Why didn't Grisha Saw his own Future

Hot_Green_Tea said:
It can only receive the memory that the future inheritors sent, in other words, it's just a plot device(not the good kind of plot device as well that integrates well with the story).

MugenDarou said:
My question is, why didn't Grisha do anything with the founding Titan, couldn't eren just make grisha do everything since he had the founding and royal blood contact

Hot_Green_Tea said:
It can only receive the memory that the future inheritors sent, in other words, it's just a plot device(not the good kind of plot device as well that integrates well with the story).

Hiro4ka11 said:


No grisha Can't use founding titan power.

-Frieda is already dead.
-Reiss family isn't titan/still in human form.
-MOST IMPORTANTLY
"the vow" the king sealed founding titan power. so nobody could use it. untill zeke figure it out to break it

remember what eren said. he won't made historia to be turn into mindless titan if he tell about dina.

guedess10 said:
He just can see what future inheritors of the attack titan send him. Eren sent him the memories he wanted to and not every single one of them. Eren knows his future because he saw it through Grisha’s memories when he kissed Historia’s hand, but not everything, only what his future self sent to Grisha. If Eren had seen the whole future at that time, a lot of interactions of season 4 part 1 wouldnt have made any sense and he would’ve known he cant use the founding titan power in the paths.

ktg said:

Yes, the last episode was interesting and enjoyable, but logically it was bad. It's not like I'm gonna give it a 1 because of it, but in some many cases people would already have started a million thread how bad it is or how illogical. Like they did for example in KnY case when they asked questions about a fight that was still ongoing.

ktg said:

I do have a problem with this.
What you say is obviously not true. I mean we saw Grisha were seeing Zeke and Eren before that "fight", for example in the basement. So somehow he can see stuff without Eren sending it.
My next problem is - apart from this - how they can see the future. It is possible if we say they can't change the future, but we know that Owl changed it or saw another future. He gave Grisha an advice. Something like start a family or history will repeat itself. But if the future can change, then you shouldn't be able to see the future, because if you see something, then you could change something in the past to avoid that future.
Or even if we say they can see the future and change it, you would see infinite amount of possible future, because, like I said above, they can see stuff without someone sending it. And with seeing that amount of possible outcome, you couldn't change anything, because you don't know what to do to avoid something.
Most likely that person would go crazy.

Yes, the last episode was interesting and enjoyable, but logically it was bad. It's not like I'm gonna give it a 1 because of it, but in some many cases people would already have started a million thread how bad it is or how illogical. Like they did for example in KnY case when they asked questions about a fight that was still ongoing.

light_straight said:

Just like death note is a notebook that kills someone when you write their name with their face in mind. So death note is a plot device. Wait, isn't it like almost everything in fiction a plot device?

Gween_Gween said:

Playing with casualty is always risky, doing it here was just a dumb flex to impress the inexperienced. Now, it is just one episode so it will be obviously explained further, I would just wait until you want to get spoiled, people are not questioning it because they have read the manga and already made up their mind about the mechanic. I think it is shooting at its own foot, but some people like it. Unnecessary and just for the hype and shock, as many things of this anime

guedess10 said:


There is a detail that you missed, Grisha is not actually seeing them. Grisha is actually seeing those situations from Erens POV. What that means is that Eren is sending Grisha those memories right away, everytime Grisha saw Zeke, Eren was in a position he could see both of them so Grisha could actually see Zeke through Erens POV and through memories of the future.

ktg said:

So everyone on the whole planet read the manga except me? Yeah, that's quite a logical answer.
I obviously wait for the ending, but when a show already contradicted itself, you can't expect much.

ktg said:

I do have a problem with this.
What you say is obviously not true. I mean we saw Grisha were seeing Zeke and Eren before that "fight", for example in the basement. So somehow he can see stuff without Eren sending it.
My next problem is - apart from this - how they can see the future. It is possible if we say they can't change the future, but we know that Owl changed it or saw another future. He gave Grisha an advice. Something like start a family or history will repeat itself. But if the future can change, then you shouldn't be able to see the future, because if you see something, then you could change something in the past to avoid that future.
Or even if we say they can see the future and change it, you would see infinite amount of possible future, because, like I said above, they can see stuff without someone sending it. And with seeing that amount of possible outcome, you couldn't change anything, because you don't know what to do to avoid something.
Most likely that person would go crazy.

Yes, the last episode was interesting and enjoyable, but logically it was bad. It's not like I'm gonna give it a 1 because of it, but in some many cases people would already have started a million thread how bad it is or how illogical. Like they did for example in KnY case when they asked questions about a fight that was still ongoing.

Gween_Gween said:

Of course not, but the intersection of people who get curious enough about the logic of the anime and the people who havent read the manga is probably smaller than usual. The main topic of this forum is the adaptation and the possibility of original ending, if the content is barely discussed other than doing stupid essays then you get an idea, right?

monsen198 said:

Use your brain or this: https://imgur.com/t3Lnjsm and the fact that you are a manga reader doesn't make your opinions valid, especially when those are some of the dumbest interpretations (and also funny) of the latest episode. Imagine calling the logic "bad" when you don't even understand it yourself

troilus_05s said:
The Attack Titan can only see the memories of its future inheritors. And all titans can see the memories of its past inheritors. How can Grisha see his own future?

The comment above me explains how Eren did it.

monsen198 said:


What's wrong with this tho? The AT CAN'T see the future. It's more like, Eren, with the 3 conditions (AT+FT+Royal blood) can send the memories to the AT predecessor. Kruger didn't know what would happen in the future, he only state that sentence as fact. "To make the world a better place, we need to love other people" or something like that. Anyone can say so.


Because Zeke didn't know that everything was set in stone. What did Eren change? He made his dad eat the FT, and spared Rod Reiss live. Eren changed nothing. All he does is follow history.


It's the same answer as the above

I'm sorry that I sounded aggressive and cocky in the last reply. I was in a hurry that time (and a little drunk) so I didn't shape my words nicely and I didn't have time to explain it thoroughly. Also, my English is bad so I am not very confident to explain everything. I suggest joining the r/shingekinokyojin. there are many great people there that are always willing to help you and have a good day.

troilus_05s said:
The Attack Titan can only see the memories of its future inheritors. And all titans can see the memories of its past inheritors. How can Grisha see his own future?

The comment above me explains how Eren did it.