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Oct 29, 2017 1:57 AM

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I'm bored :|
@Copy_Bat @yurkin @Dayari
Come join be in the debate over who's evil
And yes, I did go through to see who was actually on

Oct 29, 2017 1:58 AM

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I'm gonna say... democrats
Oct 29, 2017 1:59 AM

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Well I'm not American, but I'll give you that one

Oct 29, 2017 2:03 AM

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Oh god lynch me now Lets try to keep this on topic guys and defiantly not political
Oct 29, 2017 2:06 AM

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Ehh, I was about to post a page-long post how democrats ruin modern world...
Oct 29, 2017 2:10 AM

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By evil I was going for mafia anyways...

Oct 29, 2017 2:16 AM

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So Dayari any idea on who you think is mafia or not?
Oct 29, 2017 2:18 AM

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Not yet, still waiting for someone to say something that would betray them.
Oct 29, 2017 2:31 AM

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You didn't contribute much on day one either, Doesn't that make you worry a little about being a little bit suspicious? And when questioned about who you voted for you only said
Dayari said:
Karote said:


Why?


Eliminating people one by one


That right there makes you pretty sketchy in my eyes.
Oct 29, 2017 2:33 AM

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Hmmm, so you have a better strategy for this game? What would you do in my place if you had no evidence or suspicion?
Oct 29, 2017 2:40 AM

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Yes and no. This game is about figuring out lies and logic and using your role in ethier the town or mafia reach each sides objective. From the Little bit you have contributed and your word choice of "Eliminating people one by one" that aligns you more towards the mafia in my eyes.
Oct 29, 2017 2:44 AM

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I'm siding with Smaug on this one, I'd advise reading through the comments to see if you can find any one who looks to be mafia, if you have no other leads.
The prolonged silence as well as what Smaug mentioned does make you sound pretty suspicious.

Oct 29, 2017 2:47 AM

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@Anetheia I had to vote around then just in case I couldn't go back to my computer. I had a real life thing, also known as "My mama wanted me to watch Celebrity Hunted with her."

@Dayari just try to be a bit more active today, kay?

Final point, the question we need the answer to is this:

What does the mafia gain by killing off Tainted?
Oct 29, 2017 2:51 AM

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Still fairly new to mafia games so i wasn't sure if they are aware of our roles if they can then they would have been aware Tainted was able to protect someone at night so taking him out first helps guarantee they would be able to make a kill during the night.
Oct 29, 2017 2:54 AM

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Hmm, well Tainted was pretty vocal, since there has been issues with activity (me included because I have odd hours) that a few people have pointed out it would be better for mafia to target the active right?
It is a bit annoying, I really want to figure out who is mafia but don't want to be the one they kill off next X( which means being cautious

Anywho, I've got homework to do so I'll be on and off, I'll try to refresh every half hour or so. Just mention me if you want me :)

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Correction: Real life thing after my post at 9:52. I voted an hour before that and stayed on because I thought we were going to end up watching it at 9. It kept getting pushed back until 10.
Oct 29, 2017 2:57 AM

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See ya, Anetheia!
Oct 29, 2017 3:00 AM

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Was it possible for mafia to know Tainted's skill?
Oct 29, 2017 3:00 AM

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I don't think the activity factored in although that could be true. If it is I am on the chopping block for them and day 2 just started xD
Oct 29, 2017 3:00 AM

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Question: @Karote you said to me that you'd vote for someone later, but you didn't vote at all. Why?
Oct 29, 2017 3:02 AM

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@SmaugBaggins: none of the mafia have abilities to discover another player's ability. The mafia will know each other and their roles, but none of the blue faction's.
Oct 29, 2017 3:11 AM

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hmmmm that rules out that possibility then. Which only heightens me suspecting Yurkin.
As @Anetheia Pointed out they did seem as though they had a grudge against Tainted.
If you dislike someone it makes it easier to not trust what they say.
Tainted could also be right in their guess on who is part of the mafia and was eliminated for it.
Oct 29, 2017 3:16 AM

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@SmaugBaggins yeah Yurkin is seeming more and more suspicious to me
Who else was Tainted against again?? Thats something to look into
There were people more vocal than Tainted as well, but none of them got killed off so...

Oct 29, 2017 3:20 AM
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Catching up.
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SmaugBaggins said:
hmmmm that rules out that possibility then. Which only heightens me suspecting Yurkin.
As @Anetheia Pointed out they did seem as though they had a grudge against Tainted.
If you dislike someone it makes it easier to not trust what they say.
Tainted could also be right in their guess on who is part of the mafia and was eliminated for it.

underlined - quote me where i show or display a "grudge" against tainted. Post number# pls~
Thats some random mud throwing, and it doesn't look good.

