Ecchi in my fantasy?!
| I'm quite interested in knowing if the people here like this story despite it having ecchi but would rather go without it, or if people like it all, perversion included, and think it adds some quality to the show. I would rather not have LN/WN readers vote on this but it's not like I can do anything to stop anyone lol. Also, this is not a place to discuss the pedophilia topic. EDIT: Since I'm not sure how editing the poll would affect the results, and since some people pointed out that the options aren't clear or enough, I recommend voting with the title of the thread in mind and pretending the answers are NO and YES, or I guess if you like ecchi but dislike how it was implemented vote for the second option. Or if you feel like your vote isn't being represented feel free to skip voting and comment what you think in the thread. |
Food_poisoningFeb 21, 2021 10:15 PM
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| That is why i like Spice and Wolf. Characters acting in mature way, about mature themes, in fantasy. But MT is still much better than all that anime with the typical virgin male trope with nose bleeding in face of ecchi. Most of perv jokes are unnecessary, but still less cringe than in other shows. |
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rdturbo said: Food_poisoning said: I'm quite interested in knowing if the people here like this story despite it having ecchi and would rather go without it, or if people like it all, perversion included, and think it adds some quality to the show. I would rather not have LN/WN readers vote on this but it's not like I can do anything to stop anyone lol. Also, this is not a place to discuss the pedophilia topic. Ok lets have a serious discussion. In my honest opinion, the pervy nature of the characters just not Rudy definitely added to the story. Before I go deep, I don't mean by what happened in ep6. Yeah, it can do without that. As someone who has read the novels, there are some masterfully written sex scenes coming up way into the future. I have read multiple western fantasy novel. While they are good, the main characters often get boring because of their lack of personality. However, in Konosuba and MT we have MC's with pervy nature that in my opinion is used excellently for comedic gags. I find this type of comedy entertaining, not everyone will. I get that. Despite the wishes of some readers, the author actually went deeper into exploring sexual themes. I don't want to spoil but we have already seen adultery and polyamory explored to some extent. It goes extremely deep later in the novels and the effects it has on relationships. I was a bit surprised by this, as most often we only deal with these topics superficially, however the author went pretty deep. However, he didnt forget to put some comedic touches to that as well. Overall, yes maybe for mass audience this story could have been better off without its perverted nature, however, for me this perverted nature only added realism to the story especially in the middle and later stages. So to get there, you have to deal with the exaggerated perversion in the beginning. I do believe the author could have written the initial parts of the story better in terms of sex and stuff, but he made the conscious choice of making it an important theme throughout the story and the payoff is good, so, no I don't have many problems with it and I respect the author's choice. I can understand what you're saying, but are the themes explored through this not something that could be reached without ecchi? Or alternatively, aren't there other things that could be explored and be more supportive to the story rather than focusing on sexual themes? I guess then we'd get an entirely new story, lol. I don't necessarily think exploring sexuality in a fantasy story is bad, I just think that coupled with the weird switching between seriousness and the less-than-stellar comedy (in my opinion) it tends to fall flat a lot of times and just end up serving as cheap filler. In fact, whenever I see a story with Ecchi + Comedy + Romance( and Harem in this case) coupled with fantasy, I can't help but think that either the Romance or Comedy would fail, and that the fantasy aspect of the story itself will suffer in someway, not to say that ecchi is the factor that caused it, but it definitely contributes. |
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Food_poisoning said: I'm quite interested in knowing if the people here like this story despite it having ecchi and would rather go without it, or if people like it all, perversion included, and think it adds some quality to the show. Not to mention that all the "ecchi" in MT is around the mind of Rudeus, and the fan-service is a lot more toned than in other shows. In MT you are not going to see exaggerated stuff like this:  Even if some girls have huge jugs, you are not going to see the most basic ecchi jokes like this:  The anime is in part a comedy, but without "beach episode", "thermals episode" etc. Maybe that is why some people is so MAD about Mushoku Tensei, they wanted it to be clear, being a typical trash, or being complete absent of "degenerate" jokes. |
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Rob7 said: Food_poisoning said: I'm quite interested in knowing if the people here like this story despite it having ecchi and would rather go without it, or if people like it all, perversion included, and think it adds some quality to the show. Maybe that is why some people is so MAD about Mushoku Tensei, they wanted it to be clear, being a typical trash, or being complete absent of "degenerate" jokes. Sure, but in this case I think MT itself contributed to setting the bar by having serious themes and being a redemption story of sorts, therefore leading people up for higher expectations(in addition to the high production value I guess). So it's easier to have your immersion broken by an act of perversion out of place, or some unfunny jokes etc. |
