| I'm kind of surprised by Diabolik Lovers being mentioned. An anime in which all the male characters are straight up psychopaths with the only morally good character being the female MC. I'll think if anything, the opposite accusation of it being misandrist would show up. It's not even like Diabolik Lovers is pretending that these characters are even morally grey, they go full out. One of the guys is literally like: "YoU SeE tHeSe LiFe siZe DoLLS, thOsE ArE mY FoRmEr vIcItms. YoU'Re NexT!" Another is like: "Killing = Love :). Btw, I have an incestual love for my mother too!" How would anyone get the impression these characters weren't anything, but over the top supervillains whose actions and thoughts are looked down upon by the show. You and the person who argued for Death Note being sexist made the best cases imo. @zieek misogyny isn't simply bad things happening to a female character. It's that female character being looked down on due to their status as a woman. |
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| A lot of anime sure objectifies their female cast in a more bodily fashion. That doesn't make them misogynistic, however, it certainly doesn't dissuade such an interpretation in the least. Often it pushes towards such a worldview more than it does the opposite, so such content is still not worth condoning on the 'merit' that it's not an outright hatred of women that's driving the content. |
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| Shield Hero, this anime clearly defend a man and bash women for being sexually attacked.. |
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| Outside of hentai, I can't think of many - Death Note and maybe part 1 of JoJo. Most anime I've seen have dominant and assertive females and weak and submissive males. |
| This Chinese anime likely qualifies as such. I've yet to finish it but there's likely more where that came from |
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bitchassdarius said: probably that would have to be cardfight vanguard Can you at least explain the reasons ?? A lot of people listing anime without give any reason to why it is Misogyny |
Because Aqua is treated like shit ?? I don't think it has anything to do with gender. Aqua is stupid and she deserves it sometimes I know JoJo part 1 because of Dio (even though Dio treats everyone like shit including males who oppose him) I did watch Death note long time ago but I don't remember anything misogynistic. |
thepathJun 9, 2020 7:27 AM
thepath said: Because Aqua is treated like shit ?? I don't think it has anything to do with gender. Aqua is stupid and she deserves it sometimes I know JoJo part 1 because of Dio (even though Dio treats everyone like shit including males who oppose him) I did watch Death note long time ago but I don't remember anything misogynistic. For Death Note: |
| No Game No Life, easily. It feels like half of what Sora does is creep on/molest girls, and the show just treats it as "ha ha, funny times". I would have said Maid-sama for the same reason, but it treats guys almost as bad as girls. |
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| Ookami shoujo to kuro ouji. Erika is basically in an abusive relationship but she likes it because the guy is hot. |
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| Hokuto no ken's Rei; he's awfully sexist for a protoganist |
| diabolik lovers + okami Shojo to Kuro oji for real |
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| The Rapeman. With that name what else can you expect lol. |
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Energetic-Nova said: Death Note the most misogynistic anime I have ever seen. The women are pawns. Fanservice. No women in Death Note rise above. All the women are foolish and all the men are super geniuses. Not even Dragon Ball managed to be so bad about it. I also think I Me My Strawberry Eggs is sexist. It tries to make comments about gender that are just... ug. And if I were to pick one where the sexism is not really obvious Oremonogatari and Love Live would be good contenders. I think by comparison, stuff like Diabolik Lovers is harmless when you compare it to the likes of Oremonogatari. Diabolik Lovers is more about a preditor-prey thing they aren't human. if anything, speciesist. whatever. Diabolik Lovers is built on the premise of powerplay. I pass it off as a submissive sex fantasy. Where Oremonogatari isn't that. It is very submissive. Very demure girl. very much exactly perfect girl. Thats bullshit. Everyone apart from Light and L (and later Near to an extent) is dumb in Death Note, its not just the women. Not to mention there is basically no fanservice in it Ridiculous pick, sometimes "feminists" are just silly |
Darklord_bg said: thepath said: Because Aqua is treated like shit ?? I don't think it has anything to do with gender. Aqua is stupid and she deserves it sometimes I know JoJo part 1 because of Dio (even though Dio treats everyone like shit including males who oppose him) I did watch Death note long time ago but I don't remember anything misogynistic. For Death Note: Nothing to do with women in particular..Light used everyone as tools and disposed of them when they were not needed. People just see "sexism" everywhere these days |
| World's End Harem when the anime will air. Seriously, just read the fucking premise. (Although it's more objectifying rather than really misogynistic) |
| pretty most otaku pandering anime is inherently misogynistic lol, at least to western standards |
| Probably ecchi stuff, I guess I've never watched an anime decried as misogynistic (by my own standards ofc), so... |
