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      Apr 9, 2018 10:32 AM
#3051
| @Shinichi-kun Looking at it again; I actually don't believe that no | 
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Apr 9, 2018 10:39 AM
#3052
| Hmm Pokeit replaced before Taker claimed right? Bad fake claiming would also mean lack in communication. So I'm going back to suspecting Karote/Pokeit lol | 
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Apr 9, 2018 11:21 AM
#3053
| @NewG #3047 let me answer your wine with more wine: Do you really believe I would risk self voting myself as scum with over half the people suspecting meyes, but either way it's bad etiquette, to vote urself, why not just vote pokeit with me... Why do u think I am still scum after advocating Tainteds lynch for like 2 days straight | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:46 PM
#3054
| NewG said: Shinichi-Kun said:That feeling would be mutual with that action; but you do you. if you're town yore not doing yourself a favour. No idea why you're trying to push on me so hard; knowing that you'll have 1 guess for free out of 4. NewG said: logic340 said:I will. Like I said; I will be here 6 hours before phase change; I can look properly into this then. I created a scenario where it would be suicidal for scum/town to hammer, by self voting myself. (if you haven't noticed already) So if town can actually wait by then. @NewG and @Wisp-O why are you two going off but read at this critical stage? Go back look over the evidence and find something that substantiates said gut feeling. I can't back your gut read on D5. I just cannot do it trust me I'll gladly hammer you, your self vote means nothing to me it actually makes m3 think your more scummy #3047 let me answer your wine with more wine: Do you really believe I would risk self voting myself as scum with over half the people suspecting me self voting is normally a scum aligned action so yes i do, there is alot of reasons why i suspect you though. | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:47 PM
#3055
| @shinichi-kun ur original arguement protecting pokeits claim was that no scum would claim a 5th vanilla... but in this case he is a vanilla, what else would he claim? In the case of tainted, he knew that roz was the wild card, or he was, so it was ez to claim tracker... pokeit had to make a claim, so of course it would be vanilla the only thing thats confusing is that tainted called out scarlet for being scummy before pokeit swapped in... would scum tainted bus his own partners? I mean he did it was with taker... which in a way might show they he was ok with losing mafia, more reason to believe their is probably 4 | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:53 PM
#3056
| PentaFlare said: NewG said:I can't confirm that this question has or has not been asked but I can confirm that mafia can either perform an action or the factional night kill, but can't do both, the exception being mafia ninja and mafia janitor obviously. Tainted said: Wisp-O said:I asked Penta if scum can do their night actions and factional kill at the same time and he said no.. at that time Cent and Shin had been doing their night actions every night and people had been confirming it so they can't be doing their factional kill so there's no point tracking them.. Tainted said:gwen... like you only even started voting for me because I said you could be scum... you tracked me out of omgus... or any of the other prs... why do the vanilla's not get free passes but all the PR's do? Wisp-O said:so who do you think is a decent track then?? Tainted said:no... logically the chances of two scum being in the PRs is higher, you shouldve checked them... and u picked the least likely to beat scum vanillas too track... you use your bias against me to make me look like a good choice for the track... Wisp-O said:nah I just wanted to sort out the vts first because it will be the hardest one with 5 people I don't want it done later on lylo.. @tainted why is that you keep attacking the vanilla claims, but believe all the prs are legit??? back to tainted being scum again... but in actuality none of your track choices were decent @PentaFlare is that true? @wisp-o hmm i just noticed something, century didnt neighborize on night 1 and a kill happened still so its possible he is the PR scum. I mean he cant really lie about his ability usage unless he fakes targeting a scum. @newg what did u and century talk about in the neighbor chat? | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:54 PM
#3057
Apr 9, 2018 12:54 PM
#3058
