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Apr 18, 2017 1:58 PM
#401
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Yeah that was the last updated vote count had you voteing Jack. you voted me on page 7 my bad. Anyway the other questions still persist. What you don't like doesn't make someone scum. You know I am in multiple games and I have a real life to deal with. I wish I could spam this thread like normal but with this player list that shouldn't be necessary. The bullying thing was more of a joke considering it was said by someone else first. The votes on me seem weak from my PoV but I don't necessarily thing they are scum motivated. logic340 said: Ruu said: This is exactly why people need to be voting elsewhere imo. grrr is D1 lynch fodder and doesn't care if he gets lynched or not. I think it was Shinichi who told me this in our last game. Here we have grrr being grrr yet everyone has a case...I guess I am just not used to this as grrr has been lasting into late game recently even with his shenanigans. grrr said: @Shinici I have suspicion that you might've lied to me. so I want you to say confirm it again in front of everyone that your role is one of these: Vanilla, Cop, Doctor, 1-shot vigilante, 2-shot vigilante, Traker, Watcher, Lovers, Roleblocker seriously grrr do you want to die so badly? Why do you keep bringing up the roles? @LucianRoy I agree with you that dono's vote is the weakest on your train. Mine started as an rvs but now I have actual suspicions that you might be scum. @Shinichi-kun do you think scum grrr continues to role fish after being scum read for it? You say grrr is being weird this game then why are you voting Jack instead of grrr? LucianRoy said: Why do you think Shinichi and Coelestin feel the need to bully me with their votes? Trying to get me to play the way they want me to by voting me rather than figure out why I am doing what I am doing so far. Also Shinichi has played with me recently and knows full well why I am being more reserved than normal. Coelestin probably remembers a very aggressive heavy posting logic (well kitty mafia has changed that after I lynched off 4 town teammate while leading the lynch basically every day). My voice leads to a lot of townie deaths and I am trying to minimize those casualties while I get better at acutely catching scum.@grr, why do you feel the need to bully shinichi and penta into answering your question with your vote? I fail to see why these people are scum because they didn't answer you. Im voting u right now lol so why would u ask me that question, also grrr is either a jester type role or hes trying way to hard as town which im sure hes scum at that point. I dont like people being reserved town should never be reserved and how am i bullying you?` Just say your busy then lol its not hard and im not asking u to spam the thread. Well im def not a fan of the votes on lucian if there still are some, the ones on ruu, and ur vote on lamby. My vote on jack was just to bring him into the thread that and i normally vote jack out of meta XD. |
Apr 18, 2017 1:59 PM
#402
LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: CorruptedPurity said: My vote is pure RVS and tickling around with Lucy. There's WAS high chance it would move. I don't however townread lucy, he is unusually sure that Ruu is mafia and was pretty uncomfortable that my vote sat on him even though it was just for fun. I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. Hmm if i recall hes unusually sure of alot of people being scum and normally he sheeps them pretty damn hard so this actually is normal from lucian. Wait u didnt think i was seirous before i am appalled :< let's get this straightened out. I'm not sheeping anyone atm, and am in fact leading the only viable train in the game atm, and the train is on scum. I've got that going for me Says who? Ennh, says me, but now that the logic train has progressed it's probably viable as well. I says you is coocoo |
Apr 18, 2017 2:02 PM
#403
Seeing as how i got plenty of reaction from logic Change Vote: @karote You care to come out of rvs phases and speak to ur felllow town members? |
Apr 18, 2017 2:08 PM
#404
Shinichi-Kun said: Seeing as how i got plenty of reaction from logic Change Vote: @karote You care to come out of rvs phases and speak to ur felllow town members? specifcally about your vote and on logic/grape/lucian/grrr |
Apr 18, 2017 2:11 PM
#405
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. I'm not voting to defend Chi as much as I am voting for suspicious behaviour. Sure, my reasoning is a defense of Chi's actions, but that is because I saw logic misrepresenting them and that in my eyes is scummy. What I'm doing is not whitekinghting because I am not saying she is town. I am not really sure of her alignment at this point. Her actions are beneficial to town, but mostly in the way of building cases and trying to get town organized properly. This is stuff she could do as scum. The good thing is that these things can only be done so well as scum because you will either work yourself into a corner or slip eventually with TMI or confirmation bias or something. The fact that she is being aggressive is good because it makes her easier to read as the game progresses. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:21 PM
#406
logic340 said: Coelestin said: You must not have heard about me?? Around these here parts they call me the Townie Lyncher of MS. So no I don't know for certain that this is scum Lam-B just like I don't know shit about anyone else. Am I good at catching scum? No, sadly not in the least yet. I do have a feeling based on my previous experience with him. The last time he came out like this and got a bunch of town credit he was scum. logic340 said: Coelestin said: I have played 4 games with grrr (1 scum, 3 town), two with Lam (1 scum, 1 town), 3 with Karote (3 Town), panda 1 game (Qoco right? 