| I mean, they attack one at a time and somehow inaho is everywhere on the entire planet at once, so why dont they attack with more than one mech at a time? How is one person single handedly stopping an entire army like this? |
| From my understanding, they have a finite number of OP mecha. Not every martian has one of those things. |
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| America would like to say hi to you. |
| As the poster above said, they have. At the start of season 2, it's mentioned that the america's, africa and australia are all under the control of vers, the only places still under earth control is parts of europe and asia. |
Tatsuya said: As the poster above said, they have. At the start of season 2, it's mentioned that the america's, africa and australia are all under the control of vers, the only places still under earth control is parts of europe and asia. correct, posted in the topic of discussion of episode 4, the map with the location of each castle on earth, america continent is completely on the field of Mars |
PancakesAndStuff said: Because that would be logical. |
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Attacking one place at a time you say? This map of the theaters of operations contradicts that argument  |
kikohunter said: Because it would make Inaho look bad and he wouldn't be able to be a Gary Stu. Oh wait, he would probably wreck both at the same time, silly me. :^) You win the internet! Seriously you made my night hahaha |
OfficialMikoSM said: kikohunter said: Because it would make Inaho look bad and he wouldn't be able to be a Gary Stu. Oh wait, he would probably wreck both at the same time, silly me. :^) You win the internet! Seriously you made my night hahaha Ignoring the two pictures supplied by the series that contradict the trolling of your kind I see. |
| If there's absolute common sense then there wouldn't even be a series :P there is no way the Martians will lose the war regardless on how good Inaho is if the enemies apply logic :D |
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ShanaFlame said: If there's absolute common sense then there wouldn't even be a series :P there is no way the Martians will lose the war regardless on how good Inaho is if the enemies apply logic :D The key is the Aldnoah. Disable that and Vers are fucked |
Darklight0303 said: ShanaFlame said: If there's absolute common sense then there wouldn't even be a series :P there is no way the Martians will lose the war regardless on how good Inaho is if the enemies apply logic :D The key is the Aldnoah. Disable that and Vers are fucked Why dont you understand that they dont have to take every part of the Earth to win the war? There are a finite amount of resources in the parts of Earth that are left. Real war isnt like Risk. Why dont they just destroy the places they currently have control of, to lure the UFE out of hiding, instead of attacking them 1 by 1 and getting beaten by the one person on the entire planet who paid attention in high school physics? Episode 16 didn't even make sense. The Count basically landed in the middle of nowhere and attacked a small town. |
ChairForceOneFeb 2, 2015 6:54 AM
ChairForceOne said: Darklight0303 said: The key is the Aldnoah. Disable that and Vers are fucked Why dont you understand that they dont have to take every part of the Earth to win the war? There are a finite amount of resources in the parts of Earth that are left. Real war isnt like Risk. Why dont they just destroy the places they currently have control of, to lure the UFE out of hiding, instead of attacking them 1 by 1 and getting beaten by the one person on the entire planet who paid attention in high school physics? Episode 16 didn't even make sense. The Count basically landed in the middle of nowhere and attacked a small town. They don't have to but the vers WANT to. They don't want to share the resources with Earth. They want it all. That's what you are forgetting |
Darklight0303 said: ChairForceOne said: Why dont you understand that they dont have to take every part of the Earth to win the war? There are a finite amount of resources in the parts of Earth that are left. Real war isnt like Risk. Why dont they just destroy the places they currently have control of, to lure the UFE out of hiding, instead of attacking them 1 by 1 and getting beaten by the one person on the entire planet who paid attention in high school physics? Episode 16 didn't even make sense. The Count basically landed in the middle of nowhere and attacked a small town. They don't have to but the vers WANT to. They don't want to share the resources with Earth. They want it all. That's what you are forgetting They dont have to. Eventually the UFE will be forced to surrender. They dont have to physically attack every single inch of the earths surface. You clearly know nothing about history, war, or common logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege |
ChairForceOneFeb 2, 2015 8:01 AM
| 85 percent of the land, already destroyed, and was in the desert state, the Martian Radiation weapons, already polluted the oceans, there remains a lot of resources. About the Martians strands, they were not created by Martians, they forama findings superficei from Mars, then each has a special power for core, each castle has a lock these. Equals formula-1, no use having a ferrari or mercedes, if pilots do not possess sufficient skills to fly, the Martians have large locks, it is a great technology, however those ques are using technology and locks, people seem without qualifications, and is carried away by the power and became arogantes, and dependent on this technology, when you have super weapons, people forget to train and better, and are simply being dependent on them |
ChairForceOne said: Darklight0303 said: They don't have to but the vers WANT to. They don't want to share the resources with Earth. They want it all. That's what you are forgetting They dont have to. Eventually the UFE will be forced to surrender. They dont have to physically attack every single inch of the earths surface. You clearly know nothing about history, war, or common logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege You are aware that sieges are only effective in a small area not ENTIRE FREAKING CHUNKS OF CONTINENTS, right? Look at the map again. None of those locations can be starved out. Heck the Vers conquered some of the less profitable locations like south america. |
Tatsuya said: As the poster above said, they have. At the start of season 2, it's mentioned that the america's, africa and australia are all under the control of vers, the only places still under earth control is parts of europe and asia. What about Jaburohhhh wait wrong show. Okay the way I understand it is they have been attacking more than one place at the same time, we just haven't seen it since about episode 2 of season 1. I think it's safe to assume based on the rules of how Aldnoah.Zero fights work that those places are conquered. Anywhere that Inaho and the Deucalion have been are disputed and liberated territories since he is the only one allowed to take down any Aldnoah makes or have any sort of success for the Earth army. |
PeacingOutFeb 2, 2015 11:57 AM
| IF 85 percent of the Earth has been conquered, why the fuck hasnt Earth Surrendered? Where are they getting their food from? Where are they getting metals for bullets? Japan? |
ChairForceOne said: IF 85 percent of the Earth has been conquered, why the fuck hasnt Earth Surrendered? Where are they getting their food from? Where are they getting metals for bullets? Japan? Look at the world map. There's still plenty of fertile land for food left in the still terran controlled regions |
Darklight0303 said: ChairForceOne said: IF 85 percent of the Earth has been conquered, why the fuck hasnt Earth Surrendered? Where are they getting their food from? Where are they getting metals for bullets? Japan? Look at the world map. There's still plenty of fertile land for food left in the still terran controlled regions Not only that, but the rather unpleasant fact that vers has already killed probably over a billion people on earth, whether through landing castle drops or outright genocide, definitely reduces the resources needed to sustain survivability of a population. Metals are simple, syberia has alot of rare earths and metals to make equipment, there's also the fact that they control at least some of the moon and/or asteroid field, which is supposedly extremely rich in some minerals. As for why they haven't surrendered, what makes you think that's an option? It seems like at best the citizens of earth would be enslaved and at worst an outright eradication is taking place. |
| Seems people here have no concept of warfare whatsoever. This anime was made for you. |
ChairForceOne said: Seems people here have no concept of warfare whatsoever. This anime was made for you. ANd you lack any concept of debate if all you can bring to the table is attacking the other party. |
Darklight0303 said: ChairForceOne said: Seems people here have no concept of warfare whatsoever. This anime was made for you. ANd you lack any concept of debate if all you can bring to the table is attacking the other party. I've already explained to you how it works, but you seem to not understand farming, animal husbandry, or metalworks if you think the remains of Earth could continue to fight a winning battle against the Martians with what they have remaining. Instead of choking out the remaining Terran's and preserving their own strength, it seems Vers is more interested in attacking Inaho one at a time to make him look like a bad ass. |