| Shinichi-Kun said:ohh... and if this is true... hmmmmm PentaFlare said: NewG said: Tainted said: Wisp-O said:I asked Penta if scum can do their night actions and factional kill at the same time and he said no.. at that time Cent and Shin had been doing their night actions every night and people had been confirming it so they can't be doing their factional kill so there's no point tracking them.. Tainted said:gwen... like you only even started voting for me because I said you could be scum... you tracked me out of omgus... or any of the other prs... why do the vanilla's not get free passes but all the PR's do? Wisp-O said:so who do you think is a decent track then?? Tainted said:no... logically the chances of two scum being in the PRs is higher, you shouldve checked them... and u picked the least likely to beat scum vanillas too track... you use your bias against me to make me look like a good choice for the track... Wisp-O said:nah I just wanted to sort out the vts first because it will be the hardest one with 5 people I don't want it done later on lylo.. @tainted why is that you keep attacking the vanilla claims, but believe all the prs are legit??? back to tainted being scum again... but in actuality none of your track choices were decent @PentaFlare is that true? @wisp-o hmm i just noticed something, century didnt neighborize on night 1 and a kill happened still so its possible he is the PR scum. I mean he cant really lie about his ability usage unless he fakes targeting a scum. @newg what did u and century talk about in the neighbor chat? | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:54 PM
#3059
| Shinichi-Kun said:my neighborize kicked in as soon as the day started @wisp-o when were u neighborized? and when was everyone else neighborize do u remember? | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:55 PM
#3060
| Tainted said: If I ever get lynched autolynch Phraze.. My tracks are n1 Wisp n2 Pokeit Not sure about Wisp cause Taker was still alive back then this could be why phraze died, cause he kinda by accident cleared phraze with this post. | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:56 PM
#3061
| Shinichi-Kun said:hmm, could be, nice find Tainted said: If I ever get lynched autolynch Phraze.. My tracks are n1 Wisp n2 Pokeit Not sure about Wisp cause Taker was still alive back then this could be why phraze died, cause he kinda by accident cleared phraze with this post. | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 12:59 PM
#3062
| @shinich-kun By Pokeit If he meant normal special cop, the dichotomy should be between Tainted and Taker, not Taker and Yurkin.. i wonder if this post means anything | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:00 PM
#3063
| Wisp-O said: @NewG #3047 let me answer your wine with more wine: Do you really believe I would risk self voting myself as scum with over half the people suspecting meyes, but either way it's bad etiquette, to vote urself, why not just vote pokeit with me... Why do u think I am still scum after advocating Tainteds lynch for like 2 days straight Let's be real here. If you gonna get lynched this phase anyway; why not die as a hero? :P I do not want my lynch to go in vain; so I basically did that for reactions (Karotes reaction gave me a good feeling at that time tbh); there would be no way town would hammer that shit, so I wanted to see if scum was already on my train or not but it doesnt matter anymore. Shinichi was right; I was trying to stall and/or catch scum; the only bad town play imo would be town hammering it early, so I got my results. unvote You can say you are town all you want, but I don't like how you and Shin INSIST to be cleared like wtf. You pushing on Tainted means nothing to me, since I saw Abu doing it in the terraformars game too. Sore wa wainu desu! I am townreading you more than I scumread you, but you will never be 100% cleared for me until I see it b/w on paper. If it's not Pokeit; it's probably you :P | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:02 PM
#3065
| @NewG that works, so trust me and vote with me, I understand that line of thinking... there is just too much wine and uncertainty in this game I'm not gunna lie and say any of my reads are confirmed... I am just trying my best to lower PoE at this point | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:03 PM
#3066
| Wisp-O said: @shinichi-kun ur original arguement protecting pokeits claim was that no scum would claim a 5th vanilla... but in this case he is a vanilla, what else would he claim? In the case of tainted, he knew that roz was the wild card, or he was, so it was ez to claim tracker... pokeit had to make a claim, so of course it would be vanilla the only thing thats confusing is that tainted called out scarlet for being scummy before pokeit swapped in... would scum tainted bus his own partners? I mean he did it was with taker... which in a way might show they he was ok with losing mafia, more reason to believe their is probably 4 honestly the way pokeit claimed is tellling, dont u think if he was scum he would have been more paranoid with claiming the 5th vt. He didnt hold back and just went with it. | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:03 PM
#3067
| Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said:my neighborize kicked in as soon as the day started @wisp-o when were u neighborized? and when was everyone else neighborize do u remember? this was when day 4 right? | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:04 PM
#3068
