LucianRoy said: coromandel said: I know that, which is why I asked him these questions above the quote. Bad logic doesn't necessarily mean someone's scum, but scum do often use weak reasoning to justify their vote. Because they don't actually analyze, they're trying to come up with a reason to vote someone. I realize this, but why do you think scum!conqueror would be attempting to do that in this situation? I thought, maybe it's to set you up - so people would suspect you after his death. Not sure about this part - but his thought process (suspecting zymf/grrr) doesn't read town to me at all. |
| @LucianRoy @Logic, thoughts on the above posts by Kit. I see where you are coming from with non-committal. Her thoughts on TheConq don't really say much of anything really and it doesn't end in a clearly defined read of Town, scum, neutral. Leaving us to guess at the answer or ask her again? Also I am not really seeing how he not remember what coro said leads to coro being in the town area? I am having trouble seeing the impression left by coro which makes me uneasy about putting her that high up? I honestly get more of a Sailor Moon Mafia vibe from coro here where she was my teammate but that is just meta and I have no town game to compare it against. |
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coromandel said: While it doesn't strike me as definite town either it looks like something scum wouldn't necesarilly want to do. He drew himself some attention and could have moved off zymf to a less active player that people wouldn't have suspected as much. Instead he chooses to stay on the hot topic but also changes to grrr. I explained why I felt grrr could be town lying about his role but that was me kind of WIFOMing myself. I could see the TPR motivation behind grrr's play not but still cannot see the scum motivation.LucianRoy said: I realize this, but why do you think scum!conqueror would be attempting to do that in this situation? I thought, maybe it's to set you up - so people would suspect you after his death. Not sure about this part - but his thought process (suspecting zymf/grrr) doesn't read town to me at all. |
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Kit said: @coromandel I would like for you to share your thoughts on this post if you haven't already? I feel like kit is a viable lynch option for today and I want to know where you currently stand on her?town to scum logic - town logic, shows a lot of effort for solving the game re - it's easy to follow her mindset and seems to have town thinking coro - don't understand the votes here i think her posts show reason although i dont remember her posting a lot abu - not so active, so he must be bored cause he got town --will vote below here-- wisp - here n there with him but like that he is active at least, could just need more time skittle - ??? conq - under my radar but i dont immediately think he's scummy karote - ???? lamby - confusing and abrasive as usual grr - tpr probably lying, but could be town fake claiming zymf - tpr, if lying then not town yurk - bad feeling floof - they went back to talking about the mechanics stuff that happened at the very beginning , not really alignments. appearance of doing something? lucianroy - ok, the more i read from him the more susp i feel about him. I think he nudged logic in the beginning as a way to test the waters, look like he's doing something, and to turn around on logic and end up buddying him and ever since then they are like a pair that everyone automatically town reads. It makes me think of other games i've played where scum buddy a town after pushing them and backing off :s Vote: LucianRoy @logic340 @RE1031 can you tell me why lucian is town, since this seems to be the consensus? also what do you think of floof? @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy why vote coro? @karote @floofs @mrskittles94 you guys going to vote at all? we have less than half a day left. you have even 1 scum read? @grrr @zymf you guys are just voting each other.. do you not have better scum reads than just your opposite claim? |
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Dunno, I can just say I'm more likely to believe Zymf over grr and I think grr goal is not to lynch Zymf but something else. I'm townreading RE, her posts seem town-ish imo. Suspecting Kit kind of, her posts seem full of participating but the content isn't actually much. For example she scumreads Lucian for buddying up with Logic after going after him and then everyone townreads them both which reminds her of past mafia games. Alright well, I think coro explained well why it's not that scummy for Lucian to back off. Just because something in other mafia games, doesn't always guarantee happen same here so that scumread feels weak. Altough most people |
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logic340 said: @LucianRoy @Logic, thoughts on the above posts by Kit. I see where you are coming from with non-committal. Her thoughts on TheConq don't really say much of anything really and it doesn't end in a clearly defined read of Town, scum, neutral. Leaving us to guess at the answer or ask her again? Also I am not really seeing how he not remember what coro said leads to coro being in the town area? I am having trouble seeing the impression left by coro which makes me uneasy about putting her that high up? I honestly get more of a Sailor Moon Mafia vibe from coro here where she was my teammate but that is just meta and I have no town game to compare it against. Care to explain this part? |
