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Jan 19, 2022 12:44 AM
#1
Its obviously not a secret that Hisoka is a pedo. Even if youre an hxhtard, the best you can give him is hes a creep and pervert. Multiple instances hes shown to be interested in kids, and is shown doing sexual gestures. So whats up with the hype behind the dude? I guess its like Ted Bundy where a group of people just support someone psycho. HXH prob cant even continue up if it wanted to because it has a character thats attracted to kids I GUESS A BETTER QUESTION IS: HOW DO PEOPLE JUSTIFY LIKING A PEDOPHILIA/PERVERT CHARACTER? WOULD THEY FEEL THE SAME ABOUT A RACIST ONE |
CickNipollaJan 19, 2022 10:24 AM
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Jan 19, 2022 1:06 AM
#4
Because he's entertaining to watch, he's sexy and his bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum. |
AlrivenJan 19, 2022 1:41 AM
Jan 19, 2022 1:18 AM
#5
"He JuSt WaNtS a gOod fiGhT" |
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Jan 19, 2022 1:26 AM
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Jan 19, 2022 1:33 AM
#7
He is a badass whose bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum so naturally he gets a pass. |
HelltakerJan 19, 2022 1:51 AM
❤ Incessant Rain ❤ “Can you let me have some fun this time?” |
Jan 19, 2022 1:39 AM
#8
Althaf_ said: Because he's entertaining to watch, he's sexy and his bungee gun possesses the properties of both rubber and gum. Thank you, exactly |
Jan 19, 2022 1:40 AM
#9
Because bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum. |
Jan 19, 2022 1:43 AM
#10
Is there a reason why it needs to be justified? He is a freaking villain and also bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum |
Jan 19, 2022 1:44 AM
#11
NoBoDY-5 said: this is ecactly itBecause bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum. |
Jan 19, 2022 1:47 AM
#12
He is attracted to power or kids or both is ambiguous. He intentionally acts weird. Whether he is a pedo or not i don't care. Thers nothing to justify. |
Jan 19, 2022 1:52 AM
#13
No one is defending his pedophelia we think it’s funny |
Jan 19, 2022 1:59 AM
#14
Fuck this stupid ass thread! |
Jan 19, 2022 2:22 AM
#15
just look at him; weird pinky clothing, his smirk, his nen ability, his acts.. i think these are a sign enough to show it. people may love him i can't say they shouldn't but you don't need cover it that he isn't. i hate him? no. bc he was a necessary character to show. sometimes i wanted him in scenes bc he was the only that goofy character. that's why he was necessary. |
Jan 19, 2022 2:45 AM
#16
People don’t justify it or condone his actions they just like him for other reasons. Some will be because they find him hot, some will be that they find him interesting and entertaining, it doesn’t mean they are justifying or condone his creepiness. The thing is about Ted Bundy is that HE IS REAL where as Hisoka is FICTIONAL. Liking Ted Bundy is fucked up but Hisoka is just a fictional character and nobody is actually harmed by him because he ain’t real. |
Jan 19, 2022 3:10 AM
#17
NickCipolla said: Its obviously not a secret that Hisoka is a pedo. Even if youre an hxhtard, the best you can give him is hes a creep and pervert. Multiple instances hes shown to be interested in kids, and is shown doing sexual gestures. So whats up with the hype behind the dude? I guess its like Ted Bundy where a group of people just support someone psycho. HXH prob cant even continue up if it wanted to because it has a character thats attracted to kids Why you getting so worked up over a fictional character |
Jan 19, 2022 3:16 AM
#18
its bcz bungee gum possesses the properties of both rubber and gum. |
Jan 19, 2022 3:24 AM
#19
Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches |
Jan 19, 2022 3:31 AM
#20
Firstly I personally don't know if he's really a pedo or it's just something the fans created around him. Like yeah...he's interested in Gon and Killua but I think he just wants to fight them in the future when they'll become stronger. He's obsessed like that with everyone who is strong. Secondly, even if he truly is a pedo I don't think people need to justify the fact that he is. Like he's a villain, he's twisted, he isn't supposed to be an example or the good guy... I personally like him because he's interesting, entertaining to watch and makes the anime fuunier. He's also hot =)) |
Jan 19, 2022 3:58 AM
#21
Because he is a fictional character that does not comply with our real world morals and he is an intriguing character. |
Jan 19, 2022 4:05 AM
#22
I dont think people justify his pedophilia, they just put it aside or enjoy him as a character who's a bad person + hes hot I saw once a person who said he's not (just) a pedophile, hes basicaly someone sexually atracted to power, but since hes into those 2 powerful kids he becomes a pedophile Ps: the person wasnt trying to pretend he isnt atracted to this kids, which is a fact and means pedophilia, just tried to clarify what exactly togashi was doing and how (especially that weird sign he did with his hand in the "when i catch your brother.." scene with illumi) |
Jan 19, 2022 4:16 AM
#23
Simple answer: He's chaotic fun Plus, we villain lover, have weird expectations on how moral a character should be to be appreciated. |
Jan 19, 2022 4:20 AM
#24
People don't? He's a villain Y'know Not the protagonist, he's not meant to be a good person lol |
Jan 19, 2022 5:29 AM
#25
BloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) |
Jan 19, 2022 5:33 AM
#26
