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Nov 12, 2022 4:51 AM
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I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC
Nov 12, 2022 5:01 AM
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Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.
Nov 12, 2022 5:03 AM
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Well as A Monogatari fan You will Be satisfied because some crazy characters are coming Afterwards Well for The Hating araeagi well I don't like his Character but his character is complex too so wait for some time
Nov 12, 2022 5:04 AM
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very rare to Someone talking about this Masterpiece
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ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.


He did molest Hachikuji, am I right? Doesn't that qualify him as a child molester?
Nov 12, 2022 5:06 AM
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Ajay009 said:
Well as A Monogatari fan You will Be satisfied because some crazy characters are coming Afterwards Well for The Hating araeagi well I don't like his Character but his character is complex too so wait for some time


I think Araragi is a great main character but I don't like him as a person at all.
Nov 12, 2022 5:07 AM
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Sanjay63773 said:
Ajay009 said:
Well as A Monogatari fan You will Be satisfied because some crazy characters are coming Afterwards Well for The Hating araeagi well I don't like his Character but his character is complex too so wait for some time


I think Araragi is a great main character but I don't like him as a person at all.

Yeh I don't like his Justice
Nov 12, 2022 5:10 AM
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I may agree with your first point that Araragi vs Kanbaru is one of the best fights animated but Araragi is a great character and I can relate to him a lot in the futher seasons
Nov 12, 2022 5:14 AM
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Sanjay63773 said:
I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC

There would be an overpowered character
that extremely opposes Araragi later on, just not in the way Kanbaru did though.

Nov 12, 2022 5:17 AM

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Aruchemist said:
Sanjay63773 said:
I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC

There would be an overpowered character
that extremely opposes Araragi later on, just not in the way Kanbaru did though.


I will just watch the entire show just for that satisfying moment, thank you for info
Nov 12, 2022 5:29 AM

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Sanjay63773 said:
Aruchemist said:

There would be an overpowered character
that extremely opposes Araragi later on, just not in the way Kanbaru did though.


I will just watch the entire show just for that satisfying moment, thank you for info


I mean the character I've mentioned before doesn't exactly can be considered as satisfying if you just want to see Araragi suffer, but yes there would be a moment where you will find satisfying. I'll tell you what it is if you need motivation to continue Monogatari, don't click if you don't want spoiler.

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Sanjay63773 said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.


He did molest Hachikuji, am I right? Doesn't that qualify him as a child molester?

Hachikuji was never portrayed in an erotic way and Araragi never thought that she's sexy.
That's why I said it is like saying someone is zoophil, if they think a kitten is cute.
There is a reason why you could see Senjougahara's or Hanekawa's panties while you couldn't see Hachikuji's.
Nov 12, 2022 6:00 AM
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Araragi does it for comedic and sometimes legitimate plot purposes, plus he already has a girlfriend. Personally he’s my favorite character out of any medium for a bunch of reasons and he’s pretty inspiring morale wise as well.
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Sanjay63773 said:
I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC

If you have free time to hate on an imaginary character and go out of your way to make a rant post about it, then I'd say your life is very peaceful, which is a good thing, I guess?

(Tho it is pretty well animated tbh)
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notaweebprobably said:
Sanjay63773 said:
I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC

If you have free time to hate on an imaginary character and go out of your way to make a rant post about it, then I'd say your life is very peaceful, which is a good thing, I guess.

(Tho it is pretty well animated tbh)


You see, I do really like him for being amazing protagonist, but I absolutely hate him as a person. Most intimate moment in Bakemonogatari is the stargazing moment between Araragi and Senjoguhara is absolutely beautiful, I thought they are a perfect match made in heaven. Then, he does some bullshit things in Nisemonogatari which I don't really need to talk about, he absolutely destroyed those moments for me. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve girls like Senjoguhara Hitagi
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Sanjay63773 said:
notaweebprobably said:

If you have free time to hate on an imaginary character and go out of your way to make a rant post about it, then I'd say your life is very peaceful, which is a good thing, I guess.

(Tho it is pretty well animated tbh)


You see, I do really like him for being amazing protagonist, but I absolutely hate him as a person. Most intimate moment in Bakemonogatari is the stargazing moment between Araragi and Senjoguhara is absolutely beautiful, I thought they are a perfect match made in heaven. Then, I does some bullshit things, he absolutely destroyed those moments for me. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve girls like Senjoguhara Hitagi

W opinion
L execution

I am sure you could have phrased it better in the post. Anyways, Arararagi is indeed hatable in real life. No excuses for that.
Nov 12, 2022 6:42 AM
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ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€
Nov 12, 2022 7:08 AM

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WilfredJohnson said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€


He embodies some of the worst tropes in anime which will make any audience instantly hate him. By the way, I am Kaiki Deishuu fan
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WilfredJohnson said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€

Not really, never tried to have sex with any of them.
But okay, then you are a zoophil for the same reason.
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Sanjay63773 said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.


He did molest Hachikuji, am I right? Doesn't that qualify him as a child molester?

