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Jul 17, 2022 4:12 PM
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I've been trying to understand what it is that makes this anime so polarising for the longest time now, and I have come to zero conclusion.

The closest I've watched to this was a Chinese SAO, and that was pretty boring because it has literally nothing of substance. Not far in tho atm.

I don't usually agree with community consensus on some things to do with anime, so if anyone would like to say anything coherent, that'd be cool.

The only reason I am not watching this now is that I have 750+ different shows I am watching simultaneously (real).
Jul 17, 2022 4:23 PM
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After 1st arc series goes downhill and continues this slippery slope until Alicization.
It's not Promised Neverland level of downgrade, but it's close.

It made very good first impression, had pretty visuals and that's how it became popular but eventually it established itself as the King of Trash.
Jul 17, 2022 4:31 PM
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Piromysl said:
After 1st arc series goes downhill and continues this slippery slope until Alicization.
It's not Promised Neverland level of downgrade, but it's close.

It made very good first impression, had pretty visuals and that's how it became popular but eventually it established itself as the King of Trash.

Alicization is literally the best part πŸ’€

But anyway original SAO is a very amateurish short story from 2001 and was never intended to be a full series and author even had to write new stuff so anime would make more sense ( So SAO actually predates most MMOs actually). Alicization is where stuff actually picked up and previous stuff was just a collection of short stories more or less. ( For comparison, everything before Alicization is just first 8 novels while Alicization alone is 10 novels long). But also anime is honestly not the best adaptation of the novels and one of the reasons why Kirito lacks deeper character development. Still a good watch even though is has some low lows, mainly S1 Part 2. Also for people who just can't let go of Aincrad there are new Progressive movies coming out and first one is really good despite being mostly anime original.
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Jul 17, 2022 4:41 PM
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The anime def isn’t boring (most of the time). It’s just like not written very well… god love it though, it’s the best concept in the worst anime.
Jul 17, 2022 4:43 PM
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peak series no cap
Jul 17, 2022 4:51 PM
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How I rate shows

enjoyable=good
boring=bad
Jul 17, 2022 4:52 PM
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It's not that bad nor that good.

Characters are bland. Pretty land. There is no thing such a good character here.
The plot is... not good either. Though you can enjoy it enough if you don't think too much.

But... the show itself is entertaining, the animation and the soundtrack use to be good... so it's overall an enjoyable anime.
Jul 17, 2022 4:57 PM
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What I like in SAO:
1) Good episode 1. Great setting.
2) Agil best character.

What I dislike:
1) Broken game MMORPG mechanics. The main reason why most of the gaming communities are cursing and swearing at SAO.
2) Gary-Stu Protagonist. He is not as big as Shiba Tatsuya but one of worst ones.
3) Harem is annoying. I don’t dislike harem at all. Some of the LNs I enjoyed are harem genre.

I will stick to LNs for isekai for now~
Jul 17, 2022 5:23 PM
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Tbh the first arc where they are actually in sao was pretty good and would prob make like my top 100 but everything after is really bad. Tho alicization I would say was a great upgrade and personally thought it was really good the war of underworld part tho I felt was a little underwhelming and wasn’t a huge fan.
Jul 17, 2022 5:38 PM
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imo sao was good....for the first episode, then it was aight after that, the yui shi was dumb, and the way kirito wins the battle against the creator of the game was dumb asf, afterwards show was shit, and boring especially after the ggo arc, I got so bored I ain't even watch alicization
Jul 17, 2022 5:41 PM
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Pannarikilppari said:
How I rate shows

enjoyable=good
boring=bad

Chad mindset bro.
Jul 17, 2022 6:04 PM
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it's super polarizing because it has really good visuals, great soundtrack, very good fight scenes (like actually crazy fights), and honestly the world settings are fairly interesting... plus I does have the occasional dark plot twist. And there are some heartfelt moments too.
However, Kirito is ridiculous op to the point it's not even funny, and the entire cast (minus some of the ones from Alicization and arguably Asuna) are dreadfully bland, hollow characters that never get any development and are just part of the harem or the background.
Oh, and the storyline is really bad, it rarely makes any sense, it's pretty lazy writing in my opinion
And there are random r@pe scenes in almost every season for no apparent reason

I personally think it's pretty good if you just turn off your brain and enjoy the visuals/music, but if your after a thoughtful story or characters with any depth, you're gonna be very disappointed.
Jul 17, 2022 6:51 PM
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NextUniverse said:
I've been trying to understand what it is that makes this anime so polarising for the longest time now, and I have come to zero conclusion.