caprisan said: I haven't seen either of those (will change it soon), but I wonder that both are based on Shoujo manga/VN. That seems to be self-contradictory. Is it male misconception and lack of understanding, or do females agree with these picks?diabolik lovers + okami Shojo to Kuro oji for real EDIT: Checked ratings from my friend list, and indeed the (unfortunately few) verified women there rate both a lot higher than the males. |
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| Naruto definitely, there is literally no female character in Naruto who is well represented while the male characters of Naruto are excellent (Shikamaru, Naruto, Sasuke, Pain) In the trio Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura. Sakura is the most useless and, it is extremely badly used. In the PAIN trio, Konan is the most useless and the weakest. We have very little information on it while the other two, yes. And I also have the impression that Masashi Kishimoto purposely made Sakura a hateful character We will not talk about Tenten and Ino, who are also the worst characters in their group :) |
BedwinJun 9, 2020 11:55 AM
| Reado of a Healer (once it's animated) is the dictionary definition of misogynistic |
| 2 Crappy OVAS Wounded Man Blue Flames |
| Well any anime since no anime would survive being made in the west. Just pick any harem or ecchi that has giant tits. Oh and the ones that have a powerful main character and treat the woman like shit. And that is why it is so good. |
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KyouKaiTen said: Don't agree, the form of government in SH is that of an inheritable matriarchy. The anime loves to be controversial, and it doesn't do it very well. Yet, it has some amazingly gray characters along with very cartoonish stereotypical ones. I fail to see an overall misogynist message. Shield Hero, this anime clearly defend a man and bash women for being sexually attacked.. |
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zieek said: Dawson_Armstrong said: I don't think Goblin Slayer can be classed as misogynistic. Sure you are right about the first few things you said. But the goblins simply kill the men not even being that cruel or sadistic. While the human females are not simply raped for the sake of childbirth. They are tortured, maimed, have their limbs broken or amputated, the goblins do this because it excited them. Or at the very least, because they simply enjoy inflicting pain specifically to women, isn't that misogynistic No it isn't because goblins are evil monster males and they will be cruel to women for there pleasure it is how society works no link with misogyny |
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| I have no idea if these two obscure OVAs have been mentioned in the thread before, but they are the most sexist pieces of shit I have watched out of hundreds of anime: Kizuoibito and Aoki Honoo: Both of these stinking piles of garbage paint rapists as badass and cool. The victims they rape, while horrified during their assault, eventually fall in love with their rapist. The entire anime has a very misogynistic depiction of women. At the end, the rapists get away with everything. Edit: Never mind, someone else had the misfortune of watching both of these festering rotting boils. My condolences. |
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| This old anime called MOUSE, and it's mysoginistic on a disturbing level. basically the females in that anime were forced to live in the same house and basically have sex with MC because he's a secret agent, every action they make is for him. , and they basically do not have any will of their own, their life's purpose is to have sex, wear skimpy outfits, and serve their master, what makes it worse is that the show portrays it as completely okay.this one girl had a fear of men but then she completely overcomes that fear by watching the mc have sex with another servant girl outside on a fucking school campus. |
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ysphyr said: I found out they actually have a reverse harem version of it, so this franchise has a pass from me. They made a very nice move. That doesn't mean anything. First, given the setting, a reverse harem couldn't possibly work similarly. Second, the problem remains the same: the inherent sexism. Objectifying males isn't better than objectifying females if that's what you're implying. I'll concede that the "spin-off" World's End Harem Fantasia is actually way better in every conceivable way. I'd say even better than most harems. |
_Maneki-Neko_ said: VivavideoUserJP said: This old anime called MOUSE, and it's mysoginistic on a disturbing level. basically the females in that anime were forced to live in the same house and basically have sex with MC because he's a secret agent, every action they make is for him. , and they basically do not have any will of their own, their life's purpose is to have sex, wear skimpy outfits, and serve their master, what makes it worse is that the show portrays it as completely okay.this one girl had a fear of men but then she completely overcomes that fear by watching the mc have sex with another servant girl outside on a fucking school campus. Congratz, you discovered your first hentai ... that's what I wanted to say until I looked it up and it's an ecchi not a hentai. What disturbs me more is that people give a rec for DN Angel and Kaito Kid in the rec section. Why. Just because they are about thieves. I have really nostalgic feelings towards DN Angel, it was my first manga and one of my first internet anime outside of tv. You can't do that. It's still a quite good shoujo ... I imagine that poor soul of a girl that looks up for recs for DN Angel or Kaito Kid and then finds that. xD Anyone can call about anything mysoginistic, I just think that there are many different levels of it ranging from "yeah whatever" to "that's fucked up if you think about", I don't think it automatically makes some fiction bad it's just that the misogyny is a bit more disturbing when you analyze it in MOUSE, since that's the only thing occupying your brain unlike in actual hentai where you don't think about the plot. |
