DomineLkira said: hardrock13 said: Lol we both know it's those toxic FMA fanboys. They're so scared for their show losing its number 1 spot, it's pathetic. And their reviews won't be removed because they have old accounts and can review bomb anything they want. They think their opinion is the only objective one. How delusional you have to be. Actual pepegas. No , I don't know what you are talking about. These accounts rating this show 1/10 are also legitimate like the ones rating 10/10. They are real people who watched the show , didn't liked it , and rated a 1/10. Or is only 10/10 is allowed on this website? Hahaha you serious? First of all, there's barely a reason to rate a show 1/10 because you wouldn't have picked it up in the first place. Second of all, never said only 10/10 are allowed. I just pointed out that a massive increase in 1/10 reviews when a series approaches FMA is known to be bitter FMA fanboys. It's happened before, it's happening now. You might not know, you're new by the looks of it. antverpen said: DomineLkira said: No , I don't know what you are talking about. These accounts rating this show 1/10 are also legitimate like the ones rating 10/10. They are real people who watched the show , didn't liked it , and rated a 1/10. Or is only 10/10 is allowed on this website? oops, their logic works against them A 1 day troll account is arguing with me. Boi, fuck outta here with your bullshit. You're the one the mods target, you have no say in this. |
ElPsyCongo said: I'm as much of a fan of anime as anyone else here, just because you disagree with my ratings doesn't mean you're allowed to call me ''fake''. I Want to let u know that your account activities are public to everyone so stop trying to make yourself look more legit by rating random shows (double vote manipulation 🤔) It was all meme and fun and that was yesterday so let it end there and stop putting yourself on bad spot and risking your main account to be also flagged  |
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hardrock13 said: DomineLkira said: No , I don't know what you are talking about. These accounts rating this show 1/10 are also legitimate like the ones rating 10/10. They are real people who watched the show , didn't liked it , and rated a 1/10. Or is only 10/10 is allowed on this website? Hahaha you serious? First of all, there's barely a reason to rate a show 1/10 because you wouldn't have picked it up in the first place. Second of all, never said only 10/10 are allowed. I just pointed out that a massive increase in 1/10 reviews when a series approaches FMA is known to be bitter FMA fanboys. It's happened before, it's happening now. You might not know, you're new by the looks of it. antverpen said: oops, their logic works against them A 1 day troll account is arguing with me. Boi, fuck outta here with your bullshit. You're the one the mods target, you have no say in this. I believe I am old enough participant on this website to know how this works. Like I said , 1/10 rating are as legitimate as the 10/10 are. If the people rating IR 10/10 by making a new account think they are legitimate , then the people giving this show 1/10 are also legitimate , don't you think? |
| Seems like the mods will have this situation under control eventually, so that's good. I kinda like the idea of reverting the score back to what it was before the vote brigading, but they should also ban illegitimate accounts along with that. So many shows like LoGH, Chihayafuru 3, AoT S3 Pt.2, Gintama, etc are victims of illegitimate accounts spamming 1s. Also curious as to see how banning these kinds of accounts will shake up the top 100. |
ItIsMeCall911 said: ElPsyCongo said: I'm as much of a fan of anime as anyone else here, just because you disagree with my ratings doesn't mean you're allowed to call me ''fake''. I Want to let u know that your account activities are public to everyone so stop trying to make yourself look more legit by rating random shows (double vote manipulation 🤔) It was all meme and fun and that was yesterday so let it end there and stop putting yourself on bad spot and risking your main account to be also flagged I am not scoring random shows. I have seen all of them. Not scared of my main account getting flagged because I don't have one, I'm new and will use this account and will score how I see fit. |
Bunka_no_Otoko said: Dram_Springfeald said: Are you sure you want to go that rout? Ever heard of a VPN? This ban wave is only going to throw fuel onto the fire as Ishuzoku fans everywhere will only see this as MAL being in lockstep with funimation. They will undoubtedly bring more people into the fray with this step. Tread very carefully. There are more eyes on this than you think... Ohhhhhh scaryyyyy |
DomineLkira said: Bunka_no_Otoko said: Ever heard of a VPN? This ban wave is only going to throw fuel onto the fire as Ishuzoku fans everywhere will only see this as MAL being in lockstep with funimation. They will undoubtedly bring more people into the fray with this step. Tread very carefully. There are more eyes on this than you think... Ohhhhhh scaryyyyy Bunka_no_Otoko said: Dram_Springfeald said: Are you sure you want to go that rout? Ever heard of a VPN? This ban wave is only going to throw fuel onto the fire as Ishuzoku fans everywhere will only see this as MAL being in lockstep with funimation. Believe it or not, most of the Nux fans have only made 1 account so far, and only a tiny fraction of the viewers of that video even voted. They will undoubtedly bring more people into the fray with this step. Tread very carefully. There are more eyes on this than you think... Except the Nux fanbase , I doubt anyone cares about this anime being no.1 |