| Shinichi-Kun said:ya but he also claimed in an awkward way, almost seemed like he was trying to shine hard on the fact that one of the vanillas was lying... it seemed more agenda based to me honestly Wisp-O said: @shinichi-kun ur original arguement protecting pokeits claim was that no scum would claim a 5th vanilla... but in this case he is a vanilla, what else would he claim? In the case of tainted, he knew that roz was the wild card, or he was, so it was ez to claim tracker... pokeit had to make a claim, so of course it would be vanilla the only thing thats confusing is that tainted called out scarlet for being scummy before pokeit swapped in... would scum tainted bus his own partners? I mean he did it was with taker... which in a way might show they he was ok with losing mafia, more reason to believe their is probably 4 honestly the way pokeit claimed is tellling, dont u think if he was scum he would have been more paranoid with claiming the 5th vt. He didnt hold back and just went with it. | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:04 PM
#3069
| Shinichi-Kun said:w/e day it is right now, I can still talk to him Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said: @wisp-o when were u neighborized? and when was everyone else neighborize do u remember? this was when day 4 right? | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:05 PM
#3070
Apr 9, 2018 1:05 PM
#3071
| Im saving all our conversation... because after today I lose it, and want to make sure he doesnt lie about anything | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:06 PM
#3072
| Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said:w/e day it is right now, I can still talk to him Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said:my neighborize kicked in as soon as the day started @wisp-o when were u neighborized? and when was everyone else neighborize do u remember? this was when day 4 right? oh that confirms he didnt make the night kill then, and i already know u didnt make the night kill. How interesting. | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:06 PM
#3073
| It would make more sense for Taker to fake-claim Vigilante since it was in the same group as PGO. I'm wondering why he claimed Special cop instead.This statement imo clears Shin, but hey what do I know | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:06 PM
#3074
| Wisp-O said: It would make more sense for Taker to fake-claim Vigilante since it was in the same group as PGO. I'm wondering why he claimed Special cop instead.This statement imo clears Shin, but hey what do I know Wisp-O said: It would make more sense for Taker to fake-claim Vigilante since it was in the same group as PGO. I'm wondering why he claimed Special cop instead.This statement imo clears Shin, but hey what do I know ive been trying to explain that to gwen and pokeit but they dont seem to listen. | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:07 PM
#3075
| Not much actually. I was asking him if he thinks I am scum and why I shoud think he isn't but really only got the confused cent as always. | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:08 PM
#3076
| again in post #1934 @shinichi-kun pokeit claims he believes the categories have one mafia and one town... so why does he believe you are scum now... these contradictions | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:09 PM
#3077
| Shinichi-Kun said: Wisp-O said: It would make more sense for Taker to fake-claim Vigilante since it was in the same group as PGO. I'm wondering why he claimed Special cop instead.This statement imo clears Shin, but hey what do I know Wisp-O said: It would make more sense for Taker to fake-claim Vigilante since it was in the same group as PGO. I'm wondering why he claimed Special cop instead.This statement imo clears Shin, but hey what do I know ive been trying to explain that to gwen and pokeit but they dont seem to listen. edit: As hard as I want to deny it tho... | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:12 PM
#3078
| Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said:ya but he also claimed in an awkward way, almost seemed like he was trying to shine hard on the fact that one of the vanillas was lying... it seemed more agenda based to me honestly Wisp-O said: @shinichi-kun ur original arguement protecting pokeits claim was that no scum would claim a 5th vanilla... but in this case he is a vanilla, what else would he claim? In the case of tainted, he knew that roz was the wild card, or he was, so it was ez to claim tracker... pokeit had to make a claim, so of course it would be vanilla the only thing thats confusing is that tainted called out scarlet for being scummy before pokeit swapped in... would scum tainted bus his own partners? I mean he did it was with taker... which in a way might show they he was ok with losing mafia, more reason to believe their is probably 4 honestly the way pokeit claimed is tellling, dont u think if he was scum he would have been more paranoid with claiming the 5th vt. He didnt hold back and just went with it. Yea, I dont like how he casually left it in the open that someone was lying. Would town do that? | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:13 PM
#3079
