubo was going through major health issues and was desperately trying to end the story in 15 years which made the story feel rushed in the second half of TYBW.
BUT, some I feel are unjustified criticisms. Specifically, how the reveal of Ichigo's roots as a Quincy was "out of nowhere." I feel like some will start complaining about this once it's revealed in the anime.
Ichigo's roots as a quincy was foreshadowed way back during Ichigo's first encounter with Zangetsu when Zangetsu was creating a block or land using the reishi in the environment.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ichigo's name means 1 (ichi) and 5 (go) which is 15. If you translate 15 into Spanish which is a super prevalent element in Bleach (ie arrancar, espada, hueco mundo, etc), it is "quince" which is one word away from quincy.
Ichigo's name as a foreshadow to his roots as a quincy was confirmed later during one of Kubo's Q&A as well.
I feel like a lot of Kubo's storytelling and especially his foreshadowing is very subtle and written in subtext so a lot of speed-readers or watchers miss it which often makes them be one of those bleach haters on the internet saying bleach has "poor foreshadowing" or "poor storytelling."




zoomers who nowadays watch anime only for SaKuGa or YouTuBe ConTeNt don't really understand the fuck is going on they just watch the most surface level stuff and be like yoooooooooooo this is crazyyyyyyyyy with actually zero patience and attention paying capabilities.
They'll definitely complain, not only them, the other "critics" too

And also there is some of them who "Bully" ichigo by saying "i knew it, this is the power of mc, right" or don't accepted the fact especially for some yt creator and always give conclusion that ichigo is still can 'easy defeated' by aizen, they ignore all the fact that ichigo is the one who beat both aizen and yhwach

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