1 scum), Shinichi like 6 games (4 town 2 scum) small difference between his scum and town game) He's much more motivated to win as town especially of late. Ruu said: @Coelestin I didn't see logic posts about lamby that way. I don't find his post helpful at all and lamb's vote on grrr was not rvs nor had a good reason behind it. Do you agree with lamb btw? If you play with the likes of Karote, Lamby, Panda, grrr, Shinichi etc. for a while or just have lots of mafia experience in general you actually start to understand some of the motifs behind their posts, I'd say, or maybe that's just me *shrugs*. Understanding what they're trying to do and if their actions are driven by something is part of the game, and everyone interprets the things differently. And yes, I'm agreeing with some parts Lamby pointed out. But to be fair, I've never played with scum!Lamb before so if other people really can discern his town and his scum game well then I suppose I cannot say much against it. And you can say for sure that you can discern scum!Lamby from town!Lamby? Or that there are sure indicators for that? So, uh, what I'm getting from this is that someone who's good at being scum should be lynched...? It doesn't exactly align with what I'm used from Lamby, but sure. logic340 said: Coelestin said: I have been doing that a lot as well and it tends to end in a town lynch and me leading the train the next day. I have also been hyper aggressive and took some of the fun out of kitty mafia for the other players. Trying not to be as emotional in these games as you know I can be.logic340 said: Coelestin said: Because I feel your vote is trying to pressure me into doing something you want and I don't work that way. logic340 said: Coelestin said: Sounds like things are working as planned then. I have gone through a metamorphosis of sorts since you last saw me in TGT mafia. I don't mind the attention anymore as I have lead so many lynch trains recently these two votes are nothing in the way of pressure. CorruptedPurity said: I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. I don't see how you could like logic already, I don't get that feeling out of seeing his posts. They're all just so general + he's actually just falling under the radar. Uhhh, why are you suddenly talking about the votes on you and how you're not under pressure? v.v I told the others how I perceive you. Well, surprisingly, I do that a lot when I'm playing mafia. I also tend to be quite forceful at times and like it when things are going my way, but eh. I don't think that disagreeing someone by expressing my opinion that way really falls under that category. I like your aggressive side, much more fun to discuss with you than other players, they're way to tame :| But I think I've already told you that last time. logic340 said: It probably wouldn't hold much weight if it was a sole meta vote. I like to think of Meta as the cherry on top but for my first serious vote this game I think it's pretty alright. Does off putting make me scum? I am put off by plenty of townie posts every game evident by how many townies I have lynched as town. What is the scum mindset behind those post? What is the scum mindset behind my vote on Lam-B? ...I'm not voting for you because of your meta vote or you voting for Lamb. I'm voting for you because of your grand reaction to Lamb's posts. Which leads me to my original question of who you actually suspect again, other than Lamb. |
Apr 18, 2017 2:23 PM
#407
Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: grrr said: Coelestin said: You dont need to know anything. I have listed which count as common roles. I will list them again for my dear friend Coelestin :grrr said: Coelestin said: grrr said: @Chione if you tell me about your role, I will spell your new nickname correctly 3 times in a raw (without copy pasting ) lol. Deal. It's common. @Coelestin If you are going to stab me back again, after I pay my part of the deal and spell your name 3 times by saying "It was a joke I was just playing with you" I will never ever trust you not only in this game but in any mafia ever! There is a limit on how much one can lie! Hmm? You still trust me? I'm impressed. Heh. It's a pretty common role as far as I know. Vanilla, Cop, Doctor, 1-shot vigilante, 2-shot vigilante, Traker, Watcher, Lovers, Roleblocker Can you confirm your role is one of the above? (if you have any modification like 1 shot night immunity or day cop or whatever it doesn't count as common, and I wish I didn't have to explain it to any single person individually but if that is the way to get my claims so be it. I find it funny how I triple check I haven't made a typo in your name, letter by letter, like if the world will end if I fail to do it lol Oh my, that's a lot of rules you put there for a role to be common. Okay, I suppose my role isn't common then. Aww, I actually liked Coalesce lol. idk why u think any roles are common in this game i mean i consider my role common in a sense it gets used alot but outside that its def not. ...wait what? I was thinking that? |
Apr 18, 2017 2:25 PM
#408
PentaFlare said: grrr said: PentaFlare said: I would prefer if we didn't force everyone to hint about their roles. If the claim won't help catch scum, don't claim anything. I ignored it as a weak reason. The only way to know it wont help catching scum is if you: 1. Know all roles in the game and you know this info won't be useful to any of them. and 2. You are mafia and you know all claims that the mafia team will make this game. But if you are mafia then I have no reason to believe you anyway. I think the correct way of thinking is: claim anything that might help town and probably won't help mafia. if anything your not willingness to cooperate makes me scum reading you. I don't think giving vague claims like that helps town. I like to give as little information as possible about my role until I openly claim. This is something I started doing after I became good at guessing who has which PR as mafia. I've had scum games where I have successfully guessed almost every PR and it was really helpful. As such, I try and make it really difficult to determine anything about my role when I play town. I don't want scum being able to guess anything. Soren is a player that is really good at this and it helps make his town game really strong. He is super dangerous in a protective role, the most important town role to hide. I guess we see mafia very differently then. In my eyes town is the faction that seeks for more info as town needs to catch mafia. Mafia dont need info, they will kill a town member even if they dont have any info. So if I can't see some info helping mafia directly then I assume it should be shared. If you tell me that claiming classic/ not classic role helps mafia, then I would expect you to tell me which role would you kill. A classic or a not classic one. Imo it shouldn't matter that much for mafia even if they have that info. Also it seems I am yet to find a classic role. Not classic roles: Coelestin, Chinichi, Lamb, CP, Lucian, Grrr Classic: none! |
Apr 18, 2017 2:28 PM
#409