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BurntFlower said: I watched both as well, and what you write is about Wounded Man and true. But Bue Flames? Just a swindler climbing up the social ladder by lying to women. That's just being an asshole, not specific to the gender of his victims. Would work the same way with genders reversed (and is not unheard of in either combination).most sexist pieces of shit I have watched out of hundreds of anime: Kizuoibito and Aoki Honoo: Both of these stinking piles of garbage paint rapists as badass and cool. The victims they rape, while horrified during their assault, eventually fall in love with their rapist. Never mind, someone else had the misfortune of watching both of these festering rotting boils. My condolences. |
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| I think the modern idea of misogyny is overly emphasized by activists and isn't nearly as prominent or as problematic as some people would have you believe. Whenever someone is trying to convince you to support their cause, they'll exaggerate on purpose to try to get others to believe that there's a crisis, and immediate action is required to stop it. It's why old folks over emphasize their fears of the internet having a bad influence on kids, and it's why climate activists have been telling us the world is going to end in 10 years for the last 40 years, and it's why charities to help kids in Africa only show images of extremely impoverished and starving children when in reality Africa is not any worse off than India right now. Is the internet causing school shootings? Probably not, but too much internet is still bad for you. Is life on earth in danger from climate change? Probably not, but we ought to stop poisoning the water we drink. Are kids in Africa dying by the truck loads due to starvation and malaria? Absolutely not, but a little help in the right areas can go a long way and is appreciated. Is there misogyny in the west? Not really, but there are a few asses who hold women in contempt so sure, though I've never met one. Perhaps the place where you'll find the most condescending contempt for women isn't in Anime, but actually in Rap music if I were to be honest. |
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inim said: BurntFlower said: I watched both as well, and what you write is about Wounded Man and true. But Bue Flames? Just a swindler climbing up the social ladder by lying to women. That's just being an asshole, not specific to the gender of his victims. Would work the same way with genders reversed (and is not unheard of in either combination).most sexist pieces of shit I have watched out of hundreds of anime: Kizuoibito and Aoki Honoo: Both of these stinking piles of garbage paint rapists as badass and cool. The victims they rape, while horrified during their assault, eventually fall in love with their rapist. Never mind, someone else had the misfortune of watching both of these festering rotting boils. My condolences. Uh, have you forgotten the rape scenes in Blue Flames? There are at least 3 of them. The worst one starts at minute 37:30. His girlfriend screams, "No...stop! No! Stop it!" as he grabs her forcefully after she pulled a knife on him. Knife clatters to the floor. He pushes her down onto the sofa, pinning her down under his weight as she keeps screaming no. He then rapes her. Of course, she's still in love with him after that, because this is a fucked up anime. |
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Darklord_bg said: thepath said: Because Aqua is treated like shit ?? I don't think it has anything to do with gender. Aqua is stupid and she deserves it sometimes I know JoJo part 1 because of Dio (even though Dio treats everyone like shit including males who oppose him) I did watch Death note long time ago but I don't remember anything misogynistic. For Death Note: Are you really on MAL since '08? I bet that if I went back to that year and asked you the same question as the OP, you would call me insane. |
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Nurguburu said: Surprised that SAO is mentioned but nvm the overrated "SAO is bad" meme is still there. All girls can fight but if they admire or are in love with Kirito has nothing to do with being "misogynistic". Straight or bisexual women in rl do the same for a guy....Maybe you can argue with me that they dont have the best personality or whatever but they're treated as characters. About the question, maybe not misogynistic since I've barely found an anime that falls into that category (and i dont watch hentai) but I found the girls in Death Note so poorly written it makes me laugh (I like Death Note but that part was funny lol). But still, I don't consider anime as misogynistic, ppl just confuse old traditions and straight guys acting like straight guys with misogyny in current days lmao. I think you either have a poor understanding of what misogyny is, or have had the good fortune not to have watched sexist anime, but there are PLENTY that fall under that category. No, no one is saying SAO is sexist because girls fall in love with Kirito. That's just pandering wish-fulfillment. It's irritating to watch, but that's just my personal preference. The real reason why people say SAO is sexist is because of what happens to Asuna in the Fairy arc. Asuna, the main female character, gets trapped in a bird cage for 11 episodes. She gets constantly sexually assaulted by Sugou Noboyuki while captive. Her two main scenes in the second arc is when she tries to break free, but almost gets raped by that tentacle monster. Having rape scenes in an anime does not necessarily mean an anime is sexist, However, if said rape scene has directing, cinematography, and a narrative tone that portrays women as weak, in constant need of protection, and - even worse - the scenes are being shot in a voyeuristic way, then it certainly is. |
