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Jan 16, 2021 5:29 PM
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I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development
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Jan 16, 2021 5:33 PM
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development


Can you just make this thread AFTER this season ends? It’s quite baffling to say something about “poorly structured” foundation without knowing that we’re still in Episode 2 where the starting point is there, and there will be more to offer.

Tsk tsk... such impatience.

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Jan 16, 2021 5:43 PM
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I have to agree. I’ve binged the entirety of season one and season two part one in the last couple of days.

For me, the most difficult part when it comes to watching it is the fact that there is barely any explanation for the narrative for the majority of events that take place. Things just happen, Subaru goes through a lot of pain and then the story moves on without what could be said to be even an ounce of satisfaction- at least that how I felt when I watched it. I’m confused half of the time; it’s probably just me, but that makes it incredibly difficult to enjoy watching it.

It’s a very well animated show, and the facial expressions of the characters are A*. Same with the voice acting. I’ll give it that much.
Jan 16, 2021 5:46 PM
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You are correct. It is an overrated show.
Jan 16, 2021 5:53 PM
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I get it. You are angry that this season is higher than Heaven's Fell 2, which for a moment surpassed the third part and that it has the audacity to climb the ranks with its last episode when it should already be out of the TOP 50.

Now go complain in the forums of the episodes until the series ends like all the others.
Jan 16, 2021 5:55 PM
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I think you watched a different re zero. Your words make no sense
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Jan 16, 2021 5:58 PM
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development


I think it's just one of those series that you either adore and cherish for the rest of your life or you just want it to be deleted and gone forever. Honestly, for me, it brought a new concept to Isekai anime, and I'm all for it. True, it's very overrated, a lot of people praise it more than they should, but by all means, it isn't a bad show.

Subaru has tons of flaws in his character, but that's what makes him great. His ability brings pain every time it's being used, but for each time Subaru uses it, his character grows a little bit stronger. It gives him hope to go further, to no longer be angry or sad about somebody dying in the future. Because he truly believes he can save them. At the end of the first part of Season 2, I finally saw a side of Subaru that I've long forgotten. He was just like the Subaru in the first season, at the battle with the whale. Determined, strategic and ready to die anytime to make sure this mission was succesful. As the plot advances today, in the second part of Season 2, I believe the events will occur similarly to Season 1, and I cannot wait for it.

About background info on characters; I don't think Isekais give background on certain characters at all. Subaru was the only one in RE:Zero with a backstory, but it was needed for the trials. He came to terms with his past, and understood that his present right now is in this magical, weird and obscure world. You also have the movie that was about the backstory of Emilia, the fire in the village where Ram and Rem were born. I haven't watched that many Isekais, but I don't remember one of them that gave a backstory to one of its characters. This is most probably due to my lack of information about the genre.

This was just my opinion. I loved RE:Zero, even for its flaws sometimes. It was and is a great show that will most probably leave a huge mark on the anime industry. Now, let's hope that part 2 isn't going to be the typical "bad continuation" that we usually see nowadays.

Jan 16, 2021 6:10 PM
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i think this is the SAME complain on AOT when it's season 2 is airing.. but all of it PROVED WRONG.. Can RE:ZERO do the same i wonder? time will tell i guess if it's true or not..
Jan 16, 2021 6:29 PM
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You watch different rezero.... ithink rezero have a unique plot and different from isekai anime out there
Jan 16, 2021 6:41 PM
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development
Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development
I hate seeing comments like this when the bloody season hasn't even ended. I can't say much of what is to come due to spoiler reasons but just be patient and wait for the season to end and then make a comment regarding if it's overrated or not. Also, I disagree with everything you said since imo, the characters are most certainly not shallow and the plot progression has been really good so far.
Jan 16, 2021 6:44 PM
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What a stupid title.
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Don't fall for obvious bait guys, this user is known for making stupid threads and reviews.
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I thought in 2021 we already gone in these overrated show thread. Guess Im wrong. Well Its Myanimelist.net for reason.
Jan 16, 2021 7:13 PM
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Honestly i think it's underrated, yeah it has it flaws but it's still incredibly unique. I haven't watch anythung that even comes close to give the feeling that it has around it.
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development



I think this mans is watching the wrong Re:Zero because literally all the story is is just world and character building I mean it do get kinda repetitive when the only thing that happens is Subaru doing something just to have it never happen cuz he dead but all his deaths just show a depth to the characters and how they respond to all the different situations.
Jan 16, 2021 7:54 PM
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Standard of Re zero progression is things always come first, f*cked the shit of our minds and make you tired. Author intend to make sure y are understanding what the problem is, and collect the information my man, and lastly the answer will come near middle or end arc.

This is why re zero is fun to me at least, i always wonder why all this characters is evil, what are they intention, why subaru have to suffer, why emilia is depressed? So be patient and wait for the series to finished before judge goddamit.
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development


I think it's just one of those series that you either adore and cherish for the rest of your life or you just want it to be deleted and gone forever. Honestly, for me, it brought a new concept to Isekai anime, and I'm all for it. True, it's very overrated, a lot of people praise it more than they should, but by all means, it isn't a bad show.