Most people don't justify his pedophilia, people like him for other things, also many people (again not the majority) never left their edgy phase and/or actually approve his actions... You can be critical of a character without wanting them to be cancelled...you can always stop watching HXH, but don't ask for others to be deprived of the experience of watching it |
Jan 19, 2022 5:36 AM
#27
No one justifies his behaviour. People just like to joke around. |
Jan 19, 2022 5:38 AM
#28
JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author |
Jan 19, 2022 5:39 AM
#29
Who's even defending that shit? |
Jan 19, 2022 5:49 AM
#30
BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening |
Jan 19, 2022 5:56 AM
#31
Nah, nobody is really justifying per se...they have simply come to terms that bungee gum possesses the properties of rubber and gum. |
Jan 19, 2022 6:00 AM
#32
They're probably able to differentiate whats happening on screen, in a fictional world and what it's like for the real world, for a start. Furthermore I think they just enjoy the Masterpiece of a Series, that is HxH and don't really give a fk about who get's offended when, by what scene , on the planet....at all^^ I think that's the heart of it.... What do you want to see in a Show? You only want christian, pure hearted, friendly people on screen at any given Moment? No fighting? No problems, noones flawed, the world is perfect and no conflict. Is that the kind of Anime you're looking for?^^ |
Merve2LoveJan 19, 2022 6:07 AM
Jan 19, 2022 6:08 AM
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Jan 19, 2022 6:20 AM
#34
You must've used TikTok too much. Dont worry buddy it's just a phase, you will not care about it anymore in the future |
Jan 19, 2022 6:38 AM
#35
JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime |
Jan 19, 2022 6:43 AM
#36
Yes, it's exactly like the Ted Bundy cult of personality. No significant difference between the two either. Both are real life serial killers that actively hurt many real people in the real world. Seriously, the MAL brain rot is reaching new heights every day. Keep up the good work. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Jan 19, 2022 7:06 AM
#37
BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid |
Jan 19, 2022 7:26 AM
#38
JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid It's not pedo propaganda, he just happens to be a pedo character. Comparing it with your nazi example: JoJo happens to have a nazi character, but that doesnt mean in the slightest JoJo is nazi. |
Jan 19, 2022 7:34 AM
#39
JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk |
Jan 19, 2022 7:37 AM
#40
PurgatrioFan666 said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid It's not pedo propaganda, he just happens to be a pedo character. Comparing it with your nazi example: JoJo happens to have a nazi character, but that doesnt mean in the slightest JoJo is nazi. You're absolutely right but that's not the idea I was trying to pass, I was forced to use extreme examples just to prove the point that saying "it's just drawings" it's stupid since it justifies actual propaganda, in the extreme cases I presented. I do agree with you that HXH wasn't promoting pedophilia or that it shouldn't be cancelled (as the OP alluded to)... it's just that the OP of this specific thread is spreading an extremely dumb take |
Jan 19, 2022 7:52 AM
#42
BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... |
Jan 19, 2022 7:58 AM
#43
Multiple things He's a villain, its expected for him to do/be bad things. And he's not a pedo, he isn't attracted to kids he's attracted to a good fight to a fanatical degree that thinking of one arouses him. It just so happens that two of the people with the highest potential to give him the fight he desires are children, and even then not yet, he's waiting for them to become stronger (and therefore older). He was doing the same thing with the leader of the phantom troop who wasnt a child, which should tell you He does not care about age or geder or any physicality, he only cares about fighting power and capability. Which he sees a lot of in Gon and Killua, rightfully so, they are extremely strong individuals. |
Jan 19, 2022 8:06 AM
#44
JustN0tMe said: hisoka's actions are pedophelic but it doesn't matter bcz its all fictional, how does that not make sense to you?BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... Just bcz it includes kids doesn't mean its meant for kids, i just told you 1 theme that is definitely not for kids that the show explores, almost all of The Promised neverland's cast has characters that don't pass the age of 12 yet it is definitly not aimed as people of that age, how is that not clear for you? I literally said that im not talking about kids being affected by cartoon, im talking about 16 and older, how many times am i gonna have to repeat that? 16 OR OLDER 16 OR OLDEEEER 16 AND FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING OLDER NOT YOUNGER and please watch the video that i linked so it can get through your head that HxH IS NOT AIMED AT CHILDREN |
Jan 19, 2022 8:32 AM
#45
NickCipolla said: So whats up with the hype behind the dude? I guess its like Ted Bundy where a group of people just support someone psycho. HXH prob cant even continue up if it wanted to because it has a character thats attracted to kids Again what i said about, HE'S LITTERALLY A VILLAIN, the shows not gonna get canceled for that. And also are you new to anime? There are entire shows built around characters who are attracted to children and they are some of the most successfull, just look at Oreimo or Eromanga sensei. Also look at Shield Hero where, basically ALL of the waifu/MC Romantic Interest characters are children, the exception being raphtalia but only because racoon people age fast. If you think a show "can't even continue" because of that you must be extremely new here. |
