My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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Aug 18, 2020 8:56 AM
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| LONG POST, please enjoy (All credits to the creators of the manga) [Please Discuss with NO SPOILER from Manga, LN or whatever beyond Episode 6 Oregairu Kan] So it is episode 6 now of the last season for My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU. And so far, its been a despair season for Yui fan (I don't want any spoiler, but if you just watch from this point, you could've guess now). So far from the Anime, I just can't help but feel that there's something missing. Like the dialogue the characters have is lacking some things. Therefore, since I'm not into LN, I try to get more of the details from the manga (if you want to read up to this point, you can read from chapter 60-83). Guess what, the more I read, the more I say Yui is best girl no doubt. Yukino is main girl of course, with Hachiman is main guy. Usually main girl ends up with main guy from what I know in my manga/anime experience (only Ichigo 100% is the one I think do something different, and its great). Yui is best girl, and from what I experience usually going for the route of Onodera, Rem, etc. So unless it goes surprised route like in Ichigo 100%, we actually could already guess who gets 8man since even episode 1. Now back to the topics, I have to say the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moment. They have a lot of moment this season, but execution not that great if I compare it to manga. In the anime, the feelings are like 8man did not really enjoy moments with Yui, but take a look at this :  Little things like these kind of expressions really make the differences. Hachiman makes the selfie as Lockscreen  8man knows it   This is also a powerful scene, moments when Yui is crying.  We see that Hachiman is running on the Anime.  We thought its because Hachiman runs because he was worried about Yukino, if we only based it on what we watch on the anime. But on the manga, its shown that its because he's surprised due to Yui's tear, he knows what its about but choose to run away from it.  This moment is cute ( Again, not shown in the anime (T_T) )     Look at Hayama & Friends reaction haha  Fast forward to the scene in the family restaurant, Hikki realize that Yukino and Yui's relationship have gone distant.  This another moment not shown on the anime. Hikki's solution for the prom simply put is he wants to be the "bad guy" again.  Yui not happy, Hikki realized it.  In conclusion, there are so many moments here I wish could've got adapted T_T The small things that happened is actually what can influenced how the viewers sees the story. |
Aug 18, 2020 9:30 AM
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| Nice take, been a while since I read a proper review. I do feel there's lacking something in the anime, thought because it only adapter the last 2 volumes thats why its a bit slow. But looking at this, it seems like there were moments being skipped. Still love the anime though. |
Aug 18, 2020 9:33 AM
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| It's back in Season 1 but my favorite Yui moment that sadly wasn't adapted in the anime was this: Yuigahama’s sparkler burned out with a poof. As if she’d been waiting for that moment, she whispered, “Hey, Hikki. We did it all, didn’t we?” “Did what?” “The stuff we talked about when we ran into each other that time. We didn’t have a barbecue, but we made curry. We didn’t go to the pool, but we played in the water. And we weren’t sleeping in tents or anything, but we did get to stay at a campground. And we were the ones doing the scaring, but we still did a haunted forest.” “You’re saying all that stuff counts?” I felt like our experience was substantially different from what she had suggested. But Yuigahama just tossed her dead sparkler into the bucket and took out another one. “It’s close enough! And…we’re lighting fireworks together right now.” “I guess.” “All my ideas came true. So…you should make the two of us hanging out together come true, too.” Yuigahama stopped there. It was as if my gaze were magnetically drawn toward her. Our eyes met, and she smiled. Our sparklers crackled and bloomed. Still, I had only one response. “…Yeah, whatever, sometime.”  This was the part where I was like, wow. Yuigahama isn't so bad after all. In fact, she toppled Yukinoshita at that very moment. Yuigahama is very underrated when compared to Yukinoshita when they're both good girls. |
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Aug 18, 2020 9:40 AM
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| I read what you wrote but even then I still have to say this-- this manga is extremely mediocre and uninspiring in terms of both content as well as art. Either you go LN or you go Anime, no in-between. |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
Aug 18, 2020 12:07 PM
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| Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukino scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. And what the-? Just noticed this manga from OP's pics, what's Hachiman doing? He wasn't acting like this in the LN, what is this exaggerated Hachiman I'm saying, Hachiman's monlogues aren't even there to give context... |
A_G_NAug 18, 2020 9:19 PM
Aug 18, 2020 12:40 PM
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A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. |
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Aug 18, 2020 4:08 PM
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A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Hey chilled, I read the manga that covers season 3 episodes and it is indeed not a lot of yukino moment (only in chapter 78-79). Probably from next episode onwards the story will centered around yukino but so far the season goes, it has covered all the needed yukino moment. |
Aug 18, 2020 4:19 PM
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| Yui had been my favorite since season 1. but the current season a lot of sad moment which is tough... What I like about the manga is it covers more on hikigaya's internal monologue that is not cover in the anime. |
Aug 18, 2020 4:33 PM
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| To be honest if you read the LN until the current part (well, no spoiler beyond that), the author has been heavily biased towars yukinoshita. Even from the volume 1 of the LN, when hikki's still on his most "negative mode", author have always made the writing in hikigaya's mind of like yukinoshita is beautiful, etc etc. Not much things like that for yuigahama. That is why to begin with, its never been on equal footing which is sad. For sure as you mention on Ichigo 100% is a very rare case indeed, that the side girl could actually stand her chance, we need more story like this for sure... |
Aug 18, 2020 8:23 PM
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| Yui's fans complain about Yui's cut scenes, which is really ironic when 90% of Yui and Iroha's scenes are animated while Yukino is only 50-60%. Should I create a post like this for Yukino? Well I guess that's impossible, it would be a long thesis if we talk about Yukino's skipped scenes. |