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BurntFlower said: Rewatched that scene, yup. I still wouldn't put it into the same category as Wounded Man, which is seriously fucked up even for it's exploitation genre w/r to glorifying rape. Blue Flames has it, but far less plot relevant and I don't agree it glorifies it either. MC is portrayed as a sociopath without the ability to feel emotions. He isn't exactly a victim, but no hero either. Pretty much everybody in that anime is a loser, including him. Which puts it closer to School Days than to Wounded Man imho, just somewhat more explicit than the former. That said, none of the two is a good anime. Yet Blue Flames more seriously tries before it fails.inim said: Uh, have you forgotten the rape scenes in Blue Flames? There are at least 3 of them. The worst one starts at minute 37:30. His girlfriend screams, "No...stop! No! Stop it!" as he grabs her forcefully after she pulled a knife on him. Knife clatters to the floor. He pushes her down onto the sofa, pinning her down under his weight as she keeps screaming no. He then rapes her. Of course, she's still in love with him after that, because this is a fucked up anime.I watched both as well, and what you write is about Wounded Man and true. But Bue Flames? Just a swindler climbing up the social ladder by lying to women. That's just being an asshole, not specific to the gender of his victims. |
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inim said: BurntFlower said: Rewatched that scene, yup. I still wouldn't put it into the same category as Wounded Man, which is seriously fucked up even for it's exploitation genre w/r to glorifying rape. Blue Flames has it, but far less plot relevant and I don't agree it glorifies it either. MC is portrayed as a sociopath without the ability to feel emotions. He isn't exactly a victim, but no hero either. Pretty much everybody in that anime is a loser, including him. Which puts it closer to School Days than to Wounded Man imho, just somewhat more explicit than the former. That said, none of the two is a good anime. Yet Blue Flames more seriously tries before it fails.Uh, have you forgotten the rape scenes in Blue Flames? There are at least 3 of them. The worst one starts at minute 37:30. His girlfriend screams, "No...stop! No! Stop it!" as he grabs her forcefully after she pulled a knife on him. Knife clatters to the floor. He pushes her down onto the sofa, pinning her down under his weight as she keeps screaming no. He then rapes her. Of course, she's still in love with him after that, because this is a fucked up anime. I will agree with you on the point that Wounded Man is the worst - it is my most hated anime for a reason. But Blue Flames comes at a close second, because it has some of the same elements that Wounded Man has. Ryuuichi is most definitely a sociopath, but I disagree with you that the anime does not glorify his exploits. The most blatant reason would be because all of the rape victims still love Ryuuichi, even after the assault. There are no scenes that depict them as having suffered from the rape either emotionally or physically. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Had the anime's intention been to portray those rape scenes as horrible, it would have realistically depicted the woman's pain after the rape - the self-loathing, the disgust, the depersonalization, the depression/shock, etc. And the second reason would be because of the overall tone of the OVA. In the rape scene I mentioned previously, a cheesy 90's synth soundtrack starts playing in the last few seconds of the rape, just as soon as the rape victim is screaming that she will do anything for Ryuuichi. Cut to the next scene of Ryuuichi in a cool, silver convertible, said corny song accompanying the scene. The ending solidifies the point that the OVA was not condemning his actions. There are no repercussions to his actions. He got away with everything, and managed to acquire more cash and a sweet car. His blue flame will continue burning, he thinks. Cue final shot of his eyes. A lighthearted flue song starts playing. Roll credits. |
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Nurguburu said: Surprised that SAO is mentioned but nvm the overrated "SAO is bad" meme is still there. All girls can fight but if they admire or are in love with Kirito has nothing to do with being "misogynistic". Straight or bisexual women in rl do the same for a guy....Maybe you can argue with me that they dont have the best personality or whatever but they're treated as characters. About the question, maybe not misogynistic since I've barely found an anime that falls into that category (and i dont watch hentai) but I found the girls in Death Note so poorly written it makes me laugh (I like Death Note but that part was funny lol). But still, I don't consider anime as misogynistic, ppl just confuse old traditions and straight guys acting like straight guys with misogyny in current days lmao. I wouldn't say poorly written , Yagami was just too smart lol. One of the female character almost fucks up Light too. |
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