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Apr 19, 2022 3:46 PM
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Who's gonna win this fight if they fought at full power with all the equipments?

Not looking for biased answers. I pretty much think both characters kinda scale on the same level. I need an actual power scaling. No point in commenting if you've only watched one series and say this guy stomps. I still think Reinhard will win tho but probably gonna be a close one.
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Apr 19, 2022 4:01 PM
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I havent seen mushoku but id take a wilde guess its reinhard because of how op all his divine blessings are
Apr 19, 2022 4:18 PM
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Reinhard has to be illegal jajaja
Apr 19, 2022 5:03 PM
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I fucking love Orsted, but I have to give the W to Reinhard
Apr 19, 2022 5:11 PM
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Reinhard beats anyone that is not immortal as long as Od Laguna is not destroyed or is out of reach (does it have a reach?)
Apr 19, 2022 5:11 PM
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reinhard with full power as return by death but with 0 draw backs, the auther said that in a fight between reinhard and the sun, reinhard will win
Apr 19, 2022 5:38 PM
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Reinhard shit-stomps even if you remove the curses from Oersted. He wouldn't even need any Divine Blessings except the Sword Saint one.
Stick-Swinger Reid is a more fair match.




Apr 19, 2022 5:51 PM
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orested gonna win any day


Apr 19, 2022 7:19 PM
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Haven’t watched MT but iirc Reinhard is a bit immortal.
Apr 19, 2022 7:33 PM

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If you don't know, if you remove Orsted's curse and give him full power. Simply put, the world can be destroyed instantly by him. He also can manipulate gravity, power, even time. So he's basically broken asf.

Im literally copying my other comment in MT threads lol
Apr 19, 2022 7:54 PM

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KevinzMal said:
If you don't know, if you remove Orsted's curse and give him full power. Simply put, the world can be destroyed instantly by him. He also can manipulate gravity, power, even time. So he's basically broken asf.

Im literally copying my other comment in MT threads lol

Does he use magic for that?




Apr 19, 2022 7:58 PM

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RioFS said:
KevinzMal said:
If you don't know, if you remove Orsted's curse and give him full power. Simply put, the world can be destroyed instantly by him. He also can manipulate gravity, power, even time. So he's basically broken asf.

Im literally copying my other comment in MT threads lol

Does he use magic for that?


Yes, he can use any magic. Even the oldest one. The one that people never use anymore.
Apr 19, 2022 8:53 PM
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If yall talking bout the red haired dude, then yeah he solos any character
Apr 19, 2022 9:00 PM

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Anilegos said:
Who's gonna win this fight if they fought at full power with all the equipments?

reinhard is still a mortal.
Apr 20, 2022 1:02 AM
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Reinhard has infinate powers.
Apr 20, 2022 2:06 AM

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KevinzMal said:
RioFS said:

Does he use magic for that?


Yes, he can use any magic. Even the oldest one. The one that people never use anymore.

And I'm guessing he uses mana for that, right?

Also, why are reply notifications not working?




Apr 20, 2022 3:46 AM

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V1P3R0P said:
Anilegos said:
Who's gonna win this fight if they fought at full power with all the equipments?

reinhard is still a mortal.

canonically wrong
Apr 20, 2022 7:18 AM

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Without Orsted curse, Reinhard will lose.
With Orsted curse, Reinhard will lose.
Apr 20, 2022 8:16 AM

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RioFS said:
KevinzMal said:


Yes, he can use any magic. Even the oldest one. The one that people never use anymore.

And I'm guessing he uses mana for that, right?

Also, why are reply notifications not working?


Yep, he has a lot of mana capacity. As far as I know, Orsted is the strongest dragon god. (Maybe more than his father?) If so, then he should be able to destroy more than 6 worlds in the universe. But, I think Reinhard is one dangerous individual. In terms of the Human race, he already greatly exceeds the strength of all races.