grrr said: PentaFlare said: grrr said: PentaFlare said: I would prefer if we didn't force everyone to hint about their roles. If the claim won't help catch scum, don't claim anything. I ignored it as a weak reason. The only way to know it wont help catching scum is if you: 1. Know all roles in the game and you know this info won't be useful to any of them. and 2. You are mafia and you know all claims that the mafia team will make this game. But if you are mafia then I have no reason to believe you anyway. I think the correct way of thinking is: claim anything that might help town and probably won't help mafia. if anything your not willingness to cooperate makes me scum reading you. I don't think giving vague claims like that helps town. I like to give as little information as possible about my role until I openly claim. This is something I started doing after I became good at guessing who has which PR as mafia. I've had scum games where I have successfully guessed almost every PR and it was really helpful. As such, I try and make it really difficult to determine anything about my role when I play town. I don't want scum being able to guess anything. Soren is a player that is really good at this and it helps make his town game really strong. He is super dangerous in a protective role, the most important town role to hide. I guess we see mafia very differently then. In my eyes town is the faction that seeks for more info as town needs to catch mafia. Mafia dont need info, they will kill a town member even if they dont have any info. So if I can't see some info helping mafia directly then I assume it should be shared. If you tell me that claiming classic/ not classic role helps mafia, then I would expect you to tell me which role would you kill. A classic or a not classic one. Imo it shouldn't matter that much for mafia even if they have that info. Also it seems I am yet to find a classic role. Not classic roles: Coelestin, Chinichi, Lamb, CP, Lucian, Grrr Classic: none! I don't see how claiming classic/not-classic helps town. It is a super vague claim that could be applied to just about anything. What do you expect to learn from this information? I'm not going to say who I would aim for because I have half an idea what some of the roles others have are. I'm not sharing that anymore than I'm sharing my own role. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:31 PM
#410
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. |
Apr 18, 2017 2:35 PM
#411
Apr 18, 2017 2:35 PM
#412
LucianRoy said: CorruptedPurity said: Coelestin said: aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Why do you think the train on Lucian is useless?Ruu said: @Coelestin like I explain to logic before, my vote is not doing any harm there. I wanted to see more from other players before moving it. But I have to admit I'm liking Jack's case against Lucy so I'm confused atm. I just don't see why you weren't voting for someone who you found suspicious in contrast to staying on a what seemed to be rather useless train. Sounds like you're just trying to take the easy way out instead of trying to figure out people's alignments. Just sayin. From Ruu's point of view I'd say it was useless, since she could have gone after someone who she actually suspected instead. I don't consider it to be useless myself, it was interesting to see how long Ruu and CP would hold onto it. Unless I am presented with a better target, the way Lucy overreacted to a simple RVS vote just seemed off so I may hold it to phase end. Unless you are able to change my mind of course. Tell me why lucy is town. What if I told you my vote singlehandedly brought this game outta rvs? I would argue it's not only your vote but your weird inclination to believe Ruu is mafia without any substantial proof + your overreaction to your train that got us of RVS. Even then, you can only take 50% of thr credit, the suspicious grrr rolefishing also takes another 50% |
Apr 18, 2017 2:41 PM
#413
@aa-dono Got a few things I want to work through with you. First, is your vote on Lucian pressure for your question, or a scumread. I noticed you were commenting in Lucian's fixation on grrr, so I'm going to work off that idea so I'm assuming it is a scumread, but I just want to be sure. Personally, I think Lucian is town. This is largely a meta read that is a little aged (the last scum game of Lucian's I remember well is Harry Potter), but also a little but of behaviour. You noted how Lucian presented noted that Grapefruit's vote was less biased than his. Behaviour-wise, this is drawing attention to something scummy he did which is not something mafia normally do. They don't want to be called out for their scummy actions. Adding meta to this makes me even more inclined to call it town. When I was on Lucian's scumteam, he kept noting all the scummy things he did and posting them in the mafia club so we could use that material to bus him if need be. If Lucian still does that (maybe he doesn't anymore since he has actually won a scum game and might be more confident in his survival), he wouldn't have mentioned his biased vote in the thread, but in the scum club. The other thing I like about Lucian is that he is not afraid to make reads. He has pushed on both Ruu and grrr. Scum Lucian really likes to talk about things, anything, without making actual pushes. Lots of content, little substance. Here he is making pushes, so the question is: do those pushes have substance? That's how I'm seeing him, but I would love to here another perspective. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:42 PM
#414
Vote Count 1.8 Lam-B: Logic340, Ruu: Karote LucianRoy: Ruu, CorruptedPurity, Jackrito, Aa-dono Logic340: Coelestin, PentaFlare Grrr:LucianRoy, Grapefruit21, Lam-B Pentaflare: Grrr Karote: Shinichi-kun Those not voting Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:45 PM
#415
grrr said: @penta The very least, the ones who claim classic roles are more likely town. If mafia claims classic role then he might get counter claimed and he is done. If no roles are known mafia are free to claim whatever they like which makes it very convinient for them. Your list is very comprehensive though. I don't think the risk of counterclaim is high. Actually, it is probably easier to fakeclaim a more basic role because complex roles usually face more scrutiny. I've had much more success fakeclaiming cop as mafia than fakeclaiming virgin or redirector, or other weird roles |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:46 PM
#416