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| And I thought we would actually have a civil discussion for once. Edit: And yeah the perviness did go overboard sometimes, and they did drag the score down. But MT does not have anything that could be called ecchi / fanservice, compared to actual ecchi fantasy, except maybe the maid's bath scene. |
AltterFeb 15, 2021 6:59 AM
Jlarz56 said: Rudeus isn't your typical anime neet; He's not Naoufumi, Not Subaru or other MC, he's the depiction of an actual messed up individual given a second chance. Don't expect him to Change so easily, he's perverted because that's how he was in his previous life, now its up to you all to see his personal growth or drop the series. Did I claim otherwise? Come on man, did you even read the thread. |
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| Then why people like me loves monogatari series and its high rated |
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| Oh definitely, the show had potential with it's worldbuilding... it really did... but the protagonist is just insufferable, his backstory is so absurd and unrealistic seems like something they did for the plot instead of writing something more natural and realistic, the author didn't have to exaggerate it and make him such a scumbag to write a good redemption story... In fact it actually has a negative effect, if you know he is scum and I know he's scum, we all know he's scum, then why root for him at all? |
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Gilgameshuu said: Oh definitely, the show had potential with it's worldbuilding... it really did... but the protagonist is just insufferable, his backstory is so absurd and unrealistic seems like something they did for the plot instead of writing something more natural and realistic, the author didn't have to exaggerate it and make him such a scumbag to write a good redemption story... In fact it actually has a negative effect, if you know he is scum and I know he's scum, we all know he's scum, then why root for him at all? Hi Gilg. What is the point about "why to root or not for him", like if there weren't lots of stories where the Hero (or more exactly, the Anti-Hero) is a complete scumbag? There is people who root for Superman. Other do it for Harley Quinn, and some do it for Pandora. You know the trail. I cant see any problem about this. |
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rdturbo said: Gilgameshuu said: Oh definitely, the show had potential with it's worldbuilding... it really did... but the protagonist is just insufferable, his backstory is so absurd and unrealistic seems like something they did for the plot instead of writing something more natural and realistic, the author didn't have to exaggerate it and make him such a scumbag to write a good redemption story... In fact it actually has a negative effect, if you know he is scum and I know he's scum, we all know he's scum, then why root for him at all? you don't root for him. the author made a conscious choice of making him the lowest of the low. It was meant to convey that even someone at the bottom can become better if they try. obviously there are some comedic hijinks thrown in there as after all this is anime. We are at volume 2 of a 24 volume journey. I get that but that's just really hit or miss, and it's a BIG miss for me, it's not interesting for me to watch someone try to get better if I can't personally root for them, I can a bit if that person has some redeemable qualities, but... I just can't see anything redeemable from Rudeus at least in my perspective so it's hard to be interested in watching his growth. |
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Rob7 said: That is why i like Spice and Wolf. Characters acting in mature way, about mature themes, in fantasy. But MT is still much better than all that anime with the typical virgin male trope with nose bleeding in face of ecchi. Most of perv jokes are unnecessary, but still less cringe than in other shows. I don't have this feeling here. This anime is also very unique and it's not your typical shonen with overused tropes. Characters in this anime are not always right and have bad features that are called out and definitely not praised or supported but that's life. It's also inspired by 14-15th century lifestyle which was very different |
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| Nah I think most of the ecchi scenes are fine and oftentimes realistic. I will admit though that the stable scene in episode 6 was a bit uncomfortable to watch considering Eris is 9 and Rudeus is mentally 40 years old. |
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Rob7 said: Gilgameshuu said: Oh definitely, the show had potential with it's worldbuilding... it really did... but the protagonist is just insufferable, his backstory is so absurd and unrealistic seems like something they did for the plot instead of writing something more natural and realistic, the author didn't have to exaggerate it and make him such a scumbag to write a good redemption story... In fact it actually has a negative effect, if you know he is scum and I know he's scum, we all know he's scum, then why root for him at all? Hi Gilg. What is the point about "why to root or not for him", like if there weren't lots of stories where the Hero (or more exactly, the Anti-Hero) is a complete scumbag? There is people who root for Superman. Other do it for Harley Quinn, and some do it for Pandora. You know the trail. I cant see any problem about this. My problem is that the author intentionally written him to be a complete scumbag with no redeemable qualities and it's hard to root for someone like that. I actually have a problem with the way the author is trying to portray his story. It feels cheap and shallow when Rudeus just wants to change when he has gotten isekai'd, he even says in Episode 1 I think? That he would change if he can get some cute girls or something along those lines? Idk it just feels cheap, it's like he's just running away from his problems in the real world, ngl I would be more interested to see his development if it was in the real world and not in a fantasy isekai. |