| @Shinichi-kun he neighbourizes during the day, but I think he has to pick a target at night? | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:17 PM
#3080
| NewG said:no... if someone was really town, they would focus on that a lot harder than pokeit did Wisp-O said: Shinichi-Kun said: Wisp-O said: @shinichi-kun ur original arguement protecting pokeits claim was that no scum would claim a 5th vanilla... but in this case he is a vanilla, what else would he claim? In the case of tainted, he knew that roz was the wild card, or he was, so it was ez to claim tracker... pokeit had to make a claim, so of course it would be vanilla the only thing thats confusing is that tainted called out scarlet for being scummy before pokeit swapped in... would scum tainted bus his own partners? I mean he did it was with taker... which in a way might show they he was ok with losing mafia, more reason to believe their is probably 4 honestly the way pokeit claimed is tellling, dont u think if he was scum he would have been more paranoid with claiming the 5th vt. He didnt hold back and just went with it. Yea, I dont like how he casually left it in the open that someone was lying. Would town do that? | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:19 PM
#3081
| Gonna try an ISO on Pokeit ;-; @Shinichi-kun have you gathered all the vote counts visually? If yes, mind to share? | 
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Apr 9, 2018 1:19 PM
#3082
| Wisp-O said: again in post #1934 @shinichi-kun pokeit claims he believes the categories have one mafia and one town... so why does he believe you are scum now... these contradictions @pokeit hey hey hey get in here | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:22 PM
#3083
| @shinichi-kun those two posts a lone show... that if pokeit flips scum, and their is mafia left... then it cant be you but it could still mean logic could be scum, and century also | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:24 PM
#3084
| @pentaflare not sure if this is allowed but if its not feel free to delete this post. if worse comes to wrose i can just recreate it in bbcode i am just lazy Green=Confirmed Town Red=Confirmed Scum Blue=Town Read Black=Just generic for someone i havent placed yet. | 
Apr 9, 2018 1:27 PM
#3085
Apr 9, 2018 1:56 PM
#3086
| ISO Pokeit Day 1 #782 Logic claimed in #548 after his train started gaining traction. He claimed Pathetic Fallacy and didn't get counterclaimed so he's locktown.His whole reads list basically show good and bad behaviour of one person. Locktowns logic tho (I believe logic does not have a scumread on him currently either) #791 If I understand it correctly, there can be either mafia or/and town jailkeeper (no counter claim so I beleive only 1 of them). Shinichi-kun could be either.By his logic, Shin should be locktown too, since a jailkeeper can get counterclaimed by the actual jailkeeper too and it is just as risky. By his logic. There's only a single Pathetic Fallacy, and it's town aligned. It's a risky claim to make if it wasn't actually his role. If Logic is scum I would've expected him to claim Citizen. #807  So your argument is that he could be mafia ninja or mafia janitor, and claiming Pathetic fallacy, while hoping that Pathetic Fallacy isn't taken as a role. Still seems kind of risky to do as an early claim when he can claim Citizen and disguise himself amongst several others. They would counterclaim you if they are town jail-keeper because then you'd be confirmed mafia jail-keeper. I like that this idea didn't cross your mind. Makes sense if you see yourself as town jail-keeper. If there is a mafia jail-keeper and you are town jail-keeper they wouldn't counterclaim. #829 NewG said:There was a tie between roz and yurkin. Back then I was wondering why he was focusing on yurkin. Not sure what that means now. @Pokeit did you look into yurkin to break the current tie? Or did she genuinely stand out to you? I wasn't aware there was a tie on yurkin as I was writing my post. I wrote my post as I read through the thread. #829Thank-you for clarifying. I understand your points and perspective. It would've been better if NewG responded herself though.Removes logics locktown but still townreads him. The possibility of there being 2 mafia in a single category didn't cross my mind. I assumed there would only be one from each category but that isn't stated anywhere. Maybe Logic isn't locktown based on his claim. Mafia may have 2 members in the Intrigue group. So maybe his claim is fake.. Anyways, besides a few off posts here and there, Logic is a town lean for me behaviourally so I don't doubt his claim. #875 Pokeit said:I was actually townreading Tainted in this post , only mentioned that I didnt like his sheep on me, Pokeit seemed to catch on the bad thing only. @NewG In #238 You said you'd be dissapointed if Tainted was town. Do you see his read on you as scummy behaviour? Whats your read on him? NewG: Yea, didn't really get a scummy vibe from Tainted at the beginning. He still had this baiting carefree playstyle carried over from the Terraformar game. Then Phraze appeared saying I'm not my usual self and then all of a sudden I'm being scumread. Smells fishy no? Later on that vibe for me disappeared and there are a few posts that read town to me. One at a time, I'm not going to focus on him now. Pokeit: Sort of like a scumread sheep? I agree, it is fishy. I will keep that in mind, as I already did find some of Tainteds posts suspicious. Often times experienced players as scum only have a few slip ups throughout a game. Being able to pick them out to form a case is important. Day 2 incoming edit: bold quotes | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:09 PM