logic340 said: Coelestin said: Sounds like things are working as planned then. I have gone through a metamorphosis of sorts since you last saw me in TGT mafia. I don't mind the attention anymore as I have lead so many lynch trains recently these two votes are nothing in the way of pressure. CorruptedPurity said: I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. I don't see how you could like logic already, I don't get that feeling out of seeing his posts. They're all just so general + he's actually just falling under the radar. The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Edit also he (logic) is a very likeable guy once you get to know him XD I really wish you did not want to go under a metamorphosis, a persons play style should develop normally not artificial the recent stretch of votes on you in recent games is because of this tbh. Also falling under radar is not a town mindset. On the grr train let us talk about this who on it would you say is scum then, apart from maybe lamb your points on them are fair from the scum game you talk about but lamb will always be like that and their time zones make it a issue which we need to overcome. Also is it not possible this is another example of town on town if Grr does flip town. |
Apr 18, 2017 2:50 PM
#417
LucianRoy said: logic340 said: The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Look at the voyes on him. Now look at the votes on me. Now look back at the votes on him, and notice that they're actually good, now look at the votes on me, and notice how the first two are from rvs, the third is jack early game paranoia mixed with meta schenanigans, and the third is a vote from dono that seems more like she just wanted to ask me a question than push me as scum. Note through all this, the train on grr is smaller than the train on me. Judging by size, and judging by the stament above, should you really be worrying about the train on grr? Can you really say, that through three votes, "there are probably scum on that train"? That sounds like one mighty blanket statement right there. Let's hear it out then. I don't appreciate the disrespect towards my vote here, and the discrediting of others on you. Why are the votes on grr much better then the ones on you, this is just deflection from yourself. |
Apr 18, 2017 2:54 PM
#418
Ruu said: LucianRoy said: Ruu said: LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: CorruptedPurity said: My vote is pure RVS and tickling around with Lucy. There's WAS high chance it would move. I don't however townread lucy, he is unusually sure that Ruu is mafia and was pretty uncomfortable that my vote sat on him even though it was just for fun. I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. Hmm if i recall hes unusually sure of alot of people being scum and normally he sheeps them pretty damn hard so this actually is normal from lucian. Wait u didnt think i was seirous before i am appalled :< let's get this straightened out. I'm not sheeping anyone atm, and am in fact leading the only viable train in the game atm, and the train is on scum. I've got that going for me grrr is acting too anti-town to be scum imo. Is like he want us to lynch him by behaving this way. Too scummy to be scum isn't a thing. That's called out-guessing yourself. That's called playing yourself. I'm thinking of scum!grrr playstyle, that's why I don't think he would behave like this if he was indeed scum. I've play with him when he rolled scum and he doesn't like to be on the spotlight. When he does this that means that he got jester or VT (wants to get lynch or starts fake claiming cause he is bored). <- And @grrr that's what I am, let's see if you understand. I would agree with this statement from playing with Grr he is a lot more lurking and less carefree they are some small traits of his scum game here but they is a lot more that I'm used to as them when town. As always though my view on Grr is the same he is one we can leave to later he is classic mislynch bait and one people can lynch with little harm to own rep because they can blame Grr for playing bad. |
Apr 18, 2017 2:54 PM
#419
Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: grrr said: Coelestin said: You dont need to know anything. I have listed which count as common roles. I will list them again for my dear friend Coelestin :grrr said: Coelestin said: grrr said: @Chione if you tell me about your role, I will spell your new nickname correctly 3 times in a raw (without copy pasting ) lol. Deal. It's common. @Coelestin If you are going to stab me back again, after I pay my part of the deal and spell your name 3 times by saying "It was a joke I was just playing with you" I will never ever trust you not only in this game but in any mafia ever! There is a limit on how much one can lie! Hmm? You still trust me? I'm impressed. Heh. It's a pretty common role as far as I know. Vanilla, Cop, Doctor, 1-shot vigilante, 2-shot vigilante, Traker, Watcher, Lovers, Roleblocker Can you confirm your role is one of the above? (if you have any modification like 1 shot night immunity or day cop or whatever it doesn't count as common, and I wish I didn't have to explain it to any single person individually but if that is the way to get my claims so be it. I find it funny how I triple check I haven't made a typo in your name, letter by letter, like if the world will end if I fail to do it lol Oh my, that's a lot of rules you put there for a role to be common. Okay, I suppose my role isn't common then. Aww, I actually liked Coalesce lol. idk why u think any roles are common in this game i mean i consider my role common in a sense it gets used alot but outside that its def not. ...wait what? I was thinking that? Idk lol u were replying to grrr XD |
Apr 18, 2017 2:55 PM
#420
Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Lol glad someone other than me noticed XD And nope im just not used to it since the last time we played was like 4-6 months ago :P If it wasnt for you i dont think i would have gotten much out of logic |
Apr 18, 2017 2:57 PM
#421
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. I'm not voting to defend Chi as much as I am voting for suspicious behaviour. Sure, my reasoning is a defense of Chi's actions, but that is because I saw logic misrepresenting them and that in my eyes is scummy. What I'm doing is not whitekinghting because I am not saying she is town. I am not really sure of her alignment at this point. Her actions are beneficial to town, but mostly in the way of building cases and trying to get town organized properly. This is stuff she could do as scum. The good thing is that these things can only be done so well as scum because you will either work yourself into a corner or slip eventually with TMI or confirmation bias or something. The fact that she is being aggressive is good because it makes her easier to read as the game progresses. Logic misintrepets alot of people even me but sure he and chione could handle that themselves. I do have to agree with the bolded statements cause ive noticed it happene before |