Dram_Springfeald said: Bunka_no_Otoko said: Ever heard of a VPN? This ban wave is only going to throw fuel onto the fire as Ishuzoku fans everywhere will only see this as MAL being in lockstep with funimation. Believe it or not, most of the Nux fans have only made 1 account so far, and only a tiny fraction of the viewers of that video even voted. They will undoubtedly bring more people into the fray with this step. Tread very carefully. There are more eyes on this than you think... Lol, that is literally what I was talking about an hour or 2 ago. ALL this is going to do is make MAL look like they are taking Orders from Funi JUST like Rotten Tomatoes and Disney. No they are not. MAL is an independent website. If they had a problem with IR they would have removed it completely from the website , like Funimation did |
Dram_Springfeald said: thefjords said: Yes, there could be options A,B, and C (none of which correctly represent what you wrote in the previous post), but there might be an option D, E, F etc. of which we know nothing about - because, again, there is no official announcement that explains this fully. Okay, Name one? So far the options suggested have been, "we reset the server back to the 5th" | "We delete suspected bot accounts" and "we will not delete accounts" D would be Removing the point system all together, E would be Freezing all votes (which seeing as it's been 61,414 for the last 3 hours "I have a guess which option they are currently using" and just nuking the whole site from orbit, "it's the only way to be sure" and A-C are explicitly what I said and meant when I said things earlier. It seems like another user already gave you another option: Eyth said: The main issue is just to the total ranking. They can just change the calculation of the average to lower the values of votes during spikes. For exemple, if there are 100 votes on day X and 50000 on day Y, a vote on day X is worth 500 day Y votes. People keep their votes, it makes brigading and bot voting harder, since you would need to cheat a bunch of new accounts everyday for it to have any big effects. Sure, that makes votes non equal but the rankings are already irrelevant for most people (I'm sure most people unhappy with that manipulation didn't care about the previous top 10 either) so it will just harden them to manipulation. This might also not be ideal to you, but it's just one other option. Want more? there could be many floating around from previous incidents in the suggestions area or find some case studies to compare this to. The staff seem to have been working on these measures for quite a few months, if not more, yet kept quiet about the details. They're the experts here and I choose to optimistically trust them to find a decent solution to the vote manipulation problem. |
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CallanDeMatrix said: Which youtubers did this?? Specifically Nux first and then Lost Pause. And honestly, this shit is spiraling even more out of control because they were trying to do it for memes. But after being called out, they tried to spin the story and say you're welcome MAL for giving them more traffic but this kind is the most definite of negative. My respect for the two of them went down a lot because of this shit |
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Bunka_no_Otoko said: Dram_Springfeald said: Are you sure you want to go that rout? Ever heard of a VPN? This ban wave is only going to throw fuel onto the fire as Ishuzoku fans everywhere will only see this as MAL being in lockstep with funimation. Believe it or not, most of the Nux fans have only made 1 account so far, and only a tiny fraction of the viewers of that video even voted. They will undoubtedly bring more people into the fray with this step. Tread very carefully. There are more eyes on this than you think... We are Legion We despise censorship in any form We do not forgive We do not forget Expect us Go ahead if you want the entire internet to mock Ishuzoku. There are plenty of bad fanbases but I think creating even more fake accounts (and I have already seen plenty of people bragging about their fake accounts so now, they are already doing it) to get first place on a site non related to Funanimation would place them quite high on that list. You might also accomplish the great feat of forcing the admin to put it in hentai (no more ranking for it) , freeze it's page or just delete it temporarily. If you are even more obnoxious, you might force a Two factor registering or manual confirmation/waiting time on new accounts for a while. Of course, it probably won't come to that, but if it does I'm sure everyone will be very impressed by how great the Ishuzoku fanbase is. |
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Lisetto said: thefjords said: Did you just say that they may have missed your point in responding to your response to someone and that may be misinterpreted by someone just coming in...to the very same person you said you were responding to? If not, that's...very confusing up there...not gonna lie.You might have missed my point, what I responded to was a statement that could easily be misunderstood by someone who just enters this discussion: Yes, there could be options A,B, and C (none of which correctly represent what you wrote in the previous post), but there might be an option D, E, F etc. of which we know nothing about - because, again, there is no official announcement that explains this fully. Is it really? I quoted the statement by the same person to place it in the right context, since they didn't include this when replying to what I wrote. I was actually being considerate so they won't have to go back a page just to see what I was referring to. Still, I haven't been particularly active in these forums so there were probably better ways to do that which I haven't figured out yet. |