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Karote said: Dunno, I can just say I'm more likely to believe Zymf over grr and I think grr goal is not to lynch Zymf but something else. I'm townreading RE, her posts seem town-ish imo. Suspecting Kit kind of, her posts seem full of participating but the content isn't actually much. For example she scumreads Lucian for buddying up with Logic after going after him and then everyone townreads them both which reminds her of past mafia games. Alright well, I think coro explained well why it's not that scummy for Lucian to back off. Just because something in other mafia games, doesn't always guarantee happen same here so that scumread feels weak. Altough most people What specifically about Kit's posts? You have yet to make a vote today iirc. |
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grrr said: I dont mind draw votes. My ability has condition for draw votes. If we have draw votes (and zymf is one of the draw ones, I kill him tonight. Wait what? Ok.... Thanks for letting us know that. inb4 grr attempts to tie any trains that develop. We might need to play around this. --- Laby-Gaga said: Why thank you, would also vote below bin.... someone needs to get necked :'< Vote: Kit Preferably, a bit more explanation in what you saw that made Kit scummy would be nice. --- @All, opinions on Coro/Conq. --- coromandel said: LucianRoy said: I realize this, but why do you think scum!conqueror would be attempting to do that in this situation? I thought, maybe it's to set you up - so people would suspect you after his death. Not sure about this part - but his thought process (suspecting zymf/grrr) doesn't read town to me at all. Ok. I'm interested in hearing what Conq has to say about this. I'm still not sure I causaully see his actions coming from scum. His logic/thought process may be incorrect, but I'm not completely sure he was really going for "an easy lynch" as you described it in that situation because he seems to be really trying to work out and solve Zymf/Grr in the dialogue that we had. Do you have any other scumreads? --- logic340 said: @LucianRoy @Logic, thoughts on the above posts by Kit. I see where you are coming from with non-committal. Her thoughts on TheConq don't really say much of anything really and it doesn't end in a clearly defined read of Town, scum, neutral. Leaving us to guess at the answer or ask her again? Also I am not really seeing how he not remember what coro said leads to coro being in the town area? I am having trouble seeing the impression left by coro which makes me uneasy about putting her that high up? I honestly get more of a Sailor Moon Mafia vibe from coro here where she was my teammate but that is just meta and I have no town game to compare it against. I could be swayed to vote Kit as we approach EoD. I don't like the tone of the posts I pointed out previously in which they point out lots of attributes/do a bunch of analysis on players only to come to no real conclusion on their alignment. In essence, I could easily see those posts coming from scum attempting to contrive reasoning for their reads. There are two competing wagons atm on players I think are viable lynch options. We're currently leading both. The question is, which wagon should we consolidate on in order to provide a lynch if we come down to an EoD scramble? Your train currently has more votes. |
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logic340 said: coromandel said: While it doesn't strike me as definite town either it looks like something scum wouldn't necesarilly want to do. He drew himself some attention and could have moved off zymf to a less active player that people wouldn't have suspected as much. Instead he chooses to stay on the hot topic but also changes to grrr. I explained why I felt grrr could be town lying about his role but that was me kind of WIFOMing myself. I could see the TPR motivation behind grrr's play not but still cannot see the scum motivation.I thought, maybe it's to set you up - so people would suspect you after his death. Not sure about this part - but his thought process (suspecting zymf/grrr) doesn't read town to me at all. Most people seem to suspect grrr or at least not trust him very much. So I don't think theConquerer's vote for grrr is particularly daring, tbh. What do you think of what I said here? |
LucianRoy said: Karote said: Dunno, I can just say I'm more likely to believe Zymf over grr and I think grr goal is not to lynch Zymf but something else. I'm townreading RE, her posts seem town-ish imo. Suspecting Kit kind of, her posts seem full of participating but the content isn't actually much. For example she scumreads Lucian for buddying up with Logic after going after him and then everyone townreads them both which reminds her of past mafia games. Alright well, I think coro explained well why it's not that scummy for Lucian to back off. Just because something in other mafia games, doesn't always guarantee happen same here so that scumread feels weak. Altough most people What specifically about Kit's posts? You have yet to make a vote today iirc. She posts a lot (in first few pages at least) but nothing of it is much of helping to catch scum. I know. |