Apr 18, 2017 2:57 PM
#422
grrr said: Chinichi Really really really lmfao |
Apr 18, 2017 3:00 PM
#423
Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Whaaaaat? What am I doing every time? I'm not fun!!!! :'( <\3 |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:00 PM
#424
PentaFlare said: grrr said: @penta The very least, the ones who claim classic roles are more likely town. If mafia claims classic role then he might get counter claimed and he is done. If no roles are known mafia are free to claim whatever they like which makes it very convinient for them. Your list is very comprehensive though. I don't think the risk of counterclaim is high. Actually, it is probably easier to fakeclaim a more basic role because complex roles usually face more scrutiny. I've had much more success fakeclaiming cop as mafia than fakeclaiming virgin or redirector, or other weird roles also doesnt help that no matter what u claim ill question every bit of it XD |
Apr 18, 2017 3:02 PM
#425
logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun I need some clarification from you. Do you find me scummy or was your vote an attempt to get me out of "Rinto mode" or a mix of the two? I would like to know where my accusers stand. Why are you so defensive so early for someone who says they are used to pressure this is a big overreaction, your last couple of posts are looking like pity pleas especially playing the bully card. You should not care why they are voting you at this stage because you know your own role this paranoia is not a town mindset it comes from someone hiding something. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:02 PM
#426
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. I'm not voting to defend Chi as much as I am voting for suspicious behaviour. Sure, my reasoning is a defense of Chi's actions, but that is because I saw logic misrepresenting them and that in my eyes is scummy. What I'm doing is not whitekinghting because I am not saying she is town. I am not really sure of her alignment at this point. Her actions are beneficial to town, but mostly in the way of building cases and trying to get town organized properly. This is stuff she could do as scum. The good thing is that these things can only be done so well as scum because you will either work yourself into a corner or slip eventually with TMI or confirmation bias or something. The fact that she is being aggressive is good because it makes her easier to read as the game progresses. Logic misintrepets alot of people even me but sure he and chione could handle that themselves. I do have to agree with the bolded statements cause ive noticed it happene before Don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to get in between logic and Chi here. They can sort themselves out. I'm just voting people I find scummy. |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:02 PM
#427
Jackrito said: LucianRoy said: logic340 said: The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Look at the voyes on him. Now look at the votes on me. Now look back at the votes on him, and notice that they're actually good, now look at the votes on me, and notice how the first two are from rvs, the third is jack early game paranoia mixed with meta schenanigans, and the third is a vote from dono that seems more like she just wanted to ask me a question than push me as scum. Note through all this, the train on grr is smaller than the train on me. Judging by size, and judging by the stament above, should you really be worrying about the train on grr? Can you really say, that through three votes, "there are probably scum on that train"? That sounds like one mighty blanket statement right there. Let's hear it out then. I don't appreciate the disrespect towards my vote here, and the discrediting of others on you. Why are the votes on grr much better then the ones on you, this is just deflection from yourself. How? Hes just pointing out what and why part of your vote through his own interpretation. Also this is exactly how lucian plays every game and u always make the same post aboutu it when u 2 play together lol your consitency is scary or alignment telling. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:04 PM
#428
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. I'm not voting to defend Chi as much as I am voting for suspicious behaviour. Sure, my reasoning is a defense of Chi's actions, but that is because I saw logic misrepresenting them and that in my eyes is scummy. What I'm doing is not whitekinghting because I am not saying she is town. I am not really sure of her alignment at this point. Her actions are beneficial to town, but mostly in the way of building cases and trying to get town organized properly. This is stuff she could do as scum. The good thing is that these things can only be done so well as scum because you will either work yourself into a corner or slip eventually with TMI or confirmation bias or something. The fact that she is being aggressive is good because it makes her easier to read as the game progresses. Logic misintrepets alot of people even me but sure he and chione could handle that themselves. I do have to agree with the bolded statements cause ive noticed it happene before Don't misunderstand. I'm not trying to get in between logic and Chi here. They can sort themselves out. I'm just voting people I find scummy. Ok fair enough thahts something i can get behind :D |
Apr 18, 2017 3:04 PM
#429
Apr 18, 2017 3:06 PM
#430
Jackrito said: logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun I need some clarification from you. Do you find me scummy or was your vote an attempt to get me out of "Rinto mode" or a mix of the two? I would like to know where my accusers stand. Why are you so defensive so early for someone who says they are used to pressure this is a big overreaction, your last couple of posts are looking like pity pleas especially playing the bully card. You should not care why they are voting you at this stage because you know your own role this paranoia is not a town mindset it comes from someone hiding something. this is exactly what i picked up on. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:06 PM
#431
Apr 18, 2017 3:06 PM
#432
Apr 18, 2017 3:08 PM
#433
sorry for the double post @suzune-chan |
Apr 18, 2017 3:08 PM
#434
Vote: Qoco Did your comments about lie detectors help you determine anything about other player's alignments? If not, can you tell me something you are thinking about someone else's alignment? I'm seeing someone who is just happy to let mechanics take care of every thing from you and that is usually the people who mechanically have a night kill. |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:12 PM
