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Jul 7, 2015 3:34 PM
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Worst MC of this year. I hope he'll die in hell. Discuss.

I can totally see he'll kill someone with reckless behavior of his while using his special ability only to regret his mistakes and repent what he did later but that's precisely the developement I don't to watch - once asshole, forever asshole.

I mean, he is the main entrypoint for viewers who see the show through his eyes, and that is the real problem here. This simply can't be justified by him being lab-rat in the past or when we realize that he is dreaming this world out and living in evil government Matrix labs later on.

And if it turns out he was actually pacified by Nao in second half of this episode and that he'll be good guy from now on then this is the worst character developement ever.
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Jul 7, 2015 3:39 PM
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Same. I usually like arrogant anime boys but this guy is just a dick.

He's perfect as a wish fulfillment protag, sadly.
Jul 7, 2015 3:53 PM
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i kinda like him, he's a dick, dumb, good-looking, cocky, comical and fun!!!

i dont think he's a wish fulfillment protag at all, but i could see why some loser with low self esteem hates him, because it's hard to self-project, lol no offense ♥♥♥♥♥♥
Jul 7, 2015 5:46 PM
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Lol what character development did you expect from an introductory episode?
Jul 8, 2015 4:47 PM
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chill, there's only one episode out.
Jul 8, 2015 4:51 PM
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millo said:
i kinda like him, he's a dick, dumb, good-looking, cocky, comical and fun!!!

i dont think he's a wish fulfillment protag at all, but i could see why some loser with low self esteem hates him, because it's hard to self-project, lol no offense ♥♥♥♥♥♥


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Jul 8, 2015 5:25 PM
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millo said:
i kinda like him, he's a dick, dumb, good-looking, cocky, comical and fun!!!

i dont think he's a wish fulfillment protag at all, but i could see why some loser with low self esteem hates him, because it's hard to self-project, lol no offense ♥♥♥♥♥♥


who's to say people can't self-project to him and it isn't a wish fulfillment for the other type of guys? It's not like there are no guys like the MC that like anime.... just look around on MAL
Jul 8, 2015 7:35 PM
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What is with all these fan club in this anime..?
Jul 8, 2015 7:59 PM
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Judging a character/anime based off one episode is foolish. Especially when it's made by key and Jun maeda
Jul 9, 2015 9:04 AM
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davinci12 said:
Judging a character/anime based off one episode is foolish. Especially when it's made by key and Jun maeda

Yeah, they musn't judge quickly when the show is still at its very begining.There is something called character development that happens in decent shows.
Jul 9, 2015 5:00 PM

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mafia_princess said:
davinci12 said:
Judging a character/anime based off one episode is foolish. Especially when it's made by key and Jun maeda

Yeah, they musn't judge quickly when the show is still at its very begining.There is something called character development that happens in decent shows.


Yup, Jun Madea said the protagonist will be a real jerk at the start and is made to make people not like him at first. I think things are going according to plan so far.
Jul 9, 2015 5:03 PM

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davinci12 said:
mafia_princess said:

Yeah, they musn't judge quickly when the show is still at its very begining.There is something called character development that happens in decent shows.


Yup, Jun Madea said the protagonist will be a real jerk at the start and is made to make people not like him at first. I think things are going according to plan so far.


Not really. Some people really like edgy characters.
Jul 9, 2015 7:41 PM

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ChickenFry said:
davinci12 said:


Yup, Jun Madea said the protagonist will be a real jerk at the start and is made to make people not like him at first. I think things are going according to plan so far.


Not really. Some people really like edgy characters.


Learn to read.
Jul 9, 2015 7:48 PM
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@davinci12
judging a character after one episode is not really foolish... Not when the character figures that having some slightly crappy ability means it is a-ok to put his love-interest in danger so he can try to save her. In addition to this, the danger involved crashing a truck straight into a wall, hurting the driver, cargo and the wall.
I wont even bother to explain why having a life-plan of cheating his way through everything like that, or running off after dragging your love-interest straight down into the pavement makes someone a jerk. I figure my prior point should suffice.