To not spoil anything, if she didn’t die she will be 19 also it was more or less then fighting each other at times and she does do it to him later. So like there’s a good argument it isn’t
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WilfredJohnson said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€

No and well no, closer thing he does with his sister is the toothbrush and the scar scene, Also the only time he did attempt or do it is in kizu but if u watched it you will know what happened, another thing every character is around his age mostly Yotsugi maybe the only exception kanaburu is I think a year younger than him so like no
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Sanjay63773 said:
WilfredJohnson said:

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€


He embodies some of the worst tropes in anime which will make any audience instantly hate him. By the way, I am Kaiki Deishuu fan

Any isn’t true a lot of people like him, for a lot of moments and how he’ll risk his life the thing is he had some tropes people really like konosuba is popular for similar reason he has things that make him stand out and certain people find funny also remember cultural differences
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_Yotsugi_ said:
WilfredJohnson said:

Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€

No and well no, closer thing he does with his sister is the toothbrush and the scar scene, Also the only time he did attempt or do it is in kizu but if u watched it you will know what happened, another thing every character is around his age mostly Yotsugi maybe the only exception kanaburu is I think a year younger than him so like no

Bro what ๐Ÿ’€ mf watched the show with his eyes closed
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ktg said:
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Dawg he kisses gropes and molests kids as well as his sister and attempts to have sex with her ๐Ÿ’€

Not really, never tried to have sex with any of them.
But okay, then you are a zoophil for the same reason.

He literally tries to fuck his sister until his other one catches them in the act
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ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found boys cute, you are an (f slur lol), which is stupid.
If Araragi would be a pedophile, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.


How is he a pedo though, Mayoi is technically a ghost, she ain't real, and Yotsugi is a doll, that should go on objectiphilia instead of pdffiles

about that shinobu bath scene, if i remember correctly, Kiss-shot did that so she makes Koyokoyo remember all of the events in kizu including her
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WilfredJohnson said:
_Yotsugi_ said:

No and well no, closer thing he does with his sister is the toothbrush and the scar scene, Also the only time he did attempt or do it is in kizu but if u watched it you will know what happened, another thing every character is around his age mostly Yotsugi maybe the only exception kanaburu is I think a year younger than him so like no

Bro what ๐Ÿ’€ mf watched the show with his eyes closed

Nah my memory just terrible there’s a difference
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WilfredJohnson said:
ktg said:

Not really, never tried to have sex with any of them.
But okay, then you are a zoophil for the same reason.

He literally tries to fuck his sister until his other one catches them in the act

Yeah. I went to rewatch nise to double check you right my bad
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Sanjay63773 said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.


He did molest Hachikuji, am I right? Doesn't that qualify him as a child molester?

um excuse me, "ghost child" molester lololol
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Sanjay63773 said:
I don't know if people will share the same opinion as me, Suruga vs Araragi is one of the best fight scenes ever animated in anime. In my opinion, Araragi is a great protagonist but as a person, he's not that amazing. He's a scumbag lolicon pervert with a sister complex, the way he was beaten by Suruga Kanbaru is indeed extremely satisfying. The Araragi's suffering during that moment is very good and entertaining for me.

Hopefully, in the future, I am waiting for an OP character in the future to trigger Araragi so badly, and then completely destroy him with their hands like the way Kanbaru destroyed and obliterated him. Anything related to it will be instant 10/10 moment.

My opinion won't be accepted by Monogatari fans and that's completely fine. I have immense hatred towards Araragi Koyomi as a person. For me, the Monogatari series is a great series.

Another big round of applause for both Kanbaru Suruga and Kagunei for obliterating the MC

theres a difference between pedophile lolicon and just teasing / making jokes (or sometimes it goes to bullying but its not intentional)

and honestly, im still learning that border myself

araragi as a character does it knowing theres a line to NOT pass which in every scene is shown. either its stopped by someone else, something, or in certain scenes, himself. yes hes a perv, yes hes a lolicon, but he stops himself from going too far

and everytime, he gets punished for it. like instant karma.

he even did it to the person he most respected, which is fucking unbelievable and youre right for hating him LOL
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Yeah I don’t like this side of mc, I don’t mind pervert side but idk what the author wants to convey by showing him lolicon and an incest so yeah the fight was very satisfying to watch. I wish it lasted longer

YOU MEAN THE INCEST AND LOLICON??????

jk jk lol
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ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Man you really wanna defend Araragi? I love Monogatari as well but Araragi being a lolicon is pretty much known facts. Their are just too many scenes in which Araragi tries to harrass some loli and fails. He even tried to harrass kid Hanekawa and that was an actual child. The series is self aware about his lolicon personality but saying that Araragi is not a lolicon is just wrong.
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King_KK said:
ktg said:
Your argument is: if you found a kitten cute, you are a zoophil, which is stupid.
If Araragi would be pedophil, he would have done something to Shinobu.
He is not a lolicon, nor a siscon.