#435
PentaFlare said: @aa-dono Got a few things I want to work through with you. First, is your vote on Lucian pressure for your question, or a scumread. I noticed you were commenting in Lucian's fixation on grrr, so I'm going to work off that idea so I'm assuming it is a scumread, but I just want to be sure. Personally, I think Lucian is town. This is largely a meta read that is a little aged (the last scum game of Lucian's I remember well is Harry Potter), but also a little but of behaviour. You noted how Lucian presented noted that Grapefruit's vote was less biased than his. Behaviour-wise, this is drawing attention to something scummy he did which is not something mafia normally do. They don't want to be called out for their scummy actions. Adding meta to this makes me even more inclined to call it town. When I was on Lucian's scumteam, he kept noting all the scummy things he did and posting them in the mafia club so we could use that material to bus him if need be. If Lucian still does that (maybe he doesn't anymore since he has actually won a scum game and might be more confident in his survival), he wouldn't have mentioned his biased vote in the thread, but in the scum club. The other thing I like about Lucian is that he is not afraid to make reads. He has pushed on both Ruu and grrr. Scum Lucian really likes to talk about things, anything, without making actual pushes. Lots of content, little substance. Here he is making pushes, so the question is: do those pushes have substance? That's how I'm seeing him, but I would love to here another perspective. Ok you think Lucian is town off meta I think he is scum from it so lets talk this out a bit you see aggression on Ruu and Grr, I see it as easy aggression on Grr who he knows well and his troll nature it achieves nothing but a easy mislynch. On Ruu it just comes off to me as fake possibly even scum acting since it started in the pre game. Also like I said before I see him doing a lot of talking with low content and the push are low low as said here. I agree with your point on him pointing out his errors and how he would do it in a scum club but is this also not a good scum move to do because of the way it looks so bad it is going to come from a paranoia town. With my exp with Lucian though it will become clear by day 3 at latest if he is scum, since he finds it hard to makes pushes by then. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:15 PM
#436
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: LucianRoy said: logic340 said: The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Look at the voyes on him. Now look at the votes on me. Now look back at the votes on him, and notice that they're actually good, now look at the votes on me, and notice how the first two are from rvs, the third is jack early game paranoia mixed with meta schenanigans, and the third is a vote from dono that seems more like she just wanted to ask me a question than push me as scum. Note through all this, the train on grr is smaller than the train on me. Judging by size, and judging by the stament above, should you really be worrying about the train on grr? Can you really say, that through three votes, "there are probably scum on that train"? That sounds like one mighty blanket statement right there. Let's hear it out then. I don't appreciate the disrespect towards my vote here, and the discrediting of others on you. Why are the votes on grr much better then the ones on you, this is just deflection from yourself. How? Hes just pointing out what and why part of your vote through his own interpretation. Also this is exactly how lucian plays every game and u always make the same post aboutu it when u 2 play together lol your consitency is scary or alignment telling. This is the 3rd time you have defended them this game already, it is disrespect because it makes out my vote has no merit because it is just paranoia which is wrong since I gave reasons to back it up. Yes this is how he plays every game as scum, my record of catching scum Lucian is pretty good. what about this is alignment telling as well? |
Apr 18, 2017 3:16 PM
#437
Jackrito said: I wouldn't stay I am under the radar, it's just my attempt at being a little more passive and letting things happen organically instead of trying to force things all the time. logic340 said: Coelestin said: CorruptedPurity said: I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. I don't see how you could like logic already, I don't get that feeling out of seeing his posts. They're all just so general + he's actually just falling under the radar. The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Edit also he (logic) is a very likeable guy once you get to know him XD I really wish you did not want to go under a metamorphosis, a persons play style should develop normally not artificial the recent stretch of votes on you in recent games is because of this tbh. Also falling under radar is not a town mindset. On the grr train let us talk about this who on it would you say is scum then, apart from maybe lamb your points on them are fair from the scum game you talk about but lamb will always be like that and their time zones make it a issue which we need to overcome. Also is it not possible this is another example of town on town if Grr does flip town. Well Lucian is another option but it begs the question does scum Lucian push a train in this manner. I have never seen him do it in games I have played with him only as town in games I have read so I cannot rest a read on that alone. Grapefruit has left me with little impression so far. Not sure if he's just lost among the player base or if it's due to his role/alignment. |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:20 PM
#438
Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Lol glad someone other than me noticed XD And nope im just not used to it since the last time we played was like 4-6 months ago :P If it wasnt for you i dont think i would have gotten much out of logic Yeh, logic's actually pretty easy to talk to if you question his logic xD Good thing is that the discussion felt exactly like the one I had when he was town. Didn't get scum vibes from him during the discussion. I suppose he was questioned just fine for now. Will probably look over that discussion tomorrow again to see it from a more objective viewpoint though. PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Whaaaaat? What am I doing every time? I'm not fun!!!! :'( <\3 Trying to fight my fights for me >.> I get no freaking chance to do it myself, even though I'm always plotting for like hours how I am going to reply and crush my opponent. But then you do it before I can even raise a finger. No fair, I wanna have my fun too! Vote: CorruptedPurity You're making me uneasy. Who are your top 3 scum reads? |