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| I wish all the moralist an unpleasant evening . Like , lol this lad lives with fear all his life and decide to lock himself. Now , every fear disappeared and changed with joy , why must u bring strict annoying society crap to him again. And yeah he is 7/8 years old in the new world the society in that place won't mad at him . If the pervert nature of the MC disappeared this show will be less special , and well the fanservice in this show wasn't handled like generic fanservice show like to-love ru or Eromanga sensei . |
| Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
Gilgameshuu said: My problem is that the author intentionally written him to be a complete scumbag with no redeemable qualities and it's hard to root for someone like that. I actually have a problem with the way the author is trying to portray his story. It feels cheap and shallow when Rudeus just wants to change when he has gotten isekai'd, he even says in Episode 1 I think? That he would change if he can get some cute girls or something along those lines? Idk it just feels cheap, it's like he's just running away from his problems in the real world, ngl I would be more interested to see his development if it was in the real world and not in a fantasy isekai. This is doing a straw man of this series, since the focus and entertainment in MT is about his adventures in the new world under the "reaction and comments" of his old inner self. It is not about his old traumas,and we can see that when his main trauma, which made him to stay 20 years recluse, was almost all erased in the 2nd episode, and in the 3rd he was already really fine with new relationships. Sure, because it is the story of the boy Rudeus, with comments and guidance of the old Rudeus. This kind of isekai has nothing to do with for example, a Subaru from RZ, who got transported to the other world being himself, and where all his previous issues matter, for a long time, in his devenlopment in the new world. If you can see the difference, sure a person who dont like this kind of plot will not approve it, but maybe can understand why so many other are enjoying it, and not because it is a "pedo fulfillment" like some trolls claim it to be, lol. - And that is also why i disagree with the people who defend it saying the old Rudeus flaws matters. It doesn't, it is not the focus of the series, and he will not regret "being horny". |
Rob7Feb 15, 2021 7:58 AM
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Rob7 said: Gilgameshuu said: My problem is that the author intentionally written him to be a complete scumbag with no redeemable qualities and it's hard to root for someone like that. I actually have a problem with the way the author is trying to portray his story. It feels cheap and shallow when Rudeus just wants to change when he has gotten isekai'd, he even says in Episode 1 I think? That he would change if he can get some cute girls or something along those lines? Idk it just feels cheap, it's like he's just running away from his problems in the real world, ngl I would be more interested to see his development if it was in the real world and not in a fantasy isekai. This is doing a straw man of this series, since the focus and entertainment in MT is about his adventures in the new world under the "reaction and comments" of his old inner self. It is not about his old traumas,and we can see that when his main trauma, which made him to stay 20 years recluse, was almost all erased in the 2nd episode, and in the 3rd he was already really fine with new relationships. Sure, because it is the story of the boy Rudeus, with comments and guidance of the old Rudeus. This kind of isekai has nothing to do with for example, a Subaru from RZ, who got transported to the other world being himself, and where all his previous issues matter, for a long time, in his devenlopment in the new world. If you can see the difference, sure a person who dont like this kind of plot will not approve it, but maybe can understand why so many other are enjoying it, and not because it is a "pedo fulfillment" like some trolls claim it to be, lol. - And that is also why i disagree with they people who defend it saying the old Rudeus flaws matters. It doesn't, it is not the focus of the series, and he will not regret "being horny". That's fair, I'm just not invested in Rudy's character and with a lot of people saying he won't stop being a creep then I don't think my opinion of him would change but I'm still really interested in the world and wouldn't mind to see his adventures instead as that would help with establishing the world building which is what I'm primarily watching this show for. |