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LucianRoy said: grrr said: You don't even know my win condition but you talk about what would be optimal for the other lover to do? Not to mention you don't know his win condition either. And of course I will not give my full claim in order to improve my chance to get to my win condition which may or not be harmful to town. It was more like what would be optimal for town. --- grrr said: Tristan Faust - "Zymf's target" *squint* How are you privy to this information? yurkin said: coro's #365 "if pressure is not you thing how do you look for the mafia? What's your playstyle like? Because i believe this is the first time we've played together." Or more like you have some set expectations of what is "red flag" and what not, i dislike that, for me they are no definite universal tells. i d say these questions of yours show how diffrent we are. Like lucianroy described your questioning on me as a push, maybe i just dislike using the words itself - push and pressure; thats it a difference in the wording probably. I' can't see asking someone outright about their playstyle either, even if i have not played previously with them, id enjoy finding out by myself how each player playstyle looks like. If youre more interested in sheer meta data you can ask logic, he had played many games with me. ;3 Or do you really want me to give you specific explanation of whats my playstyle like, coro? Despite this being somewhat anti-town, a bit of a roundabout way to play, and self-meta, I feel like there's actual conviction here. Not something I feel scum would bs/fake. Slight townread on Yurkin. It comes off as confident. New-player confident. --- yurkin said: Btw i see abu and floofs being placed in neutral list of some. Just saying i town read both of them. Abu's scum and town voice/tone its too easy to distinguish, in other words imo abu as obv.town here. And i really like floofs recent posts. And i see coro and roy's trajectory of thought as questionable, i mean the defending of zymfs lynch just to have more informative lynch pings me in a wrong way. :/ Side note: man, i feel kinda reckless in this game, due to the deadchat rule and other stuffs lol. Most of what floofs has posted so far has been NAI imo. Except for possibly 416 and obv his one neutral read on me. What specifically did you like about them? Same with Abu, with the exception of his read on me. If my trajectory is questionable, what are your questions? Keep in mind that Zymf is claimed scum, so there are some very good reasons we really shouldn't bother lynching him. He's at one stage in the game, we're at another. We're on the ground looking for scum, he probably is scum and is thinking about ways to end-game. If any of the prior reasons I pointed out feel like scum buddy defending a scumbuddy, please point them out to me. --- RE1031 said: To be honest, I don't think it's that significant. You and logic were kind of at each other's throats, which is why your post count was pretty high. At the time, there wasn't actually a lot to go on (at least I didn't think so). Was there anyone who stood out to you besides logic at the time? Kit stood out to me for their plethora of NAI posts. There is always a lot to go on, you just gotta look for it. --- Floofs is going to the trouble of digging up and analyzing very old pieces of the game, (in relation to today), when I'm much more curious on any current thoughts they could have. @Floofs, so, about reads, would you have anyone who falls into the category of a 'scumread'? I notice you have not voted today. Kit- Still don't like post #54 Conquer- I don't like post #339. It felt like conquer wanted to switch topics to zymf and grr and did't wat to further the conversation with Lucian about logic. |
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logic340 said: Karote said: I was really hoping that you would share your thoughts and maybe place a vote once you caught up rather than just saying "I catched up" we have about 3 hours until phase change and you have no posts that would count towards the actual post requirement. I catched up. • Players will be expected to post 5 times each Day Phase. Players who fail to meet this requirement will be prodded during night phase, and failure to respond will result in a modkill or replacement the following day. @Karote You are already hard to read this isn't making it any easier. Is there anyone worth voting? What are your thoughts on Abu still voting you with his RVS this late in the stage? Thoughts on Zymf and whether we should lynch or let him live another day? Do you see Lucian as town or scum? Yeah, I know the rules. I'm not gonna be here for phase change because I'm meeting somebody but perhaps they will get bored of me fast enough and I can go home, lol. There is, grr situation to stop the 3rd party talk and clear some things out. Kit, posted about her before. Lazy scumbag, pressure him at some point pls. Let Zymf live, I believe him. Small town read, not 100% sure tbh. |