Apr 18, 2017 3:20 PM
#439
@Jackrito Personally I think the most telling thing will be his follow-up to the train of thought he is currently pursuing. My townread isn't strong because a lot of this stuff could be done as scum acting. I want to see how he will continue from here and respond to the pressure before really committing to anything. Fits in with what you were saying about D3. I also want to here from dono on the topic. |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:21 PM
#440
logic340 said: Jackrito said: I wouldn't stay I am under the radar, it's just my attempt at being a little more passive and letting things happen organically instead of trying to force things all the time. logic340 said: Coelestin said: Sounds like things are working as planned then. I have gone through a metamorphosis of sorts since you last saw me in TGT mafia. I don't mind the attention anymore as I have lead so many lynch trains recently these two votes are nothing in the way of pressure. CorruptedPurity said: I like logic so far, shini is weirdly serious and analyzing posts that were obvious jokes. I'm liking new grrr, it's no longer his standard town or scum game so it's something to look forward to. Grape feels a little forceful with his reads but it's grape so I think it's nothing too far off his town game. I actually think either Ruu or Lucy could be scum based on the way they played out their trains. I don't see how you could like logic already, I don't get that feeling out of seeing his posts. They're all just so general + he's actually just falling under the radar. The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Edit also he (logic) is a very likeable guy once you get to know him XD I really wish you did not want to go under a metamorphosis, a persons play style should develop normally not artificial the recent stretch of votes on you in recent games is because of this tbh. Also falling under radar is not a town mindset. On the grr train let us talk about this who on it would you say is scum then, apart from maybe lamb your points on them are fair from the scum game you talk about but lamb will always be like that and their time zones make it a issue which we need to overcome. Also is it not possible this is another example of town on town if Grr does flip town. Well Lucian is another option but it begs the question does scum Lucian push a train in this manner. I have never seen him do it in games I have played with him only as town in games I have read so I cannot rest a read on that alone. Grapefruit has left me with little impression so far. Not sure if he's just lost among the player base or if it's due to his role/alignment. Sadly forcing things are needed a inactive town is a dead town, so everyone needs to play their part the Rinto way is not the right way. The push on grr is a strong one true, but based off grr's play would anyone here blame someone for mislynching him. If this push was on different player I would agree, Grr is a safe option for a mislynch I would agree on Grape they are very low impact this is possibly because busy but still a worry, never seen them a scum so maybe they are the lurky type a lot of decent townies turn that way if scum. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:23 PM
#441
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun I need some clarification from you. Do you find me scummy or was your vote an attempt to get me out of "Rinto mode" or a mix of the two? I would like to know where my accusers stand. Why are you so defensive so early for someone who says they are used to pressure this is a big overreaction, your last couple of posts are looking like pity pleas especially playing the bully card. You should not care why they are voting you at this stage because you know your own role this paranoia is not a town mindset it comes from someone hiding something. this is exactly what i picked up on. Sadly this is not enough for a strong scum read since I have seen logic react this way a lot as town lately as well, his play at the moment is not filling me with confidence though |
Apr 18, 2017 3:25 PM
#442
I am gonna cry... 15 pages on mobile. I will do my best to catch up. ;w; |
Apr 18, 2017 3:29 PM
#443
Now that I think about it Grapefruit has like minimal presence in this game. I wouldn't say he's always shot out of a cannon on D1 but I usually have an impression of him and I can honestly say I don't at the moment. While I do not agree with his reasoning for grrr and Qoco suspicions I cannot say they come from a scum mindset. To my knowledge Grapefruit has never played with Qoco so saying he's picking LHF there doesn't hold weight with me since he wouldn't know it was LHF to begin with...shit I just got out of a game with Qoco and didn't see him as an easy target? The other notable thing for me about Grapefruit is he hasn't has his typical ideological clash yet which is a norm and something I fully expect to see happen if this is town Grapefruit. I'm going to look over Grapefruits posts and see if he's a better option than Lam-B. grrr - is lynch fodder imo, but it's good to see so many finally willing to make him do something for a change. Purity - is lacking presence this game as well. He stood out with that RVS (he doesn't participate) but hasn't really given me anything else to work with. I feel like he's more motivated than this as scum but someone I feel is kind of under the radar at this point in time. Jackrito - picked up on Ruu's RVS train post similarly to me. I'm actually nervous about mindmelding too much with jack as he pocketed me that way last time he was scum. Ruu - Outside of the RVS train stuff nothing that really stands out to me. Will be watching her since I know her scum game well. Karote - vote gone usual karoe NAI so I am neutral Lucian - I don't know no I don't. He's not tunneling per se but not sure scum grrr grabs the attention like this. Easy mislynch easily justifiable. Neutral aa-dono - I feel like I am pretty good at reading her but no real impression so far. Coelestin - Very active appears to be scum hunting but isn't out of her scum range. I'll be taking my time in developing this read. Penta - He's found me scummy my last 3 town games with him. I am sure we will sort one another out. This is another read I will be taking time developing. @Oyasumi_Rosie - I hope you are ok. You haven't posted yet. Not enough info |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:29 PM