The closest I've watched to this was a Chinese SAO, and that was pretty boring because it has literally nothing of substance. Not far in tho atm.

I don't usually agree with community consensus on some things to do with anime, so if anyone would like to say anything coherent, that'd be cool.

The only reason I am not watching this now is that I have 750+ different shows I am watching simultaneously (real).

the time skips in season 1 kinda suck otherwise it could be one of my favorites
Jul 17, 2022 7:01 PM
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I liked all of the series. The only thing I really couldn't enjoy were how rapey some of the antagonists were.
Jul 17, 2022 7:20 PM
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ShiningRed said:
Piromysl said:
After 1st arc series goes downhill and continues this slippery slope until Alicization.
It's not Promised Neverland level of downgrade, but it's close.

It made very good first impression, had pretty visuals and that's how it became popular but eventually it established itself as the King of Trash.

Alicization is literally the best part πŸ’€

But anyway original SAO is a very amateurish short story from 2001 and was never intended to be a full series and author even had to write new stuff so anime would make more sense ( So SAO actually predates most MMOs actually). Alicization is where stuff actually picked up and previous stuff was just a collection of short stories more or less. ( For comparison, everything before Alicization is just first 8 novels while Alicization alone is 10 novels long). But also anime is honestly not the best adaptation of the novels and one of the reasons why Kirito lacks deeper character development. Still a good watch even though is has some low lows, mainly S1 Part 2. Also for people who just can't let go of Aincrad there are new Progressive movies coming out and first one is really good despite being mostly anime original.

I agree Alicization is the best part but even that wasn’t that great. So many dumb plot holes and retarded decisions ruining the show as per usual. I recognized the good parts but the bad parts reminded me that I was still watching SAO at the end of the day. I think the part where Kirito went AFK was easily the peak of SAO because we got to see some nice character development in Alice and the rest of the townspeople. Then he woke up and everything went to shit. Everything that happened in the entire season before that all felt meaningless. And how is it possible for him to be so powerful after basically being dead and lying in a wheelchair for that long? He didn’t show any signs of weakness or struggle to readjust. I mean come on, the 2 fights against the main villains in the war of underworld 2nd season was just atrocious u literally had to turn off your brain and just enjoy the visuals in order to avoid a stroke.
Jul 17, 2022 7:22 PM
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OrientalAve said:
Tbh the first arc where they are actually in sao was pretty good and would prob make like my top 100 but everything after is really bad. Tho alicization I would say was a great upgrade and personally thought it was really good the war of underworld part tho I felt was a little underwhelming and wasn’t a huge fan.

The first arc was good and then everything just went to shit. They started skipping stuff randomly for no reason and we have 0 idea how he got as powerful as he did. Also the fairy game arc was absolutely atrocious
Jul 17, 2022 7:25 PM
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AntiVirgin said:
imo sao was good....for the first episode, then it was aight after that, the yui shi was dumb, and the way kirito wins the battle against the creator of the game was dumb asf, afterwards show was shit, and boring especially after the ggo arc, I got so bored I ain't even watch alicization

Kirito must be the number 1 hacker in the world after the Yui shit.
Jul 17, 2022 7:47 PM

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S1 p1 was good but too short ig, pt2 was straight doodoo

S2 was boring

S3 was easily the best

S4 pt1 was good as well but p2 felt rushed near the last few eps


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Jul 17, 2022 8:11 PM

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Just watched the entire thing, and I couldn’t figure out the “bad” everyone was talking about. It was consistently above average. The only time it was great was at the beginning of Alicization. (I’ve yet to watch Progressive because it didn’t air here)
Jul 17, 2022 8:15 PM
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Piromysl said:
After 1st arc series goes downhill and continues this slippery slope until Alicization.
It's not Promised Neverland level of downgrade, but it's close.