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coromandel said: While I wouoldnt call it daring he still did it in a way that I feel scum wouldn't be as apt to do. I could be wrong but this is how I feel about it currently. TL on TheConq from me. logic340 said: While it doesn't strike me as definite town either it looks like something scum wouldn't necesarilly want to do. He drew himself some attention and could have moved off zymf to a less active player that people wouldn't have suspected as much. Instead he chooses to stay on the hot topic but also changes to grrr. I explained why I felt grrr could be town lying about his role but that was me kind of WIFOMing myself. I could see the TPR motivation behind grrr's play not but still cannot see the scum motivation. Most people seem to suspect grrr or at least not trust him very much. So I don't think theConquerer's vote for grrr is particularly daring, tbh. What do you think of what I said here? coromandel said: Similarly to there you aren't really out from but your not among the inactives either. You say things that look good and sound townie but I am not sure if they are coming from a place of having information or townie motivating. I don't know if you are someone who plays similar meta as both alignments so while I do see somethings that feel similar to SMM it's nothing conclusive enough for me to be confident calling you scum, that being said I am not comfortable moving you to the town side so you still reside in neutral. logic340 said: @LucianRoy I see where you are coming from with non-committal. Her thoughts on TheConq don't really say much of anything really and it doesn't end in a clearly defined read of Town, scum, neutral. Leaving us to guess at the answer or ask her again? Also I am not really seeing how he not remember what coro said leads to coro being in the town area? I am having trouble seeing the impression left by coro which makes me uneasy about putting her that high up? I honestly get more of a Sailor Moon Mafia vibe from coro here where she was my teammate but that is just meta and I have no town game to compare it against. Care to explain this part? |
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logic340 said: Kit said: @coromandel I would like for you to share your thoughts on this post if you haven't already? I feel like kit is a viable lynch option for today and I want to know where you currently stand on her?town to scum logic - town logic, shows a lot of effort for solving the game re - it's easy to follow her mindset and seems to have town thinking coro - don't understand the votes here i think her posts show reason although i dont remember her posting a lot abu - not so active, so he must be bored cause he got town --will vote below here-- wisp - here n there with him but like that he is active at least, could just need more time skittle - ??? conq - under my radar but i dont immediately think he's scummy karote - ???? lamby - confusing and abrasive as usual grr - tpr probably lying, but could be town fake claiming zymf - tpr, if lying then not town yurk - bad feeling floof - they went back to talking about the mechanics stuff that happened at the very beginning , not really alignments. appearance of doing something? lucianroy - ok, the more i read from him the more susp i feel about him. I think he nudged logic in the beginning as a way to test the waters, look like he's doing something, and to turn around on logic and end up buddying him and ever since then they are like a pair that everyone automatically town reads. It makes me think of other games i've played where scum buddy a town after pushing them and backing off :s Vote: LucianRoy @logic340 @RE1031 can you tell me why lucian is town, since this seems to be the consensus? also what do you think of floof? @lastwhisper31 @lucianroy why vote coro? @karote @floofs @mrskittles94 you guys going to vote at all? we have less than half a day left. you have even 1 scum read? @grrr @zymf you guys are just voting each other.. do you not have better scum reads than just your opposite claim? I agree with some of it, but those reads are pretty shallow overall. I can sort of understand why she seems suspicious of Lucian. Although I don't agree with Kit here, because I know Lucian does this when he's town as well - but the buddying is there. I find this more shady - why's Kit being so vague here? LucianRoy said: Kit said: I think he's playing rather relaxed, though I suppose he's always like that.. I can't recall if I've ever played with him besides when he was scum. I don't think he seems to be forcing a lynch though, more like exploring options Again, you say a lot of nothing here. I feel as if this is a reocurring theme in the game because I have definitely brought it up before. It rubs me the wrong way. Your post just comes off as non-committal when you just pointed out conqueror being a townread of yours. Why not say, "I read him as a TL for ____ reason" instead of making overarching statements like these? "more like exploring options" - hm? Kit's not my #1 suspect, but I'm not town-reading her either. |
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Floofs said: vote:kit Voting and dipping I see? Hmm. --- coromandel said: I find this more shady - why's Kit being so vague here? LucianRoy said: Again, you say a lot of nothing here. I feel as if this is a reocurring theme in the game because I have definitely brought it up before. It rubs me the wrong way. Your post just comes off as non-committal when you just pointed out conqueror being a townread of yours. Why not say, "I read him as a TL for ____ reason" instead of making overarching statements like these? "more like exploring options" - hm? Kit's not my #1 suspect, but I'm not town-reading her either. Your comments here feel opportunistic and scummy in the context of it being 16 minutes to EoD1. My vote stays. |
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logic340 said: I will be away for about an hour. Will be taking my lunch break at 11 so I can be around for phase change. I don't think we reached the threshold for people extending the phase iirc? |