#3087
| Vote Count 5.2 NewG (1): Karote Pokeit (1): Wisp-O Wisp-O (1): Pokeit Not Voting: Century, NewG, logic340, Shinichi http://itsalmo.st/#lavieennight5 | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:20 PM
#3088
| NewG said: ISO Pokeit Day 1 #782 Logic claimed in #548 after his train started gaining traction. He claimed Pathetic Fallacy and didn't get counterclaimed so he's locktown.His whole reads list basically show good and bad behaviour of one person. Locktowns logic tho (I believe logic does not have a scumread on him currently either) #791 If I understand it correctly, there can be either mafia or/and town jailkeeper (no counter claim so I beleive only 1 of them). Shinichi-kun could be either.By his logic, Shin should be locktown too, since a jailkeeper can get counterclaimed by the actual jailkeeper too and it is just as risky. By his logic. There's only a single Pathetic Fallacy, and it's town aligned. It's a risky claim to make if it wasn't actually his role. If Logic is scum I would've expected him to claim Citizen. #807  So your argument is that he could be mafia ninja or mafia janitor, and claiming Pathetic fallacy, while hoping that Pathetic Fallacy isn't taken as a role. Still seems kind of risky to do as an early claim when he can claim Citizen and disguise himself amongst several others. They would counterclaim you if they are town jail-keeper because then you'd be confirmed mafia jail-keeper. I like that this idea didn't cross your mind. Makes sense if you see yourself as town jail-keeper. If there is a mafia jail-keeper and you are town jail-keeper they wouldn't counterclaim. #829 NewG said:There was a tie between roz and yurkin. Back then I was wondering why he was focusing on yurkin. Not sure what that means now. @Pokeit did you look into yurkin to break the current tie? Or did she genuinely stand out to you? I wasn't aware there was a tie on yurkin as I was writing my post. I wrote my post as I read through the thread. #829Thank-you for clarifying. I understand your points and perspective. It would've been better if NewG responded herself though.Removes logics locktown but still townreads him. The possibility of there being 2 mafia in a single category didn't cross my mind. I assumed there would only be one from each category but that isn't stated anywhere. Maybe Logic isn't locktown based on his claim. Mafia may have 2 members in the Intrigue group. So maybe his claim is fake.. Anyways, besides a few off posts here and there, Logic is a town lean for me behaviourally so I don't doubt his claim. #875 Pokeit said:I was actually townreading Tainted in this post , only mentioned that I didnt like his sheep on me, Pokeit seemed to catch on the bad thing only. @NewG In #238 You said you'd be dissapointed if Tainted was town. Do you see his read on you as scummy behaviour? Whats your read on him? NewG: Yea, didn't really get a scummy vibe from Tainted at the beginning. He still had this baiting carefree playstyle carried over from the Terraformar game. Then Phraze appeared saying I'm not my usual self and then all of a sudden I'm being scumread. Smells fishy no? Later on that vibe for me disappeared and there are a few posts that read town to me. One at a time, I'm not going to focus on him now. Pokeit: Sort of like a scumread sheep? I agree, it is fishy. I will keep that in mind, as I already did find some of Tainteds posts suspicious. Often times experienced players as scum only have a few slip ups throughout a game. Being able to pick them out to form a case is important. Day 2 incoming edit: bold quotes Actually I forgot to look at Scarlets post... lets see | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:21 PM
#3089
| NewG said:ohh... i forgot too xD NewG said: ISO Pokeit Day 1 #782 Logic claimed in #548 after his train started gaining traction. He claimed Pathetic Fallacy and didn't get counterclaimed so he's locktown. #791 If I understand it correctly, there can be either mafia or/and town jailkeeper (no counter claim so I beleive only 1 of them). Shinichi-kun could be either. There's only a single Pathetic Fallacy, and it's town aligned. It's a risky claim to make if it wasn't actually his role. If Logic is scum I would've expected him to claim Citizen. #807  So your argument is that he could be mafia ninja or mafia janitor, and claiming Pathetic fallacy, while hoping that Pathetic Fallacy isn't taken as a role. Still seems kind of risky to do as an early claim when he can claim Citizen and disguise himself amongst several others. They would counterclaim you if they are town jail-keeper because then you'd be