Jan 19, 2022 8:38 AM
#47
BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: hisoka's actions are pedophelic but it doesn't matter bcz its all fictional, how does that not make sense to you?BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... Just bcz it includes kids doesn't mean its meant for kids, i just told you 1 theme that is definitely not for kids that the show explores, almost all of The Promised neverland's cast has characters that don't pass the age of 12 yet it is definitly not aimed as people of that age, how is that not clear for you? I literally said that im not talking about kids being affected by cartoon, im talking about 16 and older, how many times am i gonna have to repeat that? 16 OR OLDER 16 OR OLDEEEER 16 AND FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING OLDER NOT YOUNGER and please watch the video that i linked so it can get through your head that HxH IS NOT AIMED AT CHILDREN BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: hisoka's actions are pedophelic but it doesn't matter bcz its all fictional, how does that not make sense to you?BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... Just bcz it includes kids doesn't mean its meant for kids, i just told you 1 theme that is definitely not for kids that the show explores, almost all of The Promised neverland's cast has characters that don't pass the age of 12 yet it is definitly not aimed as people of that age, how is that not clear for you? I literally said that im not talking about kids being affected by cartoon, im talking about 16 and older, how many times am i gonna have to repeat that? 16 OR OLDER 16 OR OLDEEEER 16 AND FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING OLDER NOT YOUNGER and please watch the video that i linked so it can get through your head that HxH IS NOT AIMED AT CHILDREN I didn't say that it's targeting kids because it includes kids...I said that shounen anime targets pre-teens(which are kids) and up...the age range you're talking is actually seinen. I mean this website classifies it as such... there's no point arguing over it. I had to say stupid things for us to get to the starting(normal) point 🙄 Congratulations! You've reached the baseline, discussion is possible. Now that we established that you understand that his actions are pedophilic and that drawings and animation can affect people watching(in different ways-not just HXH), do you understand now why I said that your take-it doesn't matter, it's a drawing- is stupid? Ok...the discussion. No, HXH shouldn't be cancelled, since it doesn't support pedophilia, just represents it through Hisoka, who's called sick for it... The vast majority of people like him for other reasons that aren't related to pedophilia, some because they still haven't left their edgy phase and the extreme minority due to his pedophilia |
Jan 19, 2022 8:41 AM
#48
lol we dont justify it we just choose to ignore it 😭 |
Jan 19, 2022 8:54 AM
#49
I mean it’s not like people want him to succeed as a pedo. Don’t most people just like him as a fucked up bad guy? |
Jan 19, 2022 9:32 AM
#50
JustN0tMe said: a show's audience isn't classified by the tags on some anime website like this one, nor is it classified by the genre of it, its classified by how complex the writing is, how much gore and violence it has and the themes in it, Invincible is a super hero show, so it should be for young teens right? Fuck no, that shit has more blood than a fucking slasher horror movie, so did we establish now that genre does not directly translates into age demographic? I hope soBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... Just bcz it includes kids doesn't mean its meant for kids, i just told you 1 theme that is definitely not for kids that the show explores, almost all of The Promised neverland's cast has characters that don't pass the age of 12 yet it is definitly not aimed as people of that age, how is that not clear for you? I literally said that im not talking about kids being affected by cartoon, im talking about 16 and older, how many times am i gonna have to repeat that? 16 OR OLDER 16 OR OLDEEEER 16 AND FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING OLDER NOT YOUNGER and please watch the video that i linked so it can get through your head that HxH IS NOT AIMED AT CHILDREN BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: first of all you just lied about me, i never said that hisoka's actions aren't pedophilia, i said that it doesn't matter, no matter how much vile shit happens in a fictional story it doesn't matter because its just fiction, i don't think saying so is stupid or dumbBloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: youre looking too deep into it...BloodyTaer said: JustN0tMe said: a character being a 'pedo' isn't pushing any ideology, theyre just fucking drawings, you can't push ideology through themBloodyTaer said: Because hes a fucking drawing, doesn't matter if hes a pedo, rapist, sex offender or a child molester Grow up and stop looking at drawings like theyre real poeople who should get consequences for their actions, also get some bitches This is a fucking dumb thought process...if people decided to spread the nazi or communist ideology in anime form it would be ok then, it's just drawings. You can be critical of a character's actions(because they're supposed to represent some part of humans or human experience), while supporting their existence(which you and the OP can't figure