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Vote Count 1.6 Kit (4): yurkin, Logic, Laby, Floofs grrr (3): Zymf, TheConquerer, karote Coromandel (2): Lucian, Last Zymf (1): grrr TheConquerer (1): coromandel Karote (1): AbuHumaid Lucian (1): Kit Not Voting: MrSkittles, re1031 let me know if this is correct |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Phase change will be at 12 pm est, so 2 hours from the original deadline since 6 people voted to increase it. Oh, nvm then. |
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LucianRoy said: logic340 said: I will be away for about an hour. Will be taking my lunch break at 11 so I can be around for phase change. I don't think we reached the threshold for people extending the phase iirc? we did 6 people said ok |
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LucianRoy said: coromandel said: I find this more shady - why's Kit being so vague here? "more like exploring options" - hm? Kit's not my #1 suspect, but I'm not town-reading her either. Your comments here feel opportunistic and scummy in the context of it being 16 minutes to EoD1. My vote stays. Even not in the context of 16 minutes to EoD, I still find this opportunistic and scummy. Where do you currently stand on your Conq read? |
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logic340 said: Similarly to there you aren't really out from but your not among the inactives either. You say things that look good and sound townie but I am not sure if they are coming from a place of having information or townie motivating. I don't know if you are someone who plays similar meta as both alignments so while I do see somethings that feel similar to SMM it's nothing conclusive enough for me to be confident calling you scum, that being said I am not comfortable moving you to the town side so you still reside in neutral. I'll take that as a compliment, because that's what I've been trying to do lately. :3 (In the past I used to play very differently as town, and it'd be too obvious when I was scum.) LucianRoy said: coromandel said: I thought, maybe it's to set you up - so people would suspect you after his death. Not sure about this part - but his thought process (suspecting zymf/grrr) doesn't read town to me at all. Ok. I'm interested in hearing what Conq has to say about this. I'm still not sure I causaully see his actions coming from scum. His logic/thought process may be incorrect, but I'm not completely sure he was really going for "an easy lynch" as you described it in that situation because he seems to be really trying to work out and solve Zymf/Grr in the dialogue that we had. Do you have any other scumreads? I didn't get the same impression as you, but how he counter-claimed your flavor made me think for a moment at least. My other scum read would be lastwhisper. Her vote for Zymf seemed sketchy and out of place, and she voted for me just when people started to suspect me - w/o explaining why. Neutral - scummy Yurkin: I initially liked how confidently he replied to me but then there's this aggressive undertones in some of his posts sometimes, like he feels we're enemies? >.> I don't get where it's coming from. When I asked about his playstyle, he wouldn't tell me anything, which makes me wonder if he's afraid of revealing things about himself. So, while he's not my top pick, I can still see myself voting for Yurkin today. I'm not sure about Kit. He's posted more than Lamby, Karote etc. but I can't get a good read on her. Not getting town vibes, but she's not super scummy either. I would vote for Kit if I had to decide between her and someone that isn't theConquerer/lastwhisper/Yurkin. |
| Ok, tho honestly what is there in that post to answer to... coro #453 "you are right that i'm someone who likes to pressure other with my vote" - Nah, i have never mentioned about you like to do, so no way i could be right. "basically, i'd like to know how you're approaching a mafia game when you're town" - Im town now, you can judge by youself what the way i appoach the game in you eyes. "what your mindset is when you're looking at all the players to figure out who's bad." -that is pretty much something that change, its not a constant. idk what the hell you want to dig from all that. There were nothing i saw a needs to be answered there. "i want to figure out *why* you're doing things the way you to to find out what you intention are." Well, i try to figure out you intentions here as well. Thats what the game is all about. And whats the general purpose of that post, what you are trying to accomplish with all this. |
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Floofs said: Not much of a response for everything that has happened in your absence?Kit- Still don't like post #54 Conquer- I don't like post #339. It felt like conquer wanted to switch topics to zymf and grr and did't wat to further the conversation with Lucian about logic. Floofs said: I really don't like this at all. You post like one post (two in this case) then dip out. It's making it really hard to get a bead on your and the action in itself seems scummy at least at the surface level. I was really liking this train but now not so much, please help clear yourself if you are in fact town. vote:kit |