Btw, about the reply notification. Might be a bug i think.
Apr 20, 2022 8:22 AM

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KevinzMal said:
RioFS said:

And I'm guessing he uses mana for that, right?

Also, why are reply notifications not working?


Yep, he has a lot of mana capacity. As far as I know, Orsted is the strongest dragon god. (Maybe more than his father?) If so, then he should be able to destroy more than 6 worlds in the universe. But, I think Reinhard is one dangerous individual. In terms of the Human race, he already greatly exceeds the strength of all races.

Btw, about the reply notification. Might be a bug i think.

So basically the fuel for magic, right? Yup, Oersted's screwed. He still will be able to use Sword skills, I believe but considering Reinhard scales even above Reid in terms of speed, Oersted would be completely outspeeded.
I still think Reid is a more fair battle though in his case, there is a chance he might figure out the loop.




Apr 20, 2022 8:28 AM
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Based on the comments here, maybe

Reinhard, he's OP, nothing much I could say

Or

Orsted, if he's not bound by the curse(looking at the comments one of em made)

Depends on the situation ig, but if it's a battle with their current status, I'd say Reinhard
Apr 20, 2022 8:47 AM

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RioFS said:
KevinzMal said:


Yep, he has a lot of mana capacity. As far as I know, Orsted is the strongest dragon god. (Maybe more than his father?) If so, then he should be able to destroy more than 6 worlds in the universe. But, I think Reinhard is one dangerous individual. In terms of the Human race, he already greatly exceeds the strength of all races.

Btw, about the reply notification. Might be a bug i think.

So basically the fuel for magic, right? Yup, Oersted's screwed. He still will be able to use Sword skills, I believe but considering Reinhard scales even above Reid in terms of speed, Oersted would be completely outspeeded.
I still think Reid is a more fair battle though in his case, there is a chance he might figure out the loop.


Actually, we still don't know his Power. (The Novel Doesn't Explain a Lot about his Power and Ability) It was a bit difficult to compare Orsted with Reinhard. Not to mention another Orsted from another Universe.

So far, the information about Orsted's power that we know:

- Gravity Manipulation (He can fly too)
- Time Travel (Bcz this power he became most knowledgeable person in the mushoku tensei world)
- Instant Heal
- Dragon Gate (Magic Absorber)
- Elemental Power (God Rank)
- Predicting the Future
- Hypnosis
- Disturb Magic
- And and many more that are not explained.

We never know how powerful he is. Even at the end of the novel, it still a mystery. Even though he fought, he was never serious or used his full strength. Because basically, it's not needed.

If we look at the information we got so far. Reinhard is the Winner. Even Nagatsuki Tappei had time to write a list of his power and abilities to show how broken he was.

btw, sorry for my broken english lol. i'm not good at writing english, especially explaining stuff.
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Old thread but I have no idea what Reinhard does but just to clarify about Orsted's powers.

SPOILERS FOR MUSHOKU TENSEI




When Hitogami means Orsted has the power to destroy the world, he didn't mean it literally. Orsted father, the "real" Dragon God was capable of killing every god, including Hitogami and when a god is killed the world is destroyed as well, so he meant that without his curses he'd be able to kill him, therefore destroying the world. If he scales to his dad, which all inclination seems to point to, he'd casually change the landscapes with a single attack, wiping out mountain ranges because much lesser beings could erase mountains with a single attack and Orsted basically has mastered all disciplines in Mushoku Tensei from Laplace who's been studying them for thousands of years. Extremely durable, being the most durable race in the verse and having something that is essentially Haki from One Piece being able to tank nukes and rock bullets that scale in relative destruction potency as nukes and heals them casually while fighting, can parry and deflect any projectile, including magic as long as he uses Water God Stance, has Godsword which is the ultimate weapon in the verse designed to kill gods and he can instantly heal any injury that he sustains as long as he's not killed. His strength is determined by how much mana he has when he fights at that time because his recovery rate is so slow.
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