Aug 18, 2020 8:31 PM
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ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. |
Aug 18, 2020 8:33 PM
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A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. |
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Aug 18, 2020 8:36 PM
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jackbayu555 said: Well, if you know, Yui is a side character, I know, shocking!!, but the author has stated long ago, that Hachiman and Yukino were the main characters, everybody else is just plot points to get then together. Equal footing doesn't matter when she's not even the main character, everyone except Hachiman and Yukino is a side character. The story was always about them, the auhor stated this way earlier in the novels.To be honest if you read the LN until the current part (well, no spoiler beyond that), the author has been heavily biased towars yukinoshita. Even from the volume 1 of the LN, when hikki's still on his most "negative mode", author have always made the writing in hikigaya's mind of like yukinoshita is beautiful, etc etc. Not much things like that for yuigahama. That is why to begin with, its never been on equal footing which is sad. For sure as you mention on Ichigo 100% is a very rare case indeed, that the side girl could actually stand her chance, we need more story like this for sure... And equal footing? What do you mean? Does Hachiman has to have feelings for both Yukino and Yui,?that each of their scenes have to similar significance? If it went that route, the story would've destroyed itself long ago. If you've read the LN, you should know why Hachiman doesn't prefer Yui, he even feels uncorfortable when she tries to be physically intimate. Hachiman just doesn't like her like that, and you should know Yui's relationship with him is bad for him for various reasons. Not saying she's a bad character or anything.. Why Yui had all the chance to get together with Hachiman, it is a fact that after the accident, she didn't meet with Hachiman for an entire year, just ignored him bcz of her social standing being in danger. Second, Yui's an enabler, as in she will agree to whatever he says. She accepts most of his traits so he will like her, regardless if it is bad or anything. Remember after Tobe Ebina confession, yui felt hurt by that, reprimended Hachiman, but then the next moment she moved on like nothing happened, its all this subtle stuff that tells you stuff, Yukini while is in internal conflict to change his bad ways. Another big issue, the codependecy part, Haruno may have said it regarding Hachiman and Yukino, by saying the trio had a codependent relationship, and it was wrong, in Hachiman and Yukino's case, but not in Hachiman and Yui's. Remember, in her prelude in vol 13(the anime cut this part) but she's stating Hachiman as her hero, this has deep meaning behind it. Yui has always loved Hachiman for saving her dog. Yui may have stated that it not becaue of that, but her monologues tell otherwise, this has been discussed and further proved by other points too. The thing is Yui's just the most human character in the series, she does things like a normal girl does to make her crush notice, her feelings stemmed from Hachiman saving her dog, but never really developed into anythig else, it was just that one trait being glorified in her mind. Heavy undertones of this present all throughout the novel, trust me, I had to read analysis of it to actually understand. But she's still a plot point, in if a very good one |
A_G_NAug 18, 2020 9:06 PM
Aug 18, 2020 9:04 PM
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UnityOne said: While I know Yukino takes a backseat during this arc, because the author was padding her defeat with lots of Hachiman interaction. I was just stating to the OP, that every scene can't be adapted, first, time is not there, the first half will be Yui, the second half will be Yukino. Bu yh, most yukino scenes have been adapted for this season.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Hey chilled, I read the manga that covers season 3 episodes and it is indeed not a lot of yukino moment (only in chapter 78-79). Probably from next episode onwards the story will centered around yukino but so far the season goes, it has covered all the needed yukino moment. |
Aug 18, 2020 9:08 PM
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ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. |
Aug 18, 2020 9:20 PM
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A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to specifically discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? |
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Aug 18, 2020 9:23 PM
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ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD |
Aug 18, 2020 9:45 PM
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A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. |
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Aug 18, 2020 9:55 PM
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ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. |
Aug 18, 2020 10:10 PM
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A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? |
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Aug 18, 2020 10:25 PM
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| Alright alright, hehe, fine, I give up. But since you asked, my favourite Yui moment was the episode where she was potrayed as more than just a nice girl, because that meant she also had secrets she couldn't convey. You may think I dislike Yui or something, I wasn't. I like her just like how I like Iroha, everyone has their own characteristics. Yui is the most human character in the series, I've said this multiple times, she acts, reacts, and conveys emotion like a normal human would do, mostly.. So yh, that's my favourite moment of her. |
Aug 19, 2020 2:30 AM
#22
ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? |
Aug 19, 2020 3:00 AM
#23
flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? Well, that's nothing new. And besides, I heard that this manga(@monolgue manga) is the manga which only shows anime stuff, not the LN, but then I see these manga shots and I'm incredibly confused now as this wasn't like this in anime. There's the @comic manga, but that's just full comedy, nothing to do with LN story. There's a joke the people of oregairu discord have, the LN is the only source, everything related, anime and manga are just official cheap ripoffs. I thought the manga was decent in adapting as I havent read it. Now I'm seriously considering if any other adaptation except LN was good.... |
A_G_NAug 19, 2020 3:10 AM
Aug 19, 2020 10:15 AM
#24
flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. |
ToraiSAug 19, 2020 10:19 AM
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Aug 19, 2020 10:27 AM
#25
ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. |
Aug 19, 2020 10:45 AM
#26
flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. |
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Aug 19, 2020 11:01 AM
#27
ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that manga is better than anime and is giving comparison of scenes and is disappointed why anime is not like that and is whining about it. But in fact the interpretation in manga is from mangaka himself and he adds scenes from his part to make them look better for yui. So OP have no right to whine about it because anime is using LN as the source material, not the manga, like it has always been. It's totally related to topic.flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. |
Aug 19, 2020 11:30 AM
#28
flamebc said: Holy shit I can feel my brain cells dissipating out of thin air again. What a reach. You'd bring gymnastics to shame as to how you're really stretching your argument to fit this discussion.ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that manga is better than anime and is giving comparison of scenes and is disappointed why anime is not like that and is whining about it. But in fact the interpretation in manga is from mangaka himself and he adds scenes from his part to make them look better for yui. So OP have no right to whine about it because anime is using LN as the source material, not the manga, like it has always been. It's totally related to topic.flamebc said: ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. Again, for the fifth time now, if you have concerns about how the manga is biased to Yuigahama, or it's not an accurate adaptation to the LN, make your own thread. This is a thread about Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) thread. Read the title please. Arguing about why it's "wrong" to prefer the manga (when it comes to Yui x Hachiman scenes) is pretty useless because it's heavily in the realm of subjectivity. Face it, people prefer chocolate, people prefer pistachio; only elitists say that vanilla is the only subjective truth and that any iterations of it are only fakes. Ah, another can of worms. But I implore you to actually stay in topic for once: What is your favorite 8man x Yui scene? |
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Aug 19, 2020 11:39 AM
#29
ToraiS said: Dude, you are literally crying for no reason. OP is not asking people to reply him with hachiman x yui moments if you are capable of reading. And he made a claim that anime is doing a bad job and took the manga as reference to make another claim that these scenes are how it should have been. But I am telling them that manga is not the canon source, oregairu have many manga adaptations, the one OP mentioned is monologue, there is another called @comic, and both of them have different depiction of same scenes many times. So it's stupid to use manga as reference to shit on anime. If you are that stupid to comprehend something that simple then I can't do anything about. Just stop whining.flamebc said: Holy shit I can feel my brain cells dissipating out of thin air again. What a reach. You'd bring gymnastics to shame as to how you're really stretching your argument to fit this discussion.ToraiS said: flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. Again, for the fifth time now, if you have concerns about how the manga is biased to Yuigahama, or it's not an accurate adaptation to the LN, make your own thread. This is a thread about Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) thread. Read the title please. Arguing about why it's "wrong" to prefer the manga (when it comes to Yui x Hachiman scenes) is pretty useless because it's heavily in the realm of subjectivity. Face it, people prefer chocolate, people prefer pistachio; only elitists say that vanilla is the only subjective truth and that any iterations of it are only fakes. Ah, another can of worms. But I implore you to actually stay in topic for once: What is your favorite 8man x Yui scene? |
Aug 19, 2020 11:53 AM
#30
flamebc said: ToraiS said: Dude, you are literally crying for no reason. OP is not asking people to reply him with hachiman x yui moments if you are capable of reading. And he made a claim that anime is doing a bad job and took the manga as reference to make another claim that these scenes are how it should have been. But I am telling them that manga is not the canon source, oregairu have many manga adaptations, the one OP mentioned is monologue, there is another called @comic, and both of them have different depiction of same scenes many times. So it's stupid to use manga as reference to shit on anime. If you are that stupid to comprehend something that simple then I can't do anything about. Just stop whining.flamebc said: ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that manga is better than anime and is giving comparison of scenes and is disappointed why anime is not like that and is whining about it. But in fact the interpretation in manga is from mangaka himself and he adds scenes from his part to make them look better for yui. So OP have no right to whine about it because anime is using LN as the source material, not the manga, like it has always been. It's totally related to topic.flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. Again, for the fifth time now, if you have concerns about how the manga is biased to Yuigahama, or it's not an accurate adaptation to the LN, make your own thread. This is a thread about Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) thread. Read the title please. Arguing about why it's "wrong" to prefer the manga (when it comes to Yui x Hachiman scenes) is pretty useless because it's heavily in the realm of subjectivity. Face it, people prefer chocolate, people prefer pistachio; only elitists say that vanilla is the only subjective truth and that any iterations of it are only fakes. Ah, another can of worms. But I implore you to actually stay in topic for once: What is your favorite 8man x Yui scene? Dude stop projecting. Literally this thread was born because the OP wanted to recount Yui moments in the manga from ep 1 to 6. The thread is not about if the manga is a valid source or not. In fact, he just simply prefers the way the manga deals with Yui x Hachiman moments, which is not inherently wrong and not open to discussion unless you want a subjectivity shitfest. How hard is it that to comprehend? If you want to say that the manga is a shit adaption go ahead-- but go on a different thread or make your own. That's the sixth time in the row now. |
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Aug 19, 2020 11:58 AM