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LucianRoy said: Floofs said: vote:kit Voting and dipping I see? Hmm. --- coromandel said: I find this more shady - why's Kit being so vague here? "more like exploring options" - hm? Kit's not my #1 suspect, but I'm not town-reading her either. Your comments here feel opportunistic and scummy in the context of it being 16 minutes to EoD1. My vote stays. Not my #1 suspect, as I said. It's more about who else is scummier than Kit, and there aren't many players who I'd put into that category. Simply because most are in the neutral pile. How do you feel about lastwhisper? |
yurkin said: Ok, tho honestly what is there in that post to answer to... coro #453 "you are right that i'm someone who likes to pressure other with my vote" - Nah, i have never mentioned about you like to do, so no way i could be right. "basically, i'd like to know how you're approaching a mafia game when you're town" - Im town now, you can judge by youself what the way i appoach the game in you eyes. "what your mindset is when you're looking at all the players to figure out who's bad." -that is pretty much something that change, its not a constant. idk what the hell you want to dig from all that. There were nothing i saw a needs to be answered there. "i want to figure out *why* you're doing things the way you to to find out what you intention are." Well, i try to figure out you intentions here as well. Thats what the game is all about. And whats the general purpose of that post, what you are trying to accomplish with all this. The purpose was to see if you'd reveal something about yourself. |
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LucianRoy said: Floofs said: vote:kit Voting and dipping I see? Hmm. --- coromandel said: I find this more shady - why's Kit being so vague here? "more like exploring options" - hm? Kit's not my #1 suspect, but I'm not town-reading her either. Your comments here feel opportunistic and scummy in the context of it being 16 minutes to EoD1. My vote stays. Nope. Still here. Answering previously ask questions |
logic340 said: Floofs said: I did. The game started at post 32. This is form post number 56. From post 32 of the game to post number 56, TheConquerer did not say anything about no lynch and Laby hasn't post yet. If you are correct in the assumption that Kit was asking Abu why RVS no lynch bothers him, where from post 32 to 56 does Abu seem bothered (worried or upset) by no lynch? Abu stated their opinion. It was something that they would rather not vote for. Just because someone doesn't like to do something, doesn't mean that they expect other people to do the same thing. I don't like to participate in RVS. I'd rather wait to get some reads and then vote on someone. Should I be bothered by anyone who participates in RVS? No. So where does this "bothered" come from because I don't see it And yes, I agree that it is a conversation starter, but it is an opinionated conversation starter that I don't find alignment indicative. People take a stance on RVS, no lynch or to not participate and state why they think that way. The merit to this conversation is that it gives you an insight to how someone thinks. That is why I think you repeatedly ask this question at the beginning of games. Bolded: Laby didn't finally enter the thread until page #6 so obviously I couldn't have been talking about page 1 when brining him up. TheConquerer was away for even longer than that after his initial RVS vote so it's clear I want talking about him either. I'm really curious to know how you could misinterpret that given their activity? 1. If you want to be technical about the wording tell me what you think it means for mine and kit's alignment? Basically in #43 he says it's something he'd rather not vote for so early. I believe Kit's question was an attempt to find out why that is. To which Abu answered with this "it's really not bothering me, i'm talking about the option "no lynch" in general not about Logic's vote" in #152. I don't think anyone was expecting him to do the same thing but I do feel that Kit and I are warranted in trying to find out why his opinion is what it is. You can't just "this is how I feel deal with it" you have to justify those words and then your actions have to meet them. You are looking at one step of a multistep process. Again I feel you are being to technical with the word bother and overlooking the motive behind it unless you are saying the use of the word "bother" was in some way trying to make Abu look scummy which you would need to explain. 2. Opinionated conversation starters are not alignment indicative? How else do you get a read on people if they don't give their opinions on certain things. Some may be NAI but there is plenty of Alignment indicative posting from me. I'd trying to drive the game out of RVS should be some indication (though i am surely biased here) but even then I have more than enough posts by now for you to have formed some kind of read on me. Since you are holding on to your vote the way you are I assume that you don't currently scum read me? I asked this and many other questions. By engaging with other I not only allow myself to read them but also make it easier for others to read me and the person I am interacting with. It's hard to get a read on you because you have very few posts and interactions. Yet when you do post I don't really seeing you showing who you doubt and why or who you trust and why. Even if they are little things you should share them with us so we can get a read on you and possibly see things your way or help you better understand something you are thinking about. If I was scum reading you I would vote for you. I have your alignment as a town lean, but I don't find post #54 alignment indicative for you since you do not see where I am coming from. For kit, it gives off scum vibes. The wording of it does not sound genuine from a town perspective and is misleading. Could have asked, Why wouldn't you vote no lynch early on in the game or Since it's not something you like to do early on, is it something that you would consider later in the game? Abu gave the right response to that question, but that doesn't change the fact that I find it as misleading. |