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| Yeah, for me it'd be better if Rudeus wasn't a perverted creep. I can't stand characters who are over the top horny or perverted, especially if they inappropriatly touch others without their consent (or undress and sexually assault them). I don't have a problem with flawed or morally gray characters, but this is one of the possible ways to create one of these that I personally don't like watching - so I'm not rooting for Rudy. It was more fun to see Eris beat him up, cause he had that one coming. Having said that, that's completely subjective and I won't call anyone names cause they like Rudy or root for him to better himself (unless you think he's literally doing nothing wrong... I still won't insult you, but that's concerning tbh). |
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| idk why SJW keep fighting no matter whats the poll about, men of culture will always win, japan invented Anime for men of culture, no way you can win any poll, just woke up |
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| Another point that may be bugging people, even if they are not aware about it: - Rudeus keeps his little immoral behaviour but he is NOT treated clearly as an Anti-Hero. Exactly for it being little. Everybody knows that people like Anti-Hero tropes. People root for Anti-Heroes and nobody is ashamed for that. Things that famous anti-heroes did: - Rape. - Killing of innocent people, civilians, kids. - Besides other evil deeds. But Anti-Heroes are against a greater evil, and after a time, they diminish the evil deeds or follow an moral code, so it turns them acceptable. The problem in MT. The show provides the expectation that Rudeus is a hero that should not have the flaws he has. "Your father already has teach you about consent and respect, why you keep doing this?" This borderline status may be annoying or frustrating. |
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| Seeing a lot of the comments makes me think I just have different morals than other people. To me the perverted stuff doesn’t bother me at all. Even if he’s the lowest of the low, the scummiest person there is, I would still be rooting for him because he is the main character. To me this is just fiction, something I could experience something I can’t experience in reality, and in a way, self insert into the characters. This of course means the mc is the character I would self insert in to the most. Now me irl is not the best person. I have some obvious flaws, however since I am me, I undermine those flaws and focus on the good parts, which raises my self confidence. So when I self insert into the mc, I ignore all the flaws, and only focus on the good parts. So when the mc is perverted and a pedophile(for me when I read the novel, I didn’t really think of him as a 40 year old but just as the mc, so when he did the ‘pedo’ stuff, I just thought of it as regular perverted antics which is the case in a lot of ecchi series, so pedo didn’t even cross my mind), I ignore it, or don’t think of it as a big deal. I recognize that other people feel differently than me, but that is just me. |
ExcaliburAOFeb 15, 2021 11:57 AM
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| I would say no, but fuck Paul. I think that nature is a main part of what the series is. |
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| I don't think that the show needs the Ecchi, but it's absolutely welcome and does nothing but enhance the experience |
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| I am fine with ecchi, but not the way it is implemented here. It just feels out of place and serving no reason but to satisfy authors kinks. You can't make a story of a man that tries to live life properly and not become a useless bum while he does not even try to fix his problems (and fixing stuff offscreen like becoming an actual family member and not a leach does not count cause we never saw the effords he put into it). |
slavemaster_1991 said: I am fine with ecchi, but not the way it is implemented here. It just feels out of place and serving no reason but to satisfy authors kinks. You can't make a story of a man that tries to live life properly and not become a useless bum while he does not even try to fix his problems (and fixing stuff offscreen like becoming an actual family member and not a leach does not count cause we never saw the effords he put into it). To quote the author, "It's not as if he has loads of regrets about being a pervert in his previous life. That's why in the isekai he doesn't necessarily think, 'I'm going to live life seriously! That also means stop being a perv!'" He has regrets about not going outside, about not making any friends, about not getting a girlfriend, no job, freeloading etc. But at no point did he ever express regrets about being a perv. It's hard to erase 20+ years of built-up habits and ways of thinking when you have literally 0 external or internal incentive to do so. He didn't say "I'm going to become a model citizen and a bastion of morality," he said that he was going to live life seriously. And that's what he's doing. He left the house, got a job, he's forming relationships. "No more perving" isn't on the agenda. |