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ToraiS said: guess what, nevermind. One way in and one way out.flamebc said: ToraiS said: flamebc said: Holy shit I can feel my brain cells dissipating out of thin air again. What a reach. You'd bring gymnastics to shame as to how you're really stretching your argument to fit this discussion.ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that manga is better than anime and is giving comparison of scenes and is disappointed why anime is not like that and is whining about it. But in fact the interpretation in manga is from mangaka himself and he adds scenes from his part to make them look better for yui. So OP have no right to whine about it because anime is using LN as the source material, not the manga, like it has always been. It's totally related to topic.flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. Again, for the fifth time now, if you have concerns about how the manga is biased to Yuigahama, or it's not an accurate adaptation to the LN, make your own thread. This is a thread about Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) thread. Read the title please. Arguing about why it's "wrong" to prefer the manga (when it comes to Yui x Hachiman scenes) is pretty useless because it's heavily in the realm of subjectivity. Face it, people prefer chocolate, people prefer pistachio; only elitists say that vanilla is the only subjective truth and that any iterations of it are only fakes. Ah, another can of worms. But I implore you to actually stay in topic for once: What is your favorite 8man x Yui scene? Dude stop projecting. Literally this thread was born because the OP wanted to recount Yui moments in the manga from ep 1 to 6. The thread is not about if the manga is a valid source or not. In fact, he just simply prefers the way the manga deals with Yui x Hachiman moments, which is not inherently wrong and not open to discussion unless you want a subjectivity shitfest. How hard is it that to comprehend? If you want to say that the manga is a shit adaption go ahead-- but go on a different thread or make your own. That's the sixth time in the row now. |
Aug 20, 2020 12:31 AM
#32
| Well, I'll give some insights about scenes in this post as LN reader which judging from what I'm reading people are creating misunderstanding about what some of them really mean: -Beginning with the Second Image: Hachiman don't make the selfie as lockscreen, he locked the selfie with a password in gallery. On LN everything since Yui putting effects in the photo until Hachiman locking this with password represent respectively the facade that they put in front of each other and Hachiman locking away/tossing aside his moment with Yui. -Third Image: Hachiman is thinking about this after Yui remembering him about Homemade things, but soon after he thinks about Komachi, don't know why this scene is referecing to Yui in manga but on LN this scene doesn't seems to have any connection with her, but yui trying to remember him about that is not something wrong because she have a bad habit to try win Hachiman with nostalgic moments and memories that she thinks that is special, she do this everytime since S1. -Fourth image: Hachiman don't run because Yui tears, it's really because Yukino that he is running but during his way when he remember about Yui tears he is concerned about if its okay to leave his confort zone, to step forward and leave his "drunk" state because the time he leave it he will see the cold reality that awaits for him. This is really meaningful because of the way that Hachiman sees Yui. How Hachiman see Yui: Hachiman see Yui as a way to escape from reality, to indulge in a "magical dream" because of fear of losing Yukino, so Yui provides him a way to deny the reality crumbling in front of him and acting normal and not only this but as a trade-off he out of guilty, masked as "correctness", just fulfill her whims, he is pretty mean in this case but Yui is aware of it and goes along with it so she demands some selfish things from him This moment which Hachiman is running and thinking about Yui tears is him being self-aware and not wanting to step out of this "magical dream" to face the truth and cruel reality which is the end of the club and consequently his connection with Yukino. That's why the tears from Yui haunt him, because of his self awareness trying to push him to his confort zone, to be "drunk" again, but his feelings are more stronger than his self awareness then he don't stop running and says "I can’t afford to be wrong anymore." in his interlude. -Fifth image: The moment which Hachiman calls Yuigahama for the dummy prom activities. I don't remember which moment in specific it's happen but this happen because Yui always complain about hachiman not calling her out directly and, then, here he is, fulfilling her whim again -Sixty Image: Yui worried about hachiman's method. Well here you can interpret the way you want, if you think she is worried or if you think there's something behind this, it's up to your interpretation. I will only hint one thing, Yuigahama is seen during all the series as a replica, a perfect and ideal replica so it's good to consider it here. None of these facts are new to S3, most of it already happen since S1. And the objective of S3 is literally toss it in your face since the focus is Hachiman feelings, actions and why he do this. Well, this is the explanation for most of these image, i've jumped the first one because I didn't remember when this happened so I can't give a explanation without reading the exactly part to refresh my memory and I won't give some biased explanation or try to justify it with fake information since i'm stating it with neutrality. PS: Monologue manga is an unofficial manga then some contexts can change according to mangaka and his interpretation. the "Comic" manga is considered official. |
KamiKuroShiroAug 20, 2020 1:01 AM
Aug 20, 2020 3:20 AM
#33
KamiKuroShiro said: both are official mang, and yeah these manga are interpretations of the manga artist, there are some differences in the LNWell, I'll give some insights about scenes in this post as LN reader which judging from what I'm reading people are creating misunderstanding about what some of them really mean: -Beginning with the Second Image: Hachiman don't make the selfie as lockscreen, he locked the selfie with a password in gallery. On LN everything since Yui putting effects in the photo until Hachiman locking this with password represent respectively the facade that they put in front of each other and Hachiman locking away/tossing aside his moment with Yui. -Third Image: Hachiman is thinking about this after Yui remembering him about Homemade things, but soon after he thinks about Komachi, don't know why this scene is referecing to Yui in manga but on LN this scene doesn't seems to have any connection with her, but yui trying to remember him about that is not something wrong because she have a bad habit to try win Hachiman with nostalgic moments and memories that she thinks that is special, she do this everytime since S1. -Fourth image: Hachiman don't run because Yui tears, it's really because Yukino that he is running but during his way when he remember about Yui tears he is concerned about if its okay to leave his confort zone, to step forward and leave his "drunk" state because the time he leave it he will see the cold reality that awaits for him. This is really meaningful because of the way that Hachiman sees Yui. How Hachiman see Yui: Hachiman see Yui as a way to escape from reality, to indulge in a "magical dream" because of fear of losing Yukino, so Yui provides him a way to deny the reality crumbling in front of him and acting normal and not only this but as a trade-off he out of guilty, masked as "correctness", just fulfill her whims, he is pretty mean in this case but Yui is aware of it and goes along with it so she demands some selfish things from him This moment which Hachiman is running and thinking about Yui tears is him being self-aware and not wanting to step out of this "magical dream" to face the truth and cruel reality which is the end of the club and consequently his connection with Yukino. That's why the tears from Yui