| Wait are people trying to find some military aspect in this show? If you are, then please give up. There's not even a single lore put into the factions nor every features of the anime, essentially they rushed. If it was a militaristic show, then normal soldier would actually make an impact rather than two characters. It's like comparing Ryomaden to A/Z and even worst, comparing Game of Thrones to A/Z because there really is no military aspect, reality, to A/Z. I'm not trying to flame the person who was reasoning for military but ... just give up, most anime nowadays focus on fanservice and single badass character, that's simply it, except for rare shows like Nagi no Asakura or Clannad. If I was, Vers, I would simply put an entire army onto Inaho, if not two, in case he somehow kills all of them. And then focus on several regions of the earth, for example, 10 castle onto Europe, 10 on America with this, they'll expand onto north and south. Then Africa, probably not too much to deal with, no offence, so around 4, then hit Asia starting with Korea as the base and expand westward and eastward. A few to Australia and finally Singapore. Put some castle on reserve in case, some are taken out. There's more to it, but like someone else said in here, most of the fanbase in here wouldn't understand a thing. |
OfficialMikoSMFeb 8, 2015 9:18 PM
| We should all know that in reality, the Vers army would be capable of winning the war with relative ease if they used basic strategy or tactics. But this show isn't really about the war, it is more about the Slaine/Inaho trajectory. I think that focus warps a lot of the way the show is perceived, and not necessarily for the better, but the show will be what the show will be. |
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| Inaho can only be at one place at a time, not sure why they dont just avoid him and conquer everything else. Then again, now he can literally blow up Aldnoah mechas from space with 2 shots from a rifle, so I guess that's out. |
ChairForceOne said: Inaho can only be at one place at a time, not sure why they dont just avoid him and conquer everything else. Then again, now he can literally blow up Aldnoah mechas from space with 2 shots from a rifle, so I guess that's out. Pretty sure you need to pay attention. I swear It baffles me how much people tend to miss. Or do you just ignore things? There is a freakin map showing how much has been conquered by the vers, and you still come up with comments like these. Oh and i'm pretty sure it was the deucalion that fired those 2 shots, not Inaho's rifle, but hey lets ignore that also since it contradicts your statement. |
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KamiAlice said: ChairForceOne said: Inaho can only be at one place at a time, not sure why they dont just avoid him and conquer everything else. Then again, now he can literally blow up Aldnoah mechas from space with 2 shots from a rifle, so I guess that's out. Pretty sure you need to pay attention. I swear It baffles me how much people tend to miss. Or do you just ignore things? There is a freakin map showing how much has been conquered by the vers, and you still come up with comments like these. Oh and i'm pretty sure it was the deucalion that fired those 2 shots, not Inaho's rifle, but hey lets ignore that also since it contradicts your statement. You'd think that marbaredge saying "FIRE!" would give it away that the ship was the one that shot. |
OfficialMikoSM said: ANGRY2011 said: We should all know that in reality, the Vers army would be capable of winning the war with relative ease if they used basic strategy or tactics. But this show isn't really about the war, it is more about the Slaine/Inaho trajectory. I think that focus warps a lot of the way the show is perceived, and not necessarily for the better, but the show will be what the show will be. And nah, Verys army will get annihilated by Inaho as usual, he'll probably use the sun to destroy the Vers amiright? no need, vers will self-destruct thanks to our new useless lemuria princess and great slaine's master plot inaho is just a tool for slaine to destroy vers |
ninjastarforcex said: OfficialMikoSM said: And nah, Verys army will get annihilated by Inaho as usual, he'll probably use the sun to destroy the Vers amiright? no need, vers will self-destruct thanks to our new useless lemuria princess and great slaine's master plot inaho is just a tool for slaine to destroy vers Implying Slaine is capable of wielding or even making a tool on his own. Inaho is no tool and Slaine is no user. |
ChairForceOne said: I mean, they attack one at a time and somehow inaho is everywhere on the entire planet at once, so why dont they attack with more than one mech at a time? How is one person single handedly stopping an entire army like this? I think because each Martian Count, works for his way, between they there are not united. But checking the map, it seems that Glasses Count has conquered EUA, so Inaho is not everywhere. |