Man you really wanna defend Araragi? I love Monogatari as well but Araragi being a lolicon is pretty much known facts. Their are just too many scenes in which Araragi tries to harrass some loli and fails. He even tried to harrass kid Hanekawa and that was an actual child. The series is self aware about his lolicon personality but saying that Araragi is not a lolicon is just wrong.

Then prove me wrong. The argument against Araragi is the same why you are a zoophil.
Araragi touched/harassed the little girls and kissed her/them.
This is actually true most of the animal keepers. They usually kiss their cats, dogs and play/touch/pet them.
And in both cases, they never fantasized about them in a sexually way.

I'm not defending Araragi and disproving a stupid argument. If you can present a correct argument, I'll will accept it.

(Btw, based on Araragi's monologue he is not interested in them sexually. What he does and how he interpret it is like playing. And based on the girls' responds, they interpreted it as playing too.)
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ktg said:
King_KK said:

Man you really wanna defend Araragi? I love Monogatari as well but Araragi being a lolicon is pretty much known facts. Their are just too many scenes in which Araragi tries to harrass some loli and fails. He even tried to harrass kid Hanekawa and that was an actual child. The series is self aware about his lolicon personality but saying that Araragi is not a lolicon is just wrong.

Then prove me wrong. The argument against Araragi is the same why you are a zoophil.
Araragi touched/harassed the little girls and kissed her/them.
This is actually true most of the animal keepers. They usually kiss their cats, dogs and play/touch/pet them.
And in both cases, they never fantasized about them in a sexually way.

I'm not defending Araragi and disproving a stupid argument. If you can present a correct argument, I'll will accept it.

(Btw, based on Araragi's monologue he is not interested in them sexually. What he does and how he interpret it is like playing. And based on the girls' responds, they interpreted it as playing too.)


Firstly animal lovers don't start licking the body of animals they find cute. Araragi literally shouts how he wants to lick Hachikuji. He also does lick her in their scene from Owarimonogatari S2 when he finds her in hell. He also says that he can't get her naked in that scene. Please explain how this is not blatant pedophile behaviour. He even tries to lick her eyeball. Have you ever seen an animal lover trying to lick an animals eyeball.



Animal lovers don't start crying tears of blood just because they couldn't touch an animal inappropriately like how Araragi did to kid Hanekawa. If Araragi was treating Hanekawa properly than their would have been no fear of him getting arrested by police now would there. Even the joke their was that Hanekawa sent Araragi to the police station because of his creepy behaviour.


Also if you think Araragi isn't a lolicon than please explain this scene to me. What does Araragi means when he says he could do anything to unconscious Hachikuji? What does he intend to do?


I rest my case. If you have some arguments than go ahead.
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See? This is why I hate arguing about shows that harder to understand, because I have to explain basic stuff.
So, simply, you missed the point that everything is told by Araragi. Everything you see, you hear in the show is how Araragi wants to tell you. That's why pointing out to things like tears of blood is pretty bad argument.

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Firstly animal lovers don't start licking the body of animals they find cute

Firstly, they does. Even you can find videos on the net how people for example lick back after they got licked by their pet.
Secondly, it doesn't really matter, because in this specific case licking and kissing are in the same category.

King_KK said:
Please explain how this is not blatant pedophile behaviour.

I did.
But in the same way, actually Araragi could have done other things with Nadeko, because Nadeko loved him. So if he was a pedophile, then he would have done that too. This is perfectly proves that you are wrong.

King_KK said:
Animal lovers don't start crying tears of blood

And this is why you need to understand that it's Araragi who tells you about everything. He is like every teenager exaggerated, or you truly believe that he and his sister could destroy part of the city?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDXh-eQGgec
This is actually a really important part and not understanding it means you are not really credible anymore. You simply missed one of the key point of the show.
But more importantly, if you believe Araragi is a credible source in this case, then we just need to quote him about being a pedophile, because if you believe he was in tears of blood, you also should believe when he said he is not a pedophile.

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they couldn't touch an animal inappropriately like how Araragi did to kid Hanekawa. If Araragi was treating Hanekawa properly than their would have been no fear of him getting arrested by police now would ther

This is just repeating an already refuted point.
If you kiss your kitten, noone will think that you are a zoophile, but if you kiss Hanekawa, they will.
That's what I was saying, your logic doesn't work as a logic, because based on this logic, many people would be zoophile.
The "inappropriate" behavior is actually appropriate towards animals. Either you are a zoophile or Araragi isn't a pedophil in this case.

King_KK said:

Also if you think Araragi isn't a lolicon than please explain this scene to me. What does Araragi means when he says he could do anything to unconscious Hachikuji? What does he intend to do?

Nothing happened. What exactly should I explain?
Dude, Hachikuji bites Araragi even when he just tries to pat her head. Hachikuji being asleep in this scene means that she won't cause any damage to him like she usually does.

So, you presented 3 arguments. One was already refuted in my earlier comments, one was proof that you didn't understand the show and one wasn't even an argument, because nothing happened.
Good job. You should do this as a job.
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I find Araragi to be funny. But Owarimonogatari strips that status off like a stone being sliced into two by a dull knife.

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