haunt him, because of his self awareness trying to push him to his confort zone, to be "drunk" again, but his feelings are more stronger than his self awareness then he don't stop running and says "I can’t afford to be wrong anymore." in his interlude. -Fifth image: The moment which Hachiman calls Yuigahama for the dummy prom activities. I don't remember which moment in specific it's happen but this happen because Yui always complain about hachiman not calling her out directly and, then, here he is, fulfilling her whim again -Sixty Image: Yui worried about hachiman's method. Well here you can interpret the way you want, if you think she is worried or if you think there's something behind this, it's up to your interpretation. I will only hint one thing, Yuigahama is seen during all the series as a replica, a perfect and ideal replica so it's good to consider it here. None of these facts are new to S3, most of it already happen since S1. And the objective of S3 is literally toss it in your face since the focus is Hachiman feelings, actions and why he do this. Well, this is the explanation for most of these image, i've jumped the first one because I didn't remember when this happened so I can't give a explanation without reading the exactly part to refresh my memory and I won't give some biased explanation or try to justify it with fake information since i'm stating it with neutrality. PS: Monologue manga is an unofficial manga then some contexts can change according to mangaka and his interpretation. the "Comic" manga is considered official. |
Aug 20, 2020 12:07 PM
#34
| Well, I'm not that far into the source material, but from what I've read anime have always skipped a ton of content while adaptating the source material |
Aug 20, 2020 12:49 PM
#35
| Misleading thread, but whatever. Don't confuse poor anime onlies, Read the LN, the original source! |
Aug 20, 2020 5:01 PM
#36
NakolHira said: Yeah, you can use the manga as a reference when you finish the LN and know the difference. If not, it would be misleading like thisMisleading thread, but whatever. Don't confuse poor anime onlies, Read the LN, the original source! |
Sep 3, 2020 12:09 AM
#37
ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: flamebc said: Holy shit I can feel my brain cells dissipating out of thin air again. What a reach. You'd bring gymnastics to shame as to how you're really stretching your argument to fit this discussion.ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that manga is better than anime and is giving comparison of scenes and is disappointed why anime is not like that and is whining about it. But in fact the interpretation in manga is from mangaka himself and he adds scenes from his part to make them look better for yui. So OP have no right to whine about it because anime is using LN as the source material, not the manga, like it has always been. It's totally related to topic.flamebc said: Project that I'm mad because "u criticize muh yui too much" all you want, but the objective truth is that this is no place to discuss the manga's credibility as a source. OP is just saying the anime did not really display a good chunk of Yui-Hachiman moments in the manga. Where did the OP say that the manga is the truest adaption of Oregairu? The thread is literally asking for Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) that you might have missed, not arguments about it's accuracy because that's for another thread. ToraiS said: flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. ToraiS said: OP is literally saying that the anime is not quite good as compared to manga and is trying to tell people how the actual scenes looked. Except,they are not the actual scenes at all,if you want to give insight then use the actual canon source, which is LN. When you make a post you open up yourself to all type of discussions and critiscms. Don't whine.flamebc said: ToraiS said: the problem with your post is that you are trying to use manga as canon. When it's not. It's not the original source material and a lot of scenes are added by mangaka himself, who have a bias towards yuigahama and skipped a lot of important yukino moments from adapting in managa. One example is where he adds a frame of hachiman thinking of himself and yui married when it's not in the LN at all. And skipping yukino moments like One of them being yukino crying in the iroha's interlude. And hachiman had a huge ass monologue about why he went for yukino and in the LN he admits that his feet didn't stop despite him feeling about yui crying.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Whoa, just being frank man, no need to be so crude. I didn't even say anyone was dissing anybody, I was just talking about the adaptation and it did what it could with what time it had, I may have made ONE statement comparing to Yukino, sheesh. Umm, so alright, only Yui moments, anime gave 1-6 eps which was her time to shine, any more and it'll destroy the story, there, nothing else, simple as that.A_G_N said: Holy shit you are so unbelievably dense to the point that I can feel a few of my brain cells fry out of thin air.ToraiS said: I'm pretty sure I was giving the reason to why "Yui" scenes weren't adapted, can't discuss Yui without the main characters can I..A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Umm, the OP clearly stated discussion but with no spoilers beyond anime. I'm pretty sure that means discussion.A_G_N said: ToraiS said: Just stating facts bro, I'm just giving the reason why her scenes weren't adapted, Yui's isn't a bad character or anything, but all her scenes were given leverage by nerfing a certain other character's. If more her scenes are adpated, then the anime would essentially lose its story, and become a bad adaptation, more than it already is.A_G_N said: Damnn, that was the 5% of yui skipped content in the anime, compared to 50% of yukini scenes which made yukino best girl, this ain't nothing compared.. and I'm talking about all seasons. Yui got the best adaptation so far. Bruh, this is a Yui moments skip thread. Why not go make your own? Supporting Yui doesn't mean that we're comparing it to Yukinoshita. Facts or not, this discussion doesn't belong in this thread. The title literally states Yui Moments. Which means, surprise surprise, we're going to discuss about Yui moments in this thread. Like I said, if you want to discuss cut content of Yukinoshita then it's fine but go make your own thread dude because discussing it here is clearly not appropriate. You don't go to a wine convention to discuss about beer, do you? And if the beer and wine were producd by the same person, then yes, I'll discuss the beer too..XD How hard is it for you to comprehend that this thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments? Hello? Knock knock? A little bit of reading comprehension please? No one is dissing Yukinoshita in this thread as far as I know of. Why would you even bring her up in this thread, specifically discussing Yui moments? Unless you enjoy being a magnanimous prick about people enjoying shit. No fun allowed, eh? Just make your own thread man, so you can discuss about cut content for Yukinoshita. Again for the third time, just in case you don't get it. This thread is for specifically discussing Yui moments. Literally