Bolded - actually tainted did not mentioned who he suspect, at the end he stayed silent. Soo which "guess" you mean exactly?
Oct 29, 2017 3:30 AM

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@SmaugBaggins yeah Yurkin is seeming more and more suspicious to me
Who else was Tainted against again?? Thats something to look into
There were people more vocal than Tainted as well, but none of them got killed off so...

Elaborate on to why you suspect me.

edit: hidded triple quote lol
Oct 29, 2017 3:31 AM

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@Anetheia

Tainted mentioned that they had suspicion of someone, though we don't know who. A lot of their grudges tended to be pointed at @Karote and the inactives, though.
Oct 29, 2017 3:33 AM
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@Phraze @century100 what do you think of the players so far?
Oct 29, 2017 3:35 AM

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Post #279

Post #286

Evidence that they didn't like the inactives and was suspicious of Karote.
Oct 29, 2017 3:43 AM

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Post #189 and Post #215 @yurkin With no prior interaction with you and tainted and being busy most of day one looking back at it i would look to me as it was a grudge.

That being said i also dont believe in hopping on a vote train just because in my eyes it would be better not to vote.
Oct 29, 2017 3:44 AM

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Is it possible nobody gets lynched?
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SmaugBaggins said:
Thank you for collecting that info @Anetheia.
The two people i am worried about are @Abuhumaid because he was strongly against the tie even if there isnt a freddy a tie wouldnt have hurt much especially since it was only day 1 and @Yurkin who even tho they explained their choice in words still has me feeling sketch about.

I think the best action atm is to wait for more of the town to wake up and see their reactions before we continue to point fingers.

(Its 3:44am for me i am a night owl)


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How is being against constantly tieing the votes suspicious? Do you even think that would work?
Oct 29, 2017 3:50 AM

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Hmm... Someone's really being suspicious as I observed though
Oct 29, 2017 3:51 AM

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@yurkin
Sorry can't quote directly, don't know how to link to pages.

At the beginning you and Tainted didn't seem to speak much, nothing really positive but nothing negative either.

When a train started against Tainted you "On it. I approve this one ;3" #189 with what seems to be not much provocation

After that you two seemed to be in a bit of a fight:

yurkin said:
Tainted said:

I doubt it I bet the red team will ride the Tainted-vote train like you did.

...Guilt shaming won't lead you anywhere.

Do something about it if ur town!

Btw side note this game missed rvs, and i would have voted you since ur 1st post.


And later you questioned anyone who 'liked' tainted #263 & #266

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@Anetheia @SmaugBaggins @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @yurkin @Karote @Dayari @abhutrash @TribstyAnn @century100 @Kekkokikkuya @Copy_Bat
Do you think there was mafia on Otakou's train?
And why do you think Tainted was killed?
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What'cha got @Kekkokikkuya?
Oct 29, 2017 3:52 AM
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Kekkokikkuya said:
Hmm... Someone's really being suspicious as I observed though
And that is....?
Oct 29, 2017 3:54 AM
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SmaugBaggins said:
Still fairly new to mafia games so i wasn't sure if they are aware of our roles if they can then they would have been aware Tainted was able to protect someone at night so taking him out first helps guarantee they would be able to make a kill during the night.
Mafia doesn't know who's who, they would be invincible that way.
Oct 29, 2017 3:54 AM

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@AbuHumaid if you go back to #396 I've looked at everyone who voted yesterday, I think mafia were definitely part of Otakou's lynching.

I think Tainted was killed because they spoke out a lot, but others like you and @abhutrash spoke out as well and didn't get killed. Brings into question what made Tainted different.

Oct 29, 2017 3:57 AM

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@AbuHumaid

The sneakiest people to do with that train are @abhutrash and @Dayari (though the latter can be explained as an apathetic attitude toward the game and odd timezones...)

@abhutrash is suspicious to me because they were the first to vote for them. I voted second, as I thought Otaku090 was slightly suspicious and I wanted to get rid of a semi-active player who only tries to slip by. Then, once a few people had voted abhutrash changed votes.

However, this is only by a single perspective. I'd rather hear abhutrash's reasoning and other people's views before I come to a conclusion.
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SmaugBaggins said:
hmmmm that rules out that possibility then. Which only heightens me suspecting Yurkin.
As @Anetheia Pointed out they did seem as though they had a grudge against Tainted.
If you dislike someone it makes it easier to not trust what they say.
Tainted could also be right in their guess on who is part of the mafia and was eliminated for it.
This doesn't make sense, Karote and I have argued with Tainted, why yurkin exactly?
Oct 29, 2017 4:01 AM

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SmaugBaggins said:
Post #189 and Post #215 @yurkin With no prior interaction with you and tainted and being busy most of day one looking back at it i would look to me as it was a grudge.

That being said i also dont believe in hopping on a vote train just because in my eyes it would be better not to vote.