#444
Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Whaaaaat? What am I doing every time? I'm not fun!!!! :'( <\3 Trying to fight my fights for me >.> I get no freaking chance to do it myself, even though I'm always plotting for like hours how I am going to reply and crush my opponent. But then you do it before I can even raise a finger. No fair, I wanna have my fun too! I'm not trying to steal your fun! If you don't want to be defended, act scummier! Being serious though, I am paranoid about being misinterpreted, so I try to make sure nobody else is misinterpreted either. I'm not trying to steal your thunder, it is just instinctive to do that for anyone. I'll make an active effort to tone it down a bit for you though. Edit: fixed the messed up quotes |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:29 PM
#445
PentaFlare said: @Jackrito Personally I think the most telling thing will be his follow-up to the train of thought he is currently pursuing. My townread isn't strong because a lot of this stuff could be done as scum acting. I want to see how he will continue from here and respond to the pressure before really committing to anything. Fits in with what you were saying about D3. I also want to here from dono on the topic. I agree that the followup is key here, I'm willing to move my vote from here for that reason since this one I feel confident will sort it self out. Still need to work out who my vote goes to next, I'm thinking Ruu because they seem so passive and only respond when asked, it just seems like they want to stay under the radar. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:31 PM
#446
Vote Grapefruit21 First of like... three games where my good luck vote actually holds water lol. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:34 PM
#447
logic340 said: :3cIf Rosie misses RVS do you think she will still vote Grapefruit with her first vote? |
Apr 18, 2017 3:38 PM
#448
Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: LucianRoy said: logic340 said: The grrr train being so large this early is a bit concerning. There is probably scum on there if he is in fact town. Look at the voyes on him. Now look at the votes on me. Now look back at the votes on him, and notice that they're actually good, now look at the votes on me, and notice how the first two are from rvs, the third is jack early game paranoia mixed with meta schenanigans, and the third is a vote from dono that seems more like she just wanted to ask me a question than push me as scum. Note through all this, the train on grr is smaller than the train on me. Judging by size, and judging by the stament above, should you really be worrying about the train on grr? Can you really say, that through three votes, "there are probably scum on that train"? That sounds like one mighty blanket statement right there. Let's hear it out then. I don't appreciate the disrespect towards my vote here, and the discrediting of others on you. Why are the votes on grr much better then the ones on you, this is just deflection from yourself. How? Hes just pointing out what and why part of your vote through his own interpretation. Also this is exactly how lucian plays every game and u always make the same post aboutu it when u 2 play together lol your consitency is scary or alignment telling. This is the 3rd time you have defended them this game already, it is disrespect because it makes out my vote has no merit because it is just paranoia which is wrong since I gave reasons to back it up. Yes this is how he plays every game as scum, my record of catching scum Lucian is pretty good. what about this is alignment telling as well? then prove ur vote has merit lol, dont let one person tell you other wise XD |
Apr 18, 2017 3:39 PM
#449
Jackrito said: I really don't think I was being defensive but I generally don't stop to think about how my post are going to sound to my reader so it's something I will take note or and work on. logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun I need some clarification from you. Do you find me scummy or was your vote an attempt to get me out of "Rinto mode" or a mix of the two? I would like to know where my accusers stand. Why are you so defensive so early for someone who says they are used to pressure this is a big overreaction, your last couple of posts are looking like pity pleas especially playing the bully card. You should not care why they are voting you at this stage because you know your own role this paranoia is not a town mindset it comes from someone hiding something. |
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Apr 18, 2017 3:49 PM
#450
Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Vote: logic340 I don't like how you are portraying Chi's vote on you as "forcing you to play her way". She is voting you because you seemed to be acting with confirmation bias, which is scummy. I personally think Lamb's comments about her "weak push" were a prompt for her to step up her game. You see it as mudslinging. If Lamby hasn't been posting since that large chunk of posts, how can you accuse him of not following up? idk how anyone can since people know lamb only posts early afternoon which is like 1-7 am for most of us Also i dont like the idea ur whiteknighting here, chione can defend herself im pretty sure of it. Problem i have is this a town or scum motivated chione. Cause right now her aggresive nature is scary. Penta pulls that move like everytime we play together, and the worst part is that I think that he doesn't even notices that he does that every single damn time ;-; It's no fun! *rolls eyes* I'm not scary, I'm just discussing with logic. Unless you'd prefer fluff and the unnecessary mechanic talks you guys had before. Lol glad someone other than me noticed XD And nope im just not used to it since the last time we played was like 4-6 months ago :P If it wasnt for you i dont think i would have gotten much out of logic Yeh, logic's actually pretty easy to talk to if you question his logic xD Good thing is that the discussion felt exactly like the one I had when he was town. Didn't get scum vibes from him during the discussion. I suppose he was questioned just fine for now. Will probably look over that discussion tomorrow again to see it from a more objective viewpoint though. Lol others would say he aint, but i love going back n forth with him. Though i can't really get a clear indicaition of why he overreacted to the pressure. |
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