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Degeneral said: slavemaster_1991 said: I am fine with ecchi, but not the way it is implemented here. It just feels out of place and serving no reason but to satisfy authors kinks. You can't make a story of a man that tries to live life properly and not become a useless bum while he does not even try to fix his problems (and fixing stuff offscreen like becoming an actual family member and not a leach does not count cause we never saw the effords he put into it). To quote the author, "It's not as if he has loads of regrets about being a pervert in his previous life. That's why in the isekai he doesn't necessarily think, 'I'm going to live life seriously! That also means stop being a perv!'" He has regrets about not going outside, about not making any friends, about not getting a girlfriend, no job, freeloading etc. But at no point did he ever express regrets about being a perv. It's hard to erase 20+ years of built-up habits and ways of thinking when you have literally 0 external or internal incentive to do so. He didn't say "I'm going to become a model citizen and a bastion of morality," he said that he was going to live life seriously. And that's what he's doing. He left the house, got a job, he's forming relationships. "No more perving" isn't on the agenda. It is not if I see this quote for the first time and I will repeat myself once more: if you want to put your BS into the novel at least insert it believably. If anyone cared about him being a pervert and reacted on it - I would not complane. In this case, however, noone cares. Oh, he stole panties and worships them? Nothing of note. Looks and acts like a creep? Oh how cute. Ffs author could just mention that this world has less strict societal norms in this regard and that's why noone cares - and it would be enough! But he just put it there without any strings attached and says "It will do". No it will not cause it is bad writing. The problem is not in perversion itself, it is in the way it is put into this. It adds nothing, it looks odd and out of place and there is literally no purpose in it apart from satisfying author. |
| I'm actually fine with characters acting like scumbag and degenerate. I see so many bad things in everyday life. I cannot expect every character to be flawless like a Tanjirou. The thing is that these "bad" characters aren't even that evil compared to some real people I personally know. Also' I'd argue that the fanservice in this anime is actually good. Other ecchi anime did worse in term of fansrevice and didn't get the backlash MT got. |
slavemaster_1991 said: Degeneral said: To quote the author, "It's not as if he has loads of regrets about being a pervert in his previous life. That's why in the isekai he doesn't necessarily think, 'I'm going to live life seriously! That also means stop being a perv!'" He has regrets about not going outside, about not making any friends, about not getting a girlfriend, no job, freeloading etc. But at no point did he ever express regrets about being a perv. It's hard to erase 20+ years of built-up habits and ways of thinking when you have literally 0 external or internal incentive to do so. He didn't say "I'm going to become a model citizen and a bastion of morality," he said that he was going to live life seriously. And that's what he's doing. He left the house, got a job, he's forming relationships. "No more perving" isn't on the agenda. It is not if I see this quote for the first time and I will repeat myself once more: if you want to put your BS into the novel at least insert it believably. If anyone cared about him being a pervert and reacted on it - I would not complane. In this case, however, noone cares. Oh, he stole panties and worships them? Nothing of note. Looks and acts like a creep? Oh how cute. Ffs author could just mention that this world has less strict societal norms in this regard and that's why noone cares - and it would be enough! But he just put it there without any strings attached and says "It will do". No it will not cause it is bad writing. The problem is not in perversion itself, it is in the way it is put into this. It adds nothing, it looks odd and out of place and there is literally no purpose in it apart from satisfying author. "Looks and acts like a creep? Oh how cute." I mean yeah he acts like a creep when he's like 5. I guarantee if you did similar things back then you would not get similar reactions to when you're an adult, because people automatically assume children are innocent when it comes to that sort of thing. "Author could just mention that this world has less strict societal norms in this regard and that's why no one cares" ... Isn't the #1 rule of story telling "Show, don't tell"? You're discovering the world just as the MC is. Clearly, since somebody tried to sell an aphrodisiac to a 7 year old and his father is discussing sexual things with Rudy, we can infer that the societal norms of this culture are probably vastly different to our own. "It adds nothing, it looks odd and out of place, and there is literally no purpose in it apart from satisfying the author." I disagree completely. This MC did nothing but jack off to hentai in his room for like twenty damn years straight while getting 0 human interaction. That does some stuff to your brain bro. Right now he feels like he's in a video game and is living out all of the fantasies that have been festering inside of him for decades. If he DIDN'T have any perverted thoughts, his backstory wouldn't be believable whatsoever. It would be yet another isekai where a loner jobless protagonist goes into another world and instantly becomes a charismatic gigachad. |
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Gilgameshuu said: My problem is that the author intentionally written him to be a complete scumbag with no redeemable qualities and it's hard to root for someone like that. I actually have a problem with the way the author is trying to portray his story. It feels cheap and shallow when Rudeus just wants to change when he has gotten isekai'd, he even says in Episode 1 I think? That he would change if he can get some cute girls or something along those lines? Idk it just feels cheap, it's like he's just running away from his problems in the real world, ngl I would be more interested to see his development if it was in the real world and not in a fantasy isekai. I actually agree 100% with this and will add that he is also not very entertaining to watch. Kazuma from Konosuba is also a complete dipshit but at least he's entertaining whereas I watch Rudy and I am not amused at all. Even if there is character growth for him I'm not sure if it will ever be enough to get me to like him anymore than I do now which is not at all. First impression is very important to me and Rudy set off a veerrrryyyy bad first impression. |