costs nothing and doesn't over-complicate things by straying away from discussions. And I'm just being honest too. Your responses are much more cruder than mine if it literally makes me want to roll my eyes so hard it'll pop out of my eye-socket. Taking 7 posts to get the point is a feat of density. I applaud. But since you're here; why not share your favorite Yui moment, hmm? The problem with your post is that it doesn't fit the scope of this thread. Where did I or the OP say that the manga is canon? Where did I argue about the validity of the manga? That the anime is an "accurate" adaption? I'd be inclined to argue but It'd be opening an unwarranted can of worms when there aren't fish to catch in the first place. For the fourth time now, make your own thread. This is a Yui moments discussion thread. Not a "Yui Bias in Manga and Anime Adaption?" thread. Jesus christ, reading comprehension please. You don't fish in the river expecting to get tuna else you'd be dumb and make another person argue about semantics, rather than actually discussing the thread topic. Again, for the fifth time now, if you have concerns about how the manga is biased to Yuigahama, or it's not an accurate adaptation to the LN, make your own thread. This is a thread about Yui x Hachiman moments (in the manga) thread. Read the title please. Arguing about why it's "wrong" to prefer the manga (when it comes to Yui x Hachiman scenes) is pretty useless because it's heavily in the realm of subjectivity. Face it, people prefer chocolate, people prefer pistachio; only elitists say that vanilla is the only subjective truth and that any iterations of it are only fakes. Ah, another can of worms. But I implore you to actually stay in topic for once: What is your favorite 8man x Yui scene? Dude stop projecting. Literally this thread was born because the OP wanted to recount Yui moments in the manga from ep 1 to 6. The thread is not about if the manga is a valid source or not. In fact, he just simply prefers the way the manga deals with Yui x Hachiman moments, which is not inherently wrong and not open to discussion unless you want a subjectivity shitfest. How hard is it that to comprehend? If you want to say that the manga is a shit adaption go ahead-- but go on a different thread or make your own. That's the sixth time in the row now. Dont bother wasting your time on thick skulled people. It doesnt take a normal person 6 tries to get it. Anyway my favorite yui moment is definitely s3e4 when yui stoped her crying so she can let Hachiman go help yukino. And then she cried alone in the alley. It literally broke my heart. S3e6 when Yui made hachiman ate the tomato, and she had the cutest smile watching him ate the tomato he hated. Also The fake sleep scene was very bittersweet as she doing her very best to spent every moment with him. Seeing such a sweet girl suffer really really hurt... TeamYui all the way! I love this girl, and she have my support since S1e1. |
Sep 3, 2020 5:21 AM
#38
 It is not really possible to include all LN content in 12 episodes... I think feel studio worked well and both characters were well covered until episode 8. --- Anyway, it would be great to have more episodes, and more content to be adapted. But these things require more budget and time. 😕🙁 |
Sep 3, 2020 8:22 AM
#39
| Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. |
Sep 3, 2020 12:19 PM
#40
return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. |
Sep 3, 2020 1:14 PM
#41
YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? |
Sep 3, 2020 1:58 PM
#42
nozomi-hd said: It is not really possible to include all LN content in 12 episodes... I think feel studio worked well and both characters were well covered until episode 8. --- Anyway, it would be great to have more episodes, and more content to be adapted. But these things require more budget and time. 😕🙁 Then they will need give yukino proper screen time But no Yukino is the one whose screen cut too much in this season And hachiman's some major screen are cut I know rap screen was amazing But they need care about main heroine's proper screen time That's the thing is the problem |
Sep 3, 2020 2:14 PM
#43
return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) |
Sep 3, 2020 2:24 PM
#44
Abhinandan2002 said: nozomi-hd said: It is not really possible to include all LN content in 12 episodes... I think feel studio worked well and both characters were well covered until episode 8. --- Anyway, it would be great to have more episodes, and more content to be adapted. But these things require more budget and time. 😕🙁 Then they will need give yukino proper screen time But no Yukino is the one whose screen cut too much in this season And hachiman's some major screen are cut I know rap screen was amazing But they need care about main heroine's proper screen time That's the thing is the problem Maybe you're right. But for 12 episodes, feel studio did a good job. After 5 years of waiting, I am satisfied. Although it could have been better if... |
Sep 3, 2020 2:54 PM
#45
nozomi-hd said: Abhinandan2002 said: nozomi-hd said: It is not really possible to include all LN content in 12 episodes... I think feel studio worked well and both characters were well covered until episode 8. --- Anyway, it would be great to have more episodes, and more content to be adapted. But these things require more budget and time. 😕🙁 Then they will need give yukino proper screen time But no Yukino is the one whose screen cut too much in this season And hachiman's some major screen are cut I know rap screen was amazing But they need care about main heroine's proper screen time That's the thing is the problem Maybe you're right. But for 12 episodes, feel studio did a good job. After 5 years of waiting, I am satisfied. Although it could have been better if... Right I hope studio do that But I had feeling in my mind that if studio cuts hachiman and yukino some monments in ending I have this feeling because they cut in so many screen of yukino in this season In episode 1-9 Who know what studio did in 10-12 |
Sep 3, 2020 3:04 PM
#46
YYGH said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) Always wondered why no one can understand her reasoning and actions but then I realized this probably isn't the series for you if you can reason with Yui more. Most of these fans are heavy Hachiman realtors and Yukino is written to be Hachimans ideal cuz shes the main heroine so of course they would adore her and wouldn't understand the seemingly 'popular happy' girl that's getting 'in between them' because those are the type of people they despise the most (Just like how the author hates nice girls) so that bias of hate will just stay there throughout the series. I guess the more perfect and unrealistic a character is made out to be the more these fans can fantasize about it I guess that's why it's fiction. |
Sep 3, 2020 3:27 PM
#47
