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Jan 7, 2022 5:12 AM
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In ep1 the scream okabe made was the same with the ep24, I'm confused because in ep1 okabe didn't get the metal upa but in ep24 he does, Is it voice act error or do I miss something? I think in ep1 the scream shouldbe the scream from ep23. Can someone explain it please :<, this bugs me for an entire week, it doesn't get out of my mind. Please someone :<
Jan 7, 2022 5:22 AM
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RitzueX said:
In ep1 the scream okabe made was the same with the ep24, I'm confused because in ep1 okabe didn't get the metal upa but in ep24 he does, Is it voice act error or do I miss something? I think in ep1 the scream shouldbe the scream from ep23. Can someone explain it please :<, this bugs me for an entire week, it doesn't get out of my mind. Please someone :<
Episode 1 and 24 are basically a perfect loop episode 1 goes hand in hand with 24 before and after time travel. A more simple or complex explanation depending on how you think is Episode 1 happened after meeting red head and episode 24 is episode 1
Being human is making mistakes.
Jan 7, 2022 5:56 AM
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Ikarus101 said:
RitzueX said:
In ep1 the scream okabe made was the same with the ep24, I'm confused because in ep1 okabe didn't get the metal upa but in ep24 he does, Is it voice act error or do I miss something? I think in ep1 the scream shouldbe the scream from ep23. Can someone explain it please :<, this bugs me for an entire week, it doesn't get out of my mind. Please someone :<
Episode 1 and 24 are basically a perfect loop episode 1 goes hand in hand with 24 before and after time travel. A more simple or complex explanation depending on how you think is Episode 1 happened after meeting red head and episode 24 is episode 1
yeah, but what's bothering me is the metal upa, if the metal upa in ep1 was taken by mayuri then red head's father would succeed on inventing a time machine and that would make a ww3, meanwhile in ep24 was different okabe succeed on getting the metal upa and that makes it stop red head's father from inveting time machine. What I'm pointing is it's different, I mean the future okabe in ep1 have failed because he didn't get the metal upa, meanwhile in ep24 he succeed, therefore the scream from ep23 should be the one used on ep1. Sorry, if my explaination is confusing. I tried my best to explain it. Sorry, I just can't say what I'm thinking -_-||
Jan 7, 2022 6:00 AM
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There are two versions of the scream:
-Okabe's scream when Kurisu died in his arms
-Okabe's scream when he forcefully pry open his wound for more blood

So either ways, the scream occured in both ep 23 and 24 but when you are in ep 1, you wouldn't knw which ep does the scream actually come from
Jan 7, 2022 6:30 AM
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RitzueX said:
Ikarus101 said:
Episode 1 and 24 are basically a perfect loop episode 1 goes hand in hand with 24 before and after time travel. A more simple or complex explanation depending on how you think is Episode 1 happened after meeting red head and episode 24 is episode 1
yeah, but what's bothering me is the metal upa, if the metal upa in ep1 was taken by mayuri then red head's father would succeed on inventing a time machine and that would make a ww3, meanwhile in ep24 was different okabe succeed on getting the metal upa and that makes it stop red head's father from inveting time machine. What I'm pointing is it's different, I mean the future okabe in ep1 have failed because he didn't get the metal upa, meanwhile in ep24 he succeed, therefore the scream from ep23 should be the one used on ep1. Sorry, if my explaination is confusing. I tried my best to explain it. Sorry, I just can't say what I'm thinking -_-||
didn’t in episode 23 the meta upa get given away? I don’t remember the small details well
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Jan 7, 2022 6:37 AM
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Cas_Cade said:
There are two versions of the scream:
-Okabe's scream when Kurisu died in his arms
-Okabe's scream when he forcefully pry open his wound for more blood

So either ways, the scream occured in both ep 23 and 24 but when you are in ep 1, you wouldn't knw which ep does the scream actually come from
rewatch ep1/ep23/ep24 and listen to the scream
Jan 7, 2022 6:40 AM
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Ikarus101 said:
RitzueX said:
yeah, but what's bothering me is the metal upa, if the metal upa in ep1 was taken by mayuri then red head's father would succeed on inventing a time machine and that would make a ww3, meanwhile in ep24 was different okabe succeed on getting the metal upa and that makes it stop red head's father from inveting time machine. What I'm pointing is it's different, I mean the future okabe in ep1 have failed because he didn't get the metal upa, meanwhile in ep24 he succeed, therefore the scream from ep23 should be the one used on ep1. Sorry, if my explaination is confusing. I tried my best to explain it. Sorry, I just can't say what I'm thinking -_-||
didn’t in episode 23 the meta upa get given away? I don’t remember the small details well
kurisutina got the meta upa and she gave it to her father and that's why the papers survived, because of the meta upa the papers stolen from kurisutina survived
Jan 7, 2022 7:17 AM
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RitzueX said:
Ikarus101 said:
Episode 1 and 24 are basically a perfect loop episode 1 goes hand in hand with 24 before and after time travel. A more simple or complex explanation depending on how you think is Episode 1 happened after meeting red head and episode 24 is episode 1
yeah, but what's bothering me is the metal upa, if the metal upa in ep1 was taken by mayuri then red head's father would succeed on inventing a time machine and that would make a ww3, meanwhile in ep24 was different okabe succeed on getting the metal upa and that makes it stop red head's father from inveting time machine. What I'm pointing is it's different, I mean the future okabe in ep1 have failed because he didn't get the metal upa, meanwhile in ep24 he succeed, therefore the scream from ep23 should be the one used on ep1. Sorry, if my explaination is confusing. I tried my best to explain it. Sorry, I just can't say what I'm thinking -_-||


You are right. The scream from Episode 1 is the one from Episode 23. The timelines of those two match. Episode 24 is different from Episode 1 because that is a different timeline. The main base is the same, but Episode 1 fits with Episode 23, while Episode 24 is a version of Episode 1 from the other timeline.