out) Except if someone is a fucking idiot who translates these drawings into the real world and compare them to the real world, yes ideologies can be pushed to these people through drawings, but whos fault is that? Their own and not the author I wasn't talking about pedophilia when I said spreading an ideology 🤦🏾 Change pedophilia with actual ideologies and it will make much more sense...yes, you can push ideologies through anime/cartoons, why you think religion does it? Why you think conservatives complain when democrats do it? The same applies to movies... An idiot isn't the one seeing the parallels, the idiot is the one blind to them, specially when the creator's intent is clear. Sometimes the author isn't the one to blame for ideology or propaganda being spread, but just because it's not their fault doesn't mean it isn't happening Its a fucking cartoon, youre not going to believe in an ideology because you saw it in some anime, no one changed their religion or their politics beliefs because of drawings And the topic is about hisoka being a podo or whatever, not political or religous ideologies being in anime It didn't matter what action was displayed, since it's a drawing...I just followed the logical conclusion, that's the sole reason I replied to you...and how can you address the main topic when you don't consider Hisoka's actions pedophilia, since it's just a drawing. I didn't went too deep, your comment was so dumb that I had to push it to normal standards...when addressing Hisoka's pedophilic displays you need to start by accepting that those actions are happening, even in manga form and then address why it's good/bad, why people like him and if it should be cancelled: My answer is it's bad, but people like him for other reasons...you can create awful characters and criticize them without cancelling... You saying that it doesn't affect people doesn't make it true, specially when you have a bunch of evidence of the opposite, also those that fall victim of propaganda are mostly kids or teens, not adults...HXH target audience is exactly that demographic, so again you're being stupid And what evidence of actions in cartoons affecting people are you talking about? If youre talking about kids then youre entirely off topic here, im talking about 16 year olds and above im not talking about younger than 16, and HxH target audience is 16 or older, what show targets young teens and children and talks about how humanity is always going to survive because we are the most cruel species? Its a show targeted at older teens and adults You can look at this video so you can understand that HxH isn't targeted towards children https://youtu.be/o2fCYB9vSZk I didn't lie, I used your logic: How can you claim Hisoka's actions are pedophilic when it's just a drawing...see how stupid it is? As far as I know, HXH is a shounen...it includes kids(pre-teens) and teens What evidence that I have? Well there's multiple people in forums or making YT videos criticizing or telling how cartoons like JW's Caleb and Sophia (a specific episode for you could be Lesson 2: Obey Jehovah). There's also movies that introduce kids to religions like Christianity (example: The Prince of Egypt) These are forms of propaganda, one acceptable, the other isn't... Just bcz it includes kids doesn't mean its meant for kids, i just told you 1 theme that is definitely not for kids that the show explores, almost all of The Promised neverland's cast has characters that don't pass the age of 12 yet it is definitly not aimed as people of that age, how is that not clear for you? I literally said that im not talking about kids being affected by cartoon, im talking about 16 and older, how many times am i gonna have to repeat that? 16 OR OLDER 16 OR OLDEEEER 16 AND FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING OLDER NOT YOUNGER and please watch the video that i linked so it can get through your head that HxH IS NOT AIMED AT CHILDREN I didn't say that it's targeting kids because it includes kids...I said that shounen anime targets pre-teens(which are kids) and up...the age range you're talking is actually seinen. I mean this website classifies it as such... there's no point arguing over it. I had to say stupid things for us to get to the starting(normal) point 🙄 Congratulations! You've reached the baseline, discussion is possible. Now that we established that you understand that his actions are pedophilic and that drawings and animation can affect people watching(in different ways-not just HXH), do you understand now why I said that your take-it doesn't matter, it's a drawing- is stupid? Ok...the discussion. No, HXH shouldn't be cancelled, since it doesn't support pedophilia, just represents it through Hisoka, who's called sick for it... The vast majority of people like him for other reasons that aren't related to pedophilia, some because they still haven't left their edgy phase and the extreme minority due to his pedophilia I understand that drawings can affect people that are young for example younger than 16 or 14 like i have been saying for fucking years now, and HxH isn't directed at those young people that are younger than 16, therefore hisoka's pedophelic actions don't matter because it doesn't affect the target audience of HxH So shows that are targeted at audiences that are 14-16 years old or older can have whatever the fuck they want in that show, it can have rape, pedophilia, sexual harassement, domestic abuse, it doesn't matter because its targeted audience isn't going to be affected by it, eg. HxH, goblin slayer or any hentai |
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