@ChickenFry
Not sure how being a reckless and thoughtless jerk equals an edgy character. Sure, it's criminal to cause reckless endangerment of others lives in traffic, but no matter how criminal it is, I hesitate to call call it being edgy.
Jul 9, 2015 10:55 PM

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Still not as bad as The evil Nao Tomori
Shirayuki= Most Perfect Female MC ever
Jul 10, 2015 1:39 AM
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This goes beyond just being a dick, this guy was willing to risk two people's lives to such a degree and ruined the life of the driver for something so petty, and without a single tinge of conscience. It goes beyond just abusing this power for personal gains that most people would do, this guy is just pure evil.

People who like him cuz they think he's "edgy" or cuz "evil is cool" has the brain of a pea. A real person who is like this MC deserves nothing less than to be shot in the face. Of course, someone like him is bond to get some massive character development but I don't think anything can save him from deserving to be shot in the face.
Jul 11, 2015 3:30 AM

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Wow, so we have this now. What is wrong with you people. Maybe a Yuu's Imouto NOT FAN CLUB or Mr. Megane Teleporter NOT FAN CLUB will arise soon. Just wow.
Jul 11, 2015 1:49 PM

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So, in the end, it's all as I thought. MC's past is being scrapped, he stopped being asshole and he is pretty likeable right now.

I really hope noone thinks this was great developement. They just made his previous 16 years irrelevant.

And I don't think his jerk history was justified. Now I see it only as one-ep bait.
Jul 11, 2015 1:55 PM

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Mich666 said:
So, in the end, it's all as I thought. MC's past is being scrapped, he stopped being asshole and he is pretty likeable right now.

I really hope noone thinks this was great developement. They just made his previous 16 years irrelevant.

And I don't think his jerk history was justified. Now I see it only as one-ep bait.

What exactly should he have done? He's basically been blackmailed by the student council, and if he doesn't help them, they might not even give him and his sister enough food to eat. If he manages to run away, he might get caught by the eeeevil scientists.
He's ready to cheat again in class, but then he sees that the other two are classmates. He doesn't even contribute to the investigation until Nao basically has to drag him over to their target.
He's barely shocked by Nao's backstory and her brother, and his main worry is "I might end up like him and I'll have to abandon my sister".
I posted two hilariously douchey quotes from him in the other thread, too.
Again, what's your point? None of his traits have disappeared, he didn't suddenly become mr. nice guy, and his development will come later.
Jul 11, 2015 2:04 PM

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Douchy quotes doesn't make character who is willing to sacrifice lives of others (albeit indirectly) for his own goals. I have seen nothing of his previous mischieveness in this episode. But insted, I saw him apologize.

See it as you will but his sixteen years was just overruled by two recent days. And he didn't look like he was acting.
Jul 11, 2015 2:55 PM
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He is interesting and not "evil" at all

People just want your typical bland Harem self insert protag
(see the OP)
Jul 13, 2015 11:16 PM

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holy shit people i agree hes an ass right now but ITS ONLY EPISODE 1 theres a thing called character development
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

Jul 14, 2015 12:29 PM

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@Yuu_vi_Britannia:
You do realize that this anti-Nao propaganda is just making people like her?
And you do know that supporting Yuu is basically flaming him more?
Jul 14, 2015 1:00 PM

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He was a great character for 12 minutes.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jul 14, 2015 1:08 PM

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black1blade said:
He was a great character for 12 minutes.

Implying that he changed.
Jul 14, 2015 8:10 PM

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You're getting this anime and reality mixed up too much. Any normal nice guy would've been boring.
Jul 14, 2015 10:10 PM

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That amount of hatred just by a single episode, wow.


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Jul 15, 2015 12:25 AM

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this Yuu from Charlotte looks like the guy from M3 which i also hated last year
The current game that i play: Azur Lane :3

Jul 15, 2015 5:37 AM

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Lollo36 said:
black1blade said:
He was a great character for 12 minutes.