logic340 said: I'm not feeling the to the trains right now... @lastwhisper31 Why is your vote still on zymf? I can't help but feel like your game here is more cometary than analysis. @Kit 4 pages into our last game together I was willing to put you in my town block here I feel like I have nothing. I hope everything is ok with you..please share some reads when you can? @Karote how's that catch up going? @MrSkittles94 where are you? All the votes moved without you doing anything are you still in the game? @AbuHumaid haven't heard from you in a while. Are you content with your RVS vote on Karote? @Floofs were you hiding more than a pillow filled with catnip under that pile if cats? What's your current read on Lucian? I have both you and Lucian as town lean. I like your interactions with each other and how you bounce ideas off one another. |
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| coro #631 "i actually liked how confident he replied to me but then there's this aggressive undertones in some posts sometimes like he feels we're enemies? >_>" eh aggressive? thats not how i feel it. that aside, well it could be said so since i suspect you. "when i asked about his playstyle he wouldn't tell me anything" since, there is nothing much to be told. plus yesterday i already told you my stance about it, in the 2nd post u quoted yourself in 453 explains well enough my stance about it. "which makes me wonder if hes afraid of revealing things about himself." aftraid is not the right word here tho Coro, you are totally derailing the game with asking stuffs that you are supposed to find by yourself. Dont tell me you ask each and every player you have not played with about their playstyle. The motivation of hightlighting #453 again is shady, hours before phase change you are most interested in my own description of my playstyle, and call me out as scummy for not spoonfeeding you about it |
yurkinJul 13, 2017 7:18 AM
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coromandel said: Not my #1 suspect, as I said. It's more about who else is scummier than Kit, and there aren't many players who I'd put into that category. Simply because most are in the neutral pile. Ok, but fmpov there is still a decent amount of information/interactions from Kit's slot to make a solid, or semi-solid read off of. How do you feel about lastwhisper? I have here in my notes: "TR on lastwhisper- demonstrated a town mindset in 186" That is rather old, looking back it doesn't feel as town as it appeared back then, and I mentioned my read on him progressed back to neutral after minimal AI posts coming from him. It felt like he sheeped my vote last night on you, and I was intrigued, but thought he would post more about that today. He didn't. He's still in my lynch-pool. He's a possible scum-lean, but a weak one at that. I can't discern any town-motivation from his posts because many of them feel NAI. Nothing has struck me about his play recently as townie. That said, I see you read them as scum. "My other scum read would be lastwhisper. Her vote for Zymf seemed sketchy and out of place, and she voted for me just when people started to suspect me - w/o explaining why." -631 So you read lastwhisper as opportunistic scum for their vote on you? And for their vote on Zymf? |
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yurkin said: coro #631 "i actually liked how confident he replied to me but then there's this aggressive undertones in some posts sometimes like he feels we're enemies? >_>" eh aggressive? thats not how i feel it. that aside, well it could be said so since i suspect you. "when i asked about his playstyle he wouldn't tell me anything" since, there is nothing much to be told. plus yesterday i already told you my stance about it, in the 2nd post u quoted yourself in 453 explains well enough my stance about it. "which makes me wonder if hes afraid of revealing things about himself." aftraid is not the right word here tho. Coro, you are totally derailing the game with asking stuffs that you are supposed to find by yourself. Dont tell me you ask each and every player you have not played with about their playstyle. The motivation of hightlighting #453 again is shady, hours before phase change you are most interested in my own description of my playstyle, and call me out as scummy for not spoonfeeding you ab Sure, but hearing it from you yourself is a different matter. Also, like I said, it's sus when someone is so opposed to revealing things about themselves. It depends, but when I find it hard to understand someone's train of thought, I ask how they're coming to their conclusions. And it helps me figure out their alignment. I don't really get you, and you don't want me to, apparently. |