return30223 said: it's your fault if you can't see the beauty that hachiman and yukino are as a character and are blinded by your waifu bias and keeps claiming that "yui best characterrrr!!" even when all of her character can be summed up in "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". There are way more layers to hachiman and yukino's character in comparison to yui, their Character don't revolve around the single theme and their development is way more dynamic as both of them started as social outcasts with issues but learned how to adapt to society slowly and found solace in each other's company, they have more to their backstory, yukino's Character is backed up by many side-characters and their arcs ties with hers. Haruno, hayama, miura, yukino's mom etc are character's for yukino's sake purely. And you are way too fast to judge them as unrealistic, there are people who can relate with how yukino feels empty, or how she was bullied because people were jealous of her, and her constantly being compared to her sister. So yeah, it's cool and all that you like yui but don't act smug about it. Because that's the last thing you should do.YYGH said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) Always wondered why no one can understand her reasoning and actions but then I realized this probably isn't the series for you if you can reason with Yui more. Most of these fans are heavy Hachiman realtors and Yukino is written to be Hachimans ideal cuz shes the main heroine so of course they would adore her and wouldn't understand the seemingly 'popular happy' girl that's getting 'in between them' because those are the type of people they despise the most (Just like how the author hates nice girls) so that bias of hate will just stay there throughout the series. I guess the more perfect and unrealistic a character is made out to be the more these fans can fantasize about it I guess that's why it's fiction. |
Sep 3, 2020 3:51 PM
#48
flamebc said: return30223 said: it's your fault if you can't see the beauty that hachiman and yukino are as a character and are blinded by your waifu bias and keeps claiming that "yui best characterrrr!!" even when all of her character can be summed up in "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". There are way more layers to hachiman and yukino's character in comparison to yui, their Character don't revolve around the single theme and their development is way more dynamic as both of them started as social outcasts with issues but learned how to adapt to society slowly and found solace in each other's company, they have more to their backstory, yukino's Character is backed up by many side-characters and their arcs ties with hers. Haruno, hayama, miura, yukino's mom etc are character's for yukino's sake purely. And you are way too fast to judge them as unrealistic, there are people who can relate with how yukino feels empty, or how she was bullied because people were jealous of her, and her constantly being compared to her sister. So yeah, it's cool and all that you like yui but don't act smug about it. Because that's the last thing you should do.YYGH said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) Always wondered why no one can understand her reasoning and actions but then I realized this probably isn't the series for you if you can reason with Yui more. Most of these fans are heavy Hachiman realtors and Yukino is written to be Hachimans ideal cuz shes the main heroine so of course they would adore her and wouldn't understand the seemingly 'popular happy' girl that's getting 'in between them' because those are the type of people they despise the most (Just like how the author hates nice girls) so that bias of hate will just stay there throughout the series. I guess the more perfect and unrealistic a character is made out to be the more these fans can fantasize about it I guess that's why it's fiction. Your opinions are yours and my opinions are mine. I could care less about a damn waifu bias LOL it's a fictional series I don't get obsessed over characters like you guys I just point out what I feel is the best in my opinion. All i'm saying is I like her character better and can relate to it just like you cant understand why Yui's character is so good I cant undersrtand why Yukino's character is so good. You exaclty just proved what I said earlier how you wouldnt understand. I dont relate to Yukino at all and find her struggles unrelatable and unrealistic its like I said this series isnt meant for a person why understands Yui more. I cant relate to people getting jealous of a pretty girl because all the ones i've never met have been like that and I just can't relate to all her family problems at all because I've always kept family issues away from personal life so it's not realistic to me. Just like you just think Yuis character is just "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". May be to you but dont go and try to bash me for not feeling the same way lol... |
Sep 3, 2020 3:55 PM
#49
return30223 said: you were the one who were bashing people for preferring yukino though. I only corrected you. And from writing standpoint I already gave reasons why yukino is a better Character. Though you can relate with yui then that's cool and all so you can like her.flamebc said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) Always wondered why no one can understand her reasoning and actions but then I realized this probably isn't the series for you if you can reason with Yui more. Most of these fans are heavy Hachiman realtors and Yukino is written to be Hachimans ideal cuz shes the main heroine so of course they would adore her and wouldn't understand the seemingly 'popular happy' girl that's getting 'in between them' because those are the type of people they despise the most (Just like how the author hates nice girls) so that bias of hate will just stay there throughout the series. I guess the more perfect and unrealistic a character is made out to be the more these fans can fantasize about it I guess that's why it's fiction. Your opinions are yours and my opinions are mine. I could care less about a damn waifu bias LOL it's a fictional series I don't get obsessed over characters like you guys I just point out what I feel is the best in my opinion. All i'm saying is I like her character better and can relate to it just like you cant understand why Yui's character is so good I cant undersrtand why Yukino's character is so good. You exaclty just proved what I said earlier how you wouldnt understand. I dont relate to Yukino at all and find her struggles unrelatable and unrealistic its like I said this series isnt meant for a person why understands Yui more. I cant relate to people getting jealous of a pretty girl because all the ones i've never met have been like that and I just can't relate to all her family problems at all because I've always kept family issues away from personal life so it's not realistic to me. Just like you just think Yuis character is just "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". May be to you but dont go and try to bash me for not feeling the same way lol... |
Sep 3, 2020 4:01 PM
#50