confirmed mafia jail-keeper. I like that this idea didn't cross your mind. Makes sense if you see yourself as town jail-keeper. If there is a mafia jail-keeper and you are town jail-keeper they wouldn't counterclaim. #829 NewG said: @Pokeit did you look into yurkin to break the current tie? Or did she genuinely stand out to you? I wasn't aware there was a tie on yurkin as I was writing my post. I wrote my post as I read through the thread. #829Thank-you for clarifying. I understand your points and perspective. It would've been better if NewG responded herself though. The possibility of there being 2 mafia in a single category didn't cross my mind. I assumed there would only be one from each category but that isn't stated anywhere. Maybe Logic isn't locktown based on his claim. Mafia may have 2 members in the Intrigue group. So maybe his claim is fake.. Anyways, besides a few off posts here and there, Logic is a town lean for me behaviourally so I don't doubt his claim. #875 Pokeit said: @NewG In #238 You said you'd be dissapointed if Tainted was town. Do you see his read on you as scummy behaviour? Whats your read on him? NewG: Yea, didn't really get a scummy vibe from Tainted at the beginning. He still had this baiting carefree playstyle carried over from the Terraformar game. Then Phraze appeared saying I'm not my usual self and then all of a sudden I'm being scumread. Smells fishy no? Later on that vibe for me disappeared and there are a few posts that read town to me. One at a time, I'm not going to focus on him now. Pokeit: Sort of like a scumread sheep? I agree, it is fishy. I will keep that in mind, as I already did find some of Tainteds posts suspicious. Often times experienced players as scum only have a few slip ups throughout a game. Being able to pick them out to form a case is important. Day 2 incoming edit: bold quotes Actually I forgot to look at Scarlets post... lets see | 
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:31 PM
#3090
| Wisp-O said: NewG said:ohh... i forgot too xD NewG said: ISO Pokeit Day 1 #782 Logic claimed in #548 after his train started gaining traction. He claimed Pathetic Fallacy and didn't get counterclaimed so he's locktown.His whole reads list basically show good and bad behaviour of one person. Locktowns logic tho (I believe logic does not have a scumread on him currently either) #791 If I understand it correctly, there can be either mafia or/and town jailkeeper (no counter claim so I beleive only 1 of them). Shinichi-kun could be either.By his logic, Shin should be locktown too, since a jailkeeper can get counterclaimed by the actual jailkeeper too and it is just as risky. By his logic. There's only a single Pathetic Fallacy, and it's town aligned. It's a risky claim to make if it wasn't actually his role. If Logic is scum I would've expected him to claim Citizen. #807  So your argument is that he could be mafia ninja or mafia janitor, and claiming Pathetic fallacy, while hoping that Pathetic Fallacy isn't taken as a role. Still seems kind of risky to do as an early claim when he can claim Citizen and disguise himself amongst several others. They would counterclaim you if they are town jail-keeper because then you'd be confirmed mafia jail-keeper. I like that this idea didn't cross your mind. Makes sense if you see yourself as town jail-keeper. If there is a mafia jail-keeper and you are town jail-keeper they wouldn't counterclaim. #829 NewG said:There was a tie between roz and yurkin. Back then I was wondering why he was focusing on yurkin. Not sure what that means now. @Pokeit did you look into yurkin to break the current tie? Or did she genuinely stand out to you? I wasn't aware there was a tie on yurkin as I was writing my post. I wrote my post as I read through the thread. #829Thank-you for clarifying. I understand your points and perspective. It would've been better if NewG responded herself though.Removes logics locktown but still townreads him. The possibility of there being 2 mafia in a single category didn't cross my mind. I assumed there would only be one from each category but that isn't stated anywhere. Maybe Logic isn't locktown based on his claim. Mafia may have 2 members in the Intrigue group. So maybe his claim is fake.. Anyways, besides a few off posts here and there, Logic is a town lean for me behaviourally so I don't doubt his claim. #875 Pokeit said:I was actually townreading Tainted in this post , only mentioned that I didnt like his sheep on me, Pokeit seemed to catch on the bad thing only. @NewG In #238 You said you'd be dissapointed if Tainted was town. Do you see his read on you as scummy behaviour? Whats your read on him? NewG: Yea, didn't really get a scummy vibe from Tainted at the beginning. He still had this baiting carefree playstyle carried over from the Terraformar game. Then Phraze appeared saying I'm not my usual self and then all of a sudden I'm being scumread. Smells fishy no? Later on that vibe for me disappeared and there are a few posts that read town to me. One at a time, I'm not going to focus on him now. Pokeit: Sort of like a scumread sheep? I agree, it is fishy. I will keep that in mind, as I already did find some of Tainteds posts suspicious. Often times experienced players as scum only have a few slip ups throughout a game. Being able to pick them out to form a case is important. Day 2 incoming edit: bold quotes Actually I forgot to look at Scarlets post... lets see Tainteds D1 posts are interesting too, "bussing/poking" Taker and reading Shin as town. | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:32 PM
