All Time Manga Sales (in terms of copies printed)
Note: Printed copies is based on how many copies the publisher expected each individual volume to sell, rather than the actual number of copies sold. Some of these copies may have been returned to the publisher after a certain period of time. Source: English Wikipedia, [url=https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ベストセラー本の一覧]Japanese Wikipedia[/url], other |
AnaDec 12, 2015 10:17 AM
| Here a site with the values and that updates frequently the data: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html |
| Mangazenkan is for prints in Japan only, by the way. Throwing the Japanese wikipedia's version here if anyone wants to compare. 1. One Piece | 380 million 2. Golgo 13 | 280 million 3. Dragon Ball | 230 million 4. Naruto | 200 million 5. Black Jack | 176 million 6. Doraemon | 170 million 7. Kochikame | 156.5 million 8. Meitantei Conan | 150 million 9. Slam Dunk | 120.29 million 10. Oishinbo | 111.2 million 11. Astro Boy | 100 million 11. Touch | 100 million 11. Hokuto no Ken | 100 million 14. Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo | 90 million 15. Sazae-san | 86 million |
AnaJun 15, 2015 4:34 AM
| 320 or 380? lol |
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| Haha, I do think 380 is correct, though, but even the official site says it's 320 million as of December 2014. I guess we should stick with that. edit: I think Shueisha messed up at some point. |
AnaJun 15, 2015 5:46 AM
| I wonder what One Piece's sales will reach by the end of it's life (a.k.a. when the manga comes to a conclusion). I read an article where it was the top 9 best selling comic books and manga (combined) of all time. I'm not how sure how accurate how it is, but the top 4 looked like this: 1. Superman - Over 600 million 2. Batman - Over 460 million 3. Spider-Man - Over 360 million 4. One Piece - Over 345 million (as we know as of December 2014 it's at roughly 320 million, so I'm not sure where the author got this number) Assuming the other three listed are the correct sales numbers, it's safe to assume that One Piece can pass Spider-Man and Batman depending if it's popularity stays up. That would make it the second best selling comic/manga series of all time. Getting over 600 million like Superman may be hard though. |
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sman3579 said: I wonder what One Piece's sales will reach by the end of it's life (a.k.a. when the manga comes to a conclusion). I read an article where it was the top 9 best selling comic books and manga (combined) of all time. I'm not how sure how accurate how it is, but the top 4 looked like this: 1. Superman - Over 600 million 2. Batman - Over 460 million 3. Spider-Man - Over 360 million 4. One Piece - Over 345 million (as we know as of December 2014 it's at roughly 320 million, so I'm not sure where the author got this number) Assuming the other three listed are the correct sales numbers, it's safe to assume that One Piece can pass Spider-Man and Batman depending if it's popularity stays up. That would make it the second best selling comic/manga series of all time. Getting over 600 million like Superman may be hard though. I don't think that article is correct. It's hard to believe that Superman and Batman the two most iconic comics in the world didn't reach 1 billion. If you check the Japanese wiki link in Ana's post, it has X men listed above one piece with 5 billion. |
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| Updated. Changes: • Golgo 13 – 200 million → 280 million | now #2, 200 million value only represented Japan, source • Meitantei Conan – 140 million → 150 million | now #8, source • Doraemon – 100 million → 170 million | now #6, 100 million value only represented Japan, source Conflicts of Japanese and English Wikipedia (the latter listed is the one used): • Naruto – Japanese has it at 200, English at 220 | Japanese source was 2014, English last 2015 • Doraemon – English has it at 100, Japanese at 170 | re: Changes • Oishinbo – Japanese has it at 111, English at 130 | Japanese update was last 2005, English last 2008 Having only the top 13 is bothering my OCD, lol. I guess we have it because it is the top of the English Wikipedia? I'll crosscheck the two sites and list everything when I have the time. |
AnaDec 12, 2015 10:29 AM
| Golgo made quite the Jump. It's bugging me but Naruto Japanese sales are still 135. Which is the same figure since July 2014. From mangazenkan the only manga I noticed being updated is one piece and it was just once (300 >> 320) Ana said: Having only the top 13 is bothering my OCD, lol. I guess we have it because it is the top of the English Wikipedia? I'll crosscheck the two sites and list everything when I have the time. Haha. Yeah it's because of that. You should change it if you want. |
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| CROOZ, which produced a Naruto mobile game, reported it at 140 million. http://crooz.co.jp/20534 |
AnaDec 12, 2015 10:47 AM
Ana said: CROOZ, which produced a Naruto mobile game, reported it at 140 million. http://crooz.co.jp/20534 Oh didn't know that, Thanks! |
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bigivelfhq said: Here a site with the values and that updates frequently the data: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html Is that worldwide or just the sales within Japan? tsudecimo said: If you check the Japanese wiki link in Ana's post, it has X men listed above one piece with 5 billion. 5 billion or 500 million?! I know X-Men was extremely popular at a point but 5 billion seems unbelievable. |
sman3579Aug 18, 2016 4:46 PM
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sman3579 said: bigivelfhq said: Here a site with the values and that updates frequently the data: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html Is that worldwide or just the sales within Japan? tsudecimo said: If you check the Japanese wiki link in Ana's post, it has X men listed above one piece with 5 billion. 5 billion or 500 million?! I know X-Men was extremely popular at a point but 5 billion seems unbelievable. Just Japan. There is no good source for a good number of series worldwide so it makes little sense to make a list like that. Wikipedia does that and you end up with a small number of international numbers mixed with majority of just Japan. |