flamebc said: return30223 said: you were the one who were bashing people for preferring yukino though. I only corrected you. And from writing standpoint I already gave reasons why yukino is a better Character. Though you can relate with yui then that's cool and all so you can like her.flamebc said: return30223 said: it's your fault if you can't see the beauty that hachiman and yukino are as a character and are blinded by your waifu bias and keeps claiming that "yui best characterrrr!!" even when all of her character can be summed up in "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". There are way more layers to hachiman and yukino's character in comparison to yui, their Character don't revolve around the single theme and their development is way more dynamic as both of them started as social outcasts with issues but learned how to adapt to society slowly and found solace in each other's company, they have more to their backstory, yukino's Character is backed up by many side-characters and their arcs ties with hers. Haruno, hayama, miura, yukino's mom etc are character's for yukino's sake purely. And you are way too fast to judge them as unrealistic, there are people who can relate with how yukino feels empty, or how she was bullied because people were jealous of her, and her constantly being compared to her sister. So yeah, it's cool and all that you like yui but don't act smug about it. Because that's the last thing you should do.YYGH said: return30223 said: YYGH said: return30223 said: Could care less about Yui x Hachiman scenes. Every scene I see makes me think why Yui even wants this dense head so much (even though he saved her dog and is a good guy). But Yui definitely is the best character of the series. Nothing of her experiences feel fabricated like the others and her self conflict and emotions are so great. Someone who goes from just accepting and acting for what other people want and not herself since a kid to the point where it's just the norm. To finally being able to think for herself and what she wants but the conflict is catching up with her inside is something all too familiar. If it wasn't for her personality and presence in the club it definitely would have fallen apart after an early fallout with Yukino and Hachiman and never recovered. I think it's because Yui fell in love with the Hachiman in S1 when he first save her dog. Also Hachiman in S1 was amazingly cool. His edgy persona is unique and I guess that is what attracted Yui to him. The Hachiman in S2 and S3 is quite disappointing imo. I agreed Yui is the best character in this show. Her self conflict and emotions are what make her the most genuine character, and that is exactly what Hachiman is looking for. Although she is selfish, it shows she is a human and she doing her very best to keep the club and their trio relationship together, she's beyond amazing. As I said before, she is the bridge and an important character to the show. I find it funny how a lot of Light Novel readers keep bringing that same argument as if it would make people hate her character. It's not the actions of her character that make her the best it's her conflict, experiences and emotions that make her character so interesting and relatable. And i'm happy she started to become selfish in the end because that's the push she needed as a character. Her whole life all she has been doing is following what others wanted and never thought for herself, now she is learning to to think for herself and fight for what she truly wants. Despite that she has the self conflict because she doesn't want to do that because she cares for the other two so much. Like when she tried to give Yukino the chance to share her feelings at the end of s2 but Yukino couldn't capitalize (Not Yui's fault). What i'm saying is Yui gave the chances to make it fair initially and it wasn't her fault that Yukino was too weak to capitalize and tried to give it all away to her. What did people want Yui to do? Be the sacrificial second main girl in every other rom com and hand it all back to Yukino on a silver plate? Yui knew she had little to no chance either way and had to take every opportunity she could get because if she didn't she would be left with nothing. At the end of the day everyone will act in their best interest (Two of them will value a relationship better than staying all as friends in the end) so why not act in your own best interest? I agreed! Yui have the best character development. Her conflict, experiences, and emotions are easily relatable. I'm just as happy as you are when she starts to confront problems on her own, its always been her weakness back then. She's been the adaptable type of person and always try to blend into any group even by sacrificing herself to please others. She's just a sweet girl who cares alot for people, and especially for Hachiman and Yukino. That specific scene made me thought that Yui was very brave to bring up their problems with their relationship. Its not her fault that Yukino didn't capitalize her feeling. Yui have already sacrifice so much just to keep things from not breaking. Yui have been the underdog from the start, and her struggle throughout the series makes me like and appreciate her character more and more. Hachiman is just a baka for not realizing such a sweet girl is always by his side and supporting through anything. Hachiman reminds of Subara when Rem is always there for him... Yukino = Emilia / Yui = Rem. :) Always wondered why no one can understand her reasoning and actions but then I realized this probably isn't the series for you if you can reason with Yui more. Most of these fans are heavy Hachiman realtors and Yukino is written to be Hachimans ideal cuz shes the main heroine so of course they would adore her and wouldn't understand the seemingly 'popular happy' girl that's getting 'in between them' because those are the type of people they despise the most (Just like how the author hates nice girls) so that bias of hate will just stay there throughout the series. I guess the more perfect and unrealistic a character is made out to be the more these fans can fantasize about it I guess that's why it's fiction. Your opinions are yours and my opinions are mine. I could care less about a damn waifu bias LOL it's a fictional series I don't get obsessed over characters like you guys I just point out what I feel is the best in my opinion. All i'm saying is I like her character better and can relate to it just like you cant understand why Yui's character is so good I cant undersrtand why Yukino's character is so good. You exaclty just proved what I said earlier how you wouldnt understand. I dont relate to Yukino at all and find her struggles unrelatable and unrealistic its like I said this series isnt meant for a person why understands Yui more. I cant relate to people getting jealous of a pretty girl because all the ones i've never met have been like that and I just can't relate to all her family problems at all because I've always kept family issues away from personal life so it's not realistic to me. Just like you just think Yuis character is just "I want hachiman as boyfriend and yukino as bestfriend". May be to you but dont go and try to bash me for not feeling the same way lol... Buddy I wasnt bashing even I just said I dont understand why. Did I say Yukino fans are dumb or anything? All I said was that I couldnt understand why from my perspective because my perspective of course favours Yui just like yours favours Yukino. If were gunna talk about bashing theres no discussion honestly, I dont know if you do but most Yukino fans be bashing people who have a different opinion all day lol.. Theres no need to feel offended, lets just leave it at that |
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