It made very good first impression, had pretty visuals and that's how it became popular but eventually it established itself as the King of Trash.

yep like one-piece. I mean come on season 2 was bad but movie and alicization made up for it. Yes not as good as Ds or 86 but still fairly good around 8 stars
Jul 17, 2022 8:16 PM
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Pannarikilppari said:
How I rate shows

enjoyable=good
boring=bad

pretty nice way, should be done like this.
Jul 17, 2022 8:17 PM
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It’s all about enjoyment, I don’t think the story is bad at all and people tend to forget what the anime/LN is about. It’s not about the actual game “Sword Art Online,” it’s about how the world and people are affected by fully submersible VRMMO’s that is all connected by the world seed.

If anybody says “Gary Stu” protagonist, they are just recycling the same dumb argument that can easily be refuted by actually watching the show.

The SAO game mechanics like how Kirito could hack and why he is so strong is so easy to explain and think about, just makes me realize nobody thinks when they watch the show.

I think the story is very fun, it doesn’t need to be “well” written, which the phrase is so subjective that they forget that enjoyment of the story trumps actual depth, which I think the show has. Displaying perfect examples of PTSD, trauma, and anxiety attack.

The “harem” aspect is a little harder to refute, but it’s technically not a harem because he is legit dating and engaged to one girl the entire series while only a few of the girls have actually liked Kirito.

But people love to hate on this series, so just let people love what they love and hate what they hate, even if they never use one brain cell when discussing the show.

What makes the show good especially is the dub, the animation, the music, and overall just how fun the show is. Plus Kirito and Asuna are one of the best representations of a good couple out there.

The scenes I can’t excuse are the sexual assault scenes, I hate that in any anime. I would say it makes more sense because basically thanks to the world seed anybody can become a god and have ultimate power, so it can show the depravity of people with power, but the author apologized and said sexual assault won’t be in anything else SAO related.
official_brownJul 17, 2022 8:22 PM
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Jul 17, 2022 8:59 PM
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The thing that makes people hate SAO so much it that’s it’s essentially what made the “OP isekai MC with a harem” so popular. It’s the start of the trend so people also go and hate on it to the point that it became “cool” to hate on SAO. SAO as a series is not as bad as people make it out to be. It’s by no means a good show but it’s not bad either, it’s just alright.
Jul 17, 2022 9:08 PM
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cueynuts said:
The thing that makes people hate SAO so much it that’s it’s essentially what made the “OP isekai MC with a harem” so popular. It’s the start of the trend so people also go and hate on it to the point that it became “cool” to hate on SAO. SAO as a series is not as bad as people make it out to be. It’s by no means a good show but it’s not bad either, it’s just alright.

yep , I feel the same way for aot, so everyone has their own opinions
Jul 17, 2022 9:10 PM

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It is a good show, 7.2/7.6 isn't a bad rating overall. And with all those criticisms it's a fact that almost everyone in the SAO wiki doesn't mind rating. It has its flaws, and it fixes its flaws in the later arcs, it also made a different series aka Progressive to fix the MOST CRITICISED PARTS of the show. And it is doing pretty well, that's the reason the Progressive series have got a good response since the beginning and it's been a decade but the rating didn't fluctuate much. As for the main series, the ratings decreased drastically, as for Alicization it's still fluctuating because of it's flaws & fixes.
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Jul 17, 2022 10:07 PM
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It’s had everything going for it in the first episode, but failed to deliver a somewhat thoughtful story in the end; still my guilty pleasure anime though.

