| @AbuHumaid #198 are u reading off activity or content? Zwei was engaged in role discussion which I don't see mafia doing, unless experienced. even by activity, Waka looks worse than Zwei. |
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| @AbuHumaid explain to me, how can a flipless setup have mafia doc? I'm town and basically cop, but it's extremely mafia-sided if I'm the only helpful role to town (in terms of navigating in a flipless). more so, with ds6 flipping vig(?) it males more sense if doc was town. use ur head pls |
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AbuHumaid said: Phraze said: Zwei's talk about roles isn't undoable for mafia, in fact it's much easier to talk about roles rather than players, how do you not see mafia doing it? Waka isn't as active as Zwei, but Zwei talked a bit about the mechanics, disappeared when people started town reading them, then reappeared whe they were called out, how is this better than someone who's on their first game ever and has been consistently inactive throughout the game?@AbuHumaid #198 are u reading off activity or content? Zwei was engaged in role discussion which I don't see mafia doing, unless experienced. even by activity, Waka looks worse than Zwei. I only made 2 posts d1 tho and, talking mechanics isn't incriminating unless the talker uses achieved towncred to push in directions. coasting is possible, but unlikely if u put urself under radar like that. overall I doubt Zwei is mafia (even tho ik her oog lol). |
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| I don't understand all the lingo but I think it's perfectly plausible the Zashi could be maf. |
| if I apply #206 to others, then Bajar or Abu (more like Bajar), is utilizing achieved towncred as much as possible. |
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Bajar said: there's no point in speculating which roles are mafia/town tho, unless brought up. it's rolefishing and suspicious.I don't understand all the lingo but I think it's perfectly plausible the Zashi could be maf. also, u should ask if u don't understand. it helps. |
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| Google helped me with the lingo but I just don't follow your reasoning at all. In post #205. |
| Don't know if this is a useful train of thought but darth_snake was really the only player to express suspicion towards Abu on D1 and now they're dead. Coincidence? |
Bajar said: Google helped me with the lingo but I just don't follow your reasoning at all. In post #205. oh ok. my reasoning in #205 is that the setup is too much in mafia's favor if I'm the only useful role in a flipless setup. perchance this role was killed N1, instead of ds6, town has no chance of winning.. especially if jurougumo/vig is town. in terms of fairness, doc would likely be town. |
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| Oh ok. I was assuming that roles were randomly divided between town and maf and only Houou was forced to be town. Now that I think about it tho the host never said that. The only thing we know is that Houou is openly town. There might be certain roles that are guaranteed to be maf or town just based on the host wanting balance but it's unknown to us players. That makes sense. |
| But this part of the OP makes me think the roles are randomly assigned to maf or town so I don't buy that argument. "Any youkai can be of any faction (Houou being an exception). This means that some powers will fall into the hands of the evil, and some powers will be used for the good of everyone." Also there are other good roles other than Zashi and Tenome. Inugami and Tanuki both seem powerful/useful for town. |
| Zashi is also kind of a useless role for mafia tbh so if a mafia is Zashi then yeah that means town has one less powerful/useful role but so does maf in that case. I think it's still balanced if Zashi is maf. |
| got confused there. Zashiki is doc. I'm the only role to know factions afaik, not just roles. others swing either way. so yes, doc is likely town (moreso with town Jurougumo/vig in play). |
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Bajar said: But this part of the OP makes me think the roles are randomly assigned to maf or town so I don't buy that argument. "Any youkai can be of any faction (Houou being an exception). This means that some powers will fall into the hands of the evil, and some powers will be used for the good of everyone." Also there are other good roles other than Zashi and Tenome. Inugami and Tanuki both seem powerful/useful for town. how are Inugami and Tanuki roles useful? would like to hear ur opinions. |
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| current reads phraze ds6 azur zwei bajar abu waka baggins baggins being mafia is still likely, there hasn't been much substance from that slot. I'm not locking zwei as town, but it's a more confident read than others. so I'm thinking 1 of bajar/abu/waka for mafia. if baggins was mafia though.. abu is likely town for pushing that wagon. that leaves bajar/waka. if baggins was town, which I doubt, then the suspect pool is still in zwei/bajar/abu/waka. might need to read prev phase again. waka was baggins's counterwagon. |
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| Inugami = Tracker Tanuki = Hooker if you suspect someone is maf you can use it on them and it's very effective. Your role only finds out alignment blindly. You learn the faction of people who visit the same person but not who they are. Usefulness is limited. You already wasted your one-shot. |
| @zwei @I-am-wakahisa @azurblau exercise your right to vote! Only 1h40m left! |
| I will Vote lynch: AbuHumaid 3 reasons (1) changing his vote a lot last turn. Seems to me like just targeting who is an easy lynch target. (2) darth_snake6 said: In my opinion AbuHumaid might be mafia, I've seen before the type of mafia who pretend to be town and lead the town, influencing the other's votes. He is a veteran so it wouldn't be too hard for him to deceive us. Also there are certain people who already follow his actions which support the fact that they might both be mafia. Again, just my opinion. The only player who really vocalized any suspicion towards him yesterday is now dead. (3) He seems to be tunnelling pretty hard on Phraze this turn. I read this as trying to eliminate the only player remaining who he feels will call him out. |
| The vote count right now is 1 for AbuHumaid (me) 1 for I-am-Wakahisa (Phraze) 1 for Phraze (AbuHumaid) Hopefully some lurkers check in before the deadline to give some input and give their votes. |
Azurblau said: If you fail to submit at least 5 (relatively) constructive posts during a day phase, you will receive a warning. If it happens again, you will be replaced. So much for this rule. hehe. |
| hmmm u have a point. Inugami is another investigative. Tanuki is neighborizer though. Abu's focus on me as the only other who would suspect him is possible, but still not sure. @AbuHumaid who are ur other suspects? |
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| post #125 Abu deflects the notion of influencing other players, besides get on ds6's good side. starting to think it's an Abu/Waka team, since Abu is avoiding voting/suspecting Waka - Baggins being town is likely in this case. Waka also technically saved himself by voting Baggins. Vote lynch: AbuHumaid |
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| why would you claim that? Makes you an easy night kill target if you're town. If you're maf then claiming that last minute to try and throw Phraze off your trail since she expressed doubts that Zashi could be maf aligned??? |
| I'm just frustrated by the lack of activity. The lurkers should at least throw in a vote? I'd rather have them just vote with no context or reasoning given than the status quo. |
| ugh it's tied now |
| well played if it's Waka and Abu. you're basically forcing my hand now with <2 minutes left |
| Vote lynch: Phraze |
| Time! |
Vote count 2.1 (Final) Players should notify the host if they notice a mistake in the count or links. |
| I-am-Wakahisa, Zwei and Azurblau have been prodded. |
AbuHumaid said: If I die tonight, remember my 2nd suspect was Zwei. |
| things that we know right now: 1. It's 1 maf vs 3 town right now (if it was 0v4 or 2v2 the game would be over) 2. Azur is town (Houou) 3. Abu and darth_snake were town 4. One of Phraze or Smaug was maf 5. 4 roles left are Houou, Kyourinrin, Nekomata, and Houou |
| I think Phraze was maf. They were targeting Waka and Abu yesterday. Did not target Zwei. Abu was town and pointed suspicion at Zwei before his death. Vote lynch: Zwei |
sorry meant to say Inugami instead of Houou twice. |
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