yurkin said: Coro, you are totally derailing the game with asking stuffs that you are supposed to find by yourself. Dont tell me you ask each and every player you have not played with about their playstyle. The motivation of hightlighting #453 again is shady, hours before phase change you are most interested in my own description of my playstyle, and call me out as scummy for not spoonfeeding you ab I feel like things like this are usually followed up by a vote. I like your reasoning here, what do you think about Coro's push on Conq? |
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| I'm back, what really annoys me is I don't see grrr defending themselves or anything. Call me paranoid but that unsettles me especially since grr mentioned his role had "special winning condition and abilities". floofs has really slipped under my radar with their posts, they've been sononchalent I guess nothing has struck me of them. Lady gaga seems to be great at doing single line snarky responses but I don't see great devlopments in their posts. yurkin has gotten better in my eyes though since I read past pg 6 and they show that they're not afraid to do more than sit back. Not sure on coro, I guess whatever happened with them and the votes is super recent. |
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logic340 said: Floofs said: Not much of a response for everything that has happened in your absence?Kit- Still don't like post #54 Conquer- I don't like post #339. It felt like conquer wanted to switch topics to zymf and grr and did't wat to further the conversation with Lucian about logic. Floofs said: I really don't like this at all. You post like one post (two in this case) then dip out. It's making it really hard to get a bead on your and the action in itself seems scummy at least at the surface level. I was really liking this train but now not so much, please help clear yourself if you are in fact town. vote:kit I didn't dip out. I'm still here. Your opinion may have changed, but I am town reading all of the other players on this train. |
LucianRoy said: coromandel said: Not my #1 suspect, as I said. It's more about who else is scummier than Kit, and there aren't many players who I'd put into that category. Simply because most are in the neutral pile. Ok, but fmpov there is still a decent amount of information/interactions from Kit's slot to make a solid, or semi-solid read off of. I was paying more attention to other players. And from what I did read, there's nothing that makes me think she's town, but she didn't do anything super scummy either. LucianRoy said: How do you feel about lastwhisper? I have here in my notes: "TR on lastwhisper- demonstrated a town mindset in 186" That is rather old, looking back it doesn't feel as town as it appeared back then, and I mentioned my read on him progressed back to neutral after minimal AI posts coming from him. It felt like he sheeped my vote last night on you, and I was intrigued, but thought he would post more about that today. He didn't. He's still in my lynch-pool. He's a possible scum-lean, but a weak one at that. I can't discern any town-motivation from his posts because many of them feel NAI. Nothing has struck me about his play recently as townie. That said, I see you read them as scum. "My other scum read would be lastwhisper. Her vote for Zymf seemed sketchy and out of place, and she voted for me just when people started to suspect me - w/o explaining why." -631 So you read lastwhisper as opportunistic scum for their vote on you? And for their vote on Zymf? With her vote for Zymf, she voted for him right after theConquerer, and also implied that his post influenced her decision, w/o actually giving her own thoughts on the matter: And I think she voted for me for the same reason - because you were talking about suspecting me in a couple of posts above hers, asked Re about his town-read on me and so on. It's not much, but I get the feeling that she's going with the flow, voting for whoever is being suspected atm. |
TheConquerer said: floofs has really slipped under my radar with their posts, they've been sononchalent I guess nothing has struck me of them. What do you think about their vote on Kit? Floofs said: vote:kit Floofs said: If I was scum reading you I would vote for you. I have your alignment as a town lean, but I don't find post #54 alignment indicative for you since you do not see where I am coming from. For kit, it gives off scum vibes. The wording of it does not sound genuine from a town perspective and is misleading. Could have asked, Why wouldn't you vote no lynch early on in the game or Since it's not something you like to do early on, is it something that you would consider later in the game? Abu gave the right response to that question, but that doesn't change the fact that I find it as misleading. I think it's clearly reasoned, but it's entirely in reference to the dialogue had around this post: Kit said: AbuHumaid said: why does an RVS vote bother you?yeah. No lynch is definitely something I'd rather not vote for so early in the game -54 on page 2. The only thing I find somewhat odd is how much they dug into this post to achieve that read on Kit. The next question I have is how much of Kit's recent posts have they look at, and how do these affect their read? Not sure on coro, I guess whatever happened with them and the votes is super recent. I recommend reading Coro's posts. They're voting you atm and feel there is unfinished business. |
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grrr said: I dont mind draw votes. My ability has condition for draw votes. If we have draw votes (and zymf is one of the draw ones, I kill him tonight. Hang on what?? |
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