Episode 23/Episode 1 lead into Episode 2.

Episode 24/Alt. Ep. 1 lead to some other story.
Jan 7, 2022 7:22 AM
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VarunBalodi330 said:
RitzueX said:
yeah, but what's bothering me is the metal upa, if the metal upa in ep1 was taken by mayuri then red head's father would succeed on inventing a time machine and that would make a ww3, meanwhile in ep24 was different okabe succeed on getting the metal upa and that makes it stop red head's father from inveting time machine. What I'm pointing is it's different, I mean the future okabe in ep1 have failed because he didn't get the metal upa, meanwhile in ep24 he succeed, therefore the scream from ep23 should be the one used on ep1. Sorry, if my explaination is confusing. I tried my best to explain it. Sorry, I just can't say what I'm thinking -_-||


You are right. The scream from Episode 1 is the one from Episode 23. The timelines of those two match. Episode 24 is different from Episode 1 because that is a different timeline. The main base is the same, but Episode 1 fits with Episode 23, while Episode 24 is a version of Episode 1 from the other timeline.

Episode 23/Episode 1 lead into Episode 2.

Episode 24/Alt. Ep. 1 lead to some other story.
OHHHH, okay I get some of it thank youu :>
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RitzueX said:
In ep1 the scream okabe made was the same with the ep24, I'm confused because in ep1 okabe didn't get the metal upa but in ep24 he does, Is it voice act error or do I miss something? I think in ep1 the scream shouldbe the scream from ep23. Can someone explain it please :<, this bugs me for an entire week, it doesn't get out of my mind. Please someone :<

Are you saying the screams sound different in episode 1 & 23 ?
Let me first start by saying that Episode 1 Okabe who screams is not the same Okabe who screams in both episode 23 & 24.
The one who screams in episode 1 was 0 Okabe who sent that video mail about Operation Skuld. He also saw Kurisu die in his hands.
The S;G Okabe we were following screams in episode 23 once when he fails to save Kurisu & again in episode 24 when he opened up his wound, each time an Okabe who came to attend the lecture hears this & goes to investigate, thus not changing the established events.
If the screams sound a bit different, it's not a big deal.
Dunno what you're talking about Metal Upa
Jan 7, 2022 11:16 AM
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Okabe only finds out that he should remove the metal upa after his first attempt in episode 23, so the scream is episode 23 Okabe’s after he kills Kurisu.
Jan 7, 2022 4:52 PM
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RitzueX said:
In ep1 the scream okabe made was the same with the ep24, I'm confused because in ep1 okabe didn't get the metal upa but in ep24 he does, Is it voice act error or do I miss something? I think in ep1 the scream shouldbe the scream from ep23. Can someone explain it please :<, this bugs me for an entire week, it doesn't get out of my mind. Please someone :<

It's pretty simple. Ep23 and 24 had the same world line but 24 is where Okabe did the plan successfully. Ep1 is in the "same" world line as Ep23 so Okabe didn't take the metal upa in this world line and he took the metal upa in Ep24 since he just found out it was the cause of ww3 after the world line in ep1/23
Jan 7, 2022 6:50 PM

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There are soo much factually wrong statements in this thread lmao. I will sleep and try to correct everything wgen I get up in the mornig.

PS: I read the VNs
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Jan 7, 2022 7:17 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
There are soo much factually wrong statements in this thread lmao. I will sleep and try to correct everything wgen I get up in the mornig.

PS: I read the VNs
okay, please correct it :>
Jan 8, 2022 2:21 AM
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Jan 8, 2022 3:29 AM

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Well, in the end I only saw one correct answer in the thread. This one:

Celestial_Sigil said:

Are you saying the screams sound different in episode 1 & 23 ?
Let me first start by saying that Episode 1 Okabe who screams is not the same Okabe who screams in both episode 23 & 24.
The one who screams in episode 1 was 0 Okabe who sent that video mail about Operation Skuld. He also saw Kurisu die in his hands.
The S;G Okabe we were following screams in episode 23 once when he fails to save Kurisu & again in episode 24 when he opened up his wound, each time an Okabe who came to attend the lecture hears this & goes to investigate, thus not changing the established events.
If the screams sound a bit different, it's not a big deal.
Dunno what you're talking about Metal Upa


Listen to this man, he speaks the truth!

Everyone who said that Episode 1 = Episode 24 or Episode 1 = Episode 23 is completely wrong. The first one can be easily debunked by the differences between the upas. The second one is wrong because that would mean we have an infinite loop, but it is stated that no loops or paradoxes exist in this universe.

In Episode 1 Okabe simply hear an Okabe from an earlier iteration who failed to save Kurisu.
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