I can do whatever i want with my vote thank you. Voting is part of the game.

And where is the "grudge" you speak about?
Me voting tainted?
Me mentioning i thought to vote him in rvs?

Explain further.
Oct 29, 2017 4:02 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
SmaugBaggins said:
Thank you for collecting that info @Anetheia.
The two people i am worried about are @Abuhumaid because he was strongly against the tie even if there isnt a freddy a tie wouldnt have hurt much especially since it was only day 1 and @Yurkin who even tho they explained their choice in words still has me feeling sketch about.

I think the best action atm is to wait for more of the town to wake up and see their reactions before we continue to point fingers.

(Its 3:44am for me i am a night owl)


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How is being against constantly tieing the votes suspicious? Do you even think that would work?



From what i understand of the game if the votes tied Freddy if there is one would have been lynched if there wasnt one noone would have been lynched. There is a risk involved with that stratagy but i believe it would have worked.


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@Anetheia @SmaugBaggins @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @yurkin @Karote @Dayari @abhutrash @TribstyAnn @century100 @Kekkokikkuya @Copy_Bat
Do you think there was mafia on Otakou's train?
And why do you think Tainted was killed?


I already stated why i think Tainted was killed a little ways up as to if there was mafia on otakou's train yes i do. Do i think the reason to Vote him was the right thing to do no not at all.
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Anetheia said:
@SmaugBaggins yeah Yurkin is seeming more and more suspicious to me
Who else was Tainted against again?? Thats something to look into
There were people more vocal than Tainted as well, but none of them got killed off so...
I don't think mafia took activity into consideration when they killed Tainted, as there was people more active than him.
Oct 29, 2017 4:04 AM

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@AbhHumaid
Do you have any ideas as to why mafia was against Tainted?

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AbuHumaid said:
@Anetheia @SmaugBaggins @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @yurkin @Karote @Dayari @abhutrash @TribstyAnn @century100 @Kekkokikkuya @Copy_Bat
Do you think there was mafia on Otakou's train?
And why do you think Tainted was killed?


Almost everyone went with the train for Otakou. It's probable that mafia was there, but I'm just guessing.
Tainted talked a lot about suspecting somebody, maybe that's what killed her/him.
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@SmaugBaggins I don't think activity was a factor because I, Abu and Karote were much more active.

TBH I thought I would have gotten killed for how active I was by the mafia, so it's probably nothing to do with that.
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AbuHumaid said:
SmaugBaggins said:
hmmmm that rules out that possibility then. Which only heightens me suspecting Yurkin.
As @Anetheia Pointed out they did seem as though they had a grudge against Tainted.
If you dislike someone it makes it easier to not trust what they say.
Tainted could also be right in their guess on who is part of the mafia and was eliminated for it.
This doesn't make sense, Karote and I have argued with Tainted, why yurkin exactly?


There was tons of time to change the vote which both you and Karote did. Also as was stated before i wasn't super active day 1 (which i will agree even with my family emergency i could have weighed in more.) From what they have said since then i have also trusted them less a
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SmaugBaggins said:
AbuHumaid said:
How is being against constantly tieing the votes suspicious? Do you even think that would work?



From what i understand of the game if the votes tied Freddy if there is one would have been lynched if there wasnt one noone would have been lynched. There is a risk involved with that stratagy but i believe it would have worked.


AbuHumaid said:
@Anetheia @SmaugBaggins @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @yurkin @Karote @Dayari @abhutrash @TribstyAnn @century100 @Kekkokikkuya @Copy_Bat
Do you think there was mafia on Otakou's train?
And why do you think Tainted was killed?


I already stated why i think Tainted was killed a little ways up as to if there was mafia on otakou's train yes i do. Do i think the reason to Vote him was the right thing to do no not at all.
We can tie the votes whenever we see ourselves not going anywhere with the discussion by the end of the Day, but using this strategy from the get go isn't a good idea lynching is a valuable weapon town has, for example, Oakou's lynch look at how it raised discussion and made everyone engage somehow. And we aren't even sure if that role is in play.
Remember, i'm all for the all tied votes if we fin ourselves clueless.

Interesting, can you name the most suspicious person on Otakou's train and make a read about them?
Oct 29, 2017 4:19 AM

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Anetheia's #434 "And later you questioned anyone "liked" tainted #263 & #266."

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for referrece the said posts:
yurk #263 "what do you like about tained?"
yurk #266 "Meaning why you town read tained? You want to save him after all."
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"anyone" - blatant false lie. I questioned ann only.

"liked" - except like means "town read". And grudge is assuming something personal, which is untrue.

So, anetheia, explain what is wrong with questioning a player about their opinion on another player!
This is all in-game terms, so coming at me with non-existent in reality "grudge" as an argument is laughable.
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