Implying that he changed.

Yeah, now he's becoming generic and nice.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jul 15, 2015 5:42 AM

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black1blade said:
Lollo36 said:

Implying that he changed.

Yeah, now he's becoming generic and nice.

No, he's not:
Lollo36 said:
What exactly should he have done? He's basically been blackmailed by the student council, and if he doesn't help them, they might not even give him and his sister enough money to eat properly. If he manages to run away, he might get caught by the eeeevil scientists.
He's ready to cheat again in class, but then he sees that the other two are classmates. He doesn't even contribute to the investigation until Nao basically has to drag him over to their target, and he keeps whining every time he has to do something.
He's barely shocked by Nao's backstory and her brother, and his main worry is "I might end up like him and I'll have to abandon my sister".
I posted two hilariously douchey quotes from him in the other thread, too.
None of his traits have disappeared, he didn't suddenly become mr. nice guy, and his development will come later.
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Jul 16, 2015 1:35 AM

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Yuu_vi_Britannia said:

You're forgetting the important, they already had a copy of your medical examination, and the authorization from his uncle to the school transfer.
Yu future was already decided even before the meeting with the student council, portanto a blackmail and approaches were unnecessary because they had the permission of his responponsalvel for transfer.

Obviously, Yuu's uncle had already been asked about the transfer. But Nao was not aware that the uncle told Ayumi. It's only normal she would approach him herself.
Also, where did Nao blackmail him? Before coming up with shit, watch the episode.

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Proven fact, because her sister was already aware of their transfers, and asked Yu about it.

But did Nao know that the uncle had told her sister? Did Nao know that he had a sister?

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So what the student council, made was unnecessary, not there was need of blackmailed, approach and persecution, it was enough just to visit your residence, or just have let him come home, her sister would give him the news.

Nao- maybe- did not know he had a sister. If she did, she did not know that the uncle would inform Ayumi. If Ayumi hadn't known about the transfer, then Yuu hadn't known. Nao did not know where Yuu lived. She could not visit him. Thus, the only thing possible was that Nao approach him at school

If he had not run from the room like a coward, Nao would calmly approach him and tell him the news.

Alright. We're here to discuss if Yuu is an ass or not- not whether Nao is an ass. Hate threads are unnecessary and shitty, also- Where are the moderators when you need them!?
OP, there is something called character development and we can still hope for that.
Nao is not a bitchy character.
Yuu is not a bitchy character.
No one can be called shit so far, because we're only two episodes in,
Also, it's KEY. Expect some shit to pop up somewhere.
Jul 16, 2015 3:12 AM

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Marshy-kun said:
OP, there is something called character development and we can still hope for that.
Nao is not a bitchy character.
Yuu is not a bitchy character.
No one can be called shit so far, because we're only two episodes in,
Also, it's KEY. Expect some shit to pop up somewhere.

I only raised my concerns about his past and about the way they try to portray him.

Judging from things he was doing during first half of episode one, he is wasn't exectly good guy but rather someone who thinks that the end justifies the means. He was effectively playing with other people's lives. He was thinking only about himself. He didn't care about casulties. My main problem is that it seems this series would eventually lead to his redemption and salvation in the end. But I don't think things he was doing could be possibly justified (if this is the real world that is).

And he was asshole for 15-16 years or something yet he turns into rather obedient guy pretty quickly in the second episode. He was even able to apologize as I wrote before. Call that inconsistent or something but I don't see a reason why he wouldn't try to resist at least. I don't see this as good character developement because here he developed without real reason. And it would be even worst and nonsensical if he acts priggish again on a whim in upcoming episodes just to create some situations to appease the viewers.

The way it is now it seems they deliberately wrote him this way to draw interest of people who likes those kinds of characters yet they're not consistent enough to push his attitude any further.
Jul 18, 2015 8:23 AM

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