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CallanDeMatrix said: Which youtubers did this?? Nux is the person responsible for this huge change. I wonder why so many people are starting to downvote again the show, this is not how you do things, this is literally how the whole mess started |
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| Looking at it, it seems like IR will soon leave the Top10. It is now 7th and will probably continue to bleed points as legitimate accounts continue to legitimately rank it 1/10. So, you could say the problem is self correcting if you really don't want to remove the "fake" votes. |
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Dram_Springfeald said: Source? and Remember, many of us have screenshots to back up out statements. Just look at his comment section. Many people are sad that this got down and are thinking that they should make more accounts to boost it up. Sort by new. |
ElPsyCongo said: ItIsMeCall911 said: I Want to let u know that your account activities are public to everyone so stop trying to make yourself look more legit by rating random shows (double vote manipulation 🤔) It was all meme and fun and that was yesterday so let it end there and stop putting yourself on bad spot and risking your main account to be also flagged I am not scoring random shows. I have seen all of them. Not scared of my main account getting flagged because I don't have one, I'm new and will use this account and will score how I see fit. Well you won't do it for long. The purge is coming. |
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Dram_Springfeald said: And you have 1 less post than I do, so that makes you a fake account. >_> you do see how that "logic" fails right? Bots get scaled by their behavior not by how many post/comment they have Because anyone can easily create a group and spam the shit out of it and voilà you have 69 ( ͡• ͜ʖ ͡• ) posts Also there is people with 2008 accounts that have only 5 post so are you telling me that they are also dummy accounts ? Weak argument try something else ElPsyCongo said: I am not scoring random shows. I have seen all of them. Not scared of my main account getting flagged because I don't have one, I'm new and will use this account and will score how I see fit. Ok then mister obvious do what suits you Here's a nice profile picture for your account, i hope you like it 🤗  |
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Dram_Springfeald said: DomineLkira said: Just look at his comment section. Many people are sad that this got down and are thinking that they should make more accounts to boost it up. Sort by new. Right, like "antverpen said: BTW, I have about 10 thousand friends, we like FAMB, but don’t like ecchi-hentai, I’ll ask them to look at IR and evaluate how they want" and "antrixus said: Get this garbage out of top 50." about 2 dozen times. antverpen has IR rated 9/10. What are you talking about? |
Bunka_no_Otoko said: antverpen said: Nope, they have already stopped at 9.21 and have exhausted all their forces ))) Apparently you haven't looked at the view or sub counts of the channels involved. Less than 1% of his fanbase has even bothered to vote thus far. I wonder what would happen if you really pissed them off? What will happen? |
Dram_Springfeald said: Quite literally what I posted antverpen said: BTW, I have about 10 thousand friends, we like FAMB, but don’t like ecchi-hentai, I’ll ask them to look at IR and evaluate how they want Isn't it like obvious that he is joking? "I have 10 thousand friends who like FMAB but hate ecchi" I think it sounds pretty fake. And two guys out of the whole thread. The guy's comment section has many , many people who are sad and want to make alt accounts. |
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Dram_Springfeald said: DomineLkira said: Apparently you haven't looked at the view or sub counts of the channels involved. Less than 1% of his fanbase has even bothered to vote thus far. I wonder what would happen if you really pissed them off? What will happen? The site is losing it's crap over less than 0.025% of either YT's accounts getting involved. How well do you think they will deal with 0.1% or even JUST 1% coming back with a "You did this for Funimation" Mentality or worse, "you said no to our using of your site as it was intended?" >_> heck, I'm pretty sure 5% of their combined userbase would crash this site.... and that's BEFORE Laymen, the Quartering and Young get involved. [/quote] Look , found a guy in the comment section. I think images about the situation are allowed , right? http://imgur.com/gallery/GBs2nkR |
Bunka_no_Otoko said: DomineLkira said: What will happen? Combined: Nux,Noble,Chibi, and Joey have more subs than the total number of users on this site. They are only slightly aggravated now (primarily at Funimation), and the majority of the upvotes have come from memers (just look at the sub/view counts). Take a gander at the forums over at Funimation regarding this anime, or on the funimation YT, or thier twitter. Does MAL really want to be seen as synonymous with Funimation and censorship? I have no idea what will happen, but I can garentee it's not gonna be pretty. I don't know about the others , but joey , you mean anime man , right? He won't participate in this whatever movement y'all starting. And he has most out of all the three. Chibi also looks a bit mature and even though he is having some laughs out of this situation , I don't think he will encourage his audience to participate. And the other two are already part of it. Plus not all subscribers of Nux watch his videos. His video which started all this issue doesn't even have half a million views. So you know , I think this plan won't work |
Bunka_no_Otoko said: [Combined: Nux,Noble,Chibi, and Joey have more subs than the total number of users on this site. Quite an overlap of fans there I would say. |
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