MiiyoSonFeb 21, 2021 2:55 AM
Degeneral said: "Looks and acts like a creep? Oh how cute." I mean yeah he acts like a creep when he's like 5. I guarantee if you did similar things back then you would not get similar reactions to when you're an adult, because people automatically assume children are innocent when it comes to that sort of thing. If you thinks he will tone down his degeneracy - you are wrong. He stays this way even when he grows up. Degeneral said: "Author could just mention that this world has less strict societal norms in this regard and that's why no one cares" ... Isn't the #1 rule of story telling "Show, don't tell"? You're discovering the world just as the MC is. Clearly, since somebody tried to sell an aphrodisiac to a 7 year old and his father is discussing sexual things with Rudy, we can infer that the societal norms of this culture are probably vastly different to our own. Idk, this "showing" is so unsubstantial that it feels more like lack of it. Remember that his father is not a role parent, he raped the maid (before the story, in anime it is not stated solidly, but if I recall correctly in source it was a rape), he chased after numerous women and even after he settled down he still cheated. Apart from his parent (whos behavior was a bit judged by his own wife, as she wanted him to stop chaising scirts if he wanted to marry) we see no info about how his world is in that regard (the dude trying to sell drugs to rich kid could just be a scammer aiming for a rich kid, so not really telling much about the customs too). Degeneral said: "It adds nothing, it looks odd and out of place, and there is literally no purpose in it apart from satisfying the author." I disagree completely. This MC did nothing but jack off to hentai in his room for like twenty damn years straight while getting 0 human interaction. That does some stuff to your brain bro. Right now he feels like he's in a video game and is living out all of the fantasies that have been festering inside of him for decades. If he DIDN'T have any perverted thoughts, his backstory wouldn't be believable whatsoever. It would be yet another isekai where a loner jobless protagonist goes into another world and instantly becomes a charismatic gigachad. But he became a gigachad whose flaws are looked down due to his magnificence! If people were like "Oh he is a great mage, a good friend, but sometimes he freaks me out with his creepyness" - yeah, that would not be a problem. Here, however, noone bats an eye. If it is not MC gigachad plot armor - than what is it? |
slavemaster_1991 said: If you thinks he will tone down his degeneracy - you are wrong. He stays this way even when he grows up. I know, I mean that it's understandable that nobody reacts to a 5 year old doing perverted things. We don't know whether or not he will get called out for it when he's an adult, in the context of the anime adaptation. Right now he's still a child, and people automatically assume innocence in children. There's also the weird catgirl request they had Eris do, which could be another indication. Also, that dude selling the aphrodisiac was literally one of the only interactions we've had with the outside world so far aside from Rudy's family, so I'm not sure what else you want at this point. Maybe in future episodes we will get to experience the culture of this world more. In regards to your last point, I don't really think you need "plot armour" in order to be assumed to be innocent when you're like 7 years old. If nobody calls him out for it when he is an adult then I will agree with you. |
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Degeneral said: There's also the weird catgirl request they had Eris do, which could be another indication. Also, that dude selling the aphrodisiac was literally one of the only interactions we've had with the outside world so far aside from Rudy's family, so I'm not sure what else you want at this point. Maybe in future episodes we will get to experience the culture of this world more. In regards to your last point, I don't really think you need "plot armour" in order to be assumed to be innocent when you're like 7 years old. If nobody calls him out for it when he is an adult then I will agree with you. Catgirl stuff can be considered as "eccentric noble", it is not an indication of norm either. Author took a widely used "western medival fantasy" setting, so if he had any original stuff - he should have stated it, otherwise people will automatically assume that this world is identical to our.s. And about future - I have read the source somewhat, so I say "he doesn't get called out" I don't mean just in kid phase. Yes, for kid it could pass, like haha look, typical kids curiosity. However things will never change in that regard and all his strange doings will be brushed off. Except like one time where it was used for "classical" moment where MC was actually innocent but got the blame. I am not diving into details cause it will be just a spoiler at this point. But yes, if you take it "so far" and are anime only - I understand how you scratch your head about Rudeus when his mischiefe seems not hugely off so far. |
| It's a bit too much. Way too much actually. Should've known better with people calling it the "Grandfather of isekai", that also means "Grandfather of degeneracy". It most definitely gets in the way of the story trying to be told. |
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