I forgot how brutal Nagatoro was [SPOILERS!!!] (mostly just about character development)

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Apr 15, 2021 7:56 PM

TouchMahSpaghet

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Like seriously. She’s like a really supportive bestfriend or gf in the newest chapters of the manga.

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Apr 15, 2021 7:57 PM

ManWild

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Well the brutal actions are a good way to hook people in I guess

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Apr 15, 2021 8:05 PM

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I expected a much different kind of manga from the first few chapters, because the author sets her up to be a genuine sadist, and I was ready for more of a dark comedy with this guy being an unwitting masochist to her sadism, and then... 10 or so chapters in and nearly all traces of her original sadism are gone, and then once you're halfway finished with the manga you start to realize you were duped, and that the whole sadist angle was nothing but a cheap gimmick. Which is fine, because the manga is still great, but the early chapters are misleading as fuck, and don't paint an accurate picture of Nagatoro or how the story/characters evolve.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Apr 15, 2021 8:16 PM

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Yeah... In the very early chapters, Nagatoro was pretty awful and senpai was way too pathetic.

Fortunately, both of them grow into actually likable characters over time... But yeah, at first, they are kinda difficult to like...

Apr 15, 2021 9:19 PM

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Well, it's good to hear that the dynamic between the two changes, especially if it changes sooner rather than later. As an anime only viewer, so far this show really feels like a masochistic take on shows like Takagi-san and Uzaki-chan. I'm willing to watch a few more episodes, but I gain no joy from watching a sadlad being bullied by a mean girl.

Apr 15, 2021 11:01 PM

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Agreed. When I started the manga a few weeks ago, I was not really happy with the first 3 chapters. So before deciding to drop it , I looked at ch 79(the current chapter at that time), and I was genuinely surprised how their interactions were much more like friends rather than what we saw in ch 1. This got me curious enough to read 10 more chapters, and I was hooked, I enjoyed the manga very much, more than Takagi san infact.

Apr 16, 2021 12:58 AM

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I see so you also suffer from Stockholm syndrome

Apr 16, 2021 2:03 AM

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LostSpectre said:
I expected a much different kind of manga from the first few chapters, because the author sets her up to be a genuine sadist, and I was ready for more of a dark comedy with this guy being an unwitting masochist to her sadism, and then... 10 or so chapters in and nearly all traces of her original sadism are gone, and then once you're halfway finished with the manga you start to realize you were duped, and that the whole sadist angle was nothing but a cheap gimmick. Which is fine, because the manga is still great, but the early chapters are misleading as fuck, and don't paint an accurate picture of Nagatoro or how the story/characters evolve.

she is still sadistic but in a more just teasing manner or she just loves to tease him

Apr 16, 2021 2:06 AM

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LemmySalles said:
Yeah... In the very early chapters, Nagatoro was pretty awful and senpai was way too pathetic.

Fortunately, both of them grow into actually likable characters over time... But yeah, at first, they are kinda difficult to like...

yeah it’s kind of surprising considering senpai could not talk with stuttering to save his life now he can hold up a conversation and he’s just kind of embarrassed nagatoro but not to the point where he starts whimpering he can actually rebuff her

Apr 16, 2021 2:08 AM

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Why would people in the anime discussion care about how she is in the most recent chapter of the manga?

Apr 16, 2021 3:43 AM

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z00nex said:
Why would people in the anime discussion care about how she is in the most recent chapter of the manga?

Good question. I dont know as well but i think i should mark the title with spoilers

Apr 16, 2021 5:59 AM

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Yeah this is the reason I will probably drop the series. The bullying is really brutal in the first episode.

Apr 16, 2021 6:12 AM

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Pepperoni_PIZZA said:

z00nex said:
Why would people in the anime discussion care about how she is in the most recent chapter of the manga?

Good question. I dont know as well but i think i should mark the title with spoilers

Well... I suppose it's worth knowing that things get better... The first few chapters of the manga are notoriously misleading. So being aware the story mellows out allows you to make a more informed decision on whether or not you should give it a chance. Have you never watched a series that has a few awful episodes (or even a bad first season), but then you were glad you stuck with it because it got better?

Also, it isn't exactly bullying yet, as it isn't continuous or truly mean spirited... It's teasing that goes to far. Her pushing him into the pond happened by accident (she's clearly shocked by how light he is).

Doesn't change the fact that Nagatoro was indeed too inconsiderate (and senpai was way too pathetic), but that changes pretty quickly. Both characters actually evolve a lot... Nagatoro becomes much more considerate, and senpai actually starts growing a spine.

The "bullying" doesn't end, of course, but it stays well within the realm of "friendly teasing".

Apr 16, 2021 8:29 PM

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2132 said:

she is still sadistic but in a more just teasing manner or she just loves to tease him

No. That's not sadistic, that's just Uzaki-chan.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

Apr 16, 2021 8:32 PM

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Johnny00 said:
Yeah this is the reason I will probably drop the series. The bullying is really brutal in the first episode.

You can just ignore it, it's unsupported manipulative writing, treat it like slapstick humor. Her sadism is not believable, it's just a gimmick.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.

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