Diamond no Ace Act II Chapter 36 Discussion

Ando- said:
It's been a long while since we've gotten a feel/hint of Sawamura actually being able to surpass Furuya.

iApollo said:
They already confirmed the last chapter that Sawamura will be the starting pitcher.

iApollo said:


It may depend on translation but chapter 35, page 8.

iApollo said:
@Commentator1 In the translation made by TDX, Miyuki says to Furuya " ... You'll give up the starting pitcher position to him next match again" and i don't think the team sees Sawamura as just a relief pitcher. If anything i think the Katoka Coach values more Sawamura than Furuya since now Furuya is way to inconsistent. For some reason he was relegated to relief pitcher, while Sawamura is the starting pitch.

Commentator1 said:

Zzzz.... Can you "read"? Miyuki says what you say he says, "continuing" after he says "If you can't be in your top shape"....

Read the 2 pages before that... What Miyuki says is for 3 pages... Do you know what IF means? IF? IF IF IF.... lol It means, IF Furuya is in best position, then he will start.

You don't think the team thinks of Sawamura as a "relief pitcher".... You think Katoka Coach values Sawamura more than Furuya....

But the matter of the fact is Furuya is the Ace!!!! And Katoka's the one who made him the Ace!!!!

On the other hand, 1 time, Furuya started, and the plan was for Sawamura to take over from the beginning of 6th inning.
They told (promised) Sawamura, he can pitch from the 6th inning.
But Furuya "spoiled brat" asks Katoka, to "keep pitching" cause he's the Ace, which Katoka says "keep going"
Then Sawamura comes, and "complains" (cause he was promised, the plan was set) to pitch.... which Katoka replies "bluntly" "You're just a relief..." "Your duty is to be 'ready'; that is all"...(basically saying Sawamura has no "rights" as the team member of this team)

I would have left this sh!t team, if i was Sawamura. But he has no pride, and can still keep going even though everyone hates him... Huray for him.

Even that kid with the pink hair, doesn't associate with Sawamura anymore... I though like they were friends and what not... But even he doesn't like Sawamura; who else likes Sawamura?

The only person, i know that is "okay" to Sawamura is "Chris"... But he's long gone...

Salva252 said:
To be honest. Almost everyone likes sawamura. The way they treat sawamura by constantly calling him idiot and stuff has become second nature to them and to sawamura himself. They say these things because they like him. The 2nd and 3th years definetly don't see sawamura just as a relief pitcher just as little as they see kawakami as just a relief pitcher. The 1st years have yet to proparly meet sawamura but as you can see in the latest chapters they are starting to see sawamura's true nature. Sawamura is who he is because he joined seidou and stayed their. His rivarly with Furuya is what is making him so good. Although I would prefer more Sawamura time I think everything is progressing nicely.

Commentator1 said:

To be honest, almost no one likes Sawamura.

"Second nature".... "They call him idiot, cause they like him"... Are you a masochist? One of those people who likes being "punished" and called "names", and "ridiculed" and likes it? What in the world....
That pink hair kid used to associate with Sawamura, but ever since he hit that 1 Home run, he doesn't even look at Sawamura any more.

First of all, Kawakami IS a relief pitcher.... But on the second hand; if the team had to let either Sawamura go or Kawakami go; they would let Sawamura go. Because Kawakami's "low" pitches are supposed to be "less risky". He's more consistent. And also, even if the hitters get used to Kawakami's pitches and hit them, they won't be hitting any home runs; cause they're "low"...

"Sawamura is who he is because he joined seidou and stayed there"... Really? The only 2 people that really helped are Chris and that Chubby Coach. Chris is gone, he wasn't even part of Seidou team, when Sawamura came in (he was injured and just "helped out", wasn't part of the team). That Chubby Coach wasn't even trying to help Sawamura, he just gave "hints" for like Sawamura's "change up".... So Sawamura can realize that he can't do it (well, he can, to his surprise but...)... But Sawamura did it... It's pretty much, all Sawamura's own effort.

On the other hand, if Sawamura wasn't on the team; the team would have never went to last Koshien, they would have lost their coach (cause he would have left); and basically become one of those school that "used to be good"... But "not anymore".
Probably, the Chubby coach would have made a "Furuya no Ace" team... and he would have groomed Furuya, so at least in his senior year, he accomplishes some... But they probably never would have won Koshien, even if Furuya became the "best pitcher in Japan"... Cause you need a "good team" to win Koshien, not just a "good pitcher".

The first year kids... The "midget" (the short one that's chasing Furuya) already caught for Sawamura (he mentions how hard Sawamura's throws are going to be); but he's still not "impressed", he's not being all like "oh, Sawamura's the best pitcher on this team, even though he's not the Ace. I'm going to follow him and learn from him"... Instead he's chasing Furuya, even if Furuya tells him "you're not good enough to catch for me" and all that....

Okumura might turn into a "new Christ". Then he will become the "new" "only one" on the team that "kind of" respects Sawamura.

Well, the tallish kid with the glasses don't really think badly of Sawamura either. So, i guess there's 2 of them... Hurray?...

Salva252 said:
But wat about Kanemaru. he does have quite a bit respect for Sawamura just he doesn't like showing it to him.

And no I'm not a masochist. Just watching the anime and now reading the manga everyone calls Sawamura idiot even the girl (Wakana) who is in love with him. So sometimes I got the vibe from this show that when they called him an idiot they said it because they grew accustomed to it and not because they didn't like him. I don't know maybe I'm the only one who got that vibe you cleary didn't haha. nevertheless I do respect your opinion.

Commentator1 said:

is Kanemaru that "fast runner"? The one that always "steals" bases? Well yeah, he only fights Sawamura, cause Sawamura keeps calling him a "cheetah" and what not... So it's not disrespect...

I don't remember Wakana ever calling or even thinking Sawamura was an idiot... She is also one of the people who respect Sawamura... But she's not on the team...

Yes, there is "that side" where they call him idiot, cause of "familiarity". But like when Sawamura is shouting in the "sand pit"?(the place where they practice pitches, on the side of the field; is that called sand pit?); then when they tell him to "Shut Up"... It seems reasonable, cause Sawamura's actually being annoying...

But a lot of times, more than necessary, the "shut up"'s will include vibes like "you are not part of the game, so stay out of it"... "you are not part of this, so stay out"...

So yes, while Furuya pitching or the other guy; Sawamura's technically not "playing" and all that... But it has that "vibe" saying "Sawamura" is "unnecessary". Basically saying, the team without Sawamura would be better off.

And i hate this vibe, because "without" Sawamura, they wouldn't be where they are. So at least respect him in that manner, and keep it down a notch, even if Sawamura was actually being annoying... I think he deserves that...

Also, i note, Sawamura is STILL #18. So, the "last" person on the team (out of 18 people). Meaning, if the team ever wanted to get 1 more player, Sawamura would be the first person to get kicked out of the team.
Sawamura's number shows how the team treats him; which is the farthest thing away from a "fair treatment".