bigivelfhq said: Here a site with the values and that updates frequently the data: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html I noticed some of the values on this list were almost, if not identical, to the wiki list. Like Slam Dunk, Kochikame and Astro Boy are complete matches. Yet some of the numbers, like for Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Fist of the North Star are off by a substantial margin from the wiki list. Care to explain why? |
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sman3579 said: bigivelfhq said: Here a site with the values and that updates frequently the data: http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html I noticed some of the values on this list were almost, if not identical, to the wiki list. Like Slam Dunk, Kochikame and Astro Boy are complete matches. Yet some of the numbers, like for Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Fist of the North Star are off by a substantial margin from the wiki list. Care to explain why? The wiki shows both "only Japan" and "All the world" info. Basically they gather any information they can get and place in it. Mangazenkan also doesn't update every time there is little information about the titles, so basically it has to be an information that comes from very specific places. The wiki tries to pick up everything. |
bigivelfhq said: sman3579 said: I noticed some of the values on this list were almost, if not identical, to the wiki list. Like Slam Dunk, Kochikame and Astro Boy are complete matches. Yet some of the numbers, like for Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Fist of the North Star are off by a substantial margin from the wiki list. Care to explain why? The wiki shows both "only Japan" and "All the world" info. Basically they gather any information they can get and place in it. Mangazenkan also doesn't update every time there is little information about the titles, so basically it has to be an information that comes from very specific places. The wiki tries to pick up everything. Oh I see, that makes sense. So in a way, it's almost like the wiki page is the maximum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses worldwide. While the other list is the minimum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses on the core market of Japan. |
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sman3579 said: So in a way, it's almost like the wiki page is the maximum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses worldwide. While the other list is the minimum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses on the core market of Japan. It doesn't' update at all for some series. Naruto is still at 135 since july 2014. The wiki is based on official statements from publication companies for worldwide. |
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tsudecimo said: sman3579 said: So in a way, it's almost like the wiki page is the maximum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses worldwide. While the other list is the minimum (possible) copies a manga series has in circulation because it focuses on the core market of Japan. It doesn't' update at all for some series. Naruto is still at 135 since july 2014. The wiki is based on official statements from publication companies for worldwide. So which would you say is more reliable? Based off of this it sounds like the wiki page is more credible because the Japanese one doesn't update some series. |
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sman3579 said: tsudecimo said: It doesn't' update at all for some series. Naruto is still at 135 since july 2014. The wiki is based on official statements from publication companies for worldwide. So which would you say is more reliable? Based off of this it sounds like the wiki page is more credible because the Japanese one doesn't update some series. the Japanese site I suppose on the virtue of being Japanese. The only error i know of is the Black Jack worldwide numbers which Animenewsnetwork implies that the majority of it sales came from outside of Japan which is practically impossible. There is also the confusion of one piece world wide sales ever since the Guniess record thing. |
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sman3579 said: tsudecimo said: It doesn't' update at all for some series. Naruto is still at 135 since july 2014. The wiki is based on official statements from publication companies for worldwide. So which would you say is more reliable? Based off of this it sounds like the wiki page is more credible because the Japanese one doesn't update some series. Credible is not quite the correct word you're looking for. They both are as credible because they take info from trustworthy places. Updated is probably the best word. That is the wiki. Still, about credibility, Wikipedia loves to jump the shark at any kind of info and you end up with stuff like the 350 Million Dragon Ball info and the 176 Million Black Jack Numbers(that funnily enough was due the other site mistake). |
| I am not sure how familiar everyone is with how Wikipedia works, but it is also a site that depends highly on user contributions. 'Credibility' of either will depend on how keen the administrators' (or general users') eyes are at the reliability of the sources. There is no simple answer of what is credible; you have to check each citation the Wikipedia offers and gauge it for yourself. I can edit the Wikipedia page with a dubious link and there is a probability it will stay up. I had to cross-check everything in my post. The thing with the best selling manga/comic Wikipedia pages is that it is a mix of worldwide and Japan only sources. Most of the mix-ups I have encountered are the vagueness of the publishers themselves – because, hey, marketing! Recently, however, publishers have been quite mum about the number of circulation they have, unless they couple it with a huge news; hence, one of the reasons for the lack of updates in Wikipedia. Shueisha is one. They have been refraining from giving out the top series' circulation in their free yearly media update since 2014 (or 2015?), which they previously used to do. |
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