#3091
| How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:33 PM
#3092
| So i just thought of something @century_orion u will be neighboring someone tonight, if u dont then ur confirmed scum. At any time u decide not to use your ability you are scum, you honestly cant lie ur way out of this. Tbf this just a precatuion incase a 4th mafia exists. @wisp-o He literally cant night kill its impossible, if he doesnt neighborize he literally confirms himself as scum. | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:34 PM
#3093
| logic340 said: How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? all my ability does is roleblock and protect from night kills, i cant stop people from being affected by abilities cause my jail goes off at the end of the night. | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:35 PM
#3094
| logic340 said:no idea? may be different because he chooses his neighbor during day? cant really confirm the two messages... so how about we dont speculate on that... there would no reason for me two lie about getting either of those... How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:37 PM
#3095
Apr 9, 2018 2:38 PM
#3096
| logic340 said: Century_Orion said:why didn't you neighbor anyone on n3/d4? Neighboring someone during the day D4 would have been a good way to prove what said about your ability D2. I'll be voting in the citizen pile today no need to vote for you yet.i didn't vote D4 because shinichi locked the lynch before I had a chance to determine where I was going to place it. D3 kind of my own fault but I would have voted Taker had the hammer not already happened. logic340 said: @Century_orion you say you neighbored gwen during the day phase of D2 and not N1 correct? Yeah. I forgot to ask at night. Also you say that I'm suspicious, but you haven't voted since D1 (excluding the no-lynch) and that vote you made happened to be against likely town. Forgot. I realized when someone asked me (I think it was either Phraze or Gwen) who I neighbored that day, which was nobody. I immediately sent an action for Wisp but because I opted for another person so late, Penta counted it as a N4 action. | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:40 PM
#3097
| Century_Orion said: logic340 said: Century_Orion said: logic340 said: @Century_orion you say you neighbored gwen during the day phase of D2 and not N1 correct? Yeah. I forgot to ask at night. Also you say that I'm suspicious, but you haven't voted since D1 (excluding the no-lynch) and that vote you made happened to be against likely town. Forgot. I realized when someone asked me (I think it was either Phraze or Gwen) who I neighbored that day, which was nobody. I immediately sent an action for Wisp but because I opted for another person so late, Penta counted it as a N4 action. im confused at this post | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:42 PM
#3098
| Wisp-O said: logic340 said:no idea? may be different because he chooses his neighbor during day? cant really confirm the two messages... so how about we dont speculate on that... there would no reason for me two lie about getting either of those... How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? Let's just ask the effing mod instead of speculating, ffs! @PentaFlare all my ability does is roleblock and protect from night kills, i cant stop people from being affected by abilities cause my jail goes off at the end of the night. Is this true? (maybe he has already answered this and I have Alzheimers) | 
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Apr 9, 2018 2:43 PM
#3099
| NewG said: Wisp-O said: logic340 said: How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? Let's just ask the effing mod instead of speculating, ffs! @PentaFlare all my ability does is roleblock and protect from night kills, i cant stop people from being affected by abilities cause my jail goes off at the end of the night. Is this true? (maybe he has already answered this and I have Alzheimers) i mean it has to be true, i jailed kyle and he was still neighborized | 
Apr 9, 2018 2:43 PM
#3100
| NewG said:I think I've already answered that, but maybe it was only in a PM to one person. The jail ability isn't a commute, just a roleblock and protection Wisp-O said: logic340 said: How does one get neighborized if they are in jail? Let's just ask the effing mod instead of speculating, ffs! @PentaFlare all my ability does is roleblock and protect from night kills, i cant stop people from being affected by abilities cause my jail goes off at the end of the night. Is this true? (maybe he has already answered this and I have Alzheimers) | 
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