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ANGRY2011 said: We should all know that in reality, the Vers army would be capable of winning the war with relative ease if they used basic strategy or tactics. But this show isn't really about the war, it is more about the Slaine/Inaho trajectory. I think that focus warps a lot of the way the show is perceived, and not necessarily for the better, but the show will be what the show will be. Yep. The scale of the setting is just too large to be shown in detail given the time constraints the show has to work with. As such, the rest of the war is practically ignored in favor of focusing on the few main story lines, which is perfectly understandable. |
KamiAlice said: ChairForceOne said: Inaho can only be at one place at a time, not sure why they dont just avoid him and conquer everything else. Then again, now he can literally blow up Aldnoah mechas from space with 2 shots from a rifle, so I guess that's out. Pretty sure you need to pay attention. I swear It baffles me how much people tend to miss. Or do you just ignore things? There is a freakin map showing how much has been conquered by the vers, and you still come up with comments like these. Oh and i'm pretty sure it was the deucalion that fired those 2 shots, not Inaho's rifle, but hey lets ignore that also since it contradicts your statement. Ok, So Inaho's Harem can bow up martian Kats from space. |
ChairForceOne said: KamiAlice said: Pretty sure you need to pay attention. I swear It baffles me how much people tend to miss. Or do you just ignore things? There is a freakin map showing how much has been conquered by the vers, and you still come up with comments like these. Oh and i'm pretty sure it was the deucalion that fired those 2 shots, not Inaho's rifle, but hey lets ignore that also since it contradicts your statement. Ok, So Inaho's Harem can bow up martian Kats from space. Marbaredge is the captain of the ship and giving the orders. She's not part of the Harem. Your hatred for Inaho is showing and its pitiful. |
Darklight0303 said: ChairForceOne said: Ok, So Inaho's Harem can bow up martian Kats from space. Marbaredge is the captain of the ship and giving the orders. She's not part of the Harem. Your hatred for Inaho is showing and its pitiful. Not really. I dont care about the characters in the show. I'm more interested in the wasted potential of an otherwise decent premise. |
| Apparently having an opinion is trolling now. |
ChairForceOne said: Apparently having an opinion is trolling now. You have an opinion? All I see is a copy and paste attention seeking post. |
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KamiAlice said: ChairForceOne said: Apparently having an opinion is trolling now. You have an opinion? All I see is a copy and paste attention seeking post. How? I've basically been directly insulted multiple times here. I don't see the issue in questioning the story. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: ChairForceOne said: How? I've basically been directly insulted multiple times here. I don't see the issue in questioning the story. Questions that makes us Question about whether you watched the show or nor or how you missed some simple things? ChairForceOne said: Ok, So Inaho's Harem can bow up martian Kats from space. That is my opinion. Inaho's crew of girls aboard their ship can apparently cover the remainder of earth from space now. Feel free to disagree but don't be so petty as to accuse me of faking my opinion to make you upset. You aren't that important to me. You are using semantics to argue with my valid opinion. Whether Inaho took the shot, or the Deucalion, it still presents a laughably overpowered front considering the Main Characters power relative to that of the Martians. I am literally baffled by how the Earth forces got into space, much less how they can freely fly the Deucalion around shooting at ground forces without being challenged by the Martian forces. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: ChairForceOne said: That is my opinion. Inaho's crew of girls aboard their ship can apparently cover the remainder of earth from space now. Feel free to disagree but don't be so petty as to accuse me of faking my opinion to make you upset. You aren't that important to me. No this IS your opinion: ChairForceOne said: I dont care about the characters in the show. I'm more interested in the wasted potential of an otherwise decent premise Don't ask silly questions or dumb declarations without paying attention. That comes out as trolling or attention-seeking. Yes, it is my opinion that this thread is not about whether you guys prefer Inaho or Slaine. I don't see an issue with that. |
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