I would say the main problem with Sao is Kirito himself, he’s bland, boring, and uninteresting in my opinion.
Jul 17, 2022 10:33 PM
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Not quite sure but i love the show even making it one of my favorite anime until the aliciation part which i am not a huge fan of.
Jul 17, 2022 10:37 PM
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Characters are dog shit save for maybe a couple, plot isn’t the greatest either. Had way too many time skips in the first arc, I feel they should’ve just focused the whole first season on Aincrad. While I don’t mind Suguha, the Alfheim arc was terrible πŸ’€πŸ’€ same thing can be said for GGO though I liked the setting and gun theme of the game. The Excalibur arc or whatever is completely forgettable. Now Mother’s Rosario? Personally what I think is the best arc of the whole series, I seriously wish we could’ve gotten a full 12 episodes of this arc alone, Yuuki best girl hands down fight me. Alicization is definitely the second best arc, I actually had a lot of fun watching this one, its no masterpiece but it was very entertaining. The War of the Underworld WAS amazing, was a contender for my new favourite arc… until they introduced Asuna into the world. Felt so damn corny to me πŸ’€πŸ’€

TL;DR shit characters, awesome concept. Also a LOT of up’s and down’s and Yuuki best girl
Jul 17, 2022 10:42 PM
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It incest πŸ’€ I’m sorry but I can’t with the ice scene 😭 that’s why I stopped after S1. I bet the rest of it is good too 😫
Jul 17, 2022 10:43 PM

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Was very promising at the beggining but it had terrible writing. Can't speak about s3 and onwards cause I haven't seen them. I heard they are better.
Jul 17, 2022 10:58 PM
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Since this was one of my first animes that caused me to fall for them, it still has a place in my heart even though it’s not that good.
Jul 18, 2022 2:25 AM
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honestly, the pacing was not very good and the characters were very uninteresting as a whole, but kirito and asuna especially were insufferable. the story in itself is a good concept (at least it was before the isekai genre became overdone af within recent years), but the execution of it just wasn't there for me. it wasn't terrible, there are definitely much worse anime out there, but I will never understand why this one gets as much hype as it does. to me it was at best very mediocre.
Jul 18, 2022 2:34 AM
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SAO, regardless of season, has a mediocre plot, annoying time skips, and less than ideal character development. In general that's why people trash on the show.

On the counter point, the soundtrack and animation is pretty good, and every few episodes there will be something that makes you want to yell SO FRIGGIN COOL!!!

I definitely recommend watching the show through the end at least once. You have to get through the few slow and cheesy parts to get to the awesome action.
Jul 18, 2022 4:58 AM

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Its bad.Why?cause of Everything,i would argue
Jul 18, 2022 5:22 AM
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NextUniverse said:
I've been trying to understand what it is that makes this anime so polarising for the longest time now, and I have come to zero conclusion.

The closest I've watched to this was a Chinese SAO, and that was pretty boring because it has literally nothing of substance. Not far in tho atm.

I don't usually agree with community consensus on some things to do with anime, so if anyone would like to say anything coherent, that'd be cool.

The only reason I am not watching this now is that I have 750+ different shows I am watching simultaneously (real).

SAO was good untill 2nd arch came out.

The idea of being trapped inside of a game was nice.

But downhill is real, in my opinion the one and only arch after the 1st that isn't a total failure is War of Underworld.
Jul 18, 2022 10:01 AM

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The show is not that bad, neither that good

What happened:
basically the show was somewhat innovative and pandered the anime/gamer demographic, the action was good, good animation, the opening was good, the soundtrack was good, lot of waifus, somewhat thrilling...a lot of people really loved the show in the beginning (really high MAL score for the time the show aired)

but after the show aired and more people watched the show(speaking about the first season), people started to notice all the negative point, lot of the conplaints are quite childish i must say, becouse lot of the weak points in the show are commonly present in anime, people was basically overreacting, still today in the anime community you see this kind of childish behaviour every time a new show go to the top, overanalyzing where you shouldn't etc.