Subaru has tons of flaws in his character, but that's what makes him great. His ability brings pain every time it's being used, but for each time Subaru uses it, his character grows a little bit stronger. It gives him hope to go further, to no longer be angry or sad about somebody dying in the future. Because he truly believes he can save them. At the end of the first part of Season 2, I finally saw a side of Subaru that I've long forgotten. He was just like the Subaru in the first season, at the battle with the whale. Determined, strategic and ready to die anytime to make sure this mission was succesful. As the plot advances today, in the second part of Season 2, I believe the events will occur similarly to Season 1, and I cannot wait for it.

About background info on characters; I don't think Isekais give background on certain characters at all. Subaru was the only one in RE:Zero with a backstory, but it was needed for the trials. He came to terms with his past, and understood that his present right now is in this magical, weird and obscure world. You also have the movie that was about the backstory of Emilia, the fire in the village where Ram and Rem were born. I haven't watched that many Isekais, but I don't remember one of them that gave a backstory to one of its characters. This is most probably due to my lack of information about the genre.

This was just my opinion. I loved RE:Zero, even for its flaws sometimes. It was and is a great show that will most probably leave a huge mark on the anime industry. Now, let's hope that part 2 isn't going to be the typical "bad continuation" that we usually see nowadays.


False I think it’s good and get excited for it but it’s not as good as everyone says and they are right the foundation is poor but it has moments where it shines
Jan 16, 2021 8:59 PM
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Nice bait dud, this is the same guy who gave aot final season and fruits basket s2 a 1.
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i think this is the SAME complain on AOT when it's season 2 is airing.. but all of it PROVED WRONG.. Can RE:ZERO do the same i wonder? time will tell I guess if it's true or not..
This. Arc 6(which should be season 4) was when the many novel reader started calling this show a masterpiece, although I called it one on arc 4. Arc 6 just finished and right now we should be a little be more than halfway though the story. There will be 11 arcs in total, and arcs 7-11 should be around the same length of arc 6 and arc 4, which was 5 to 6 volumes. If they adapt it all, there should be around 150 to 200 episodes. There will be around 83 episodes of attack on titan when it is finished. Whether you liked attack on titan's first 3 seasons or not, season 3 part 2 was when people started calling attack on titan a masterpiece and more people started coming back to the series. And that was when the story was like 70 percent done. We are barely 30 percent done with re zero in the anime. I'm confident the same is gonna happen to re zero that it did with attack on titan.
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I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper.

I think you're just baiting.Poor judgement?Terrible temper????Are we even watching the same anime???
After seeing your list it is pretty obvious you're baiting.
You gave Tokyo ghoul,Devilman crybaby,High school DxD a high rating and Demon slayer,Attack on titan,Vinland saga,Kaguya sama,etc a low rating.Don't you have anything better to do in life than give popular shows low ratings and trash shows high ratings?
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development
Did you know Subaru is considered one of the smartest characters in the series?
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Haha, I know this user, he pulls threads out of his ass once in a while
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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development


I have to agree and disagree here as I also think rezero is a little overrated but at the same time the unique plotline kept me( atleast) captivated . The characters maybe shallow but its not your typical perfect MC , he makes alot of mistakes ,is shit at decision making but at the same time this show manages to pique my curiousity on how the full of shit ,imperfect MC handles things .

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Re:Zero overrated...i would only say i disagree and if you find Re:Zero overrated and not worth your time then you can just drop it rather than making overrated threads it's no big deal, no series is perfect people who like Re:Zero accept it with it's flaws if it has any...
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I agree with you. Re:Zero might be the most overrated anime of all time.
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I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development
wait wait wait are you dumb or what you dropped s1 at 3 ep then you start s2 and watch till ep 5 an then again drop it and now you are watching s2 part 2 ........wow i am actually done holy......if you want to criticize a work you have to atleast finish it crazy people
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Reported. I don't think the poster of this thread is encouraging any form of meaningful discussion. Instead, this is just igniting flame wars.

You may use this thread, which is the official thread if you want to talk about overrated or underrated anime.

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Kurisu_Maklse said:
I'd say the main flaw of this series is how poorly the foundation is structured. The setting provides nothing much other than a standard fantasy world with elves, beasts, humans and witches, a royal family and an ominous enemy. Just disappointingly average and textbook. The characters are shallow and we don't learn much about them at all.

This is why it's inevitable that Re:Zero fails to evoke whole-hearted sympathy and emotional attachment from its' viewers. Honestly I couldn't give a shit about the MC near the end and although I could logically understand his deteriorating mental state, I just got increasingly frustrated at his naivete, poor judgement and terrible temper. There were painstakingly obvious scenes trying to force sadness or empathy from the viewer which made things worse imo.

Re:Zero is a huge franchise, and they honestly could've afforded to invest more time in character backgrounds and setting development

Guys why do you even bother to answer this guy??? he gave Hunter x Hunter a 1. He gave Re:Zero a 1. gave vinland saga a 4. gave kimetsu no yaiba a 5 (how is kimetsu no yaiba having a higher score than the ones i mentioned??) and gave attack on titan final season a 6.Well yeah I think anyone who even bothers answering this guy is wasting his/her time. This guy probably calls any anime with a high score that he doesn't like overrated. might as well report him
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This anime would be better if Otto was the main character and if they removed Emilia (she is really awful)
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