Jul 18, 2022 12:57 PM
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The first and second seasons of the show were pretty mid as I remember. Alicization on the other hand had me on the edge of my seat with its character development and cool sword fight scenes
Jul 18, 2022 1:43 PM

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It has an interesting concept but poor execution. People liked it a lot back in the day until a youtuber made some video about it.




Jul 18, 2022 2:59 PM
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NextUniverse said:
I've been trying to understand what it is that makes this anime so polarising for the longest time now, and I have come to zero conclusion.

The closest I've watched to this was a Chinese SAO, and that was pretty boring because it has literally nothing of substance. Not far in tho atm.

I don't usually agree with community consensus on some things to do with anime, so if anyone would like to say anything coherent, that'd be cool.

The only reason I am not watching this now is that I have 750+ different shows I am watching simultaneously (real).

first season was good evey part but second season was really bad didn't enjoyed watching at all but alicization was really good, animation got better, anime really explained everything in detail, fights were good, military strategy, side characters, the idea of ai that can be just like a normal person it was pretty good. and i don't get it why people doesn't like alicization
Jul 18, 2022 3:16 PM
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This guy comparing SAO and SAO abridged sums it up well. https://youtu.be/46jzSn9SLlg

SAO was the first anime series I watched and I thought it was brilliant. But as I watched more anime I began to realise that, although entertaining, it wasn’t the masterpiece I originally thought it was.
Jul 19, 2022 1:04 AM
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Stacias said:
peak series no cap

bruh come on man. Really?
Jul 19, 2022 9:30 AM
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This is the poster child of 'cool concept, poor execution'
Jul 19, 2022 10:15 AM

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Yabai_desuOwO said:
It incest πŸ’€ I’m sorry but I can’t with the ice scene 😭 that’s why I stopped after S1. I bet the rest of it is good too 😫

hmm try watchin Yosuga no Sora. it's a good anime to watch if you hate incest πŸ™‚
Jul 20, 2022 3:11 AM
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Just as many users have already stated, it offered an interesting and innovative premise but very poor execution. I've only watched the first season and immediately dropped part 2 after 2 episodes. It's just not even worth sticking around at this point.

The story was downgraded as fuck in the later parts of the season and didn't have the charm of the first half. Kirito lacks depth and is one-dimensional, it's like his only defining character trait is being overpowered - but wait, it is. As a result the show lacks suspense in the battles since the protagonist is so powerful he can win any match... and defeating the game creator confirms it. That's a major flaw.

The series tried to be two completely different things at once - not only in its story elements (if we can even call it "story"), but in the game mechanics as well. We have a medieval fantasy MMO game first, a futuristic cyberpunk-like setting with guns as its defining characteristic the next.
There's an entire arc full of battles and exploration first, and immediately after it tries to be a cheesy romance show where even the characters involved are shallow. Not to mention it mainly consists of this later on and fails miserably at doing so. And don't get me started at the incredibly generic, badly-written main villain in the later parts and how Asuna's entire character was butchered... Now she's as flat as a cardboard.

Okay that's enough ranting for today...
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Jul 20, 2022 7:13 AM
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The first arc was really entertaining (while they were actually in SAO) but afterwards everything just seemed meaningless, and it would’ve been much more satisfying if they’d beat level 100 and that was it
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Jul 20, 2022 6:53 PM
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Unfortunately the first seasons execution was horrible, but the concept of Aincrad was so good that it left a bad taste in some peoples mouth for the rest of the show. In my opinion, if you can look past the mistake of a first season you’ll really enjoy the other seasons. To clarify; Aincrad arc is an amazing arc but is much too rushed and would’ve been a lot better if it played out fully (to floor 100) and for Alfheim it was such a horridly flawed arc that it leaves an angry camper knocking at season 2’s door. To be honest the only reason I hold a high rating on all the seasons is because I really enjoyed the character development, some of the characters, and the concept of every season. As many have said I will say again; SAO has the best concepts with poor execution.

P.S. If a video game ever came out for GGO I’d be the happiest man alive.

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